Is it just me or has our roms come to a bit of a stand still? Is it because samsungs are hard to develop for, or is it something else?i know ot took quite some time for the infuse to get a good base of devs but i left att before that happened.
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Have you been reading about the massive progress devs have made across boards on Jelly bean? Hell even with the recent FG20 leak. The amazing kernel support from agat and chris41G. It isn't still at all. There is a lot of activity, just read around.
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Lately I been seeing a lot of development going on.. From jelly bean.. A few new ics roms and the usually update follow ups
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Lately I been seeing a lot of development going on.. From jelly bean.. A few new ics roms and the usually update follow ups
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Besides not everyone catching up and playing "follow the leak" game anymore, I'd agree with everyone else that there are some furious activities.
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Besides not everyone catching up and playing "follow the leak" game anymore, I'd agree with everyone else that there are some furious activities.
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Lol at follow the leak game!
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Well yeah ive seen the devs working on jellybean and i saw the fg20 leak but I don't trust it given the fact that it's meant for boost. And in terms of jellybean its just a port. Once we start getting the leaks for it who knows what issues we will have. Hell look at how many folks were hard bricked because of the emmc bug. And yeah team rejects pretty much came outta no where but a lot of what they are doing is simply themes (no offense). I'm not hating. I'm just curious is it that hard to develop for samsung devices? HTC has no problems look at all of their devs. Motorola phones have more devs than we do.
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It only looks like the developers are at a standstill because they have so much to work with. Source for ics and now leaks for jb, which way to go first?
We're all used to microwaved food and high speed downloads and jumping tweet topics. Meaningful work takes time, just ask anyone who ever used a shovel.
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Well yeah ive seen the devs working on jellybean and i saw the fg20 leak but I don't trust it given the fact that it's meant for boost. And in terms of jellybean its just a port. Once we start getting the leaks for it who knows what issues we will have. Hell look at how many folks were hard bricked because of the emmc bug. And yeah team rejects pretty much came outta no where but a lot of what they are doing is simply themes (no offense). I'm not hating. I'm just curious is it that hard to develop for samsung devices? HTC has no problems look at all of their devs. Motorola phones have more devs than we do.
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(no offense) but i don't think you follow actual development. I don't normally respond to these threads... but, here we go.
a few things, there is a jelly bean port, yes. but there is also a build from source. as well as tons of activity towards CM10 (JB based incase you were unaware). I develop about 10 hours or more a day for this device (which I don't currently have), because I'm working (with TeamEpic) towards getting official CM device status. This entails a working source kernel, which is done, a new RIL, which is done, now, we are working on merging the kernel with the already official smdk4210 (sgs2, skyrocket, n7000, etc) kernel. once i can do that with minimal changes to the core of the kernel, then official status should be easy. official cm status means not only cm9 support and nightlies from them, but cm10 when it comes along..
just because you don't see development, doesnt mean its not there, you just don't know where to look, and probably wouldnt recognize it you found it.. we developers have a way of not letting things out in the open until WE are ready... i have a ton of projects, but very few release threads.. for a reason.
development is not at a standstill, catering to you is...
development is not at a standstill, catering to you is..
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Thank you Chris41G for ALL the work you do. And thanks to all the others here too! I know how much it takes to get something even close to right. Let alone 'good' as you all tend to do when you do release. It's so hard when you've got twenty other things to do too to 'dev for free' as it were: Like actually work in the real world and take care of family and personal business it's just amazing how much the devs here give.
It's the quiet diligent and hard work (most very much unseen and unrewarding; monitarily anyways) from people like you and the others that give us the opportunity to use and see some great stuff.
I'll just say hat's off and thanks to you'all.
This wasn't me speaking negatively about you or the other devs. I really was asking if it is difficult working on samsung devices. I'm sure you guys put in a lot of work to get the roms/kernels working as smooth as possible. And are working towards better things. I appreciate everything you all do.
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This wasn't me speaking negatively about you or the other devs. I really was asking if it is difficult working on samsung devices. I'm sure you guys put in a lot of work to get the roms/kernels working as smooth as possible. And are working towards better things. I appreciate everything you all do.
