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1ghz dual core vs 1ghz single core

The HTC desire has a 1ghz single core processor and the LG optimus 2x has a 1ghz dual core processor, so I can assume that the HTC desire is as fast as the LG optimus 2x right?

sebastianlow said:
The HTC desire has a 1ghz single core processor and the LG optimus 2x has a 1ghz dual core processor, so I can assume that the HTC desire is as fast as the LG optimus 2x right?
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If you where running a app that is only built for single core then yes, but the dual is 2x faster if it was using a app built for it.

Even with an app optimized for dual core it won't be twice as fast as the CPU isn't the only factor there. You have things like memory and storage speed etc.

philje123 said:
Even with an app optimized for dual core it won't be twice as fast as the CPU isn't the only factor there. You have things like memory and storage speed etc.
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True i'll be waitting till 2012 for my next phone, Desire still going super strong

So if the HTC flyer is running an app that is dual core supported, then it will be running at 3ghz, am I right?
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sebastianlow said:
So if the HTC flyer is running an app that is dual core supported, then it will be running at 3ghz, am I right?
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No, it'll be running at 1.5ghz on two cores.

Yea it might be hard to imagine, but o2x is definitely faster even though the clock speed is the same, but it still runs at 1gHz just on 2 processores at the same time.

the 2x is better in all specs

reaper7881 said:
the 2x is better in all specs
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agreed...more cores means it can calculate faster....so apps will run smother on the dual core no matter what even if it was built for single core..think of it this way.cores equal horsepower..

sebastianlow said:
So if the HTC flyer is running an app that is dual core supported, then it will be running at 3ghz, am I right?
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Flyer isn't dual core anyway it runs on the same CPU as the DHD but clocked at 1.5 Ghz

LG 2X is very bad apparently. LG havent taken the advantage of the dual core in the phone and it is quite laggy. It also doesnt have alot of RAM to back up the dual-core cpu

olyloh6696 said:
LG 2X is very bad apparently. LG havent taken the advantage of the dual core in the phone and it is quite laggy. It also doesnt have alot of RAM to back up the dual-core cpu
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Since when exactly did LG become a major cellphone manufacturer capable of making a device on the technological edge
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HTC one x quad core

I had a samsung galaxy s 2 dual core and now i have the htc one x quad core, but i can't see the difference in speed, is it normal ?

out of curiosity: does it lag on live wallpapers? can u try?

It's perfectly normal, and something I've been warning people about for a long time now. SG2 had a dual core 1.5 GHz processor, One X has a quad core 1.5 GHz processor. Having 2 more cores does not mean that the One X is twice as fast, just that it's twice as strong. There's a big difference.
Read all the way through this thread discussing the positive/negatives of dual core vs quad core processors. I spent a lot of time there trying to dispel a lot of the ignorance surrounding the science behind what makes a processor faster/stronger than the next.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557803

HTC One X should be a beast...

galaxys said:
HTC One X should be a beast...
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No, the techno-illiterate keep spreading this myth that more cores equals faster speeds. It's just not true.
It can do more things at once versus a dual core CPU, but if it's at the same Cortex class and clocked to the same speed, it's not going to be any faster.

+1 watch the video of the galaxy nexus vs the one x phone arena did, it is embarrassing how awesome the nexus looks compared to the one x.
Honestly the dual core versions with the s4 are better performers for the reason stated, better cortex and smaller nm. It also means for better battery efficiency.
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sreza said:
It's perfectly normal, and something I've been warning people about for a long time now. SG2 had a dual core 1.5 GHz processor, One X has a quad core 1.5 GHz processor. Having 2 more cores does not mean that the One X is twice as fast, just that it's twice as strong. There's a big difference.
Read all the way through this thread discussing the positive/negatives of dual core vs quad core processors. I spent a lot of time there trying to dispel a lot of the ignorance surrounding the science behind what makes a processor faster/stronger than the next.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557803
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Just to knit pick a tad, the SGS2 (international, ATT, T-Mobile versions) had a 1.2GHz dual core where the Skyrocket variant had the 1.5GHz

Koizuma said:
Just to knit pick a tad, the SGS2 (international, ATT, T-Mobile versions) had a 1.2GHz dual core where the Skyrocket variant had the 1.5GHz
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Ah, I'd assumed OP had the skyrocket, else he might've noticed a slight speed increase.

