Whats your favorite Firmware???
I am asking because there are so many Jelly Bean Firmwares out there and I wanted to know which one is the best for you.
And I think it´s good for users who don´t know which Firmware they should flash.
MG2 is the smoothest one with 624 MB ram, but drains battery fast...
Szaby59 said:
MG2 is the smoothest one with 624 MB ram, but drains battery fast...
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I updated to MF1 via kies and got 482 MB. which firmware should i install to get 624mb ram. Device is from UK
Do i need 3 files or one file?
Flash mb4 for 624 RAM with pit then flash mf1 mg2 etc.
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The russian MG2 (SER) will give you 624 MB, you can flash it directly no matter what rom do you have currently on the device.
You can find a torrent link on my signature or hotfile link on sammobile.
It doesn't matter if it's 624 or 428 ram. Your device has 768 mb ram, it's just allocated differently and thus you have 624 or 428 ram. I'm running nordic MG2 with 428 mb ram, and it is smooth, there are no hangs, it's almost like GB. So don't base JB firmware on how much ram your task manager shows!.
Guys, i having BUT-XXMC8 Firmware and it's not bad
is MG2 better than MC8 ??
if yes sure i'll flash it over MC8.. i think no matter with this way right?
zahirovic.safet said:
It doesn't matter if it's 624 or 428 ram. Your device has 768 mb ram, it's just allocated differently and thus you have 624 or 428 ram. I'm running nordic MG2 with 428 mb ram, and it is smooth, there are no hangs, it's almost like GB. So don't base JB firmware on how much ram your task manager shows!.
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it has 768 mb ram, correct. but only 482 is usable, cant you understand? you might not have many apps running and using ram, but other people may use more apps than you. based on what you said, you mean a pc with 8 gb ram, and it so happens you can only use 1 gb(no, but example) you mean you will say"oh this pc has 8 gb of ram, its just allocated differently. dont judge the pc based on ram." I will have to tell you thats totally wrong. For gaming, customization, multitasking... ram does matter. So instead, just tell them how to get 624 mb ram and dont encourage them on the wrong things. And for those who needs 624 mb ram, first flash XXMB4 then your desired firmware(JB)
Szaby59 said:
The russian MG2 (SER) will give you 624 MB, you can flash it directly no matter what rom do you have currently on the device.
You can find a torrent link on my signature or hotfile link on sammobile.
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I downloaded MG2 from your torrent link and installed it. I got 624MB ram . It's faster than MF1.
On samfirimware there are 2 MG2 firmwares.Poland and Hungary.Which one is better?
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it has 768 mb ram, correct. but only 482 is usable, cant you understand? you might not have many apps running and using ram, but other people may use more apps than you. based on what you said, you mean a pc with 8 gb ram, and it so happens you can only use 1 gb(no, but example) you mean you will say"oh this pc has 8 gb of ram, its just allocated differently. dont judge the pc based on ram." I will have to tell you thats totally wrong. For gaming, customization, multitasking... ram does matter. So instead, just tell them how to get 624 mb ram and dont encourage them on the wrong things. And for those who needs 624 mb ram, first flash XXMB4 then your desired firmware(JB)
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You can't compare PC with smartphone with Android. First if you go to properties in my computer in windows you can see that you have RAM and how much ram is usable. Second RAM management is different in Android and Windows. Google said that 1 GB RAM is minimum for JB and we have 768. You CAN'T GET MUCH OF MULTITASKING WITH THAT MUCH RAM!!!. I had 624 mb ram with repartition, and the RAM gauge was always filled, I constantly had 500 ish ram, and the same thing is with 428 ram, I always have 400 ish ram. Gaming performance was worse on any firmware with 624 ram, mc8, me7, mf1 but with 428 ram on MG2 it's much better. My point is that mg2 build is optimized good enough with 428 ram, and if you repartition yout system you will have same effect, maybe even worse with 624 mb. I guarantee that with 624 ram you won't get much of multitasking and you will repartition your system, which is always a bad choice, so it's futile to search for multitasking in jb on our device.
1gb is minimum? But then again, you can only use 0.98gb. "Google said you need 1gb of ram" huh? So having 0.98gb cant multitask either? Lastly, this is a thread meant for discussion, not arguing.