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What you were saying is that you don't see much development. But the truth is that you just don't "see" it. There's a ton of development going on... you just gotta know where to look. And like chris41g said, the JB ROMs aren't all ports. There are 3 different developers working on JB right now... maybe some are ports, but at least sbrissen's is from source.
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Is it just me or has our roms come to a bit of a stand still? Is it because samsungs are hard to develop for, or is it something else?i know ot took quite some time for the infuse to get a good base of devs but i left att before that happened.
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You all are missing the primary point to my post... Are samsung devices more difficult to develop for than say HTC or Motorola?
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Depends on the type of development you're referring to..themeing and winzip dev are equal across manufacturers. Kernel and source based development is usually better on flagship devices, particularly those with unlocked bootloaders.. regardless of manufacturer. GSM devices generally have a larger development base, due to a much larger user base, and a lot more common devices.
I prefer developing on a Samsung device. The only android device I own that isn't a Samsung is my nexus 7
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Depends on the type of development you're referring to..themeing and winzip dev are equal across manufacturers. Kernel and source based development is usually better on flagship devices, particularly those with unlocked bootloaders.. regardless of manufacturer. GSM devices generally have a larger development base, due to a much larger user base, and a lot more common devices.
I prefer developing on a Samsung device. The only android device I own that isn't a Samsung is my nexus 7
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Thank you for your answer and again I wasn't meaning to sound like I was bashing just curious. Now with everything that is going on with JB I am seeing the development in progress and im getting excited. One cause it's jellybean and two because I can actually see the progress.
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Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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Maybe renaming it to the epic is hurting us, lmao
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Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Well, devs are staying behind because we are all starting to see how the game is going. Too many Android phones are coming out at once and money ain't coming any faster. I'm sure if people paid devs to come dev for the device, we'd have more devs...so if you want to pay for someone's E4GT, go right on ahead. If you don't want to, just wait it out. This phone is already pretty sweet and the problems we do have, a dev probably won't be able to fix those..so..yeah.
This phone is sick dude, just enjoy it and be happy that you don't own a device where you have to depend on the devs just to be able to get through the day.
Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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The Epic scene was pretty good. A lot of people came from that Evo...smh, the Evo messed the whole game up if ya ask me. Now people willl sit around and say their phone is garbage if it doesn't have the same dev scene that the Evo had.
Little do most people know that the Evo was damn near the same device as the Desire, N1 and Dinc. So most of the reason why its scene was so great was because a dev from any one of those phones could just port their roms over and all they had to do was swap out the hardware files and the kernel. Other than those 2 things, everything was damn near exactly the same.
Yeah I think we just have to be patience
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I've seen a few well known devs from the HTC Evo post here, so I'm pretty optimistic.
Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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what do we really need here? cyanogen and miui and stock roms. that is asking alot but that would be epic. for now i am loving starburst. love asop but don't remove touchwiz launcher and widgets. just my opinion.
I had the First Epic and the Dev's there were GREAT. We may not have had as many as some phones like the Evo but the ones we had did great work and who needs 100 roms to choose from when the ones we had did the trick. We had some great Roms and Themes and the fixes came pretty fast.
I have not rooted this phone yet mainly because I have not felt the need. The only thing I am missing is WiFi Tether. I am sure when this LOS gets worked out and the devs get their hands on the original source we will see much more. I am grateful for anyone that helps make this phone better, but it is pretty dang good out of the box. The best I have ever had.
Where did u hear that from
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OG epic scene was great.... kinda started slowing down with the whole froyo debacle, because it was pretty well known sammy was already working on ginger.... so evsryone was waiting for the final, correct source.... still are i think... i gotta check... gf has my epic and id love to see a finished gb...
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Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Now?? pffft what are you talking about? They want that **** out on launch day! wtf you slacking devs that dont get paid and do this all for free?? Get back in the sweatshop and do work that requires more thinking than a sweatshop worker in china but gets "paid"(donations) less! These devs should worship us and do what we tell them when we tell them! When a phone is released that very day we expect EVERY MOD imaginable, every "bell and whistle" and a choice of at least 10 roms and 10 kernels..
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Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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I cant wait until viper comes over! That will be the first custom rom I run on this phone.
