Hello everyone
I am sorry if I am posting in a wrong section, but I just wanted to write up my experience in case it helps someone.
Let me first say what a wonderful forum this is. I have used it a lot and it has helped me solve android issues always.
I have a htc desire and a few days ago it fell from my shirt pocket, straight in a bucket which had dirty water in it. I immediately took it out and removed the battery straight away. I let it dry for couple of hours and when I turned it on again, the booting took forever. When it finally booted, it froze at the lock screen and was saying "connect your charger" also the touchscreen was non responsive. For the next two days I was like a madman all over the forums trying to find a solution. I thought that if I used the RUU I would bring it back to stock and everything would be fine. I installed the RUU. I installed fine both from the pc and from a goldcard, but it was the same " stuck at lockscreen and non responsive". I tried everything I could come across the forums, but since my phone was S-ON, there wasn't much to do. I then installed the gingerbread RUU update ..that too installed fine...but again same situation. I was hopeless, I then knew it was a hardware problem, not software. Then I decided, what the heck, its broken, so I might as well try the last thing and disassemble the phone and see what parts I could change. After I took it apart, I saw in couple of places a sort of greenish stuff around the touchscreen connector and around that place since only one indicator was showing water damage, that is, the one close to the connector and close to the bottom of the back of the phone. So I took come cotton and 70% alcohol and cleaned all that greenish stuff away. I left it dry couple of minutes and assembled the phone. when I turned it on ....SURPRISE :laugh: it was working perfect.
So if someone finds themselves in a similar situation, consider this like a last option, and you might get lucky like I did.
I hope no one ever needs to read this thread, but if you do , I hope it helps. thanks
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Hey everyone,
I had a bit of a spill with some orange juice the other day right onto my phone.
I pulled it apart straight away and left it overnight to dry out and recover.
When i put it together in the morning it turned on fine and was working fine. I was running it as a wifi hotspot, and running some app updates and it started running like crap. really slow and unresponsive, then the touchscreen stopped working so i pulled the battery and tried to turn it back on.
It then started to not boot. It would show the splash screen and that is all. occasionally it would boot up (after a lot of waiting/pulling battery/trying again) but the touch wouldn't work and it would say it was nearly out of battery (pic of battery with cross through it)
When i boot into HBOOT (vol- and power) it shows TOUCH PANEL-fail which is obviously not good.
After a lot of stuffing around i decided to get a new touch panel... so i did.
It arrived today and i installed it no problems then the phone started just fine. I set up all my stuff again (google accounts, apps ect. cause as part of my fiddling i had wiped the phone) and it was working like a charm. no problems at all, untill i was on a phone call, about 5 minutes in it just went blank.
I pulled the battery and tried to start again and had the same problem as with the orig touch screen!!!
Again in HBOOT, and again have TOUCH PANEL-fail... WTF?!?!?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
BACKGROUND info:
HTC Desire 8183 - telstra branded
stock telstra 2.1 rom
never rooted.
HBOOT-0.93.0001
RADIO-5.11.05.14
Needs to go for repair. Seems like the motherboard.
Sent from CM7
Well i pulled the sucker apart again, and just scratched around some terminals and whatnot and gave it a good blow out, stuck it back together and it worked again.
Got the missus to play angry birds on it on the way home and it died just at home (like 30 mins of angry birds)... then about 3 hours later i gave it another go... and now it is working again!
If it stops again i think i'll pull it apart and clean all the terminals and boards a little more, cause it seemed to really help.
Buggared,,,,,
Liquid on a mainborad, rarely seems to be fixed by "drying and etching".
Save your time and aggrevation... new phone.
OJ.... should have counteracted with baking soda... But you could dip it in this solution...... Then dry in a bowl full of rice....
Seriously, get a new phone. Or, you could have hornets and bees congregating around it in the future...
i am tempted by the idea of a new phone... but i think i would want to wait for the SE arc... problem is i need a 850/2100 version for the network i'm on.
Yeah, I know... Had a guy the other day, same situation. Saltwater from a wave.
OJ being a citric acid, and saltwater, being corrosive...
Do the math.
Hate to say it, but you'd been better off with milk...
A lot of phones are on discount nowdays, like the Desire... EDIT; Quad band, covers all the networks.
yeah i know... sadly Milk doesn't work as well with Vodka as Orange Juice does
At least you have humor....
