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I have a perfectly good Tilt2 running Energy ROM. But months ago I have upgraded. I tried to use my Tilt as a CarPC, but the screen was too hard to navigate while driving and I have been unable to figure a way to use the touch screen monitor as an input.
So now I'm building a real infotainment system. Got the PC, front end, and screen. But I was thinking that my neglected Tilt has GPS, constant connection to the internet, blue tooth, and accelerometer. Everything I want in my system except the compass and XM.
I was hoping someone figure out how to use the phone as a USB devise for all of these things. That way I could put it in the glove box on the dock.
the back end on the pc is windows, the front end is FreeICE (for now). I'm looking into Dash Command as well as a couple of other things.
You would be my personal hero if you can help me with this.
Hey all,
I fell on top of my A100 a few weeks ago (Don't ask me how) and the side had a nice hit.
I noticed the screen is checked, but the image is clean and perfect.
The touch is not working anymore except for on 1 location, on the top part, a few square cm,
My problem is that I don't have any insurance left (took off the void) soooo,,,yeah...
I want to use it as a media player, attached to my LCD with HDMI, using a mouse to controll it.
Thing is, no mouse gets detected on this rom.
I tried to downgrade to Gingerbread from ICS, so I reset user data and cache, downloaded the ROM, changed to update.zip, placed it into the SD card, volume up + power booted it, and I get this droid opened up with a red ! on it...
Everything I try doesn't react
The mouse is a very simple HID logitech BT mouse with USB, connected to microUSB in the A100, I tried the G9x logitech too, but no luck.
Can anyone help me here? I can't use the screen at all, I am desperate
Thanks!
PVTD
The USB port on the A100 does not have host mode, you can't use it for any USB devices, it is just a way to transfer data with a PC. If you can enable BT on theA100 you will get a mouse/keyboard working, I am just not sure how to do that with no touch response on the screen.
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The USB port on the A100 does not have host mode, you can't use it for any USB devices, it is just a way to transfer data with a PC. If you can enable BT on theA100 you will get a mouse/keyboard working, I am just not sure how to do that with no touch response on the screen.
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But I have seen multiple questions abut making host mouses work with USB on the A100, I'll try find the topics back
I could connect it by BT if I keep sinning the tablet around to make the few square cm work on the screen, but it wont be possible to accept
I tried using a screening app on windows, but sadly can only see immage from the tablet, no input remotely.
PVTD said:
But I have seen multiple questions abut making host mouses work with USB on the A100, I'll try find the topics back
I could connect it by BT if I keep sinning the tablet around to make the few square cm work on the screen, but it wont be possible to accept
I tried using a screening app on windows, but sadly can only see immage from the tablet, no input remotely.
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Hey everyone
I recently got a Citroen C1 car with a touchscreen display (called "Mirror Screen") which apparently has 'mirrorlink' tech. Unfortunately my current phone (Nexus 4) doesn't support this so I decided it was time to start looking around for another phone. I've read that the HTC One M8 now supports MirrorLink but I wanted to check a few things before I get one.
Would the phone be compatible with the car since they both support 'mirrorlink'? Even though in the car manual it says only Samsung Galaxy S 3 and Samsung Note are supported (I'm thinking this information is out of date)?
And if it does support it, are there any stock-android custom roms that support mirrorlink?
Thanks
It should be supported, i haven't read of any head unit specific restrictions for phones.
As Long as the phone has mirrorlink and a car app then it should connect. Mirrorlink is not all that great, i've only used mine a couple of times to get google maps in my car and even then it would freeze up randomly and the audio goes a bit crazy.
The way it works it keeps the screen on on the phone on the dimmest setting, the phone is red hot constantly. If you push the power button to turn off the screen mirrorlink closes.
Also, you can have mirrorlink OR radio on, not both. bluetooth wont work at the same time either.
Is there a way to turn smartphone screen off when mirrorlink is connected?
This could save the phone from generating heat and also there is no point in getting both the head unit screen and the smartphone screen turned on.