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Haha right?!
i have been spoiled
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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sense is pretty hard to get working on a non HTC phone. I dont think I've ever heard of a sense rom (that fully worked right) ported over to a non htc phone(at least that I know of). It's not impossible(from what I hear) but it is very very very difficult(so I hear)
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Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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God I hope not, ****ing devs lol
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Where are all the devs? Is it me or does it seem that only several roms are on the first page of the Development forum? btw im not referring to the Original Development forum lol... It kinda surprises me with all the hype surrounding this phone that there aren't more roms being cooked up... Im by no means complaining im happy with Blazer but just surprised.
It'll pick up the gs2 was a little sluggish out of the gate too
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I dont get what ROMS people are looking for. You have touchwiz, and there is only so much that can be done with that, and you have aosp...so much can be done with that. ROMS can only be modified so much and still be fuctional. If your comparing it to the epic, or the evo or something, your probably taking about themes. I noticed a lot of the same crap, it just looked different and "dev-c" called it a rom, but it was the same thing 'dev-b" did, that was the same thing "dev-a" did, each one just looked different, or had different apps added or removed.
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I dont get what ROMS people are looking for. You have touchwiz, and there is only so much that can be done with that, and you have aosp...so much can be done with that. ROMS can only be modified so much and still be fuctional. If your comparing it to the epic, or the evo or something, your probably taking about themes. I noticed a lot of the same crap, it just looked different and "dev-c" called it a rom, but it was the same thing 'dev-b" did, that was the same thing "dev-a" did, each one just looked different, or had different apps added or removed.
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Spot on. Original dev is pretty the only real dev, and its moving quite fast.
Cm9 here already works better than my old phones cm9.
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Im not into roms anymore. Theres always something missing from the roms that stock had and then i end up going back to stock for it.
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Im not into roms anymore. Theres always something missing from the roms that stock had and then i end up going back to stock for it.
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Well, if you're you're referring to AOSP, then that's correct, because that's what it is. AOSP is stock, barebone google android; no touchwiz, sense, motoblur, etc; those features are tied into the framework of that rom.
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Well, if you're you're referring to AOSP, then that's correct, because that's what it is. AOSP is stock, barebone google android; no touchwiz, sense, motoblur, etc; those features are tied into the framework of that rom.
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No I was referring to all of the roms not just aosp.
Yep the "devs" are hard at work on cynogen and aokp and doing amazing at it.. ......... they all deserve some thanks and recognition. We are maybe only a few weeks away from a really truly functional jb build. We Are fortunate to have real devs
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A couple devs just made it over and are cooking up some stuff.
Unless it gets pushed back like everything else Sprint has done, this phone should get a JB update most likely in August. Once it's updated and source is released I think you will see a lot more ROMS. I think they might be getting a little bored with ICS (even though there inst much difference between the two)
I should of been more specific. Lol I was talking about my rom experience from the SG2. I have yet to try out roms on the SG3.
I would just like to say I am entirely satisfied with the progress being made and as soon as I can comment in that forum I will tell them personally. I also intend to donate. That is probably the best way to get things moving. :laugh:
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Spot on. Original dev is pretty the only real dev, and its moving quite fast.
Cm9 here already works better than my old phones cm9.
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Unless it gets pushed back like everything else Sprint has done, this phone should get a JB update most likely in August. Once it's updated and source is released I think you will see a lot more ROMS. I think they might be getting a little bored with ICS (even though there inst much difference between the two)
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I think August is a bit generous. The Epic was supposed to have Froyo August 2010 but didn't get it until March 2011. I'd be very surprised to see JB on this officially before October.
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Wicked sensations it's on its way soon. Read the ROM threads. Plenty of devs helping support other roms while they make theirs.
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Wicked sensations it's on its way soon. Read the ROM threads. Plenty of devs helping support other roms while they make theirs.
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I really don't consider myself a dev. Its one of those roms that everybody is saying is not "dev ". I actually agree, but some people still enjoy. But thanks though. But I think we still have some great all around devs in both sections. I'm sure more will come, but I'm definitely happy with what we have right now.