You did a grand job of attempting to revive the life.
I can only suggest an alcohol bath... And not the drinkable kind.
And a good drying in "rice" for a couple days.
Please, no comments about the rice.
Well its still working, so happy days for now.
Still going strong now... maybe i have lucked out and fixed it?
you need repair
salahfathi said:
you need repair
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Well apparently i dont... it is still working.
So I was shopping for pants today, but I forgot I had my Desire in my pocket (front right one, if you want to know).
So, my phone fell on the ground and the battery and the cover flew off.
I quickly bought my pants and rushed out to see the damage...
IT WAS HORRIBLE!
The thing didn't want to boot, all it did was flash the red and green LED...
I (somehow) managed to get into bootloader to see the damage...
That was ALSO HORRIBLE!
The recovery kept restarting (4EXT, the loading screen that says 'preparing boot') and all I could do was take out the battery...
Thank god, Fastboot worked, so as soon as I came home I started running the RUU (from fastboot)...
Again, HORRIBLE!
when the RUU said the phone was gonna reboot into bootloader, it DIDN'T - the LEDs just kept flashing!
So I pressed power+vol- and that did the trick, but after the RUU finished ... again, flashy LEDs...
So, is this a software or hardware issue, and how to fix it (other than going to a guy and pay him to do it, which I'll do anyway if you people (god, no!) don't know the answer...)
I think I'll go to Fastboot next and clear all storage...
EDIT: Held the power button for a few secs, and the HTC boot logo shows up...
EDIT2: THE BOOTANIMATION!!! FINALLY!!!
Still, I'd like to know what the issue was, since it seems like it'll work normally from here on...?
Seems like all I've damaged are the LEDs and the camera Flash (the camera says it's too cold to use flash...)
I'll heat up the battery and report again
P.S.
Sorry for the double post... My PC is laggy today...
EDIT: Can't boot into 4EXT, no matter what... I tried CWM and it worked fine, but 4EXT won't...
And just today, I bought a new SDcard so I'd have more space and speed so I could partition it...
EDIT2: Also, the battery doesn't want to fill up... The second I take the charger out, it shuts down... Looks like I'm in need of a new battery... (curse my pants' pockets for being so big!)
It won't be bad to disassemble your phone and see if some connector disconnected.
How do I do that...? Is there like a hardware manual somewhere...? Because I'll need to know what screwdrivers I have to buy (I'm all out anyways...)
Yeah, it's probably the connector, since I can hear something shaking when I shake the phone (or it's something broken... hope it's the first thing)
Otherwise, there's a little power button glitch when turning the thing on... The LEDs flash and I can only boot if I hold the vol- button (can't do anything, not even bootloader!)
P.S.
I was just waiting when you'd reply (oh, Great one!)
Youtube is a miracle...
You'll need TORX screewdriver (star shape 6 angles), a small one.
Took my phone apart, saw the drivers I need... Just gotta wait till morning so BauHaus opens up...
I saw the tut on how to replace the screen, so that will help... Other solutions WILL be YouTube, since I don't understand anything from those pictures (but the text part of the guide is great)
I found another glitch: The LEDs flash if charging even if the battery is 60 meters away... I don't believe that's a sign of a disconnected connector... Hope it is
EDIT: Installed SetCPU, and my battery has been at 0% for the last 12 hours (without charging)... And the phone works... It just won't turn on sometimes...
Picking up those screwdrivers at about 6 pm
Just one question:
Is it possible for a connector to break? And if so, if one is broken in my phone, is it possible to replace it...? (haven't gotten the screwdrivers yet...)
If not, do I have to replace the whole cable, whole motherboard or only the component of the connector...? Or even the whole phone...?
I just popped it open... Now what? I disconnected and connected every single connector, reassembled it and the LEDs still glitch... And the phone won't go beyond the boot logo...
Could it be the battery? I saw a new scratch today, could I've damaged the battery and that is what's wrong...?
EDIT: Disassembled it again, looking for anything unusual (note that I don't have a single clue about what I'm looking for...)
Looks like I'm leaving the Android phone world... for the next 4-6 years... :'( Good old Nokia, I'm glad I didn't throw you away...
And it appears I'm yet again talking to myself...
Anyways, I'm taking the phone to a check to a repair shop, so I'll know what's wrong...