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1gb is minimum? But then again, you can only use 0.98gb. "Google said you need 1gb of ram" huh? So having 0.98gb cant multitask either? Lastly, this is a thread meant for discussion, not arguing.
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Minimum 1GB of physical memory, not usable memory. My point is not to argue, but I don't want people to flash 100 builds just to get "624 mb RAM" when it's perfectly fine with 428 mb, and there is not difference in performance, if anything else 624 mb is worse. This phone is tailored suited for GB, I think we will never get official Samsung update with better performance than GB, in best case we will get same performance as GB. And that's the case with all devices without physical 1 GB of RAM. I am using official MG2 now, updated with kies and it runs really smooth, games are OK and I don't have any freezes or lag so it is definitely an improvement. There will me more builds, and about 2 months ago when I talked with Samsung Norway they told me that JB will arrive in 3/4 quarter of the year, and I think that final builds will come then, but MG2 build for now is just fine for me.
Sorry for misunderstanding. And i agree it was made for GB
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If a phone with single core cpu and 512 MB ram can run JB don't try to explain that 768 MB RAM and a dualcore processor is not good enough...
Just flash the russian MG2 you will have 624 MB usable ram and almost every time there is approx. 100 MB free, the rom is extremely smooth, there is only a little lag which is caused by poor drivers/kernel, just like the huge battery drain.
Soo... that "made for GB" excuse is probably good enough for samsung trying to fool us, but it's not true...
I can remember when I bought my phone GB was almost in the same state (little lags, battery drain, slowdown) and after the 2012Q4 performance updates GB became well optimized.
kohrangi said:
On samfirimware there are 2 MG2 firmwares.Poland and Hungary.Which one is better?
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it's the same ROM
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it's the same ROM
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No, with the Hungarian XXMG2 version you'll have 482 MB usable ram, with the Russian XXMG2 this value is 624 MB.
I don't know anything about the polish fw but I recommend to flash the Russian JB.
Szaby59 said:
If a phone with single core cpu and 512 MB ram can run JB don't try to explain that 768 MB RAM and a dualcore processor is not good enough...
Just flash the russian MG2 you will have 624 MB usable ram and almost every time there is approx. 100 MB free, the rom is extremely smooth, there is only a little lag which is caused by poor drivers/kernel, just like the huge battery drain.
Soo... that "made for GB" excuse is probably good enough for samsung trying to fool us, but it's not true...
I can remember when I bought my phone GB was almost in the same state (little lags, battery drain, slowdown) and after the 2012Q4 performance updates GB became well optimized.
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I didn't say it can't run, it can run JB, I'm running JB now on my phone. The question is not can it run but how it runs it. I agree that performance will be better with next updates and that was my point, but what I've said is that don't expect to run 4-5 applications in once or to have fantastic multitasking. About a battery, there is slight decline over GB but not so much. I've noticed the biggest drain is with wi-fi on, with camera app and of course screen usage. Project butter uses a lot of battery for now I think, because to use video sync and to run at 60 fps Project Butter needs graphical intensity which was not presented in GB. And one more thing, did anybody noticed that camera quality is lower than on GB? For me it seems like it. I think in September/November we will get usable enough build and Samsung will end support for this model I think.
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what are the differences between the firmwares? and does the different version affect the battery life of the phone? thanks
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what are the differences between the firmwares? and does the different version affect the battery life of the phone? thanks
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It's up to you. If you value more battery life and performance, stay on GB. If you want Nature UX, smooth UI and new features with lower battery life and less performance in games, than go for JB. If you want to move to JB then I suggest to flash nordic MG2 directly from GB via Odin.
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i have started my own and read every topic about why we could not see all the ram as user available (329 instead of 512) .. first i compared galaxy s with tab but it turned out tab has 640 Mb of real memory in total.. but i also have seen it was possible to add more memory about 40 Mb to the user available ram .. and i also learned there is also a part which is not used and called "blackhole" approximitely another 40 Mb..
so i believe it is possible to make some adjustments to improve the weakest (according to me) part of our galaxy s.. would some devs please mind trying this for us and share it?
We don't need the RAM (yet)
There are a lot of developers who try to get more out of our SGS's. For instance Juwe/ GingerReal increases the RAM to around 340MB.