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This phone has been in circulation for what... 2 months? Oh how beggers love to be choosers. This thread is disturbing, with all this "real dev" mumbo. Those that can write from scratch are few and far between. Don't take away from those whom spend countless hours tweaking leaks and source, allowing us the opportunity to choose what fits our likings.
Congrats OP! Way to demotivate those who are putting in the long hours. Until you can do what the "non devs" can do, I say ZIP IT!
Q&A or not, this thread should be closed!
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Yeah I realize most devs are hard at work on JB... Like i said im not complaining cuz like one usuer said there isn't much to improve upon with this phone even with stock touchwiz... Coming from the E3d forums a new rom would pop up every week practically... but i see this is a different animal... Just cool to get everyone's opinion thats all...
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Yeah I realize most devs are hard at work on JB... Like i said im not complaining cuz like one usuer said there isn't much to improve upon with this phone even with stock touchwiz... Coming from the E3d forums a new rom would pop up every week practically... but i see this is a different animal... Just cool to get everyone's opinion thats all...
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Well, ya kinda started a fire storm. I'm not trying to be rude, but you should've navigated through the dev forums before posting this. Not saying the replys are your fault, but some of them are low blows to those who put lots and lots of time.
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Well, ya kinda started a fire storm. I'm not trying to be rude, but you should've navigated through the dev forums before posting this. Not saying the replys are your fault, but some of them are low blows to those who put lots and lots of time.
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Not to point out the obvious but, it seems like you are the only one taking offense and creating a "fire storm". It didn't read to me like he was putting anyone down but, asking an honest question. The devs we have are great. Wouldn't trade them for anything. We are lacking in quantity though. Rather have quality than quantity so I'm perfectly ok with that. I guess I'm just confused by your comments though because I was looking for the trolls and flames and didn't see anyone taking offense to his question. Either way we are all entitled to our own opinions. I agree with both of you but, not your particular attitude. *shrug*
I just got a sgs2.. and well the aosp game is kinda ridiculous on this device... props to the devs who's provided the options they were able to on this device but where are the rest of the roms at?
expect to see some more aosp comin from me here in the next month or so
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JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS I MEANT NO DISRESPECT AT ALL.. I EVEN CREDITED THE DEVS WGO BROUGHT SOME GREAT ROMS TO THIS DEVICE.. I just want people to know I'm here to bring more to the table.. I'm guessing there is a major hurdle to overcome to bring aosp to this device since I'm not seeing a lot of it.. but I'm up for the task.. and I'll simply let my work speak for itself..
If you have an issue bring it to my attention but please dont harass me for stating that I wanna contribute to this device.. I don't want a bad rep at all and I hope you all will enjoy the work I produce
Only complaint on AOSP roms is that data speeds don't seem to be up to par compared to stock Touchwiz. Hopefully once Samsung releases the latest ICS source things get better since FI03 fixed the slow 4g speeds that haunted previous ICS builds.
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Only complaint on AOSP roms is that data speeds don't seem to be up to par compared to stock Touchwiz. Hopefully once Samsung releases the latest ICS source things get better since FI03 fixed the slow 4g speeds that haunted previous ICS builds.
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CM9 WITH FI03 modem gives me awesome speeds, stabilty, and battery.
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Only complaint on AOSP roms is that data speeds don't seem to be up to par compared to stock Touchwiz. Hopefully once Samsung releases the latest ICS source things get better since FI03 fixed the slow 4g speeds that haunted previous ICS builds.
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3g speeds are the same on aosp and touchwiz. Its 4g that's different. I would suggest sbrissens build.
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3g speeds are the same on aosp and touchwiz. Its 4g that's different. I would suggest sbrissens build.
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Everyones different though, just for me I tried them all (ran AOSP roms for the last 3-4 months), 3g seems a lot better on Twizz especially at work where it's a very low signal area. And 4g is no contest between the two.
So since my post mysteriously vanished... I'll sum it up for those that missed it.
Our devs are working hard to get us official cm status, we have many aosp options to choose from already, we have many more roms coming with all the work chris41g is putting into development for our device.
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I dont release half of my roms because I focus more on one but show me a sprint device with more recent aosp than us besides the flagships that are basically included in aosp to begin with. think sprint will let you exchange your device for one with a community you can respect for a few months til you're ready. Maybe including some aosp options will provide somewhat a better understanding of ur purpose for this thread.