I am hoping I can find some help in here with a couple problems I am running into on this system that would make it so much better to me.
The system is basically an Android box utilizing the touch screen and monitor of my Uconnect 8.4 head unit. The naming in the settings is rk3188 and is running on KitKat 4.4.4, so it is some variant of the Android TV boxes. If there are other specs or info that are needed to help in possibly fixing my issues please let me know.
Issue 1: although not major, there is no option to have OK Google from any screen. Having this option for a car system is obviously something helpful. In the settings of the Google App trying to access the menu for OK Google detection doesn't work, so I can't even get to the screen where that option lives. I have the most up to date version of Google App and Google Play Services. I have Google searched on ways to fix this but nothing has brought that ability up. I know Android version 4.4.4 was capable of this. There was another app that utilized Googles voice engine and allowed this function but Google made him stop using their servers and killed that as an option.
Issue 2: this is the biggest bother to me and I could not find anything even related to what's happening in my searches. The system comes loaded with some apps and using Launcher3 for its front end, it has big buttons but offers almost no ability to customize it. The bottom row has apps that you cannot switch out to anything else, and 3 of them I will never be using. The system works but is not as nice as it could look or function. The obvious answer is to use a different launcher which is where the problem arises. I have tried to use Nova and Apex so far with the same very frustrating outcome. After the install everything is great, I can set the screen up to look amazing and add icons and functionality that really make it a great experience. So everything is working lovely then I shut my truck off and go do whatever. The next time I come back I start the truck up everything loads fine, the new launcher and everything I did to it is working just as expected until about 5 minutes in the screen goes black for a second and then the system goes through a factory reset. Really? Are you kidding me? The first couple times I thought maybe I hit something because I hadn't fully put my truck back together but after playing with it more and having the system factory reset 5 other times I have concluded it is related to changing the launcher. I tried Nova first, then I tried Apex with the same outcome and same sequence of events. Obviously it's annoying everytime testing this because updating and reentering my info everytime just to try the launcher again is time consuming. The last test the only thing I did was a different launcher so that has to be it, but why and how can I fix it?
If anyone has any clue how using a different launcher would cause a factory reset to happen please help me out. Or if there is anything I can do to this system to prevent that. My last resort thought would be to root it but I read someone else who has this system that rooting it caused screen layout issues and made things go 90 degrees off? The loaded apps in the system have touch screen calibration and screen resizing which might be necessary for this to function with the monitor.
Thanks for any help.
I spoke with someone else that has the system and they are not having any issues with running a different launcher so something happen to my particular device. I contacted the company and they will be getting me the firmware to refresh it and hopefully that fixes the resetting issue.
i am looking to get this also. I am very curious how you like the device - it looks great though a bit out of date. Waze & email should work well. How much storage does it have? Can you add a sd card or something?
RichTJ99 said:
i am looking to get this also. I am very curious how you like the device - it looks great though a bit out of date. Waze & email should work well. How much storage does it have? Can you add a sd card or something?
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I'm getting a new unit sent out, it seems there are 2 versions and for whatever reason mine wouldn't let me customize the launcher.
But even though it's outdated, every app I tried worked just fine, they still install the latest versions. The system has 8gb of on board storage and a microSD card slot that is mainly for loading maps for offline navigation. I think you can still access it for other uses, but they have a better option for that. There is a USB input for flash drives or external drives. I tried my 2TB external drive on it and it accessed my movies fine from it.
How did you get it installed? Who?
got any pics?
Actually I would be interested in this too, I have an Alfa Romeo and the Uconnect 6.5 (european version) which isn't that great, it would be nice to attach a sort of box with ARM hardware running on Android and using the display and touch of the existing Uconnect. The question is, how this can be done?
http://www.dodgedurango.net/forums/.../24632-android-phone-uconnect-8-4-screen.html
I would check out this thread. It has two videos that walk you through the entire process - great info!
I also bought this latest Android system V4 2 weeks ago. Auto launcher pro app is very good working. At the moment there is a issue with the system time, which is not correctly synchronized with gps time. Carperformance Team is working on a fix for that. How can I get root Access for this Android 7 System?