EDIT: The guy in the shop said a check is free, so I'm just gonna chill and play Minecraft for the next few days until he calls
Meh... The guy at the store checked it (FINALLY!) and he said the motherboard was dead...
And that costs 200€ to repair...
Anyways, I went to another shop and got me an Xperia S...
Goodbye, developer phone
wow 200 for mobo, u could get a good second hand desire that aint pvt1 for 100 lol. ah well hope u get better luck with ur new phone
Sent from my HTC Desire
I bought my Desire a few months ago, in June, for 120€ (PVT3). It was used, but it was the only used Desire in town... (seriously, I was the only person with a HTC Desire in my town (with 200k people!))
Ah well...
Guess I'll be the only owner of a Xperia S in 4 years
Hey guys i need some help please.
I opened my phone up a few weeks ago to blow out some dust that got in behind the screen. But when I put it all back together again. The phone wouldn't boot, but somehow i got it going again. But since then, whilst using the phone the screen will randomly stop responding and then the phone itself will just crash,
Now, when I go to reboot (I have to take battery out and back in) HTC spalshscreen comes on then the screen just slowly goes off within 15 secs (my splash screen is usually on for about 20 secs and the miui splash comes on straight after when working).
I have to keep rebooting until the phone comes on and then it would work fine for 1-2 days before it plays up again.
If trawled through similar problem but still can find an answer. Please help me out guys, I need to get my phone working again as I can't afford a new one as good as this.
If it helps I have been running on miui xj for about 8 months
Many thanks in advance
Hi i read the other day in the desire s threads and when u took the lcd screen off the digitizer (front of the phone) did u damage the tape glue around the edge that holds them both together? Because if u damage it even the slightest bit it and theres the tiniest gap, it will cause the screen to not work properly and give faulse/positive touchs and the phone to not work correct. Maybe this is not ur problem but i thought id say.
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Hi i read the other day in the desire s threads and when u took the lcd screen off the digitizer (front of the phone) did u damage the tape glue around the edge that holds them both together? Because if u damage it even the slightest bit it and theres the tiniest gap, it will cause the screen to not work properly and give faulse/positive touchs and the phone to not work correct. Maybe this is not ur problem but i thought id say.
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Well you theory does make sense, I didn't actually take the digitizer out but I did notice looking through the screen that theres a little gap there thats allowing all the dust to get in there. I have reinstalled ROMs a couple of times now but its still hit and miss. So you could be very right as I don't know what else the problem can be.
Thanks for the response cos I never would have thought of that. I'm gonna strip it properly now and hope to fix it :good:
Nope im still having problems. I reinstall the the rom and itll be ok for a few weeks maybe then itll go on the blink again.
Im starting to wonder if there an issue with the software somewhere. But ive been using this rom for ages and not had a problem with it untill now
Hi, my apologies if my HTC is in the wrong forum, not sure where the Desire would fit, if anywhere.
Nonetheless this is a useful phone to me and worked fine till the day I had to jump in a lake to save my 5 year old boy from drowning. Naturally didn't have the time to remove the phone from my pocket before jumping in the lake. Kid was fine after swallowing some water but phone "swallowed" a lot of water. Let it dry in a bag of rice and baking soda for several days to fully dry. But when trying to turn it on, the screen just flickers non stop. However when connecting it to the computer using a USB cable, I get what appears to be a boot screen (see pic in address below). Phone was rooted and run CyanogenMod 7. Maybe someone that's familiar with the procedure could guide me? Tried a couple of the options shown but to no avail. Old but still decent phone, would like to get it working again. I've transferred the sim to another phone and I've saved the micro SD card. Just need to get the phone to boot again. PS: could the battery be toast? Maybe it got shorted when I first tried to turn the phone on while still wet?
Any help is appreciated.
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I'd say leave it to dry naturally for a week or so and try again. If no joy then you could try a new screen but it's probably something really tiny and sensitive that cannot be replaced..
Glad you saved your boy!.
Sent from a stolen HTC M9
It's been 2 months. But I did make a crucial mistake: I tried to turn the phone on while still at the lake. This likely caused more damage than it needed.
However I suspect the issue is with the battery. It won't charge past 3.85 volts. And the display works just fine, once I press the key combo to enter the boot screen as seen in the pic above. Will try and track one down locally, hopefully a shop will be able to test it a battery in the phone before I buy it.