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So since my post mysteriously vanished... I'll sum it up for those that missed it.
Our devs are working hard to get us official cm status, we have many aosp options to choose from already, we have many more roms coming with all the work chris41g is putting into development for our device.
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Ya I noticed that too mattix. Thank you and all devs for our aosp roms and cm and aokp.
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Mattix724 said:
So since my post mysteriously vanished... I'll sum it up for those that missed it.
Our devs are working hard to get us official cm status, we have many aosp options to choose from already, we have many more roms coming with all the work chris41g is putting into development for our device.
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I deleted your post due to it being very rude and flaming another member. It was reported and it was removed. I will continue to do this if I see fit. On another note if you are producing or friends are producing roms then I'd suggest you let you works speak for themselves and not sit here and continue to act the way I have seen in this thread.
With that I will be locking this thread and ask that another like it not be made again
Thank you papa smurf.. no pun intended
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justlovejoy said:
I dont release half of my roms because I focus more on one but show me a sprint device with more recent aosp than us besides the flagships that are basically included in aosp to begin with. think sprint will let you exchange your device for one with a community you can respect for a few months til you're ready. Maybe including some aosp options will provide somewhat a better understanding of ur purpose for this thread.
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Evo 4g, evo3d, epic 4g ect ect...
I respect you as a fellow dev. I'm actually using your ROM right now.. I'm a hardcore aosp guy and I was just expecting a device with a lot more options coming from the last two outdated phones I was on..
I was expecting to see some kind of positive feedback to see how interested people were in seeing more aosp not people trippin the EFF out.. I have a feeling that this is gonna be like the og evo threads all over again.. everyone's on such a defensive stand point!
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I want to apologize for my first post earlier, I just woke up after passing out watching a movie and I took this thread as an insult to our developers.
Yes, I did go a little overboard with what I said. I know that this does not change what I said. I hope to see what you can bring to the table.
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I want to apologize for my first post earlier, I just woke up after passing out watching a movie and I took this thread as an insult to our developers.
Yes, I did go a little overboard with what I said. I know that this does not change what I said. I hope to see what you can bring to the table.
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I didn't even see what you said but no harm no foul.. I didn't mean to insult anyone I even made sure to throw them some kudos I just had a feeling either aosp wasn't hot on this device or that it was hard AF to bring over
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Are you Building from A Source or In A Kitchen?
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Building from source
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Building from source
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You should see if you can work alongside sbrissen. JB aosp/cm10/aokp/PA are all pretty stable just a few kinks here and there sbrissen has done a FANTASTIC JOB ON JB! Just throwing some ideas your way
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You should see if you can work alongside sbrissen. JB aosp/cm10/aokp/PA are all pretty stable just a few kinks here and there sbrissen has done a FANTASTIC JOB ON JB! Just throwing some ideas your way
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I second that
Sbrissen has produced some of the memorable stuff during last year and a halk for various devices
I'm not sure what you mean by not enough AOSP roms. Every major one has been released for our device and theyre all pretty stable.
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I know technically CM has to be compatible with our phones and i know alot of folks would object to PA cause they prefer their rom with the TouchWiz element, but since the International version just ported PA and CM10 over to their phones, what do yall think the likely chance is that we could get it ported over? I do like TouchWiz and the whole functionality of the S Apps, but i also do like variety. What about everyone else? Would you all make the plunge to PA?
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I know technically CM has to be compatible with our phones and i know alot of folks would object to PA cause they prefer their rom with the TouchWiz element, but since the International version just ported PA and CM10 over to their phones, what do yall think the likely chance is that we could get it ported over? I do like TouchWiz and the whole functionality of the S Apps, but i also do like variety. What about everyone else? Would you all make the plunge to PA?
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Definitely interested in seeing a PA rom for this phone. One of the reasons why i picked up this phone was for the PA roms coming to this phone. Loved them on my SGS2.
Ah, seriously, I'm waiting for PA to come out before buying this phone.
Absolutely .... I love PA.
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So, what would it take to get PA for the T889? How diff is the hardware from the international version?
