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To all the devs...

Is it just me or has our roms come to a bit of a stand still? Is it because samsungs are hard to develop for, or is it something else?i know ot took quite some time for the infuse to get a good base of devs but i left att before that happened.
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Have you been reading about the massive progress devs have made across boards on Jelly bean? Hell even with the recent FG20 leak. The amazing kernel support from agat and chris41G. It isn't still at all. There is a lot of activity, just read around.
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Lately I been seeing a lot of development going on.. From jelly bean.. A few new ics roms and the usually update follow ups
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MiguelHogue said:
Lately I been seeing a lot of development going on.. From jelly bean.. A few new ics roms and the usually update follow ups
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Besides not everyone catching up and playing "follow the leak" game anymore, I'd agree with everyone else that there are some furious activities.

MoHoGalore said:
Besides not everyone catching up and playing "follow the leak" game anymore, I'd agree with everyone else that there are some furious activities.
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Lol at follow the leak game!
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Well yeah ive seen the devs working on jellybean and i saw the fg20 leak but I don't trust it given the fact that it's meant for boost. And in terms of jellybean its just a port. Once we start getting the leaks for it who knows what issues we will have. Hell look at how many folks were hard bricked because of the emmc bug. And yeah team rejects pretty much came outta no where but a lot of what they are doing is simply themes (no offense). I'm not hating. I'm just curious is it that hard to develop for samsung devices? HTC has no problems look at all of their devs. Motorola phones have more devs than we do.
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It only looks like the developers are at a standstill because they have so much to work with. Source for ics and now leaks for jb, which way to go first?
We're all used to microwaved food and high speed downloads and jumping tweet topics. Meaningful work takes time, just ask anyone who ever used a shovel.

nthornton1990 said:
Well yeah ive seen the devs working on jellybean and i saw the fg20 leak but I don't trust it given the fact that it's meant for boost. And in terms of jellybean its just a port. Once we start getting the leaks for it who knows what issues we will have. Hell look at how many folks were hard bricked because of the emmc bug. And yeah team rejects pretty much came outta no where but a lot of what they are doing is simply themes (no offense). I'm not hating. I'm just curious is it that hard to develop for samsung devices? HTC has no problems look at all of their devs. Motorola phones have more devs than we do.
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(no offense) but i don't think you follow actual development. I don't normally respond to these threads... but, here we go.
a few things, there is a jelly bean port, yes. but there is also a build from source. as well as tons of activity towards CM10 (JB based incase you were unaware). I develop about 10 hours or more a day for this device (which I don't currently have), because I'm working (with TeamEpic) towards getting official CM device status. This entails a working source kernel, which is done, a new RIL, which is done, now, we are working on merging the kernel with the already official smdk4210 (sgs2, skyrocket, n7000, etc) kernel. once i can do that with minimal changes to the core of the kernel, then official status should be easy. official cm status means not only cm9 support and nightlies from them, but cm10 when it comes along..
just because you don't see development, doesnt mean its not there, you just don't know where to look, and probably wouldnt recognize it you found it.. we developers have a way of not letting things out in the open until WE are ready... i have a ton of projects, but very few release threads.. for a reason.
development is not at a standstill, catering to you is...

development is not at a standstill, catering to you is..
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Thank you Chris41G for ALL the work you do. And thanks to all the others here too! I know how much it takes to get something even close to right. Let alone 'good' as you all tend to do when you do release. It's so hard when you've got twenty other things to do too to 'dev for free' as it were: Like actually work in the real world and take care of family and personal business it's just amazing how much the devs here give.
It's the quiet diligent and hard work (most very much unseen and unrewarding; monitarily anyways) from people like you and the others that give us the opportunity to use and see some great stuff.
I'll just say hat's off and thanks to you'all.

This wasn't me speaking negatively about you or the other devs. I really was asking if it is difficult working on samsung devices. I'm sure you guys put in a lot of work to get the roms/kernels working as smooth as possible. And are working towards better things. I appreciate everything you all do.
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nthornton1990 said:
This wasn't me speaking negatively about you or the other devs. I really was asking if it is difficult working on samsung devices. I'm sure you guys put in a lot of work to get the roms/kernels working as smooth as possible. And are working towards better things. I appreciate everything you all do.
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What you were saying is that you don't see much development. But the truth is that you just don't "see" it. There's a ton of development going on... you just gotta know where to look. And like chris41g said, the JB ROMs aren't all ports. There are 3 different developers working on JB right now... maybe some are ports, but at least sbrissen's is from source.