And yes, the boy was fine. But it was a close call. it is amazing how quickly something can go wrong. I neglected the lake rule of staying within arm's reach. Let this be a lesson to anyone with small ones: it only takes seconds for things to go badly wrong, even at a supposedly safe, man made lake intended for kids.
PS: 2 months prior an adult died on the same lake after falling off his boat. Another lesson: invest in swimming lessons. Scary stuff, indeed.
Right, i thought you were seeing that over usb via sdk or something.. You could always try opening it and inspecting for blown components. What damage can be done.. It's already useless.
I still think it's worth leaving it to dry naturally.
Sent from a stolen HTC M9
Hi and thank you for checking my thread
I have a problem with my G3 as described in the tittle, I did the Paper trick I saw on YouTube but sadly it didn't work
After a while I found out that placing a piece cut from Credit card under the CPU might work and I did , but one week later I had the same problem, likely I can just click sleep button and it returns to normal
After these many problems I decided to give up on it and sell it, but I need a permanent Fix so I don't get involved in Cheating
Also , does replacing motherboard will fix the issue ?
Does G4 Worth it now ? I know about bootloop problem
Probably is a bad motherboard
When my G3 finally died (digitizer went bad), I just replaced it with a used G4 for $150. That was like 6 months ago. The phone has been phenomenal. I know there is many who say that every G4 will bootloop eventually, but I really don't see how thats possible if you just browse google for the issue. Yeah, a lot of people had the problem, but if everyone did you wouldn't see the G4 still being sold at a ton of outlets, and you would see hundreds of links to the issue. I think there was a large batch of them that were bad... and they got past QC, but the vast majority of them are probably fine.
resinis said:
Probably is a bad motherboard
When my G3 finally died (digitizer went bad), I just replaced it with a used G4 for $150. That was like 6 months ago. The phone has been phenomenal. I know there is many who say that every G4 will bootloop eventually, but I really don't see how thats possible if you just browse google for the issue. Yeah, a lot of people had the problem, but if everyone did you wouldn't see the G4 still being sold at a ton of outlets, and you would see hundreds of links to the issue. I think there was a large batch of them that were bad... and they got past QC, but the vast majority of them are probably fine.
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Replacing the Motherboard will fix the issue ?
Yea, i saw "1 month/year after" Reviews on youtube and no one montion the bootloop issue, people ask them in comments and they reply that the phone works normal with no issues
Thank you for replying dude appreciate it
I was skeptical at first, but by baking the motherboard in the oven did the trick for me. It has been a couple of hours now an no flickering, no black screen and no troubles. And i know i'm asking for Murphy to come and bite my as*, but as a little trick, i'd like to suggest before putting the mobo in the oven to try something: i have an old Akasa X4 cpu cooler which has metal fins which are removable. I took one of those things and cut a square a little bit smaller than the power IC to the right of the SoC and then cut another one the exact same size then stacked the two one on top of each other, making sure to not short any capacitor around the IC and then put the metal shield back, making sure to put pressure on the IC. Then preheated the oven at roughly 180 degrees celsius, then put the motherboard SoC face up into the preheated oven on three balls of aluminium foil, one at the bottom near the micro usb, and the others to balance the motherboard, like a BMW Isetta, and put the timer for 10 minutes. After these nervous 10 minutes, I took out the mobo and let it to cool at room temperature for ~30 minutes. And voila, now it works. I do hope that it is going to last, and i will be very careful with this phone, unlike the previous owner. Seriously, how can you put a freaking button (small one, from a shirt) between the SoC and the mid-frame? Crazy. And that's why i got it for ~8000 JPY (about 70 bucks).
Takadi said:
Hi and thank you for checking my thread
I have a problem with my G3 as described in the tittle, I did the Paper trick I saw on YouTube but sadly it didn't work
After a while I found out that placing a piece cut from Credit card under the CPU might work and I did , but one week later I had the same problem, likely I can just click sleep button and it returns to normal
After these many problems I decided to give up on it and sell it, but I need a permanent Fix so I don't get involved in Cheating
Also , does replacing motherboard will fix the issue ?
