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Play or XL. Getting a bit bored of the PLAY now
The Sensation XL has a hideous design, its dpi is so low it reminds you of a low end phone, and it's got nothing over any dual core phone out there. Save your cash for something else, because HTC has put out a lot of garbage and underwhelming hardware in 2011.
The same CPU with different clock frequency
Get a windows phone or iphone. You wont see a massive difference by just switching to another android
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Play or XL. Getting a bit bored of the PLAY now
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If you liked the controller, just wait for another play to be released. Or wait for a quad core phone
tkkyobaby1 said:
The same CPU with different clock frequency
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The Sensation has a Dual Core CPU and Adreno 220. We have Single Core CPU and Adreno 205.
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The Sensation has a Dual Core CPU and Adreno 220. We have Single Core CPU and Adreno 205.
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we are talking about the sensatio xl wich does not have dual core.
Sensation XL is 1.5ghz SINGLE CORE with Adreno 205.
so hes correct, its basically a bit higher clocked than the play and thats it.
as far as a few web searches is able to tell me anyways.
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we are talking about the sensatio xl wich does not have dual core.
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Sorry i thought all sensations were dual core
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Sensation XL is 1.5ghz SINGLE CORE with Adreno 205.
so hes correct, its basically a bit higher clocked than the play and thats it.
as far as a few web searches is able to tell me anyways.
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that would indeed be the logical train of thought.... HTC didn't agree apparently...
So its PLAY all the way
Why do they even make single core anymore?
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Why do they even make single core anymore?
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Even still, a lot of PC software doesn't have complete support for dual core (much less quad core) processors... Why would cellphone software be any better than PC software... ?
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Even still, a lot of PC software doesn't have complete support for dual core (much less quad core) processors... Why would cellphone software be any better than PC software... ?
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so the XL only has a higher clock speed? Who cares?
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it s sensation xe not xl
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I had a samsung galaxy s 2 dual core and now i have the htc one x quad core, but i can't see the difference in speed, is it normal ?
out of curiosity: does it lag on live wallpapers? can u try?
It's perfectly normal, and something I've been warning people about for a long time now. SG2 had a dual core 1.5 GHz processor, One X has a quad core 1.5 GHz processor. Having 2 more cores does not mean that the One X is twice as fast, just that it's twice as strong. There's a big difference.
Read all the way through this thread discussing the positive/negatives of dual core vs quad core processors. I spent a lot of time there trying to dispel a lot of the ignorance surrounding the science behind what makes a processor faster/stronger than the next.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557803
HTC One X should be a beast...
galaxys said:
HTC One X should be a beast...
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No, the techno-illiterate keep spreading this myth that more cores equals faster speeds. It's just not true.
It can do more things at once versus a dual core CPU, but if it's at the same Cortex class and clocked to the same speed, it's not going to be any faster.
+1 watch the video of the galaxy nexus vs the one x phone arena did, it is embarrassing how awesome the nexus looks compared to the one x.
Honestly the dual core versions with the s4 are better performers for the reason stated, better cortex and smaller nm. It also means for better battery efficiency.
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It's perfectly normal, and something I've been warning people about for a long time now. SG2 had a dual core 1.5 GHz processor, One X has a quad core 1.5 GHz processor. Having 2 more cores does not mean that the One X is twice as fast, just that it's twice as strong. There's a big difference.
Read all the way through this thread discussing the positive/negatives of dual core vs quad core processors. I spent a lot of time there trying to dispel a lot of the ignorance surrounding the science behind what makes a processor faster/stronger than the next.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557803
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Just to knit pick a tad, the SGS2 (international, ATT, T-Mobile versions) had a 1.2GHz dual core where the Skyrocket variant had the 1.5GHz
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Just to knit pick a tad, the SGS2 (international, ATT, T-Mobile versions) had a 1.2GHz dual core where the Skyrocket variant had the 1.5GHz
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Ah, I'd assumed OP had the skyrocket, else he might've noticed a slight speed increase.
I don't think the OP has EITHER phone. He's making so many post on which to buy , which means he hasn't got it? He's also saying he has a Sensation and XL... he has that many phones?
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It's perfectly normal, and something I've been warning people about for a long time now. SG2 had a dual core 1.5 GHz processor, One X has a quad core 1.5 GHz processor. Having 2 more cores does not mean that the One X is twice as fast, just that it's twice as strong. There's a big difference.
