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What's the big hype?

I hope I don't offend anyone and I'm not trying to start any war between AOKP and CM9 but I just wanted to know what's the big hype about CM9? I see some features in AOKP that I haven't seen in CM9. Just seems like everyone is going crazy over CM and I've flashed their rom before and enjoyed their hard work and I am thankful of every team out there that makes Roms. Don't want to seem like that bad guy.

A lot of people have been running CM for a long time (like since CM5 launched). Its that quintessential custom ROM that lots of people have an attachment to I think.

martonikaj said:
A lot of people have been running CM for a long time (like since CM5 launched). Its that quintessential custom ROM that lots of people have an attachment to I think.
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Gotcha, thats understandable. I just expected them to blow other roms out the water but AOKP has been extremely stable and full of customization.

From my expierence on the boards (going back to when the HTC EVO was the biggest baddest on the block) CM is a nameplate that carrys a long history of being a very lightweight Rom . It has always had a good sized list of developers on its team through during its time . Its also known as one of the roms that usually has multipul devices under its sleeves . Not to go overboard but finding better fitting descriptions . They are more or less legend when it comes to roms . There has always been a CM(x) out there . Im sure there will always been a CM(x) for future devices as well . I think basically the convience is as people switch devices as time goes on there is always a constant these people can look to and that is CM . Atleast thats my take on it

SouthernEvo said:
From my expierence on the boards (going back to when the HTC EVO was the biggest baddest on the block) CM is a nameplate that carrys a long history of being a very lightweight Rom . It has always had a good sized list of developers on its team through during its time . Its also known as one of the roms that usually has multipul devices under its sleeves . Not to go overboard but finding better fitting descriptions . They are more or less legend when it comes to roms . There has always been a CM(x) out there . Im sure there will always been a CM(x) for future devices as well . I think basically the convience is as people switch devices as time goes on there is always a constant these people can look to and that is CM . Atleast thats my take on it
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cool cool. thanks for your input. I ran their rom when I had my G2x and i liked it

Soldi3rxx said:
Gotcha, thats understandable. I just expected them to blow other roms out the water but AOKP has been extremely stable and full of customization.
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You also have to understand that cyanogenmod just released their first nightly for the Galaxy Nexus, while AOKP has been out for some time (though I don't know exactly how long since I'm fairly new to the galaxy nexus myself). CM also has supported tons of devices (over 60 if wikipedia is right ).

Stability, lightweight, and an approach that borders straight professionalism. That's why I like CM and have always had it on mine--and my friends'--phones.
Some roms are really, really fun and have a variety of positives (and negatives). Other roms choose to improve upon the basic Android OS and offer the user that functions simply but contains a host of neat features. CM is the latter in my book.

CM9 currently lacks some settings other roms have. That said CM9 will add them and much more, work on a plethora of devices and remain working with updates long after many of these other Roms are long dead.

CM9 may lack some features compared to other roms but no roms lack in features borrowed from CM9.

Talk to me when AOKP supports 50+ devices....
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I think with ICS everything changed and cyan got set back significantly due to drastic OS changes. So yes aokp is far ahead right now.

adrynalyne said:
CM9 may lack some features compared to other roms but no roms lack in features borrowed from CM9.
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I'm not sure if this saying still works, but "quoted for truth."
A rom without ANY CM influence/features is a rarity, and dare I say it pretty impossible to find.
CM9 may lack features, but so far it's the most stable "nightly" I've come across.

matt2053 said:
Talk to me when AOKP supports 50+ devices....
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It's actually slowly going in that direction with the multiple device support of AOKP expanding to many devices including the T-Mobile Vibrant (recently!)

dmmarck said:
I'm not sure if this saying still works, but "quoted for truth."
A rom without ANY CM influence/features is a rarity, and dare I say it pretty impossible to find
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You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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ljordan2 said:
You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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Yup have heard the same.
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ljordan2 said:
You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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Some? A lot of MIUI is based off of CM source.

