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Samsung announces quad-core exynos for "next Galaxy"

http://techc0re.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/samsung-announces-exynos-4-quad-processor/
Hopefully this supports LTE and makes it into the Sprint version!

That sounds FREAKIN' sweet!!
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I love how it said it is great at handling intensive applications like 3D games and video editing. How many consumers will be editing any type of video on their phones? I'm all for faster phones as much as the next guy, but is it really necessary? Although I think it would be sweet to have some apps to control video editing software on my computer. Just my 2¢
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Quad core a9 with an overclocked Mali 400 is all pretty old tech by now. I'll be waiting for the Nexus with Jelly Bean around Christmas, hopefully it'll be a15 powered.
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Doubt it
The nexus series has mostly been dated or weaker hardware
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Doubt it
The nexus series has mostly been dated or weaker hardware
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I'm thinking the same thing which is why this announcement is a letdown to me.. the SIII isn't much of an upgrade and the Nexus probably won't be either unless they make the switch to A15

Pheno.menon said:
Quad core a9 with an overclocked Mali 400 is all pretty old tech by now. I'll be waiting for the Nexus with Jelly Bean around Christmas, hopefully it'll be a15 powered.
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How is that old technology. I would say its cutting edge. There is only one phone out that uses a quad core and its a Tegra 3 not a Exynos. Exynos is supposed to be way more powerful. Also since Nvidia and qualcomm had a falling out ( from my understanding ) its not even available in the US. Quad core with 20% lower power consumption, bigger HD screen and 12 mp camera alone makes me want it bad.

Im super excited for this! I dont think the next nexus will be all that to be honest. The Nexus has never really stood for groundbreaking technology and if Sammy makes it your probably looking at the chip that will be in it lol. The benchmarks on the S3 look amazing thoughleaps and bounds better than anything out their currently. And we still dont know the GPU yet. I think so far its pretty much demolished my chance at getting the evo 4g lte. Unless they do something crazy like throw an S4 in the Sprint version.
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dhoshman said:
Im super excited for this! I dont think the next nexus will be all that to be honest. The Nexus has never really stood for groundbreaking technology and if Sammy makes it your probably looking at the chip that will be in it lol. The benchmarks on the S3 look amazing thoughleaps and bounds better than anything out their currently. And we still dont know the GPU yet. I think so far its pretty much demolished my chance at getting the evo 4g lte. Unless they do something crazy like throw an S4 in the Sprint version.
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I could be totally wrong but I would think that the Evo 4g late would have the S4. I don't know much about the s4 but it must be pretty good because your like the 6th person I've seen praising it.
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I really dont get why people are complaining. I cant wait!!!

All I can say is that they better drop something soon to pre grab those otherwise Christmas waiters... Or else people will flock to the phones that use the Intel chips.
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Still waiting to see the GPU...
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I really dont get why people are complaining. I cant wait!!!
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Because an A9 chip doesn't mean crap, it's old tech. And the Mali400 was already old with the S2 came out, why the heck are they using it again. It's not going to perform much differently than this phone aside from some big HD games, the only difference youre looking at is probably some sharper pictures and a nicer screen.

Well, it comes down to this....
Samsung quad core(older technology doubled)(like a nice 1988 Iroc Z28)
HTC dual core(new tech)(like a finely tuned Audi A3 turbo)
Motorola Tegra 3(a new Mustang....not a cobra)
Where is the Ferrari?(Quad Core Krait)
I am on the fence. I bet HTC drains slower. Motorola might have one huge battery(3300). Samsung has a better screen and pictures.
What are you guys thinking?