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I also bought this latest Android system V4 2 weeks ago. Auto launcher pro app is very good working. At the moment there is a issue with the system time, which is not correctly synchronized with gps time. Carperformance Team is working on a fix for that. How can I get root Access for this Android 7 System?
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glad to hear i'm not going crazy with the clock but there is an issue.
I just bought and installed a V4 a couple weeks back too.
i must have left a loose connection cause i keep having to recall the touchscreen for android. I half-arsed the install cause we were leaving for a 2k mile roadtrip the next day- need to take it apart and do it right. Luckily you can connect a usb mouse in to trigger the calibration app.
id also love root- at the moment im trying to figure out if the one usb port is safe to connect an A to A usb cable into to get ADB. apparently on some versions of nvida sheild, you can. If they provide a firmware update for the clock fix then maybe that gets us an image to futz with for root.
a keyboard also works in teh usb port and i've tried a handful of key combos during boot to get to recovery but haven't stumbled on it yet.
I'll post back if i find anything
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glad to hear i'm not going crazy with the clock but there is an issue.
I just bought and installed a V4 a couple weeks back too.
i must have left a loose connection cause i keep having to recall the touchscreen for android. I half-arsed the install cause we were leaving for a 2k mile roadtrip the next day- need to take it apart and do it right. Luckily you can connect a usb mouse in to trigger the calibration app.
id also love root- at the moment im trying to figure out if the one usb port is safe to connect an A to A usb cable into to get ADB. apparently on some versions of nvida sheild, you can. If they provide a firmware update for the clock fix then maybe that gets us an image to futz with for root.
a keyboard also works in teh usb port and i've tried a handful of key combos during boot to get to recovery but haven't stumbled on it yet.
I'll post back if i find anything
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Hi @michaelk
Good to hear that I am not alone here with this special system V4. Except for the issue with the system time and no root access, I am fully satisfied so far. I hope to fix it soon. If we had root access then we could solve this issue with the system time with some time apps ourselves.
Thank you for your experiences.
Best regards
Diabollon
wiring harness investigation
so played around some today.
I've got an issue where I need to recalibrate the screen almost every time I boot. it seems the box (or card added to the radio?) forgets things and only works the bottom right corner and also seems to rotate 90 degrees at boot. The end result is unusable screen. I think carperformance is just a reseller because of their response. They're friendly and reply quickly but are really unable to help. The first answer was just randomly fiddle with screen and try to find calibrate setting and reboot- that proved impossible and on my own I discovered a 6 dollar USB mouse from the Walmart could be used to navigate to the calibrate app. When I inquired again when it got more frequent they basically said it's not normal and offered no help except to adjust a personalization setting to run calibrate on boot- that only works once that I can figure (might be related to weird time bug)- so I settled on having tasker run calibrate on each boot. I wonder if there is a battery in the box that needs changing but the warranty sticker keeps me out for not- might add an external battery to keep it alive for a longer time to minimize the rebooting
Anyway took everything apart today to double-check and can't find any connection issues. I traced the harness a bit to try and understand a little and basically, the skinny cables run the daughterboard to snag the screen output and the touchscreen input. But i wanted to figure out what is tapped from the radio harness to the large white plug on the box and see if anything going on their .
DISCLAIMER- I NEED TO CONFIRM (it was hot - laughing) but basically seems what is tapped in radio harness is:
1) power and ground also
2) L&R aux audio signal- interesting here is they tapped a single ground (physically next to the right signal) for common. Earlier i had the RAX hack and their harness used a ground for each L&R and their aux input worked all the time without the little plugin shunt thing to trick aux input. When i dug some more and found a pin diagram from mopar I found that the 'left' ground is actually labeled "aux audio device detect signal" I need to play some more to see what happens but my guess is if we put a switch on that to short it to ground then the aux would just work to avoid the hokey plug.