CM9 has been slower out of the gates because of reasons already mentioned; namely a huge stable of devices to support, the build bot was borked for quite a while as well. Settings will come in time, again # of devices. They also lay the ground work for many other ROMs, not to say that there aren't people doing a lot of coding of their own.
For many devices they're the only AOSP like ROM available. It's stable and quick, but if you absolutely need a lot of the custom settings right now, then you'll have to look elsewhere for the moment.

cm rom are good and much much more stable, from my own experience.

mudferret said:
For many devices they're the only AOSP like ROM available. It's stable and quick, but if you absolutely need a lot of the custom settings right now, then you'll have to look elsewhere for the moment.
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So what is the point of flashing CM9 on the GNex? Stock is already stable and quick and CM9 doesn't seem to have any extra features..

gabster21 said:
So what is the point of flashing CM9 on the GNex? Stock is already stable and quick and CM9 doesn't seem to have any extra features..
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There is no stock 4.0.3 for the GN
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AOKP M4 vs. CM9 Kang by winner

I've been using CM9 Kang by winner for a while now. I love it. Was thinking of switching over to AOKP M4 just to see if its better.
I'm using Franco's Kernel and I heard M4 is better than Stock AOKP.
Let me know your thoughts!
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AOKP FTW..!!!
I use AOKP since i get my Gnex and i can see their development speed which are amazingly fast.. If your interest are more on tweaks and extra features, i think better go for AOKP for now while waiting CM9 to release their milestone. I never flash CM9, i cant give much comment on their ROM. For kernel wise, i prefer Glados over Franco because Glados are more stable and problem free most of the time. Franco always implement features from Glados, sound like Glados is the master

Axi0m Crossbreed fo sho. =]

shadowstewie said:
I've been using CM9 Kang by winner for a while now. I love it. Was thinking of switching over to AOKP M4 just to see if its better.
I'm using Franco's Kernel and I heard M4 is better than Stock AOKP.
Let me know your thoughts!
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I will chime in here because I was in the same boat. However, I was using AOKP M4 w/ franco's kernel first. I read several posts/threads that stated how CM9 was smoother and faster than AOKP because of less features built-in.
I just flashed CM9 today w/ franco's kernel and I can definitely tell a difference - CM9 is the winner here. It only makes sense from the big picture. The CM guys know their poop - they've been developing ROMs far longer than any of these other guys.

My first rom that i flashed was winners CM9 Kang. Was very smooth. My only gripe was there were no mods for it. I switched over to AOKP and never looked back. Equally just as fast with tons of mods.
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You can always use Boot Manager as well to compare different roms. Works nicely for me, sometimes has issues with certain roms.

nbeebe24 said:
To answer your question, aokp is rich with features for customization of almost every aspect of the from. As of now cyanogenmod is playing catch up. But I know it'll be amazing in a short time. Most people use aokp because it requires less work to add/subtract what you do or don't want.
CM has a great reputation, but right now its nearly stock. I am waiting to see what they come out with then I'll probably run it (as I have on my previous nexus'). It all comes down to what you're looking for. If you want features galore, aokp is the right choice. Just run it until CM9 gets rolling
Some of you really need to get off your high horse. Sarcastic and rude comments are totally unnecessary. What if your teachers in kindergarten and beyond told you to stop asking stupid questions? This is a place for learning, sharing, and growing not for ridiculing.
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Here here, well said.
I find myself switching back and forward between yhese two roms there both really good so i aint fonna say witch i think is best.
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My opinion is that, I will keep use AOKP M4 and not consider CM9 until there comes the stable version of CM9. Just for stability.

kalaexj said:
My opinion is that, I will keep use AOKP M4 and not consider CM9 until there comes the stable version of CM9. Just for stability.
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CM9 has been incredibly stable since the "experimental" builds. CM tends to have a different definition of "stable".