I thought it was exactly the same, but probably wrong.
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I really dont know the difference. Prolly radios? Id like to go ask the dev in the International Note XDA forum but im afraid of getting yelled at lol. Ill go give it a shot and report back if i hear anything. Wish me luck!:laugh:
Lol, same here. Surprisingly, I found the differences on the note 2 wikipedia page. But ya, would be nice to hear a dev's perspective.
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I spoke to the dev, Utacka, and he said "Im guessing you need to modify the kernel routing to your modems. But thats just a wild guess without knowing anything about your model." So
Paranoid Android looks pretty neat, I wouldn't mind it at all. This looks good especially with the whole creative s-pen aspect of our handsets.
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I spoke to the dev, Utacka, and he said "Im guessing you need to modify the kernel routing to your modems. But thats just a wild guess without knowing anything about your model." So
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I'll see if I can ask moles for recommendations. I know he and Jesus are jammed this weekend bringing PA to 4.2. Regardless, we'd need a maintainer, and all of the other PA guys I know are outside of the US.
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Paranoid Android looks pretty neat, I wouldn't mind it at all. This looks good especially with the whole creative s-pen aspect of our handsets.
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The S-Pen only functions like its supposed to on touchwiz based ROMs. No CM9/10, no miui ROMs and not even on some launchers.
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Yeah i know we would lose that function and alot of us love it. I mean i do too...but sometimes i like the look and feel of PA. Especially all the customization of it. I love theming
Hm.. well, I've emailed Molesarecoming (PA main dude), also like, every dev in the T-889 community. Maybe after this weekend, some more developers will be T-889 owners.. crossing fingers.
PA looks so cool i hope it gets ported soon and i use my note 2 as a big galaxy s3 so the s-pen isnt very useful so it wouldnt bother me if it didnt work on PA
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Hm.. well, I've emailed Molesarecoming (PA main dude), also like, every dev in the T-889 community. Maybe after this weekend, some more developers will be T-889 owners.. crossing fingers.
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What's going on this weekend?
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What's going on this weekend?
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Ah, big nationwide T-Mobile sales today and tomor. Actually, not for the Note II.. So maybe not.
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The S-Pen only functions like its supposed to on touchwiz based ROMs. No CM9/10, no miui ROMs and not even on some launchers.
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Ahh, I thought that rough S-Pen functionality was part of ICS (as in apps that use the s-pen sdk would work with it), my mistake.
However, it looks like the Note 10.1 and AT&T Note 1 ParanoidAndroid ports have S-Pen support, so I am still hoping.
I can't wait to dump touch wiz for a cm based rom
So this somewhat resembles good news for T889- from a pm from dev, ptmr3:
"From what I have heard there are a couple Devs putting together a device tree to compile AOSP from source. PA is compiled from source as well so I would assume as soon as the device tree is out together a whole world of possibilities will open up."
Most of the other devs I've talked to have their hands full atm, but at least this is something.
Wow thanks! That does look like a hopeful response. And thank you n pming the devs. So excited. Wish i knew more about deving but the only thing I've ever done is theme the notification bar back in the Nexus One days lol.
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Since the point of my last thread was not answered, I thought I'd try again. (And yes, I do realize why.)
So without the passive disappointment, what's the road map in terms of ROMs?
I understand AOSP, and probably AOKP, are coming soon.
Anyone heard anything about MIUI?
Or a Phablet ROM?
Oh, and thread monitor, I'm not mentally ill.
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Once we get a stable AOSP rom, the ports will come out and yes that includes MIUI. And also........
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I am not going to flame you.
Listen, this is not an extremely popular device. It is a great device. Just not a very popular one in terms of sales in the US. With that you can go one of three ways. Wish for things that are never to come, switch devices, or learn something.
XDA has great and I mean GREAT resources. You just have to get out of the device forum to find them. Chances are you won't have to spend any money either(if you own a computer). Go check out the developer forums. They are full of tutorials. None of this stuff is rocket science. Most of it is just reading..... and copy and pasting because someone already did it first. If you break it your out 300 bucks tops on Craigslist. We will help you.