3) Here's the fun- holding the screen to flip inputs could be the daughterboard running things. BUT since it also reacts to the left steering wheel button pack and switches inputs itself when you need the reverse cam- i figured it reads the can bus. and sure enough, it looks like it taps CAN IHS (+) and CAN IHS (-). Very cool that it would get into the whole bus and read anything- BUT since there are other FCA vehicles that don't auto-switch inputs on revers and they have alternate connections it seems the real dev is not involved to update things to sniff for other reverse signals. Reading around here- seems that there is probably a custom serial port someplace in the box that reads this and there's probably no documentation for us to do anything ourselves. But one can hope...
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michaelk said:
glad to hear i'm not going crazy with the clock but there is an issue.
I just bought and installed a V4 a couple weeks back too.
i must have left a loose connection cause i keep having to recall the touchscreen for android. I half-arsed the install cause we were leaving for a 2k mile roadtrip the next day- need to take it apart and do it right. Luckily you can connect a usb mouse in to trigger the calibration app.
id also love root- at the moment im trying to figure out if the one usb port is safe to connect an A to A usb cable into to get ADB. apparently on some versions of nvida sheild, you can. If they provide a firmware update for the clock fix then maybe that gets us an image to futz with for root.
a keyboard also works in teh usb port and i've tried a handful of key combos during boot to get to recovery but haven't stumbled on it yet.
I'll post back if i find anything
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So the spec for the chipset for the V4 says it can handle an OTG port and a couple (maybe 3?) other USB ports. Obviously, the box only has the one USB A port visible on the pigtail. I wish we could get in the box and look for a header for the OTG port to help rooting but.... the darn warranty sticker.
on the FCA/Dodge side of things- I have a Durango with a USB port and SD card reader in the dash (USB Media "Hub" Apparently, FCA uses USB Mini B connectors to interconnect all the ports and the radio. They use latching connectors that are keyed but if you undo them there's a standard USB mini B in there. They do some odd male/female things so you have to pay attention to where you undo cables, but bottom line you can undo the connector on the back of the dash's USB port and stuff a USB mini B female on it and connect it to whatever host device you want.
I first tried an old laptop in case there's anything weird going on. My Dash "Hub" actually has 2 mini-B connectors and a multipin auto harness. Without the harness when you connect it to windows it sees a USB Hub, but the USB port was still dead. So I assumed it needs power from the harness on the back of the dash hub and connected that. UP popped up a USB mass storage device which I believe is the SD card reader- didn't get around to confirming and then the USB port also comes to life. Knowing that it was safe at that point I connected it to the USB A Host port on the box and presto chango now I have the in-dash port connected to the android tv box without any exposed wiring.
Connected the "android auto dongle" through the cars USB port and that works perfectly. I ordered a used 2 USB dash hub from eBay (later model years have 2 and will see what that does. The pictures of that also show the 2 mini B ports- I'll play some more when I get that. I'm not sure what is in those dongles but from the other folks hacking android auto into older models (by using newer radios) apparently, one port works for android auto and the other doesn't. The scuttle is its a body module programming thing but I wonder if maybe there's something physical in there and so the dongle won't be necessary any longer with the new hub? My other thought is if the two USB min B jacks allow you to connect to 2 different hosts- I would try one on the original Uconnect (in case I ever need to update the software) and the other for the android TV box.
So apparently the android tv box handles hubs just fine. As I mentioned earlier it handles a mouse or USB keyboard fine. Also, I played around and connected my hotspot by USB instead of wifi so the device sees it as a modem and that works just fine- so I assume a USB modem works out of the box too. (again odd if that works that carperformance sells a hotspot and not USB modem- like they don't know what the box can do)
I disassembled my display 2 times until it worked. After the first start, I had a black screen. I thought that was it... After 3 times it finally worked. I also had a cable on the plug which has easily resolved. I think you will also have a loose contact somewhere. One time I also had the display calibration gone. Then I connected my old usb keyboard and could then start the display calibration. I reset the system before. So far, the system works without problems. I also have a passive 4-way usb hub to connect.
I have already connected cables for the frontcam but have not yet moved into the engine compartment.