nthornton1990 said:
Is it just me or has our roms come to a bit of a stand still? Is it because samsungs are hard to develop for, or is it something else?i know ot took quite some time for the infuse to get a good base of devs but i left att before that happened.
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It's just you
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You all are missing the primary point to my post... Are samsung devices more difficult to develop for than say HTC or Motorola?
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Depends on the type of development you're referring to..themeing and winzip dev are equal across manufacturers. Kernel and source based development is usually better on flagship devices, particularly those with unlocked bootloaders.. regardless of manufacturer. GSM devices generally have a larger development base, due to a much larger user base, and a lot more common devices.
I prefer developing on a Samsung device. The only android device I own that isn't a Samsung is my nexus 7
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chris41g said:
Depends on the type of development you're referring to..themeing and winzip dev are equal across manufacturers. Kernel and source based development is usually better on flagship devices, particularly those with unlocked bootloaders.. regardless of manufacturer. GSM devices generally have a larger development base, due to a much larger user base, and a lot more common devices.
I prefer developing on a Samsung device. The only android device I own that isn't a Samsung is my nexus 7
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Thank you for your answer and again I wasn't meaning to sound like I was bashing just curious. Now with everything that is going on with JB I am seeing the development in progress and im getting excited. One cause it's jellybean and two because I can actually see the progress.
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S3 forum seems to be less cluttered with roms...(reworded)

Where are all the devs? Is it me or does it seem that only several roms are on the first page of the Development forum? btw im not referring to the Original Development forum lol... It kinda surprises me with all the hype surrounding this phone that there aren't more roms being cooked up... Im by no means complaining im happy with Blazer but just surprised.

It'll pick up the gs2 was a little sluggish out of the gate too
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I dont get what ROMS people are looking for. You have touchwiz, and there is only so much that can be done with that, and you have aosp...so much can be done with that. ROMS can only be modified so much and still be fuctional. If your comparing it to the epic, or the evo or something, your probably taking about themes. I noticed a lot of the same crap, it just looked different and "dev-c" called it a rom, but it was the same thing 'dev-b" did, that was the same thing "dev-a" did, each one just looked different, or had different apps added or removed.

shiftr182 said:
I dont get what ROMS people are looking for. You have touchwiz, and there is only so much that can be done with that, and you have aosp...so much can be done with that. ROMS can only be modified so much and still be fuctional. If your comparing it to the epic, or the evo or something, your probably taking about themes. I noticed a lot of the same crap, it just looked different and "dev-c" called it a rom, but it was the same thing 'dev-b" did, that was the same thing "dev-a" did, each one just looked different, or had different apps added or removed.
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Spot on. Original dev is pretty the only real dev, and its moving quite fast.
Cm9 here already works better than my old phones cm9.
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Im not into roms anymore. Theres always something missing from the roms that stock had and then i end up going back to stock for it.

DroidBabe said:
Im not into roms anymore. Theres always something missing from the roms that stock had and then i end up going back to stock for it.
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Well, if you're you're referring to AOSP, then that's correct, because that's what it is. AOSP is stock, barebone google android; no touchwiz, sense, motoblur, etc; those features are tied into the framework of that rom.

teh roxxorz said:
Well, if you're you're referring to AOSP, then that's correct, because that's what it is. AOSP is stock, barebone google android; no touchwiz, sense, motoblur, etc; those features are tied into the framework of that rom.
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No I was referring to all of the roms not just aosp.

Yep the "devs" are hard at work on cynogen and aokp and doing amazing at it.. ......... they all deserve some thanks and recognition. We are maybe only a few weeks away from a really truly functional jb build. We Are fortunate to have real devs
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A couple devs just made it over and are cooking up some stuff.

Unless it gets pushed back like everything else Sprint has done, this phone should get a JB update most likely in August. Once it's updated and source is released I think you will see a lot more ROMS. I think they might be getting a little bored with ICS (even though there inst much difference between the two)

I should of been more specific. Lol I was talking about my rom experience from the SG2. I have yet to try out roms on the SG3.