In the famous words of a fallen brother:
I'm Gonna Make A Change, For Once In My Life
It's Gonna Feel Real Good, Gonna Make A Difference
Gonna Make It Right . . .
I'm Starting With The Man In the Mirror
I'm Asking Him To Change his ways
And No Message Could Have been and clearer
If You Wanna Make The World a better place
Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change
Yo I agree. I came from plenty of phones with lots of Roms and just general stuff to flash the only phone I've had that was this bland in dev department was my other LG's the revolution and the spectrum. **** even the vivid had crap development but was a he'll of a lot better than this and that phone was a he'll of a lot more hidden buy the one x than this should be from the s3. **** all I keep reading is how there are so many great devs with this phone but there isint even any good stock moded Roms or more than 1 kernel. I switched from the vivid an amazing phone just because lack of roms. And I might have to again. Its sad that a phone this super can still suck. One thing I have been seriously considering is the lgog to nexus4 hack. And just getting my fix that way I've been hoping to see someone do some fixing to the hack to give us full sd card space and capacitive button fix. And I would have done it already.
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**** I just checked the att side and they have way more work for the same dang phone. Even the Canadian edition has more work than us with the sprint. Its sucks for me considering I wanted the att edition. But was able to get the sprint edition for like 200 bucks cheaper than I could find the att. I just use my phone on WiFi so I don't care what service. But now how can I trade this for the att one? I can't that's how lol
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Look I come from the GNex which has a bunch of ROMs. I don't complain to much though because I know that they are waiting to get the JB source. I could always switch back to GNex but I don't because I know the devs don't want to work to hard on something when another better thing is coming out soon. And besides they are working on CM9 which is still something. This phone did not have really good sales to be having much support. At least we have it.
Oh and there is someone who did release a JB ROM. It's just really buggy.
In the past 2 months we have sold more optimus G's than any other phone in our store. The BOGO is really helping this great phone out.
BTW today I sold 6 optimus G's, 1 galaxy s3 and no other phone. This has been pretty consistent sense the first of the year.
If its been like this for most other stores then its just a matter of time before some kid or experienced developer gives this phone the spotlight it deserves.
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The AT&T OG and Sprint OG are not the same phone. Different radios, partition map to start. The Nexus 4 is also not the same device for the same reasons mentioned. A different partition map alone is enough to brick a device. The same thing applies to the GNex and other phones.
The LGOG software is broken. The source code is a mess. Joker has had to pull a number of fixes from from outside Sprint LGOG channels to fix things. Without a clean, stable and functional base, devs have had to spend more time fixing things than building ROMs. I personally have been building custom ROM's since the Palm T|C and the LGOG is by far the worst device I've ever deved on.
Not enough ROMs you say. Almost every stock based ROM is derivative and can hardly be counted as a true ROM. They are little more than themes and tweaks packaged as ROMs. Keeping that in mind the are only three true ROMs, Stock, AOSP and Hybrid. Everything beyond that is pretty wrapping.
If you consider build.prop tweaks, optimizations, ui changes and apk swaps a ROM then look at my Motorola deblur/debloat. It does all of those things on a dozen or more phones and is nothing more than a script. Calkulin did something similar over in Samsung land.
If you would like, I could very easily push out three or four different "ROMs" a day for whole week and turn this into the copycat nightmare the Evo 4G turned into. The other option is let us get a good stable stock base and AOSP base and let themers worry about what font or battery icon to use. BTW where are the themers, we could really use some.
I came from the photon and gnex ). Joker, marz, and shabby are 3 of the best devs I've encountered. With 2 out of 3 working on this device you know eventually we'll get something worth the wait.
I have a question for one of you though. Jellybean won't be out for a few months considering sprints rep for delayed updates could we expect to see aosp for ics and just not worry about jellybean for the moment? That would at least boost the amount of choices we have for now. enough to crave the flashaholics till work is finished with the jellybean based roms
Or was this the complications you were talking about? Even with ics
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Just look at it this way. Dragons are coming. every dev is going to jump start as soon as jelly hits. Right now it's all on LG and Sprint.
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sharkboy0901 said:
Just look at it this way. Dragons are coming. every dev is going to jump start as soon as jelly hits. Right now it's all on LG and Sprint.