In the video tutorial of Carperformance, you can see when you switch to drive, the display then changes to the frontcam or signal from the cam, but the display does not change to the Frontcam signal with me.
Do you have with you the signal on the display of the camera when switching to drive?
Adw2 = bad mix
Went back and forth many times in email and turns out my calibration issue was probably all ADW2 launcher, guess it conflicts with whatever app they use to communicate with the display.
in the process of troubleshooting I got the update zip for the current version but I don't think those have recovery partition in there and so can't help root? I need to read some more.
I've ripped everything apart like 12 times with the screen, so that my front cam is not connected right now. For the brief time I had it, it was connected to one of the smaller video in pin connectors and don't think it worked in drive by itself, but can't really say for certain. I think certain models can't get the canbus command to see reverse and if I understand they connect in to the video in on the main connector and then use a point on the car that is energized to trigger the switch on that connection. If your adventurous they seem to have to flip a dip also. I think it's the Cherokees or maybe grand Cherokee so maybe Google their thread's? This site gives connector pin outs
http://connectors.dcctools.com/home.htm
There might be a lead for the drive on your shifter if lucky. I think I read the reverse shoulder comes from a body control box in the passenger wheel well?
Also they're super friendly and never wrong when you email but they can be brief. So you could ask if there's a dipswitch to flip to enable auto switching one of the inputs. Hec maybe we should just ask for a table of where the dips do...
(Sorry for any typos... Will try to edit later)
Supposedly it is enough to connect the extra input cable for DVD or CMMB. That answered me Carperformance. Before, I had no external input cable connected. That's why no signal came. The OEM rearcam works flawlessly.
Also, I forgot, they have a workaround for the clock bug
For the clock there is a fix
https://www.youtube.com/watchv=3OEEbah53QY&t=1s
michaelk said:
Also, I forgot, they have a workaround for the clock bug
For the clock there is a fix
https://www.youtube.com/watchv=3OEEbah53QY&t=1s
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Unfortunately it's not available.
Diabollon said:
Unfortunately it's not available.
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try this-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OEEbah53QY&t=1s
michaelk said:
try this-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OEEbah53QY&t=1s
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It's a cheaper fix but so no solution. Carperformance should offer a software update with root access. Then we would be satisfied. We should expect it for the money.
My frontcam is working now good.
You already tried Android auto? Which USB dongle do you use? Do you need a special app for this?
My China usb dongle does not want to connect properly with my oneplus 6T.
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Android auto is working with Pumpkin USB dongle and autoplaybox app. The noname China scrap goes back to shop.
The time fix is working until now also. Thanks for this info. The carperformance, they wrote or informed the affected people who ordered it. I did not get any info.
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My frontcam is working now good.
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besides powering your camera and connecting the yellow RCA video signal did you have to do anything else?
something with the red signal wire maybe?
I cant consistently get a signal on my front cam and not sure if the camera is bad or my setup
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few other notes for others-
FCA "aux audio device detect signal" harness line is actually normally closed (I think shorted to ground)- if you break the connection the oew radio flips right to aux in. make the connection again and it flips back to previous input.
the in dash usb port is infact a powered hub. I originally had a usb + SD card combo and replaced it with 2 usb port and works fine. FCA uses mini b connections to it- just use a usb a to mini b cable to connect it to the android auto box and your indash usb port(s) will work on android auto (And provide more watts to charge your stuff). oddly either dahs hub has a second usb mini b connector that i played around with a little but never could figure out what it does
more can bus fun! - i updated the dongle firmware on the android auto dongle sold direct from carperforance and now it has a beta feature to map buttons. somehow it seems to be sniffing the canbus through the android tv box. it has arrow keys, numbers, enter, etc and you use the app to select the input to assign then you press the same button on the car twice- it sniffs the signal and assignes it. I My durango has the button packs on the steering wheel and i was able to assign up, down, left, right and get it to have the android auto respond. Need to play more but i think it actually goes android wide. For example i think the down button on my steering wheel was sending page down to the chrome browser i had open on the box. Pretty cool stuff if they expand that.