Appearently Google thinks we don't need the full potential RAM and that's why they made it with a default of 300-330MB. Still still most developers agree on XDA that we should be able to acces the other 160MB because it doesn't do anything.
Until then we'll just have to wait.
even 340 Mb instead of 329 makes a difference .. i cant think what would happen with 380 or 400 or maybe even more..
because as far as i understood from what i have read; 128 memory is reserved for some drivers and capturing video is taking most of it.. i am taking a video maybe once in 2 monts.. but i am using my widgets, apps, playing my games everyday.. so if was asked to choose i would love to have that memory reserved for video taking..
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First of all, the amount of RAM is NOT related to the ROM....
The kernel makes the difference...
In general the max amount of RAM in Gingerbread is 340MB, cuz if we go over the phone will become unstable and we'll break some functions like 720p recording....
In Froyo we used to reach max of 350MB without issues
just curiosity;
galaxy s2 and galaxy s has the same rams with different amounts.. what would happen if we soldered the 1gb ram to galaxy s? would it recognize it without any software tuning? or would we just kill the phone completely? or would still see 329 ?
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First of all, the amount of RAM is NOT related to the ROM....
The kernel makes the difference...
In general the max amount of RAM in Gingerbread is 340MB, cuz if we go over the phone will become unstable and we'll break some functions like 720p recording....
In Froyo we used to reach max of 350MB without issues
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so is it possible to disable video recording completely and having lots of more Mb?
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just curiosity;
galaxy s2 and galaxy s has the same rams with different amounts.. what would happen if we soldered the 1gb ram to galaxy s? would it recognize it without any software tuning? or would we just kill the phone completely? or would still see 329 ?
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Do you want to instert 1GB ram into our SGS? I dunno sincerely what will happen.....
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so is it possible to disable video recording completely and having lots of more Mb?
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Probably yes, i am not a kernel expert, i am only a rom cooker/recognised developer, so my knowledge on kernels is very basic....
Maybe you'd better directly ask to a kernel dev like hardcore, nikademus, chainfire....
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Do you want to instert 1GB ram into our SGS? I dunno sincerely what will happen.....
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i would really want that but i am sure its not as easy as soldering the gps antenna.. i have read about a HTC device getting a memory upgrade to 128Mb from 64 in xda forum.. so technically there is no impossible but i wonder what else need to be done after soldering the ram? software adjustments (kernel maybe?), or any more hardware changes ?
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Probably yes, i am not a kernel expert, i am only a rom cooker/recognised developer, so my knowledge on kernels is very basic....
Maybe you'd better directly ask to a kernel dev like hardcore, nikademus, chainfire....
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thanks for tip, i will ask them..
i am really feeling bad about this ram issue.. every web page is showing nexus, galaxy s, galaxy tab have 512 Mb of ram.. but the memory dedicated for users is far less than the other 2 phones in galaxy s ... so it bothers me.. is there anyone who returns their phones to samsung and gets the money back?
first i believed somehow it was possible to use most of the ram with some software adjustement but then i realised even quadrant shows the total amount of ram memory is only 384 mb (and there is a part which is not used at all) ..
When I play games on my phone, one of the biggest issues I notice is the stuttering. On a desktop, it is typically an indication of not having enough free RAM, so the swapfile has to be used instead. Looking at the task manager reveals around 220 MB of RAM used out of 330 MB total RAM. That seems like it isn't enough for some of the games I play on my phone. I can't think of any other reason for the phone to experience the same issues when gaming, but I am far from an expert on phone operating systems.
So, which custom ROM running 2.2.1 or newer uses the least amount of RAM? I am mostly looking for RAM use after a fresh install, just after booting up. If there are some tweaks to increase available RAM by a large margin, those would be nice to know too. I'm thinking I probably just need a new phone if I want to play games.
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When I play games on my phone, one of the biggest issues I notice is the stuttering. On a desktop, it is typically an indication of not having enough free RAM, so the swapfile has to be used instead. Looking at the task manager reveals around 220 MB of RAM used out of 330 MB total RAM. That seems like it isn't enough for some of the games I play on my phone. I can't think of any other reason for the phone to experience the same issues when gaming, but I am far from an expert on phone operating systems.