kc_exactly said:
Well, it comes down to this....
Samsung quad core(older technology doubled)(like a nice 1988 Iroc Z28)
HTC dual core(new tech)(like a finely tuned Audi A3 turbo)
Motorola Tegra 3(a new Mustang....not a cobra)
Where is the Ferrari?(Quad Core Krait)
I am on the fence. I bet HTC drains slower. Motorola might have one huge battery(3300). Samsung has a better screen and pictures.
What are you guys thinking?
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I am thinking I am stuck at the exact same place you are right now! Lol. In the past, one device always stuck out and I knew I would get it way ahead of time. I am undecided right now
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Okay, which is it???? Quad or Dual Core?
Galaxy S3 Dual Core:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/25/antutu-purportedly-reveals-galaxy-s-iii-specs/
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-dual-core-snapdragon-s4-us-79146/
Or Quad Core:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-processor-exynos-4-quad-core-79262/
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...als-the-galaxy-s3-quad-core-processor-1077741
Further reading has confirmed my speculations. Sounds like we won't get the quad core in the USA. We will be getting a qualcomm chip. Maybe the same chip in the HTC EVO LTE.

Same here. There was always one phone I really wanted... like the E4GT. But since I don't upgrade for months, I'll stick it out for the next Nexus device, at least to see what it is or isn't

How long before this entry:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/26/orange-santa-clara-intel-medfield/
starts accelerating in advancements that others have a hard time comparing to?

kc_exactly said:
Okay, which is it???? Quad or Dual Core?
Galaxy S3 Dual Core:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/25/antutu-purportedly-reveals-galaxy-s-iii-specs/
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-dual-core-snapdragon-s4-us-79146/
Or Quad Core:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-processor-exynos-4-quad-core-79262/
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...als-the-galaxy-s3-quad-core-processor-1077741
Further reading has confirmed my speculations. Sounds like we won't get the quad core in the USA. We will be getting a qualcomm chip. Maybe the same chip in the HTC EVO LTE.
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According to Android Central, we'll be getting the dual core S4 A-15 chip because of LTE.
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blackroseMD1 said:
According to Android Central, we'll be getting the dual core S4 A-15 chip because of LTE.
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So is the s4 faster than the exynos? I was really hoping for exynos with lte . I know i read somewhere they had exynos with lte..
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HTC one x quad core

I had a samsung galaxy s 2 dual core and now i have the htc one x quad core, but i can't see the difference in speed, is it normal ?

out of curiosity: does it lag on live wallpapers? can u try?

It's perfectly normal, and something I've been warning people about for a long time now. SG2 had a dual core 1.5 GHz processor, One X has a quad core 1.5 GHz processor. Having 2 more cores does not mean that the One X is twice as fast, just that it's twice as strong. There's a big difference.
Read all the way through this thread discussing the positive/negatives of dual core vs quad core processors. I spent a lot of time there trying to dispel a lot of the ignorance surrounding the science behind what makes a processor faster/stronger than the next.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557803

HTC One X should be a beast...

galaxys said:
HTC One X should be a beast...
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No, the techno-illiterate keep spreading this myth that more cores equals faster speeds. It's just not true.
It can do more things at once versus a dual core CPU, but if it's at the same Cortex class and clocked to the same speed, it's not going to be any faster.

+1 watch the video of the galaxy nexus vs the one x phone arena did, it is embarrassing how awesome the nexus looks compared to the one x.
Honestly the dual core versions with the s4 are better performers for the reason stated, better cortex and smaller nm. It also means for better battery efficiency.
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sreza said:
It's perfectly normal, and something I've been warning people about for a long time now. SG2 had a dual core 1.5 GHz processor, One X has a quad core 1.5 GHz processor. Having 2 more cores does not mean that the One X is twice as fast, just that it's twice as strong. There's a big difference.
Read all the way through this thread discussing the positive/negatives of dual core vs quad core processors. I spent a lot of time there trying to dispel a lot of the ignorance surrounding the science behind what makes a processor faster/stronger than the next.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557803
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Just to knit pick a tad, the SGS2 (international, ATT, T-Mobile versions) had a 1.2GHz dual core where the Skyrocket variant had the 1.5GHz

Koizuma said:
Just to knit pick a tad, the SGS2 (international, ATT, T-Mobile versions) had a 1.2GHz dual core where the Skyrocket variant had the 1.5GHz
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Ah, I'd assumed OP had the skyrocket, else he might've noticed a slight speed increase.