I would just like to say I am entirely satisfied with the progress being made and as soon as I can comment in that forum I will tell them personally. I also intend to donate. That is probably the best way to get things moving. :laugh:

yousefak said:
Spot on. Original dev is pretty the only real dev, and its moving quite fast.
Cm9 here already works better than my old phones cm9.
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MikeyLee said:
Unless it gets pushed back like everything else Sprint has done, this phone should get a JB update most likely in August. Once it's updated and source is released I think you will see a lot more ROMS. I think they might be getting a little bored with ICS (even though there inst much difference between the two)
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I think August is a bit generous. The Epic was supposed to have Froyo August 2010 but didn't get it until March 2011. I'd be very surprised to see JB on this officially before October.
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Wicked sensations it's on its way soon. Read the ROM threads. Plenty of devs helping support other roms while they make theirs.
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The Root said:
Wicked sensations it's on its way soon. Read the ROM threads. Plenty of devs helping support other roms while they make theirs.
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I really don't consider myself a dev. Its one of those roms that everybody is saying is not "dev ". I actually agree, but some people still enjoy. But thanks though. But I think we still have some great all around devs in both sections. I'm sure more will come, but I'm definitely happy with what we have right now.
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This phone has been in circulation for what... 2 months? Oh how beggers love to be choosers. This thread is disturbing, with all this "real dev" mumbo. Those that can write from scratch are few and far between. Don't take away from those whom spend countless hours tweaking leaks and source, allowing us the opportunity to choose what fits our likings.
Congrats OP! Way to demotivate those who are putting in the long hours. Until you can do what the "non devs" can do, I say ZIP IT!
Q&A or not, this thread should be closed!
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Yeah I realize most devs are hard at work on JB... Like i said im not complaining cuz like one usuer said there isn't much to improve upon with this phone even with stock touchwiz... Coming from the E3d forums a new rom would pop up every week practically... but i see this is a different animal... Just cool to get everyone's opinion thats all...

Visionikz03 said:
Yeah I realize most devs are hard at work on JB... Like i said im not complaining cuz like one usuer said there isn't much to improve upon with this phone even with stock touchwiz... Coming from the E3d forums a new rom would pop up every week practically... but i see this is a different animal... Just cool to get everyone's opinion thats all...
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Well, ya kinda started a fire storm. I'm not trying to be rude, but you should've navigated through the dev forums before posting this. Not saying the replys are your fault, but some of them are low blows to those who put lots and lots of time.
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1brainsurgeon said:
Well, ya kinda started a fire storm. I'm not trying to be rude, but you should've navigated through the dev forums before posting this. Not saying the replys are your fault, but some of them are low blows to those who put lots and lots of time.
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Not to point out the obvious but, it seems like you are the only one taking offense and creating a "fire storm". It didn't read to me like he was putting anyone down but, asking an honest question. The devs we have are great. Wouldn't trade them for anything. We are lacking in quantity though. Rather have quality than quantity so I'm perfectly ok with that. I guess I'm just confused by your comments though because I was looking for the trolls and flames and didn't see anyone taking offense to his question. Either way we are all entitled to our own opinions. I agree with both of you but, not your particular attitude. *shrug*

[Q] [REQ ROM PORT] This is a CM10 plus S Pen support ROM we NEED IT!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996038
Above is the link to the 7100 ROM it looks amazing.... What does it take to make this flash-able onto our T Mobile devices... If it doesn't include a radio couldn't we just flash it? I am too scared to flash and try...its less scary to post a new thread ask you to try...haha. If a devo could shed some light or a brave soul could "test" it that would be great.

RamboDroid said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996038
Above is the link to the 7100 ROM it looks amazing.... What does it take to make this flash-able onto our T Mobile devices... If it doesn't include a radio couldn't we just flash it? I am too scared to flash and try...its less scary to post a new thread ask you to try...haha. If a devo could shed some light or a brave soul could "test" it that would be great.
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You can flash it. If you want to lose your radio. Unfortunately even if the 7100 rom does not include radio we have significant differences in our hardware that causes the radio not to work. Most likely something in the ril or kernel I believe (I could be wrong about the reasons). We dont have an AOSP kernel for the 7105 or tmo version.

Thank you sir... man, I really want that ROM. Was using XquiziT's ROM but the was having a couple problems with it and now the future for it looks bleak. (What I liked so much was the AOSP parts added in) Going to give Saurom a go now I guess.

Try cmenards stuff its very good. Or thst ptrme guy he is for real.
Stay away from animalmo and virus stuff...no good
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ssCISengineer said:
Try cmenards stuff its very good. Or thst ptrme guy he is for real.
Stay away from animalmo and virus stuff...no good
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Haha remember when "VIIRU§" tried to get donations to shake us down for a new computer? Now he's been AWOL for a week. And people got mad at me for being dubious about him :-/