So, which custom ROM running 2.2.1 or newer uses the least amount of RAM? I am mostly looking for RAM use after a fresh install, just after booting up. If there are some tweaks to increase available RAM by a large margin, those would be nice to know too. I'm thinking I probably just need a new phone if I want to play games.
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I'd say Miui, go to that thread and download 1.3.5 and not 1.8.19, cuz that has screen flicker . Accelerometer doesn't work, but the ROM is so smooth.
If you want to use a Gingerbread leak, I think it would have to be CompKid's Urban Vendetta ROM. Its 98MB total size. He leaned it up as much as possible.
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JohnCorleone said:
If you want to use a Gingerbread leak, I think it would have to be CompKid's Urban Vendetta ROM. Its 98MB total size. He leaned it up as much as possible.
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I think era's fat free eh17 leak is 98mb too.
sent from my uncyanogen modded epic 4g. with the key skips.
Does the ROM size have anything to do with RAM use?
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Does the ROM size have anything to do with RAM use?
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Well, there's less bloat that can auto open or run in the background which seems to cause the reboots which seems to be the main culprit of the RAM leak.
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Hello @ all,
as you might know we have only 343MB of RAM available to the user on our Arcs, but we have a total of 512MB RAM.
I did some research and found out that the most phones with 512MB RAM have 370-400MB or even more RAM out of the 512MB available to the user.
I know that there is something reserved for the system, but normally it's less.
But sometimes I'd really like to have a few MB more RAM available when I do multitasking or a lot of stuff is running.
So the question is if we can unlock more RAM for us and an even better user experience? And if yes, how to do it.
Regards,
Flo
May be a mix from a swap partition and the supercharger script is the right for you
The supercharge script optimize the memory management of android
Already have SuperCharger V6 installed.
Does a really great job and fixed the problem with LauncherPro Plus redrawing often.
But still I'd like to have more RAM available...
For example the X10 with 384MB has ~280MB available, so we should have ~410MB available on the Arc. And not just 60MB more...
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Flo95 said:
Hello @ all,
as you might know we have only 343MB of RAM available to the user on our Arcs, but we have a total of 512MB RAM.
I did some research and found out that the most phones with 512MB RAM have 370-400MB or even more RAM out of the 512MB available to the user.
I know that there is something reserved for the system, but normally it's less.
But sometimes I'd really like to have a few MB more RAM available when I do multitasking or a lot of stuff is running.
So the question is if we can unlock more RAM for us and an even better user experience? And if yes, how to do it.
Regards,
Flo
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No you can not unlock the RAM or ROM for further use, you however can optimize it by using external scripts and the reason for 343 megs being available is because around 150-170(approx) megs of RAM is being used by the graphics (GPU).... u did not account for that now did u... . Now maybe just maybe u can use a custom made kernel to squeeze some more juice out of the RAM...but no major RAM increase
Ah, okay.
But somehow it's possible.
Today I saw a review of a custom ROM on youtube for an Evo 3D...
And other phones with the same GPU have less memory reserved.
E.g. Desire HD, Desire Z
Strange that SE reserves that much
Flo95 said:
Ah, okay.
But somehow it's possible.
Today I saw a review of a custom ROM on youtube for an Evo 3D...
And other phones with the same GPU have less memory reserved.
E.g. Desire HD, Desire Z
Strange that SE reserves that much
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Your phone reserves memory for hardware, camera for example. It works the same way as reserved memory for integrated graphics on computers. We have HD recording in the arc now that has to come from somewhere, and just where would that place be?........the RAM. SE has tried very hard to squeeze in some very good features into the arc and that's why I guess they made a trade off with the RAM, and all these features require RAM and its not a luxury that SE has to reserve all that RAM but a necessity so we users can enjoy some great HD recording and amazing resolution.
One more thing even though the Desire HD and Xperia Arc do share the same processor (MSM8255 SnapDragon) the HTC Desire HD has 768 MB RAM and 1.5 GB of internal flash memory data storage and the Desire Z on the other hand uses a MSM7230 SnapDragon even though the GPU is the same the processors differ the MSM8255 is 1GHz and the MSM7230 is 800MHZ and in the overall equation of memory reserving other than the GPU the CPU has its part to play too and a very imp one...hope ur getting the idea and the GPU in the MSM8255 is a marked improvement over the GPU the 'Z' has. Now even though HD does have lesser memory reserved its not that big a difference. However on the arc, the camera is way much better than on the HD (camera-->RAM) so SE has used some more memory for better features.