adrynalyne said:
This isn't rocket science. You try both and make an informed decision. Everyone values things differently. Others cannot make an informed decision for you.
Call it sarcastic or rude, if you want. I call it thinking for yourself, because nobody has unbiased or objective rom reviews. Its all fanboish nonsense.
Apple thrives off of those who don't want to make a decision themselves, by the way.
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Agreed, its not rocket science, but I just think people throughout these threads have been answering in unnecessarily rude ways. Just tell him the CM9 is minimal right now and AOKP has a lot of features. There's car references and all kinds of unneeded things going on in here
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I just deleted over half the posts in this thread.......
It's simple. If you don't want to help or have anything helpful to say, back out of the thread and move on. I will only say this once.

mudferret said:
CM9 has been incredibly stable since the "experimental" builds. CM tends to have a different definition of "stable".
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But for the newbie who first time to hack my GN, I don't like the the word like 'Nightly' or 'Experiemental' in the version name. If there has some version of CM9 that's truly stable or stable enough, I think it should publish it as 'Milestone' or 'Stable'. This kinds of word are the only keyword for the people unfamiliar with CM9 to make decision to use or not, doesn't it? If so, I think I will believe the team and give a try if there's a stable version. Everybody know CM series have good reputation.

kalaexj said:
But for the newbie who first time to hack my GN, I don't like the the word like 'Nightly' or 'Experiemental' in the version name. If there has some version of CM9 that's truly stable or stable enough, I think it should publish it as 'Milestone' or 'Stable'. This kinds of word are the only keyword for the people unfamiliar with CM9 to make decision to use or not, doesn't it? If so, I think I will believe the team and give a try if there's a stable version. Everybody know CM series have good reputation.
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the cm9 nightlies (experimental) are very very stable and good for daily use but,
like said in here before, they lack quite some of the extra features
if you're looking for rom's with more options try AOKP, Gummynex, Codename Android or any other rom you can find on xda ... they are all good roms which give you plenty of options.
it's all just a matter of personal taste in the end i guess
good luck and enjoy!

kalaexj said:
But for the newbie who first time to hack my GN, I don't like the the word like 'Nightly' or 'Experiemental' in the version name. If there has some version of CM9 that's truly stable or stable enough, I think it should publish it as 'Milestone' or 'Stable'. This kinds of word are the only keyword for the people unfamiliar with CM9 to make decision to use or not, doesn't it? If so, I think I will believe the team and give a try if there's a stable version. Everybody know CM series have good reputation.
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I hear what you're saying; and I agree the nomenclature can strike fear into newbies.
Luckily with the GN there are a lot of good ROMs available; more quality options to choose from compared to other devices.

I'll find Apex rom very fast and very stable, with leankernel. He's only problem is that it's not update for a while, that could indicate an abandon from the dev. Instead, roman, from AOKP, is very dedicated and his rom growing fast and constantly

Edit: Meh, I'll just try them all!

Coming to ICS Rom first time which is best?

Ok i have not put anything new on my phone in a month.I have cauks older Rom.I have not even updated it.
I was reading the development section and i am lost in reading.So going to 1 for the first time and not having tons of issues that i get stuck with which Rom seems to be doing the best in the ICS rom section?
I understand ill get different views from people who love 1 person but i really just want to best Rom going on right now.
thanks.

rdcrds said:
Ok i have not put anything new on my phone in a month.I have cauks older Rom.I have not even updated it.
I was reading the development section and i am lost in reading.So going to 1 for the first time and not having tons of issues that i get stuck with which Rom seems to be doing the best in the ICS rom section?
I understand ill get different views from people who love 1 person but i really just want to best Rom going on right now.
thanks.
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I like Calks (2) Roms...Either One and and right now Im runnin Mijjah 74's Goodness at the Moment...Ive run all three... All three Roms work exceptionally Well..

probably Calkulin but...
i agree about the three of those being good bets. i've heard and read the most positive things about Calukin's stuff. It's not uncommon for other ROMs to be based on his work.
That being said, I'm also on Mijjah's Blend ICS (the Goodness). The earlier versions had a few more hiccups (mainly GPS). I'm on ver 2.5.1 and have not ran into any issues yet. GPS, check. Notification sounds, check. Notification LED indicator... oh, OK. 1 minor issue so far.