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I'm content with what we have now. I have helped a few friends find ROMs for their phones, and like Loki pointed out, it can be a nightmare. There is no way to differentiate ROMs on some phones. This is the first phone I have had that Joker, Th3Bill and Loki have dev'd for, but xboxfanj is excellent. AdriVelasquez also strikes me as being a real solid dev for us, although I don't have prior experience with him either.
I guess the point of my post is to point out that things ARE in fact happening. The ROMs we have are great and stable. I have not found a single ROM that I couldn't work with for a week or more. That certainly cannot be said for most ROMs. With the Epic 4G, there were a lot of ROMs, but some that I flashed made my phone completely useless from the onset.
AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, CM and PA I think will all make it to this phone. Realistically, aside from these, I agree with Loki's assessment. There are ROMs only in the sense that somebody changed one thing in the stock experience. Those five are the ones that I am most concerned with because they offer such a unique experience to the user.
Loki is moving, th3bill is extra busy. Im working 2 jobs plus kids and without my build box ATM. Xbox is making great progress in a way that will help us in the long run. We have another kernel dev that's helping out now. So calm down and let us work
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I'm plenty calm just a little disappointed. But Im still here I guess I could be a better motivator than just bashing the overall development.
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I'm plenty calm just a little disappointed. But Im still here I guess I could be a better motivator than just bashing the overall development.
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Explain to me why you are disappointed? If you are so disappointed then where is your custom ROM?
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Explain to me why you are disappointed? If you are so disappointed then where is your custom ROM?
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If I knew how and had the capability I would be working on it. But I am a hardware guy give me a broken phone piece by piece and I'll make it a brand new phone. Its what I'm good at. Software is just super foreign to me. Not everyone Is good at everything.
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If I knew how and had the capability I would be working on it. But I am a hardware guy give me a broken phone piece by piece and I'll make it a brand new phone. Its what I'm good at. Software is just super foreign to me. Not everyone Is good at everything.
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I think u should just dump this phone and get urself an S3 if u want roms, seriously. I'm so sick of the complaining! :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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toprock23 said:
I think u should just dump this phone and get urself an S3 if u want roms, seriously. I'm so sick of the complaining! :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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I'm sick of baby's who can't take some simple complaining. Its not like we're saying **** you all your a waste of a person. Were complaining that something we own and paid good money for is not like we would like it to be or what we were hoping it would be. Some of us have gotten used to the idea of many roms and lots of things happening. Its not fair to yell at us for wondering why it's not the same with this device. There is no need to be a **** and attack people. Were not attacking any developers at best we are attacking the general development on this phone. **** for all you know we could be wishing that more devs had this phone and things like that. Don't just decide we're dicks because we want something. Treat everyone with respect. That goes for devs and users.
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I'm sick of baby's who can't take some simple complaining. Its not like we're saying **** you all your a waste of a person. Were complaining that something we own and paid good money for is not like we would like it to be or what we were hoping it would be. Some of us have gotten used to the idea of many roms and lots of things happening. Its not fair to yell at us for wondering why it's not the same with this device. There is no need to be a **** and attack people. Were not attacking any developers at best we are attacking the general development on this phone. **** for all you know we could be wishing that more devs had this phone and things like that. Don't just decide we're dicks because we want something. Treat everyone with respect. That goes for devs and users.
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Wow u think ur the only one complaining? Obviously ur too lazy to read whats been going on. And I'm sorry but the price you paid for the phone doesn't come with awesome devs and all u can flash roms. The post u just started is like shoving **** back down our throats.
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Wow u think ur the only one complaining? Obviously ur too lazy to read whats been going on. And I'm sorry but the price you paid for the phone doesn't come with awesome devs and all u can flash roms. The post u just started is like shoving **** back down our throats.
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I'm not going to get pulled into a argument. Aparently you didn't get the point of my reply. Have a good day.
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I'm not going to get pulled into a argument. Aparently you didn't get the point of my reply. Have a good day.
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Theen what was the point, you know, besides being Captain Obvious.
Assimilated using the interface that interacts with the advanced internet.
Jesus, I wish I was a mod for this forum.
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