I think everybody want to have more ram and more ram
but only thing that we can do is tweaking our system again and again.
I´am for example using the supercharger v6 option 4 and a swap partition and its great to see some improfment
I am looking for tweaks all the days but i am not so good in android so it need time
Ok, then.
If it has to be like that...
Just want to get the optimum out of my Arc.
Maybe a dev will come with a kernel that unlocks just a little bit more with keeping all the features
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I flashed the Hashcode ROM for 4.1.1 Jelly Bean with SGT7 enhancements CM10, Everything's fine, except my RAMs always under 200, around 100 most of the time. Before I flashed to 4.1.1 I had the default GB and the average RAM usage was around 150-180. Any tips on how to boost my RAM?
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I flashed the Hashcode ROM for 4.1.1 Jelly Bean with SGT7 enhancements CM10, Everything's fine, except my RAMs always under 200, around 100 most of the time. Before I flashed to 4.1.1 I had the default GB and the average RAM usage was around 150-180. Any tips on how to boost my RAM?
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Don't worry about it. Having more free ram doesn't necessarily mean anything. Android is designed to use up a good amount of the ram on he device.
veeman said:
Don't worry about it. Having more free ram doesn't necessarily mean anything. Android is designed to use up a good amount of the ram on he device.
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It's just that I tend to use pretty heavy apps and I've had instances of freezing.
I apologize if this is stupid and everyone already knows this.
Why is the RAM listed under About Tablet less than the specs for the fire? Is there a way to change the situation so more ram is available?
Thank you.
No, the ROM, as well as the stock ROM, take about 100 MB of RAM to get System Apps and Processes working as well as hardware running. With 400 MB its enough to do multi tasking, so unless you have like 50 MB RAM, there is no problem. You can't add more RAM, that's how it is. On AOSP you can get 140 MB of RAM free which is enough to play 3D Games and no lag.
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404-Not Found said:
No, the ROM, as well as the stock ROM, take about 100 MB of RAM to get System Apps and Processes working as well as hardware running. With 400 MB its enough to do multi tasking, so unless you have like 50 MB RAM, there is no problem. You can't add more RAM, that's how it is. On AOSP you can get 140 MB of RAM free which is enough to play 3D Games and no lag.
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Is that 100 MB being used for running the OS or is it used as a ram disk? If that's what Android uses for running, then what is eating up the other ~250 MB of RAM?
The only way I've managed to get ~150 MB free RAM is to go through settings and manually stop all the extra processes that I don't want running in the first place. The benefits are short lived, though, as they always seem to respawn themselves.
Try different ROMs and wait for new version from Devs
pfederighi said:
I apologize if this is stupid and everyone already knows this.
Why is the RAM listed under About Tablet less than the specs for the fire? Is there a way to change the situation so more ram is available?
Thank you.
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From my understanding, each ROM utilized ROM diffrently, and the RAM always partial taken by ROM to run the OS. Newer kernel version (my case is 3.0.50+) like near future 3.4 may take fewer RAM then the current version, as Hashcode promised. And as you see with USB, SD and HDD, none of them show the correct storage as factory spec. It is always lower
The 1gig is shared between the gpu and cpu, what you see is whats reserved for the cpu.
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Is that 100 MB being used for running the OS or is it used as a ram disk? If that's what Android uses for running, then what is eating up the other ~250 MB of RAM?
The only way I've managed to get ~150 MB free RAM is to go through settings and manually stop all the extra processes that I don't want running in the first place. The benefits are short lived, though, as they always seem to respawn themselves.
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100 is for Hardware System and the rest ~100 or so is for Keeping the OS running, if you were to take that away you would get a unresponsive Kindle. I have that in Stock ROM I get about 200MB but you have sacrifice some for Heavier
ROMs like JB
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The 1gig is shared between the gpu and cpu, what you see is whats reserved for the cpu.
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1Gig?????
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