Does G4 Worth it now ? I know about bootloop problem
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I had a similar problem for about two months. I tried the paper thing over the camera sensor and I felt like it helped some but the problem still continued. The screen would just slowly go dark with vertical lines running through it. All apps would still work in the background while this was happening. I could boot to TWRP and this problem never happened while in TWRP which was odd. Seemed like if it was a screen issues or hardware malfunction it would happen all the time. That's when I decided to just flash back to stock. I was thinking about getting the S8 anyways so what the hell. I flashed to stock 10B and took every single OTA. Took all night but I've been running stock for over a day now and the issue has not replicated itself one time since reverting back to stock. I was on RR Nougat and Fulmics when it happened prior. Has to be a root or Rom issue?
Pozman1 said:
I had a similar problem for about two months. I tried the paper thing over the camera sensor and I felt like it helped some but the problem still continued. The screen would just slowly go dark with vertical lines running through it. All apps would still work in the background while this was happening. I could boot to TWRP and this problem never happened while in TWRP which was odd. Seemed like if it was a screen issues or hardware malfunction it would happen all the time. That's when I decided to just flash back to stock. I was thinking about getting the S8 anyways so what the hell. I flashed to stock 10B and took every single OTA. Took all night but I've been running stock for over a day now and the issue has not replicated itself one time since reverting back to stock. I was on RR Nougat and Fulmics when it happened prior. Has to be a root or Rom issue?
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Just wondering if your G3 is still functioning without the issue.
It really feels like a hardware issue but as you pointed out it didn't happen in TWRP... but like many, I encounter the issue when the phone gets a bit warm (>35C), so maybe TWRP and your stock android is not as hot as RR Nougat? Then again, I'm on MM when this happened...
Update: Actually the flicker n fade happened to me in TWRP while I was backing up. The temperature read about 60C.
I had bigger problems with my g3 and they started as follows
Problem 1. camera not being detected and crashing. 2. Reboot once a while which got worse over time. 3. Bluetooth sketchy and WiFi not connecting. 4. Sd card being ejected and mounted constantly. 5. Mobile data stopped working.
Solution: baked it in the oven 10min with cpu side up at 185c removed to cool 4 30min. Problems gone for the meantime.
This morning at work my D852 died with the exact same screen fades to black and would only stay on for at most like 10 seconds and would only come on again after the processor cooled enough. I came across this youtube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF1s4RCZAvc
Since I didn't have any copper foil tape, I substituted with Aluminum foil tape and placed the tape in the same places as detailed in the video. (copper works better than aluminum for heat dispersal)
My phone is now back to normal and hasn't shown any issues with the past 5 hours since I applied the fix.
UPDATE: My phone has worked perfectly for several days now until I turned on the GPS from Cell Tower to High Accuracy and it immediately started to die again. Once it cooled down I was able to get to the settings screen to turn off GPS and it went back to functioning like normal
How to fix
I tried the paper trick and it did not work. No need to replace the motherboard or the phone. The issue is just a bad connection between the motherboard to the LCD display.. Probably due to dirt (in my case, I found that quite a few places in my motherboard had corrosion buildup). Here is the fix...
1. Remove battery cover and Unscrew The back plastic from the base of the phone to get to the motherboard.
2. Disconnect all the connectors from the motherboard.
3. Scan the motherboard for anything unusual. (My motherboard had corrosion on several different places).
5. Clean any dirt or corrosion with lint-free cloth. (I didn't have one so I had to use a Q-tip).
*if needed, Dip the cloth in rubbing alcohol to assist in cleaning. make sure that the cloth is JUST BARELY Damp and not dripping, otherwise you will risk water-damaging the phone. If you use rubbing alcohol, make sure that you dry the spot right after you wipe it.
6. Once you have cleaned the motherboard, check the base of the phone and clean any dirt from here also.
7. Replace the motherboard, re-connect the connections, screw on the back, and put the battery cover back on.
Viola! Mine has been working like new for 4 days so far with no issues...
Takadi said:
Hi and thank you for checking my thread
I have a problem with my G3 as described in the tittle, I did the Paper trick I saw on YouTube but sadly it didn't work
After a while I found out that placing a piece cut from Credit card under the CPU might work and I did , but one week later I had the same problem, likely I can just click sleep button and it returns to normal
After these many problems I decided to give up on it and sell it, but I need a permanent Fix so I don't get involved in Cheating
Also , does replacing motherboard will fix the issue ?
Does G4 Worth it now ? I know about bootloop problem
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So a permanent fix is a new motherboard or a new screen?