I apologize if this is stupid and everyone already knows this.
Why is the RAM listed under About Tablet less than the specs for the fire? Is there a way to change the situation so more ram is available?
Thank you.
No, the ROM, as well as the stock ROM, take about 100 MB of RAM to get System Apps and Processes working as well as hardware running. With 400 MB its enough to do multi tasking, so unless you have like 50 MB RAM, there is no problem. You can't add more RAM, that's how it is. On AOSP you can get 140 MB of RAM free which is enough to play 3D Games and no lag.
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404-Not Found said:
No, the ROM, as well as the stock ROM, take about 100 MB of RAM to get System Apps and Processes working as well as hardware running. With 400 MB its enough to do multi tasking, so unless you have like 50 MB RAM, there is no problem. You can't add more RAM, that's how it is. On AOSP you can get 140 MB of RAM free which is enough to play 3D Games and no lag.
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Is that 100 MB being used for running the OS or is it used as a ram disk? If that's what Android uses for running, then what is eating up the other ~250 MB of RAM?
The only way I've managed to get ~150 MB free RAM is to go through settings and manually stop all the extra processes that I don't want running in the first place. The benefits are short lived, though, as they always seem to respawn themselves.
Try different ROMs and wait for new version from Devs
pfederighi said:
I apologize if this is stupid and everyone already knows this.
Why is the RAM listed under About Tablet less than the specs for the fire? Is there a way to change the situation so more ram is available?
Thank you.
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From my understanding, each ROM utilized ROM diffrently, and the RAM always partial taken by ROM to run the OS. Newer kernel version (my case is 3.0.50+) like near future 3.4 may take fewer RAM then the current version, as Hashcode promised. And as you see with USB, SD and HDD, none of them show the correct storage as factory spec. It is always lower
The 1gig is shared between the gpu and cpu, what you see is whats reserved for the cpu.
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Is that 100 MB being used for running the OS or is it used as a ram disk? If that's what Android uses for running, then what is eating up the other ~250 MB of RAM?
The only way I've managed to get ~150 MB free RAM is to go through settings and manually stop all the extra processes that I don't want running in the first place. The benefits are short lived, though, as they always seem to respawn themselves.
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100 is for Hardware System and the rest ~100 or so is for Keeping the OS running, if you were to take that away you would get a unresponsive Kindle. I have that in Stock ROM I get about 200MB but you have sacrifice some for Heavier
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The 1gig is shared between the gpu and cpu, what you see is whats reserved for the cpu.
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1Gig?????
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When I play games on my phone, one of the biggest issues I notice is the stuttering. On a desktop, it is typically an indication of not having enough free RAM, so the swapfile has to be used instead. Looking at the task manager reveals around 220 MB of RAM used out of 330 MB total RAM. That seems like it isn't enough for some of the games I play on my phone. I can't think of any other reason for the phone to experience the same issues when gaming, but I am far from an expert on phone operating systems.
So, which custom ROM running 2.2.1 or newer uses the least amount of RAM? I am mostly looking for RAM use after a fresh install, just after booting up. If there are some tweaks to increase available RAM by a large margin, those would be nice to know too. I'm thinking I probably just need a new phone if I want to play games.
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When I play games on my phone, one of the biggest issues I notice is the stuttering. On a desktop, it is typically an indication of not having enough free RAM, so the swapfile has to be used instead. Looking at the task manager reveals around 220 MB of RAM used out of 330 MB total RAM. That seems like it isn't enough for some of the games I play on my phone. I can't think of any other reason for the phone to experience the same issues when gaming, but I am far from an expert on phone operating systems.
So, which custom ROM running 2.2.1 or newer uses the least amount of RAM? I am mostly looking for RAM use after a fresh install, just after booting up. If there are some tweaks to increase available RAM by a large margin, those would be nice to know too. I'm thinking I probably just need a new phone if I want to play games.
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I'd say Miui, go to that thread and download 1.3.5 and not 1.8.19, cuz that has screen flicker . Accelerometer doesn't work, but the ROM is so smooth.
If you want to use a Gingerbread leak, I think it would have to be CompKid's Urban Vendetta ROM. Its 98MB total size. He leaned it up as much as possible.
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If you want to use a Gingerbread leak, I think it would have to be CompKid's Urban Vendetta ROM. Its 98MB total size. He leaned it up as much as possible.
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I think era's fat free eh17 leak is 98mb too.
sent from my uncyanogen modded epic 4g. with the key skips.