I don't think the OP has EITHER phone. He's making so many post on which to buy , which means he hasn't got it? He's also saying he has a Sensation and XL... he has that many phones?
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sreza said:
It's perfectly normal, and something I've been warning people about for a long time now. SG2 had a dual core 1.5 GHz processor, One X has a quad core 1.5 GHz processor. Having 2 more cores does not mean that the One X is twice as fast, just that it's twice as strong. There's a big difference.
Read all the way through this thread discussing the positive/negatives of dual core vs quad core processors. I spent a lot of time there trying to dispel a lot of the ignorance surrounding the science behind what makes a processor faster/stronger than the next.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557803
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Much like PCs, the move from single to dual core showed immense promise. However, the move from dual to quad can appear very, very underwhelming.
You really have to have applications that are programmed for the architecture of your processor. Otherwise, the benefit is bragging rights, and even then, who wants to be that guy...

The gs2's touchwiz is just better built software. While not absent lag, it's the least laggy android skin.

I prefer Galaxy S II because it is more powerful in my option.

I never had a HTC phone but i think i'll take a shot some day!

z33dev33l said:
The gs2's touchwiz is just better built software. While not absent lag, it's the least laggy android skin.
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I'm sorry but that's just your opinion, my missus has the s2 and many a times it lags and touchwiz is a horrible skin, I prefer sense 4 anyday. But that's just my opinion.
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imheroldman said:
+1 watch the video of the galaxy nexus vs the one x phone arena did, it is embarrassing how awesome the nexus looks compared to the one x.
Honestly the dual core versions with the s4 are better performers for the reason stated, better cortex and smaller nm. It also means for better battery efficiency.
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Hmmm...the dual core variant kind of looks like **** here when compared to the One X tegra 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR7zfXL_RdA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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nebsif said:
out of curiosity: does it lag on live wallpapers? can u try?
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The lag is due to sence and not the hardware, I'm using nova launcher and live wallpapers are fine.
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treebill said:
The lag is due to sence and not the hardware, I'm using nova launcher and live wallpapers are fine.
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'Sense' spell it right!
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Also, live wallpapers need to be optimized. There can be a 25 core A15 at 5GHz and if the software does not fully support the capabilities of the CPU, it's gonna lag.

htc one x overclock

is this possible right now

Right now no, but possible. I see no reason why you would want to overclock it.
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Faux123 isn't far away from getting it working, follow him on twitter for updates.
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Why? Battery life under load isn't great, and the thing overheats as it is
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bazman70 said:
Why? Battery life under load isn't great, and the thing overheats as it is
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...because it would be awesome?
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i want high antutu benchmarks i dont care if it ovehreats im used to hot phones as it is from the hd2 to the sensation

mox123 said:
i want high antutu benchmarks i dont care if it ovehreats im used to hot phones as it is from the hd2 to the sensation
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Bench marks mean nothing in the real world, also when running 4 cores It's limited to 1.2 GHz, 2 cores 1.4 GHz and 1 core 1.5 GHz
Be a better idea to work out how to remove this limit.
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Meltus said:
...because it would be awesome?
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Agreed. I am also waiting to over clock this thing.

treebill said:
Bench marks mean nothing in the real world, also when running 4 cores It's limited to 1.2 GHz, 2 cores 1.4 GHz and 1 core 1.5 GHz
Be a better idea to work out how to remove this limit.
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That seems to be the T30 version of the Tegra 3. As far as I know, we are using the T33 revision of Tegra 3, and are able to hit 1.5GHz on all cores under load. Might be wrong, but that's what I've read, we're using a new revision of Tegra 3.

i think you would be better off overclocking the gpu since the four cpu`s will be enough to run any game for the foreseeable future. i remember seeing a post saying that the could run the gpu at 600mhz and score 80+fps in the opengl egypt 720p offscreen benchmark. also the asus transformer prime has overclock and at 1.7ghz(reported stable) will hit over 14000 in antutu taking into account the higher res screen.

Nothing new since May????

One X Stock frequencies

A quick search brought up nothing, so what are the stock frequencies on the HOX on 2, 3, and 4 cores?
Let me know and I'll add them to this post so others can benefit from it too
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Anyone?
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from nvidia site:
Max Frequency Up to Single Core 1.5 GHz /Quad-Core 1.4 GHz
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just search for tegra 3

macioh said:
from nvidia site:
just search for tegra 3
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Thanks , but single core? Tegra can't run on single
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^ yes tegra 3 has core-gating along with clock-gating, so basically to save power unused cores can be shut off completely or downclocked. Thats why in single core mode tegra 3 in 1x can go upto 1.5ghz and 1.4ghz in full quad mode when all the four cores are stressed..

how can i limit cpu frequency and core??

hi i want to imited cpu frequency and core
exp: use single cpu core and limit it speed under 1GHZ