I don't think the OP has EITHER phone. He's making so many post on which to buy , which means he hasn't got it? He's also saying he has a Sensation and XL... he has that many phones?
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sreza said:
It's perfectly normal, and something I've been warning people about for a long time now. SG2 had a dual core 1.5 GHz processor, One X has a quad core 1.5 GHz processor. Having 2 more cores does not mean that the One X is twice as fast, just that it's twice as strong. There's a big difference.
Read all the way through this thread discussing the positive/negatives of dual core vs quad core processors. I spent a lot of time there trying to dispel a lot of the ignorance surrounding the science behind what makes a processor faster/stronger than the next.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557803
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Much like PCs, the move from single to dual core showed immense promise. However, the move from dual to quad can appear very, very underwhelming.
You really have to have applications that are programmed for the architecture of your processor. Otherwise, the benefit is bragging rights, and even then, who wants to be that guy...

The gs2's touchwiz is just better built software. While not absent lag, it's the least laggy android skin.

I prefer Galaxy S II because it is more powerful in my option.

I never had a HTC phone but i think i'll take a shot some day!

z33dev33l said:
The gs2's touchwiz is just better built software. While not absent lag, it's the least laggy android skin.
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I'm sorry but that's just your opinion, my missus has the s2 and many a times it lags and touchwiz is a horrible skin, I prefer sense 4 anyday. But that's just my opinion.
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imheroldman said:
+1 watch the video of the galaxy nexus vs the one x phone arena did, it is embarrassing how awesome the nexus looks compared to the one x.
Honestly the dual core versions with the s4 are better performers for the reason stated, better cortex and smaller nm. It also means for better battery efficiency.
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Hmmm...the dual core variant kind of looks like **** here when compared to the One X tegra 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR7zfXL_RdA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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nebsif said:
out of curiosity: does it lag on live wallpapers? can u try?
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The lag is due to sence and not the hardware, I'm using nova launcher and live wallpapers are fine.
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treebill said:
The lag is due to sence and not the hardware, I'm using nova launcher and live wallpapers are fine.
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'Sense' spell it right!
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Also, live wallpapers need to be optimized. There can be a 25 core A15 at 5GHz and if the software does not fully support the capabilities of the CPU, it's gonna lag.

GSS3 or GNexus

Hey guys. I bet you have heard this question a million times, but I am looking at purchasing a new phone. I currently have a Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.1.1 which I'm going to give my girlfriend...
I am debating on buying another Galaxy Nexus (which is AU$429 brand new) or a Quad-Core SGS3 (which I found for AU$633 for 16GB model, brand new)
I know it comes down to pure Android vs Touchwiz and Dual Core vs Quad Core. As far as I can see, there is no real need for a quad core phone just yet.. unless someone can point out why a quad core phone is better?
If money was no object.. which phone would you choose and why?
I plan on purchasing one tomorrow. Please help me decide.
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Simmo3D said:
Hey guys. I bet you have heard this question a million times, but I am looking at purchasing a new phone. I currently have a Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.1.1 which I'm going to give my girlfriend...
I am debating on buying another Galaxy Nexus (which is AU$429 brand new) or a Quad-Core SGS3 (which I found for AU$633 for 16GB model, brand new)
I know it comes down to pure Android vs Touchwiz and Dual Core vs Quad Core. As far as I can see, there is no real need for a quad core phone just yet.. unless someone can point out why a quad core phone is better?
If money was no object.. which phone would you choose and why?
I plan on purchasing one tomorrow. Please help me decide.
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Gnex....sgs3 will give you more of a hassle when rooting....and pure Google is better.
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Deep down, you already know the answer.