Does the ROM size have anything to do with RAM use?
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Does the ROM size have anything to do with RAM use?
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Well, there's less bloat that can auto open or run in the background which seems to cause the reboots which seems to be the main culprit of the RAM leak.
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Hi guys
Quick question, i see that specs show the nexus has 1gb of ram.
But my ,"system apps," so it only has 632mb can any one explain?
Thanks
I think that some of the ram is reserved for the gpu. That's why you see less ram.
Just wanted to make sure
Still thou 400mb on gpu?
Tiggerbits said:
Just wanted to make sure
Still thou 400mb on gpu?
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I was in looking at the Rezound and did a hard boot and checked available memory. It only had 250Mb of the 1 G available. The rest must have been taken by Android, Sense and whatever bloat Verizon is loading.
Have a quick look at my screen shot - ( if they work)
I beleive that is should be 1GB of Ram, i understand if some is used for system processes. but 400mb.... far to high i would think.
Any one care to explain?
Some is reserved for the OS to function at all times. Some of it is reserved for the GPU, and radio to use. It is done this way to ensure you have the maximum needed for these to run.
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Some is reserved for the OS to function at all times. Some of it is reserved for the GPU, and radio to use. It is done this way to ensure you have the maximum needed for these to run.
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That makes sense.
Nothing is reserved for the O/S, that uses whatever is available. It's probably for the GPU, same as the Nexus S has 512MB, but only 384MB available due to the GPU being allocated 128MB.
Whats your favorite Firmware???
I am asking because there are so many Jelly Bean Firmwares out there and I wanted to know which one is the best for you.
And I think it´s good for users who don´t know which Firmware they should flash.
MG2 is the smoothest one with 624 MB ram, but drains battery fast...
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MG2 is the smoothest one with 624 MB ram, but drains battery fast...
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I updated to MF1 via kies and got 482 MB. which firmware should i install to get 624mb ram. Device is from UK
Do i need 3 files or one file?
Flash mb4 for 624 RAM with pit then flash mf1 mg2 etc.
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The russian MG2 (SER) will give you 624 MB, you can flash it directly no matter what rom do you have currently on the device.
You can find a torrent link on my signature or hotfile link on sammobile.
It doesn't matter if it's 624 or 428 ram. Your device has 768 mb ram, it's just allocated differently and thus you have 624 or 428 ram. I'm running nordic MG2 with 428 mb ram, and it is smooth, there are no hangs, it's almost like GB. So don't base JB firmware on how much ram your task manager shows!.
Guys, i having BUT-XXMC8 Firmware and it's not bad
is MG2 better than MC8 ??
if yes sure i'll flash it over MC8.. i think no matter with this way right?
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It doesn't matter if it's 624 or 428 ram. Your device has 768 mb ram, it's just allocated differently and thus you have 624 or 428 ram. I'm running nordic MG2 with 428 mb ram, and it is smooth, there are no hangs, it's almost like GB. So don't base JB firmware on how much ram your task manager shows!.
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it has 768 mb ram, correct. but only 482 is usable, cant you understand? you might not have many apps running and using ram, but other people may use more apps than you. based on what you said, you mean a pc with 8 gb ram, and it so happens you can only use 1 gb(no, but example) you mean you will say"oh this pc has 8 gb of ram, its just allocated differently. dont judge the pc based on ram." I will have to tell you thats totally wrong. For gaming, customization, multitasking... ram does matter. So instead, just tell them how to get 624 mb ram and dont encourage them on the wrong things. And for those who needs 624 mb ram, first flash XXMB4 then your desired firmware(JB)
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The russian MG2 (SER) will give you 624 MB, you can flash it directly no matter what rom do you have currently on the device.
You can find a torrent link on my signature or hotfile link on sammobile.
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I downloaded MG2 from your torrent link and installed it. I got 624MB ram . It's faster than MF1.
On samfirimware there are 2 MG2 firmwares.Poland and Hungary.Which one is better?