The test builds of CM9 is working pretty well, battery life is kinda bad though and for some reason it doesn't play audio through my car dock.
Sigh, back to Gingerbread I go...

Depends on your personal preference... If you wish to remain on Touchwiz, try one of the above suggestions.
For AOSP, there's CM9, AOKP, and Codename. All are smooth and filled with customizable options.
Personally, I'm in love with Codename(over General atm)
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AOKP is badass for sure, TCP did a great job. Much better than the others imo. Havent tried Codename yet but i hear its slightly better due to more customizing

rdcrds said:
Ok i have not put anything new on my phone in a month.I have cauks older Rom.I have not even updated it.
I was reading the development section and i am lost in reading.So going to 1 for the first time and not having tons of issues that i get stuck with which Rom seems to be doing the best in the ICS rom section?
I understand ill get different views from people who love 1 person but i really just want to best Rom going on right now.
thanks.
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These ICS roms have tons of bugs. Nothing really major aside from complete incompatibility with my bt car kit.
But still, they are far from being a daily driver.
If I had to choose, I'd probably pick aospmod rom.

nabbed said:
These ICS roms have tons of bugs. Nothing really major aside from complete incompatibility with my bt car kit.
But still, they are far from being a daily driver.
If I had to choose, I'd probably pick aospmod rom.
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False, the FC leaks ones are 99% bug free.
CM9, Codename and AOKP all have their share of serious bugs.

zonlicht said:
False, the FC leaks ones are 99% bug free.
CM9, Codename and AOKP all have their share of serious bugs.
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I've been running Codename for a week, and haven't experienced a single serious bug. It's almost as solid for me as the GB Touchwiz roms were.
OP, it really depends on what you want. If you want Touchwiz, then I'd definitely go with one of Calk's roms. If you want AOSP, then I'd recommend Codename, followed by CM9, then AOKP.

zonlicht said:
False, the FC leaks ones are 99% bug free.
CM9, Codename and AOKP all have their share of serious bugs.
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I think 99% might be an overestimate. Some lucky folk have had that experience, a great many other people are getting only a "few" bugs, but fundamental ones, like borked contacts and failing notifications, etc.
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zonlicht said:
False, the FC leaks ones are 99% bug free.
CM9, Codename and AOKP all have their share of serious bugs.
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What do you mean by 99% bug free? One percent of phone functions are broken? Out of what, a thousand?
I'd agree. And that one percent is almost always a deal breaker.

blackroseMD1 said:
I've been running Codename for a week, and haven't experienced a single serious bug. It's almost as solid for me as the GB Touchwiz roms were.
OP, it really depends on what you want. If you want Touchwiz, then I'd definitely go with one of Calk's roms. If you want AOSP, then I'd recommend Codename, followed by CM9, then AOKP.
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So, you're saying your video camera works perfect?

slick4mitch said:
So, you're saying your video camera works perfect?
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I said serious bugs. I don't ever use my video camera, so it's not a serious bug for me. It may be to the OP, and if so, then I would recommend that they stay on a rom where the video camera works.

nabbed said:
What do you mean by 99% bug free? One percent of phone functions are broken? Out of what, a thousand?
I'd agree. And that one percent is almost always a deal breaker.
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I don't know of any rom on any phone that works 100%. Even official Samsung releases don't work 100%.