I'd take SG3, better hardware.
My HOX is better IMO though, I love the new LCD2.
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theking_13 said:
I'd take SG3, better hardware.
My HOX is better IMO though, I love the new LCD2.
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Simmo3D said:
Hey guys. I bet you have heard this question a million times, but I am looking at purchasing a new phone. I currently have a Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.1.1 which I'm going to give my girlfriend...
I am debating on buying another Galaxy Nexus (which is AU$429 brand new) or a Quad-Core SGS3 (which I found for AU$633 for 16GB model, brand new)
I know it comes down to pure Android vs Touchwiz and Dual Core vs Quad Core. As far as I can see, there is no real need for a quad core phone just yet.. unless someone can point out why a quad core phone is better?
If money was no object.. which phone would you choose and why?
I plan on purchasing one tomorrow. Please help me decide.
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I also recently had to choose between the HTC One X, SGS3 and Galaxy Nexus, when I heard about Jellybean I chose the Nexus. I tried both and I personally prefer the pure android interface over HTC Sense (which IMO is way better than TouchWiz), also the Jelly Bean update makes it feel quicker than (or a quick as) the One X/SGS3
The downfall of choosing the Galaxy Nexus is that a number of high end HD games on the Play Store require a quad core processor (specifically Tegra 3), however I rarely seriously game on my phone other than playing the occasional Angry Birds-esque games, which run just fine.
Also, the SGS3 has a MicroSD slot meaning memory is not limited, and there is also a 64GB version (according to http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-4238.php).
The only place where a quad core processor offers more than a dual core is in benchmarks and gaming. Make your choice according to what is more important for you.
I chose the Galaxy Nexus over the HTC One X/SGS3
EDIT: The SGS3 also has a better camera and bigger screen (same technology though, but it has less DPI)

GNex is great. SgsIII is crap. Have fun.
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Gotta say I love the Gnex and having Jellybean the day after I/O was awesome! Bet that won't happen on an S3
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I am curious about the performance of E4gT vs sgh-i957

Ok, I have been given a sgh-i957 Galaxy Tab 8.9 LTE on AT&T for work and it's Nvidia Tegra 2 or Qualcomm Snapdragon Dual-core at 1.5 GHz with Honeycomb and TouchWiz is ungodly laggy and slow. First off, I know I am comparing a tablet to a phone but I am curious how the S4gT with current release and its 1.2 GHz Samsung Exynos C210 dual-core compares. I am very worried it is just the in-efficiency of Android and I am wondering if I should wait for a quad core phone like the LG Optimus G. Or if the versions of the Operating Systems are to blame. I know most of us here have customized one way or another but I am hoping someone can remember how it was before they made their device awesome. The Wimax vs. LTE issue doesn't bother me because even though Sprint swears they have LTE here in Houston a lot of people are reporting their LTE phone's are on 3g more. This will help me determine if I sign a contract today for a new phone or wait until the LG Optimus G comes out. On a side note I can do nothing custom to the work supplied tablet, LOL.

The Exynos SoC in the S2's is very fast and the Mali graphics are generally equal to that in the USA S3's. This phone shows little to no lag in any situation that I've found.
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This phone destroys the competition... until recently.
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Mattix724 said:
This phone destroys the competition... until recently.
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lol, how?

This phone is just super fast, smooth, and out performs almost every other phone on the market.
The Exynos chip is just awesome.
Only the newest phones can out perform this phone. In my opinion this is better than the Galaxy Tab, better then every other S2 variant, better than the iPhone 4S...
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I myself haven't experienced the ungodly lag you speak of sir, and I usually go back to stock every once in a while. You could wait, LG has made some awesome improvements to their devices to actually call them smartphones. I lover this phone but I am going nexus myself but that's just me