Read all the way through this thread discussing the positive/negatives of dual core vs quad core processors. I spent a lot of time there trying to dispel a lot of the ignorance surrounding the science behind what makes a processor faster/stronger than the next.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557803
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Much like PCs, the move from single to dual core showed immense promise. However, the move from dual to quad can appear very, very underwhelming.
You really have to have applications that are programmed for the architecture of your processor. Otherwise, the benefit is bragging rights, and even then, who wants to be that guy...
The gs2's touchwiz is just better built software. While not absent lag, it's the least laggy android skin.
I prefer Galaxy S II because it is more powerful in my option.
I never had a HTC phone but i think i'll take a shot some day!
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The gs2's touchwiz is just better built software. While not absent lag, it's the least laggy android skin.
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I'm sorry but that's just your opinion, my missus has the s2 and many a times it lags and touchwiz is a horrible skin, I prefer sense 4 anyday. But that's just my opinion.
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+1 watch the video of the galaxy nexus vs the one x phone arena did, it is embarrassing how awesome the nexus looks compared to the one x.
Honestly the dual core versions with the s4 are better performers for the reason stated, better cortex and smaller nm. It also means for better battery efficiency.
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Hmmm...the dual core variant kind of looks like **** here when compared to the One X tegra 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR7zfXL_RdA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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out of curiosity: does it lag on live wallpapers? can u try?
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The lag is due to sence and not the hardware, I'm using nova launcher and live wallpapers are fine.
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The lag is due to sence and not the hardware, I'm using nova launcher and live wallpapers are fine.
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'Sense' spell it right!
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Also, live wallpapers need to be optimized. There can be a 25 core A15 at 5GHz and if the software does not fully support the capabilities of the CPU, it's gonna lag.
is this possible right now
Right now no, but possible. I see no reason why you would want to overclock it.
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Faux123 isn't far away from getting it working, follow him on twitter for updates.
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Why? Battery life under load isn't great, and the thing overheats as it is
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Why? Battery life under load isn't great, and the thing overheats as it is
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...because it would be awesome?
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i want high antutu benchmarks i dont care if it ovehreats im used to hot phones as it is from the hd2 to the sensation
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i want high antutu benchmarks i dont care if it ovehreats im used to hot phones as it is from the hd2 to the sensation
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Bench marks mean nothing in the real world, also when running 4 cores It's limited to 1.2 GHz, 2 cores 1.4 GHz and 1 core 1.5 GHz
Be a better idea to work out how to remove this limit.
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...because it would be awesome?
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Agreed. I am also waiting to over clock this thing.
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Bench marks mean nothing in the real world, also when running 4 cores It's limited to 1.2 GHz, 2 cores 1.4 GHz and 1 core 1.5 GHz
Be a better idea to work out how to remove this limit.
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That seems to be the T30 version of the Tegra 3. As far as I know, we are using the T33 revision of Tegra 3, and are able to hit 1.5GHz on all cores under load. Might be wrong, but that's what I've read, we're using a new revision of Tegra 3.
i think you would be better off overclocking the gpu since the four cpu`s will be enough to run any game for the foreseeable future. i remember seeing a post saying that the could run the gpu at 600mhz and score 80+fps in the opengl egypt 720p offscreen benchmark. also the asus transformer prime has overclock and at 1.7ghz(reported stable) will hit over 14000 in antutu taking into account the higher res screen.
Nothing new since May????
What do you think? Which processor is better for HTC one X? Which has the better gpu?
Quad-core or Dual-core?
Post your opinions and comments and we'll see which one is better!
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So far my tegra is blazing fast. Running everything with ease. Now I've never had anything with a Snapdragon s4 in it so I can't really compare.
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Yup, that's what I think as well, I have tegra3 and it's amazingly fast with it's four cores.
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Yup, that's what I think as well, I have tegra3 and it's amazingly fast with it's four cores.
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I think it will get better and better with the next updates, newer/better kernel etc.. I think the One X isn't on it's best yet, due to software/kernel/drivers etc..
When I just had my One X, I had a score of 5000 @ Quadrant, at 2.05 I had 5500, with 2.15 I get ~5800.. I think the One X will reach the 6000 points too (whitout custom overclocking)
and not every app is optimized for 4 cores..
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I think it will get better and better with the next updates, newer/better kernel etc.. I think the One X isn't on it's best yet, due to software/kernel/drivers etc..