I keep running back to gingerbread. I kept telling myself that I will try ics when its an official release. I get the itch to flash something and always go back to what works. I was running for a day, a rom from someone, but had to Odin back to EL29 because there was something I wanted to do but couldn't because of a snafu. I personally prefer stability over the newest bells and whistles.

oscarthegrouch said:
I keep running back to gingerbread. I kept telling myself that I will try ics when its an official release. I get the itch to flash something and always go back to what works. I was running for a day, a rom from someone, but had to Odin back to EL29 because there was something I wanted to do but couldn't because of a snafu. I personally prefer stability over the newest bells and whistles.
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Same here. I keep telling myself it would be the same, buggy enough not to be useful as a daily driver, but the flashaholic in me takes over.
So, hours are usually wasted.

Yeah i think ill just update cauks non ics rom for a bit yet and let the bugs play out.

I've been running Agat63's tFCXX series (currently on tFC18 0.1.1) since FC06; they're as smooth as ICS roms get, IMHO. A nice light "frosting" of the AOSP ICS look (courtesy of tiffany84), choice between stock and rogue-repacked (w/ CWM recovery) kernels, otherwise generally fairly close to the "stock" leaks except where Agat can convince himself he's not adding bugs/instability beyond what is naturally going to be in a leaked pre-release with build.prop tweaks, bloatware trimming, and such. Plus he's incredibly responsive to his users' requests and very open to providing them options.
FC06/FC07 was _just_ good enough to be a DD for me (but _barely_). FC15 and now FC18 have been nearly flawless in my experience. Of course, YMMV but I find _very_ little to complain about. Just my experience - the one thing I've learned from reading a LOT in ICS related threads is that everybody's phone behaves a little bit differently, everyone uses their phone a little bit differently, and everyone wants something a little bit different -- my recommendation would be to nandroid and start testing the roms ppl mention in this thread until you find one that works well for you (or decide ICS isn't done enough for you yet and you want to stay on GB a little bit longer).

jt_hatch said:
my recommendation would be to nandroid and start testing the roms ppl mention in this thread until you find one that works well for you (or decide ICS isn't done enough for you yet and you want to stay on GB a little bit longer).
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My recommendation would be to wait until an official ICS release.
There's really not that much new ICS has to offer over GB. Not for this phone anyway.

nabbed said:
My recommendation would be to wait until an official ICS release.
There's really not that much new ICS has to offer over GB. Not for this phone anyway.
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For tw roms, yes ics is very similar to gb. But there's a world of difference between gb aosp and ics aosp. Like cm7 << cm9. Agreed that there's still bugs to be worked out for any ics roms, but some really good work has been done by our devs without having e4gt ics source released.
OP, if you do try ics roms right now, its a really good idea to be very cautious using any ics recovery. There is a real risk with bricking your phone, especially with aosp roms.
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[Q] AOKP VS DS e3 v7

Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.

Vibreezy said:
Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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Completely depends on the person TBH. I am currently running ICS Telus Darkside ROM as my daily driver and it's a fantastic ROM, no issues that I can complain about.
AOKP is also an amazing ROM. It's vanilla android so you don't get any bloat that you would typically get from the carrier. You also don't get manufacturer specific apps like Samsung Kies and Social Hub. What you do get is a very lean, very fast ROM with oodles and oodles of customizations.
Doesn't hurt to try and see what you like best. Just remember to make a nandroid. Peace and happy flashing. :laugh:

Vibreezy said:
Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.

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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Your high
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Your high
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In a way he's right. Aokp has issues for me as far as how out chooses to mount the Sd cards,.but so does cm9. Dark side would be the best of not for the app hang issue that remains present. The ics megamix rom has given me the best performance thus far as stability is concerned.
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jonjon68 said:
Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Wow, what an insult to the AOKP guys. To be honest both AOKP and cm9 had some of the same issues recently. So for you to talk down AOKP because that is how you come off, is putting down cm9 as well. Be careful as these teams put in a lot of free hardworking time for us.
To answer the op question.. I like both but I like AOKP better. They fixed the audio problem that drove us crazy thanks to some great team work from another group. Only issue I have ran into with whitehawkx recent build is panoramic is having audio issues. Other than that this is an amazing well put together very customizable rom. The lockscreen is pretty awesome as well. Here are a few pics.
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jonjon68 said:
Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI.
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That is a load of garbage. However, CM is another option worth considering.

jonjon68 said:
Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Hope you are wearing the right clothing, cuz you're about to get flamed.
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I say use both, I came from darkside to AOKP, but I still have darkside v7 as my nandroid back up just in case, give aokp a test run like I am right now and see where it takes you, no opinion is better than hands on experience.