Mattix724 said:
This phone is just super fast, smooth, and out performs almost every other phone on the market.
The Exynos chip is just awesome.
Only the newest phones can out perform this phone. In my opinion this is better than the Galaxy Tab, better then every other S2 variant, better than the iPhone 4S...
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The OG i9100 and the i777 might have a word with you as they also have the same chip set as us but also includes NFC. But typically it's pretty much acknowledged that the GS2 roflstomped all the competition last year upon its release in terms of raw power. Other manufacturers came close to it though with 720p displays and sped up S3 soc's.
The reign of the GS2 only truly ended upon the release of the HTC 1x with it's S4 / Tegra 3 which was last april. So in essence. The S2 ruled the landscape for almost a year and was in a completely different class of performance. The Tegra 2 / S3 were far behind the 4210.

asd87 said:
I myself haven't experienced the ungodly lag you speak of sir, and I usually go back to stock every once in a while. You could wait, LG has made some awesome improvements to their devices to actually call them smartphones. I lover this phone but I am going nexus myself but that's just me
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The lag is on my tablet, I am asking if the phone has the same problem, Sorry if there was any confusion.

Yeah I guess the I777 and I9100 both have the Exynos chip also...
I'll change what I said to include those devices.
Any Galaxy S II that comes with the Exynos CPU is a beast and there was no competition until the international S3 and the OX was released.
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Thanks guys, you have been really helpful.

How would you compare the Galaxy Nexus to the Epic 4g Touch performance wise? It looks like the price for the upgrade is 49.96 not .96 cents and I can get the Galaxy Nexus for the same price so I was just curious.

I would say the Epic 4G Touch is better specs wise, but the Galaxy Nexus is better software wise.
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How would you compare the camera on the E4gT and the SGS3?

I never used the camera on the S3 but they are both 8MP. So I imagine the quality is the same.
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How would you compare the camera on the E4gT and the SGS3?
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Sgs3 has better low light performance, less shutter lag, and it works overall a lot better. Not to say the s2 has a bad camera, it's amazing. Just not quite where the s3 is. You were asking about the gnex versus the s2? Obviously a
being a nexus the gnex gets better software updates, but speed wise it's a joke. Worse processor. Worse gpu, terrible camera, terrible battery life, pentile screen, etc etc. However if I had a choice I would STILL go with the gnex because I really do value software that much
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jonny4 said:
Ok, I have been given a sgh-i957 Galaxy Tab 8.9 LTE on AT&T for work and it's Nvidia Tegra 2 or Qualcomm Snapdragon Dual-core at 1.5 GHz with Honeycomb and TouchWiz is ungodly laggy and slow. First off, I know I am comparing a tablet to a phone but I am curious how the S4gT with current release and its 1.2 GHz Samsung Exynos C210 dual-core compares. I am very worried it is just the in-efficiency of Android and I am wondering if I should wait for a quad core phone like the LG Optimus G. Or if the versions of the Operating Systems are to blame. I know most of us here have customized one way or another but I am hoping someone can remember how it was before they made their device awesome. The Wimax vs. LTE issue doesn't bother me because even though Sprint swears they have LTE here in Houston a lot of people are reporting their LTE phone's are on 3g more. This will help me determine if I sign a contract today for a new phone or wait until the LG Optimus G comes out. On a side note I can do nothing custom to the work supplied tablet, LOL.
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The E4GT is very smooth and not laggy, unlike the Galaxy 8.9 Tab. I used that Tablet several times when working on it for my friend and its lagginess and slow responses were really irritating.

Best processor ever

I have to say I am very imppressed by this phones processor out of every phone I had exynos is the best.I had the lg optimus g and couldnt deal with the random force closes and laginess. Best processor ever leave your comments on thid beast ass processor
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Hmm. I have the Optimus g too but I feel that it is a lot more faster than the note 2 I also have. Funny how everyone's experience is different
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Maknora said:
Hmm. I have the Optimus g too but I feel that it is a lot more faster than the note 2 I also have. Funny how everyone's experience is different
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Your spell checker seems to be better as well

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Your spell checker seems to be better as well
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more better

Haha thanks. I really just like the Optimus g.
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This phone has been silky smooth and gobbled up everything I've thrown at it. I was shocked at how much faster it is than my Nexus 7, and certainly faster than my Skyrocket.
The only thing that drives me nuts about the processor is the wake lag every time I turn it on from deep sleep. I'll learn to live with it, but this phone would be almost perfect if that were fixed (not including software tweaks).