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it has 768 mb ram, correct. but only 482 is usable, cant you understand? you might not have many apps running and using ram, but other people may use more apps than you. based on what you said, you mean a pc with 8 gb ram, and it so happens you can only use 1 gb(no, but example) you mean you will say"oh this pc has 8 gb of ram, its just allocated differently. dont judge the pc based on ram." I will have to tell you thats totally wrong. For gaming, customization, multitasking... ram does matter. So instead, just tell them how to get 624 mb ram and dont encourage them on the wrong things. And for those who needs 624 mb ram, first flash XXMB4 then your desired firmware(JB)
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You can't compare PC with smartphone with Android. First if you go to properties in my computer in windows you can see that you have RAM and how much ram is usable. Second RAM management is different in Android and Windows. Google said that 1 GB RAM is minimum for JB and we have 768. You CAN'T GET MUCH OF MULTITASKING WITH THAT MUCH RAM!!!. I had 624 mb ram with repartition, and the RAM gauge was always filled, I constantly had 500 ish ram, and the same thing is with 428 ram, I always have 400 ish ram. Gaming performance was worse on any firmware with 624 ram, mc8, me7, mf1 but with 428 ram on MG2 it's much better. My point is that mg2 build is optimized good enough with 428 ram, and if you repartition yout system you will have same effect, maybe even worse with 624 mb. I guarantee that with 624 ram you won't get much of multitasking and you will repartition your system, which is always a bad choice, so it's futile to search for multitasking in jb on our device.
1gb is minimum? But then again, you can only use 0.98gb. "Google said you need 1gb of ram" huh? So having 0.98gb cant multitask either? Lastly, this is a thread meant for discussion, not arguing.
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1gb is minimum? But then again, you can only use 0.98gb. "Google said you need 1gb of ram" huh? So having 0.98gb cant multitask either? Lastly, this is a thread meant for discussion, not arguing.
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Minimum 1GB of physical memory, not usable memory. My point is not to argue, but I don't want people to flash 100 builds just to get "624 mb RAM" when it's perfectly fine with 428 mb, and there is not difference in performance, if anything else 624 mb is worse. This phone is tailored suited for GB, I think we will never get official Samsung update with better performance than GB, in best case we will get same performance as GB. And that's the case with all devices without physical 1 GB of RAM. I am using official MG2 now, updated with kies and it runs really smooth, games are OK and I don't have any freezes or lag so it is definitely an improvement. There will me more builds, and about 2 months ago when I talked with Samsung Norway they told me that JB will arrive in 3/4 quarter of the year, and I think that final builds will come then, but MG2 build for now is just fine for me.
Sorry for misunderstanding. And i agree it was made for GB
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If a phone with single core cpu and 512 MB ram can run JB don't try to explain that 768 MB RAM and a dualcore processor is not good enough...
Just flash the russian MG2 you will have 624 MB usable ram and almost every time there is approx. 100 MB free, the rom is extremely smooth, there is only a little lag which is caused by poor drivers/kernel, just like the huge battery drain.
Soo... that "made for GB" excuse is probably good enough for samsung trying to fool us, but it's not true...
I can remember when I bought my phone GB was almost in the same state (little lags, battery drain, slowdown) and after the 2012Q4 performance updates GB became well optimized.
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On samfirimware there are 2 MG2 firmwares.Poland and Hungary.Which one is better?
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it's the same ROM
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it's the same ROM
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No, with the Hungarian XXMG2 version you'll have 482 MB usable ram, with the Russian XXMG2 this value is 624 MB.
I don't know anything about the polish fw but I recommend to flash the Russian JB.
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If a phone with single core cpu and 512 MB ram can run JB don't try to explain that 768 MB RAM and a dualcore processor is not good enough...
Just flash the russian MG2 you will have 624 MB usable ram and almost every time there is approx. 100 MB free, the rom is extremely smooth, there is only a little lag which is caused by poor drivers/kernel, just like the huge battery drain.
Soo... that "made for GB" excuse is probably good enough for samsung trying to fool us, but it's not true...
I can remember when I bought my phone GB was almost in the same state (little lags, battery drain, slowdown) and after the 2012Q4 performance updates GB became well optimized.
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I didn't say it can't run, it can run JB, I'm running JB now on my phone. The question is not can it run but how it runs it. I agree that performance will be better with next updates and that was my point, but what I've said is that don't expect to run 4-5 applications in once or to have fantastic multitasking. About a battery, there is slight decline over GB but not so much. I've noticed the biggest drain is with wi-fi on, with camera app and of course screen usage. Project butter uses a lot of battery for now I think, because to use video sync and to run at 60 fps Project Butter needs graphical intensity which was not presented in GB. And one more thing, did anybody noticed that camera quality is lower than on GB? For me it seems like it. I think in September/November we will get usable enough build and Samsung will end support for this model I think.
question
what are the differences between the firmwares? and does the different version affect the battery life of the phone? thanks
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what are the differences between the firmwares? and does the different version affect the battery life of the phone? thanks
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It's up to you. If you value more battery life and performance, stay on GB. If you want Nature UX, smooth UI and new features with lower battery life and less performance in games, than go for JB. If you want to move to JB then I suggest to flash nordic MG2 directly from GB via Odin.