Thanks all, just flashed ds so ill run it for at least a day then nandriod it and give aokp a whirl. Tbh i CAME from juggs and not a diff version of ds so i may like aokp better. Anyone got theme links for aokp?

Darkside evolution is what I'm using. Not getting any app hangs
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Since aokp is based off of cm9 they are a lot alike but aokp has more customizable features to it. There are bugs in both cm9 and aokp but it's to be expected with nightlies until it hits the stable. I have tried DS and prefer to stick with aokp. IMO
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Questions go in the Q&A section

jonjon68 said:
Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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your 2c Don't mean a damn thing...
Lol the aokp team is pretty pro mate...
sorry unlike u some of us devs have more then just 7z skills or the people u downloaded roms from were just branded stock fail...
N people wonder why most the sgs2 devs left....
and JohnJon if you knew anything you would know miui is just a straight kang of cm with no credit given... The miui team still cant build there own rom from source without borrowing from cm wonder why that is...........
@ the person who asked which is better honestly go Aokp... Alot more customizatons then cm9.. Its fast its stably and you cant go worng with the pink unicorn...

Vibreezy said:
Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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to be honest if u ever have a issue with any rom make sure you start from clean slate wipe every thing wipe it again hell after that wipe it a third time to be safe then install.. Let rom sit for 20 mins before u do anything then add your apps back.. Dont use any restores as alot of times it causes more issues then a simple re download would have done better with.

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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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You're an idiot.
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You're an idiot.
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he lost all credibility at the miui team being a real developer lol.
this no offense was a large part in having issues with deving for this device every new release had 12 pages of *****ing not any constructive comments...

jonjon68 said:
Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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WOW... That has to be the most disrespectful comment I've ever read. Do you realize how many devices the aokp team supports and how much work they put in for FREE and you go off saying they are a bunch of script kiddie edits.. These are the type of comments that has our section deemed the black sheep of android due to people like this disrespecting real devs. Next time keep your 2 cents in your pocket.

I have tried various builds of AOKP and CM9 and I keep going back to Darkside. TDJ is super helpful; if there are issues he responds light speed and gets them fixed.
AOKP and CM9 are nicer looking, I will give it that. I did, however, find that they are both buggier than darkside ROMS, as an example on both AOKP and CM9 I found that many programs did not recognize my external SD and the usual fixes did not work for me, or they did work and soon the apps would not recognize the external SD again.

Vibreezy said:
Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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Troll attempt?? You have to know how defensive folks get about the dd they choose to run.
Anyway, take features into consideration when choosing. I can't live without MMS over wifi so tmobile builds are the only way to go, for me. I do flash other ROMS pretty regularly but for me pushing the tech and seeing what the devs are capable of is where the real fun is...

need advice to choose a custom rom

I know its kinda noob question but im really new to this scene (not to android) and had desire before so i really cant decide what custom rom to install. I need a close to stock custom maybe with some speed tweaks. Right now im leaning toward cm 10.0 and see a lot of other roms with similar options. Im asking here becouse besides the options the rom has for me its also important the stability and more to be from a trusted and active developer.
Just share your experience with the rom you use if u can i willl be thankfull just to get some orientation to the scene.