Root your phone AND look for set CPU in market ,u can adjust doped as you want but it may affect performance if you go very or very low
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i want to set only single core use and 3other off all the time

x_zarbat said:
i want to set only single core use and 3other off all the time
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well you can do that but it will have a major blow to the phone performance ,the phone would become very laggy or even useless

atrako1973 said:
well you can do that but it will have a major blow to the phone performance ,the phone would become very laggy or even useless
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Actually you can't force it to use only one of the main cores it will always use 2 you can force it to use the power save core but that will make your phone basically unusable.
There is an app called core control made by meltus which let's you turn off cores.
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atrako1973 said:
well you can do that but it will have a major blow to the phone performance ,the phone would become very laggy or even useless
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No it wont, single core is enough for simple tasks, ofc im not talking about gamin or similar stuff
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Out of interest, why would you want to turn off 3 cores permanently?

fore use less power

x_zarbat said:
fore use less power
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Why didn't you get another phone if that's the case?
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feis said:
No it wont, single core is enough for simple tasks, ofc im not talking about gamin or similar stuff
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HTC like all other companies design their software around the hardware,so it was designed with a QUADCORE in mind, gaming or other ,and NO! SIMPLE TASKS WONT RUN SMOOTH BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED TO RUN ON QUADCORE AS WELL!

atrako1973 said:
HTC like all other companies design their software around the hardware,so it was designed with a QUADCORE in mind, gaming or other ,and NO! SIMPLE TASKS WONT RUN SMOOTH BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED TO RUN ON QUADCORE AS WELL!
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Yeah right, but somehow my desire hd with single core @ 1ghz runs sense 4 just fine.. i have disabled 2 cores in my hox and could even play every game i tried without problems. So please educate a bit more before making these statements in capital letters, thanks.
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feis said:
Yeah right, but somehow my desire hd with single core @ 1ghz runs sense 4 just fine.. i have disabled 2 cores in my hox and could even play every game i tried without problems. So please educate a bit more before making these statements in capital letters, thanks.
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That may be the case, but One X is not designed to only run on one core, hence its probably gonna lag.
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Tingelholm said:
That may be the case, but One X is not designed to only run on one core, hence its probably gonna lag.
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I dont think "it isnt designed to" is good argument here. It isnt designed to run cyanogen mod or miui or whatever either, but somehow its doing just fine. It wasnt designed to record videos @ 30fps, but look, now it does, i could go on and on about things it "isnt designed" to do but it does Either way you cant run 1core for now, minimum 2, and as i said earlier im doing it right now and no lags, even games are smooth.
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feis said:
Yeah right, but somehow my desire hd with single core @ 1ghz runs sense 4 just fine.. i have disabled 2 cores in my hox and could even play every game i tried without problems. So please educate a bit more before making these statements in capital letters, thanks.
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Same here. I use two cores for gaming, simple tasks, and it doesn't lag at all. On Dead trigger, I'm getting 30-40 fps on two cores. The battery is much better when using 2 cores than 4 cores.
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VaderSKN said:
Same here. I use two cores for gaming, simple tasks, and it doesn't lag at all. On Dead trigger, I'm getting 30-40 fps on two cores. The battery is much better when using 2 cores than 4 cores.
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Well then you bought a quadcore for nothing then ,you should have gone for a dual core since it works well for you,this phone makers so stupid making quadcore phones , wonder what was HTC thinking when they made the one x with quadcore ,they could have gone for dual core its cheaper
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I've choosen my hox for design, big and beautiful screen, great camera, great software AND it has a quad-core. I never choose a phone by its technical specs alone, so disabling 2 cores is not such a pity in my case.
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feis said:
I dont think "it isnt designed to" is good argument here. It isnt designed to run cyanogen mod or miui or whatever either, but somehow its doing just fine. It wasnt designed to record videos @ 30fps, but look, now it does, i could go on and on about things it "isnt designed" to do but it does Either way you cant run 1core for now, minimum 2, and as i said earlier im doing it right now and no lags, even games are smooth.
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I've been a little behind with recent HOX development but, are you implying that there is a mod available that improves camera recording? Can you point me to it please? As to your reasoning behind the voluntary limiting of CPU frequency I entirely agree.
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Feregorn said:
I've been a little behind with recent HOX development but, are you implying that there is a mod available that improves camera recording? Can you point me to it please? As to your reasoning behind the voluntary limiting of CPU frequency I entirely agree.
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Yes there is, it's in the development section and it removes JPEG compression and increases video bit rate.
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atrako1973 said:
Well then you bought a quadcore for nothing then ,you should have gone for a dual core since it works well for you,this phone makers so stupid making quadcore phones , wonder what was HTC thinking when they made the one x with quadcore ,they could have gone for dual core its cheaper
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I didnt buy hox just because its quad core, if u did, thats funny. And just because i turned off 2 cores now, doesnt mean i cant turn 2 back on when i need the power boost. It litterally takes 5 seconds. Answering to other queation, yes, there is such mod in development section, sense only though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28592636
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