Jrockttu said:
This phone has been silky smooth and gobbled up everything I've thrown at it. I was shocked at how much faster it is than my Nexus 7, and certainly faster than my Skyrocket.
The only thing that drives me nuts about the processor is the wake lag every time I turn it on from deep sleep. I'll learn to live with it, but this phone would be almost perfect if that were fixed (not including software tweaks).
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Yea well reducing the processor to that low of a clock speed is partly responsible for the crazy ass battery life of this phone. I'd rather have another millisecond of unlock time and gain several hours of battery life. Fine with me.
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i dunno about that... the Snapdragon S4 Pro is quite a beast... it's technically faster than this exynos...
i bet it comes down to software and how well it works with the hardware

ShadowVlican said:
i dunno about that... the Snapdragon S4 Pro is quite a beast... it's technically faster than this exynos...
i bet it comes down to software and how well it works with the hardware
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Look at the Engadget review of the Nexus 4. The note 2 (exynos) beat the snapdragon s4 pro in 4/6 benchmarks and they felt like the exy was better in normal use and battery efficiency. Just look up Nexus 4 review on engadget- Nexus 4,Optimus G, note 2 are all compared. Look at the benchmark table. Note 2 wins 4/6.
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I love the power and speed of my note.... But seriously, benchmarks mean nothing to me. It's real life usage that matters. . Not an app that measures potential.
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I've never seen any huge advantage of the Exynos processors over any others, mainly because they are just stock ARM designs. If Samsung wanted to impress me, they would pay for an architecture license. The A6 is pretty hard to beat, given the performance AND battery life, and I really like my S4 Pro, although it is a bit of a juice hog.

The exynos is a heavily modified arm design, and apples a6 is very very similar to it.
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ShadowVlican said:
i dunno about that... the Snapdragon S4 Pro is quite a beast... it's technically faster than this exynos...
i bet it comes down to software and how well it works with the hardware
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That's why you see iphones perform very well despite the specs looking like they are lacking. The iphone 5 after playing with it is just as fast as my Note 2 but it's only dual core and clocked much lower. RAM is also lower.

Pretty sure the reason the a6 is as smooth or smother with lower specs is due to software optimization and the fact it uses 3 core gpu ( which everyone seems to leave out when they make these statements). That is where apple has done good.
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Jrockttu said:
...The only thing that drives me nuts about the processor is the wake lag every time I turn it on from deep sleep. I'll learn to live with it, but this phone would be almost perfect if that were fixed (not including software tweaks).
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How long of a lag are you talking about? Are you sure it's not the home button lag from S Voice being enabled?

Mad383Max said:
Pretty sure the reason the a6 is as smooth or smother with lower specs is due to software optimization and the fact it uses 3 core gpu ( which everyone seems to leave out when they make these statements). That is where apple has done good.
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One area Apple has excelled in is GPU performance. I'm surprised Samsung doesn't push the limits in this area harder. I don't play games much myself but as you said it goes beyond just playing your favorite games on a phone.

Nexus 4 <3
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exynos is king right now (i'm ignoring apple, since it's not apples-to-apples, excuse the pun). exynos 5 is going to be ridiculous. actually it already is, inside the samsung chromebook.

Normally id say cant wait for the note 3 with the quad xenyos 5, but im happy with the note 2, and I hope they wait a year before releasing it. No more 6 month life cycles please
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jackxlj said:
The exynos is a heavily modified arm design, and apples a6 is very very similar to it.
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No, not even close. A6/A6X are heavily modified ARM, and Exynos is just tweaked stock. Samsung doesn't have the architecture license, last I checked. Apple does.
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