Do you also let people choose your favorite color or car manufacturer for you? Seriously, test drive some and see what works best for you?
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Do you also let people choose your favorite color or car manufacturer for you? Seriously, test drive some and see what works best for you?
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These threads should die a slow unanswered death.
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wow what an answers. i simply asked and if u mind u simply dont have to answer. as for test drive not everyone has the time to play that much with flashing nor the will to try every rom out there. this place is for people to share experiences and like u smart as.s idiots to curse to everyone who whod dare to ask a noob question. if i didnt had respect for this place i wouldnt asked in Q.A and would of used development sections as many do. so if u have no intention helping someone just bugg of and mind your bussines

Well, according to your first post, CM is probably the rom for you; i still agree that you should test drive available roms. Some have more customisation options, others adopt a more debloated approach like aosp itself, and you can even build aosp by yourself!
I run a modified build of aosp put together by myself.
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i guess ill start with cm thank you and ur right if its to bloated ill beter learn to build a custom AOSP i havent done it but read the guide it didnt seem to hard to do it i have a decent power pc i guess. thnxs for the input

aliensk said:
I know its kinda noob question but im really new to this scene (not to android) and had desire before so i really cant decide what custom rom to install. I need a close to stock custom maybe with some speed tweaks. Right now im leaning toward cm 10.0 and see a lot of other roms with similar options. Im asking here becouse besides the options the rom has for me its also important the stability and more to be from a trusted and active developer.
Just share your experience with the rom you use if u can i willl be thankfull just to get some orientation to the scene.
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Rasbean Jelly is an excellent ROM, close to stock. Check out the Trnity Kernel thread. Rasbean+ Trinity, ftw !

hi. I also came from desire and so far I love the Galaxy Nexus. There's a great variety of ROMs here. So far I have tried a few, but if you are looking for a fast, stable one I would recommend Atom. I am currently on v1.25 for the maguro & I'm expecting the next version with jellybean 4.2 to drop shortly. I'm also using the Zen series kernel v7. I'm having stunning performance and battery life. over 4 hours of screen-on time with the latest kernel. it's a bit different from the other cm / aosp / aokp ROMs around. worth a shot!
alternatively, if you like 'darkness' you can try xblack. if you want to have hybrid options I.e. tablet interface on your nexus you can always give paranoid android a go. they willprobably update to 4.2 intheirlatest build expected to drop tonight anytime.
ps: haters gonna hate! ignore the un-friendlies! we all got to start somewhere.
aliensk said:
I know its kinda noob question but im really new to this scene (not to android) and had desire before so i really cant decide what custom rom to install. I need a close to stock custom maybe with some speed tweaks. Right now im leaning toward cm 10.0 and see a lot of other roms with similar options. Im asking here becouse besides the options the rom has for me its also important the stability and more to be from a trusted and active developer.
Just share your experience with the rom you use if u can i willl be thankfull just to get some orientation to the scene.
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just tried them both rasbean and atom and i like atom more but rasbean not bad also. ill try few more till a stable custom 4.2 comes around. desire scene was good but contagious it was easy to get a flashing mania and i guess this scene is also dangerous to become flash maniac not that i mind to

Well I was a flashaholic on the desire, simply because we never quite really had a stable experience on ICS and JB. So, it was a never ending quest to find a ROM (or upgrade) that was really stable and useful. Not to mention the countless issues with regards to space/sdcard/partitioning/hboot and what not!!!
I am just glad to be on Galaxy Nexus. There are some insane number of ROMs available. I try to stick to one for a couple of weeks at least and only then switch. I am now near that phase where I am itching to try something new. So, I am keeping my fingers dropped that ATOM drops the latest version (4.2) for maguro ... I know the dev already released a toro version (few days ago).
PS: You can always bookmark/subscribe to the ROM/Kernel Index (in my signature)
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just tried them both rasbean and atom and i like atom more but rasbean not bad also. ill try few more till a stable custom 4.2 comes around. desire scene was good but contagious it was easy to get a flashing mania and i guess this scene is also dangerous to become flash maniac not that i mind to
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Bugless beast is my suggestion for essentially stock... CNA is my preference for a ROM with many customizations, but I don't believe either have a 4.2 build yet (could be wrong). Currently using MMuzzy's 4.2 ROM for my toro gnex and very pleased.
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