When I just had my One X, I had a score of 5000 @ Quadrant, at 2.05 I had 5500, with 2.15 I get ~5800.. I think the One X will reach the 6000 points too (whitout custom overclocking)
and not every app is optimized for 4 cores..
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If you look at the X vs XL quadrant benchmark than you can see the X beats the XL in CPU but the XL really beats the X in memory, the other ratings are more or less similar BUT most apps don't even make use of the 2 cores on the desktop let alone 4 on a phone. In the real world the XL is faster and much more energy efficient.
Android is optimized for dual core phones not yet quad core optimized. Probably key lime pie will be quad core ready. We have to wait to see awesomeness on tegra 3. HTC One S wins in some 3d/2d benchmarks because resolution is lower than one x not because of snapdragon s4 is much better than one x
Tegra has the advantage of having games written specifically for it. I doubt the S4 variant will get the same treatment.
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Tegra has the advantage of having games written specifically for it. I doubt the S4 variant will get the same treatment.
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Not that I have tried it but with chainfire3d you can play tegra games on non tegra devices
I have owned both and in my experience the s4 variant is slightly smoother in basic ui navigation but gaming is subpar compared to tegra 3 variant. Imo the tegra version isnt used to its fullest due to lack of up to date kernel and driver optimizations so with the right update it should win in all aspects. Perhaps with 4.1 mainly due to the Nexus 7 using the same chipset and JB is optimized for it
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APQ8064 1.5 - 1.7 GHz Quad Krait Adreno 320 QXGA 1080p No Modem 20 MP
gpsOneGen 8A with
GLONASS
Hexagon QDSP6
500MHz
USB 2.0 High Speed OTG
(480Mbps)
802.11a/b/g/n*
BT 3.x + HS
BT 4.0/LE FM Rx/Tx*
28nm
that is our soc.
what i need are the following answers.
---How many gpus do we have so i can set the number of gpus in the kernel? The current value is limited at 16.
---Specs on the display. (factory specs)
---Does the s4 support multi-core scheduler's? (awesome if it did)
---Also I need someone to find the various address lines in menuconfig for all variants including the n4. We might be able to make a universal kernel using that information.
---Are we using the first or second dsp6 version.
These questions directly effect the kernel
What addresses do you want? We all including mako use the same kernel address, Ramdisk varies, modem I don't remember on the top of my head. I have sbl3 and lk at home. But I don't think you care about those (for the kernel).
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When you say how many gpus do we have do you mean how many cores does the gpu have
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---Specs on the display. (factory specs)
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I hope this helps. If it doesn't let me know and I'll see what I can do
Resolution: 768x1280
Refresh Rate: 60.0
X factor for DPI: 2.0
Density: 320 dpi
Pixel/Inch X: 319.79016 dpi
Pixel/Inch Y: 318.7451 dpi
This might help
http://www.reviewresults.in/reviewresults/post/2012/09/29/Mali-400-vs-Adreno-320-GPU.aspx
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This might help
http://www.reviewresults.in/reviewresults/post/2012/09/29/Mali-400-vs-Adreno-320-GPU.aspx
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So it is a quad core GPU then.
That more seems like its a quad core soc's GPU. 4 cores doesn't seem right
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That more seems like its a quad core soc's GPU. 4 cores doesn't seem right
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Yea, especially with a 64 core gpu showing up at CES for the tegra 4.
I bet it is 16, maybe more.
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Yea, especially with a 64 core gpu showing up at CES for the tegra 4.
I bet it is 16, maybe more.
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Well 16 seems low, it could be 16 but it would be nice if it was more and the kernel is holding back. That does happen
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Well, my pals iPhone 5 smoked this phone in the gpu. I read an article that the new tegra is 64 core and it was a big deal. The tegra 3 was 12 from what I have found but a lot are only 4. I guess it is more the motion in the ocean than the size.
If I find out more I will let you know.
I found this too. http://www.reviewresults.in/reviewresults/post/2012/09/29/Tegra-3-vs-Adreno-320.aspx
It shows the Tegra 3 with 12 which I know is correct.
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It's funny how everyone puts these phones against the iphone and I pad without realizing how much of a beast this gpu is. Apple has been forced to use 3 sgs543 gpus each with 4 sub cores on the iphone 5 to get the performance that this one gpu gets with four sub cores. Just like when nvidia says their gpu has 64 cores it's 64 sub cores on one gpu.
Part of the reason that iproducts benchmark so well is due to less products to support and common socs throughout. That way, they can easily optimize the os for each product.
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