Does anyone else experience alot of ram being used, i have the 3gb version, and i hardly have any apps installed, and my ram takes a big hit, im constantly clearing it, with clean master...
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Does anyone else experience alot of ram being used, i have the 3gb version, and i hardly have any apps installed, and my ram takes a big hit, im constantly clearing it, with clean master...
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The QHD screen uses double the RAM an HD screen uses as video RAM. QHD uses on average 600mb whereas an HD screen uses roughly 250mb.
Unused ram is wasted ram.
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Unused ram is wasted ram.
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Not when you're getting launcher redraws and apps being closed in the background,then you haven't got enough RAM.
Aslong its not empty its good.
Not sure about the "minimum number recommendation".
Again, not all that ram is in use. It's set aside and used when needed.
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Ahh ok thanks, the only time i see like 1.7 to 1.9 is after a reset, it mostly stays at 1.2 to 1.5, i guess thats still good
Is that normal? How much free RAM do you guys have?
doesn't look like it, but mine is the same. I believe it is the lollipop memory leak issue...so as usual we just have to wait it out
Sucks that just as we are finally seeing 3 Gig of RAM we end up in the same situation as when we had 2Gig ?
I have not upgraded to to 2015 Flagship Standard yet but ...
I was hoping to START at the beginning of Boot Up with about
1.7 -2 GIGs of free RAM for Tasking etc.
I think " upgrading" to Lollipop on many Devices could create more problems than it solves - right ?
And the supposed Wifi Calling and VoLTE are not going to work
because they are Carrier Specific Software which must come directly from your Service Provider.
Free RAM is UNUSED/WASTED RAM! Understand? The more software/applications that are pushed into RAM the better because it is available to do whatever it needs to do without having to go and search for it and place into RAM! If and when you need more RAM for something new, say like opening another application...then Android will move out of RAM whatever is not being used and replace it with the new software. If your phone had 10GB of RAM it would still look nearly full. This is a GOOD thing. It's all still available for use when needed. Remember that RAM is always the fastest part of your phone. Of course the more RAM you have the more applications you can have open at any one time without any lag/stutter. But for now 3GB of RAM is quite good for a cell phone on Android.
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Is that normal? How much free RAM do you guys have?
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Is that a built-in app showing you that?
DanRyb said:
Is that a built-in app showing you that?
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Yes. it's called Smart Manager.
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Yes. it's called Smart Manager.
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I just found it a few hours ago but thanks for replying LOL. This is my first Samsung that I'm using TouchWiz in years haha.
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Free RAM is UNUSED/WASTED RAM! Understand? The more software/applications that are pushed into RAM the better because it is available to do whatever it needs to do without having to go and search for it and place into RAM! If and when you need more RAM for something new, say like opening another application...then Android will move out of RAM whatever is not being used and replace it with the new software. If your phone had 10GB of RAM it would still look nearly full. This is a GOOD thing. It's all still available for use when needed. Remember that RAM is always the fastest part of your phone. Of course the more RAM you have the more applications you can have open at any one time without any lag/stutter. But for now 3GB of RAM is quite good for a cell phone on Android.
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This right here, folks.
jaseman said:
Free RAM is UNUSED/WASTED RAM! Understand? The more software/applications that are pushed into RAM the better because it is available to do whatever it needs to do without having to go and search for it and place into RAM! If and when you need more RAM for something new, say like opening another application...then Android will move out of RAM whatever is not being used and replace it with the new software. If your phone had 10GB of RAM it would still look nearly full. This is a GOOD thing. It's all still available for use when needed. Remember that RAM is always the fastest part of your phone. Of course the more RAM you have the more applications you can have open at any one time without any lag/stutter. But for now 3GB of RAM is quite good for a cell phone on Android.
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Come on... I have Galaxy S4 now (going for S6 today). The S4 comes with 1.8GB usable memory but when it reaches arount 1.5 GB it starts lagging, and by lagging I mean a lot! The fact is that when the device has less RAM it gets laggy and it works better when it has more free memory.
Anyway the higher memory usage is probably of how Lollipop works - it preloads the entire app in the RAM instead of loading it from the flash. It is meant to speed up loading but it takes more memory and I can argue for the effect.
once there are some custom roms, this "issue" will be addressed.
until then, you just have to deal with it