Got my Fold 3 a few days ago. Got is setup and plugged it into my truc,k and my Android Auto unit reads "No Device'". My Note 10 works fine but not my new phone. My headunit is a Jensen (like I said, worked fined with my Note 10). The Fold3 works find in my Nissan (Pioneer head unit) and my Edge (factory Ford Sync).
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Got my Fold 3 a few days ago. Got is setup and plugged it into my truc,k and my Android Auto unit reads "No Device'". My Note 10 works fine but not my new phone. My headunit is a Jensen (like I said, worked fined with my Note 10). The Fold3 works find in my Nissan (Pioneer head unit) and my Edge (factory Ford Sync).
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I am no expert here, but when I had a similar issue. I believe it is because I transferred everything from my prior phone to the new one. I got the same error when trying to pair my phone with wireless Android Auto in my Kia K5. My solution was to goto Google Play Services and clear the cache there. For some reason that allowed my phone to be found by my reciever. and worked. I didn't experince this with my new ZF3 but I did when I got my Note 20 Ultra last year. So try clearing the cache in Google Play Services.
Hey so try clearing the cache in the Google Play Services app. This worked for me when I had a similar issue with my Kia K5 going from Note 9 to Note 20 Ultra. I got the same error no device. This was going to a wireless head unit for AA. I finally figureout how to clear the cache in the Google Play Services app. Then went back to connect and it worked. Try this. It may work for the ZF3. Thankfully I did not have the same issue going from the Note 20 Ultra to ZF3. But this is what I would have done.
Thanks, man. I did that and to no avail. My phone is still not being recognized by my truck. When I press "Android Auto" on my head unit, I still get the message "No Device"
I'd flip cables for sure. Then I'd go to your setting when plugged in and make sure it's not set to charge only on the phone. Should be adjustable from the notification on charging.
I've having some weird issues with android auto and my fold 3. I've noticed when connected to android auto I often loose cellular data and it switches from 5g/lte/edge and no service. If I disable android auto the phone operates normally. Anyone else seeing anything similar.
Just a thought for OP. Did you happen to try opening Android Auto app in phone and checking to see if truck is an added vehicle and add if not?
The cable seems the most viable option. There is no option to select or deselect charging only, and Android Auto is no longer separate app. It is built into the OS and automatically opens when the phone is plugged into a headunit and there are no options to manipulate. The pain is that the dash has be pulled out to change the cable so I'll have to research a certified cable.
Did you buy chance to to settings > advance settings > then use Android auto there? Not sure if a setting in that will help. When I open it it wantsto attempt to connect to vehicle
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Did you buy chance to to settings > advance settings > then use Android auto there? Not sure if a setting in that will help. When I open it it wantsto attempt to connect to vehicle
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When I go there, I get the button to connect to a car, but when I plug the cable in, nothing happens and the head unti still displays no device. I'm thinking that I'm going to have to remove the dash and change the cable.
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When I go there, I get the button to connect to a car, but when I plug the cable in, nothing happens and the head unti still displays no device. I'm thinking that I'm going to have to remove the dash and change the cable.
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Ah well unfortunately don't no more than that, just knew I saw an android auto option in there. My car doesn't support wireless and haven't tried the wired part yet to see
Well, removed the dash and head unit and changed the cable. I tried a Belkin USB-C certifed cable and even the known working cable from my other truck, and got the same thing.
On the phone I get the notification to stop my truck and apply the parking brake to continue and on the head unit I still get the notice of "no device" when I press the screen for Android Auto. At this point, I'm hoping I don't have to change my head unit to get this setup to work.
Weird mine worked just fine.
Did you make sure everything was updated
Yeah. I called Jensen they say it's a phone problem, Samsung says it's a Jensen problem
Got an email from Jensen customer service. My HU uses a bypass to allow certain functions while my truck is moving. I installed the HU myself and also installed the bypass. Jensen engineers found that I need to disconnect the parking brake wire from the bypass and connect it to chassis ground. I did that and was able to connect. I'm so happy to be able to use my phone in my truck.