brashmadcap said:
Haha remember when "VIIRU§" tried to get donations to shake us down for a new computer? Now he's been AWOL for a week. And people got mad at me for being dubious about him :-/
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I did the same exact thing!!
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brashmadcap said:
Haha remember when "VIIRU§" tried to get donations to shake us down for a new computer? Now he's been AWOL for a week. And people got mad at me for being dubious about him :-/
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WHAT ABOUT ME?! do you remeber how they treated me! I remember how they did you too and a few other guys that have a little sense. But you know what it taught me....it showed me who actually has some brains here.
Its funny how things turn around huh ? We were the hated ones!
Guess what we are now?
The anti-virus
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ssCISengineer said:
WHAT ABOUT ME?! do you remeber how they treated me! I remember how they did you too and a few other guys that have a little sense. But you know what it taught me....it showed me who actually has some brains here.
Its funny how things turn around huh ? We were the hated ones!
Guess what we are now?
The anti-virus
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Lol anti-virus that's a good one
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Boy i sure hope we get a aosp rom like that. Why is their development so far ahead of us?

The international variant always gets devs quicker than us variants. you gotta realize its available to more people than the us variant. but we will catch up dont worry

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The international variant always gets devs quicker than us variants. you gotta realize its available to more people than the us variant. but we will catch up dont worry
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I am TRUSTING you!!! Don't let me down.... LOL (Ref: "..but we will catch up..")

we need some devs solely working on what needs to be done for porting from one device to another. the fact that the ROM even functions on our device without modification should be a decent indicator of how close we are.
look in the US SGS3 section, 4 variants all with small differences and porting roms between those 4 is a piece of cake.
if someone could make a stand alone CWM.zip that we flash after a N7100 ROM that gave us back the radio it would be perfect. then we could just run any N7100 rom we wanted, no porting needed.

crazy talk said:
we need some devs solely working on what needs to be done for porting from one device to another. the fact that the ROM even functions on our device without modification should be a decent indicator of how close we are.
look in the US SGS3 section, 4 variants all with small differences and porting roms between those 4 is a piece of cake.
if someone could make a stand alone CWM.zip that we flash after a N7100 ROM that gave us back the radio it would be perfect. then we could just run any N7100 rom we wanted, no porting needed.
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well as much as i love the note 2 if we don't get any aosp love soon ill probably swap devices with my wife. at least her sg3 has cm10/aokp. again not complaining, i just hope development picks up. i was thinking about getting a nexus 4 to tide me over but i hate lg. if anything i still hope the note 2 see's android 4.2.

I am curious. I have had CM/AOKP for years with my other phones. With this one seems a lot of the features I really love are here. What do you feel is missing from TW that AOKP/CM gives you. I am not a fan of TW colors but overall it is good (and I xan theme colors away). Only thing I really miss from AOKP is the wigets popup from nav bar.

Aosp is lighter and for me runs better.

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Aosp is lighter and for me runs better.
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I would agree on most older phones....this one I have not had any slowdowns. ....that I did not cause (changing files in system causes FCs sometimes lol)
Im not saying options are bad or that I would not flash AOSP but just wondering why people feel they need it.
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Personally I really look forward to having a ROM with mass storage support. Since Google removed it from Android, I am no longer able to connect my phone to Linux for easy transfer of files and have to use all kinds of alternatives.
Not sure it can't be done on a TW based ROM, but CM/AOKP ROMs seem to more commonly introduce it like the one mentioned in this thread.
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Avatiach said:
Personally I really look forward to having a ROM with mass storage support. Since Google removed it from Android, I am no longer able to connect my phone to Linux for easy transfer of files and have to use all kinds of alternatives.
Not sure it can't be done on a TW based ROM, but CM/AOKP ROMs seem to more commonly introduce it like the one mentioned in this thread.
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I second the motion for USB mass storage functions. Maybe wi-fi direct or other technology will supersede it, but it would be nice to have the capabilities meantime.

Avatiach said:
Personally I really look forward to having a ROM with mass storage support. Since Google removed it from Android, I am no longer able to connect my phone to Linux for easy transfer of files and have to use all kinds of alternatives.
Not sure it can't be done on a TW based ROM, but CM/AOKP ROMs seem to more commonly introduce it like the one mentioned in this thread.
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This I can understand I really wish google made ums/mass storage an option. I understand why they went with ums but options are always nice.
Reasons why I think they went UMS
1) ability to keep sdcard mounted while connected to computer
2) ability to mount /sdcard on /data/media making the internal sdcard the same as the internal data memory
3) most people people use windows
4) the option to turn it on/off may confise some people.
The only one I disagree with is number 4. Stupidd people will find a way to be stupid no matter how much you coddle them.
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New Rom Ideas

I have been battling back and forth between touchwiz roms and AOSP roms. . So if any developers are looking for a new rom to make, here is my idea (yes, i know it is not a new idea and has been done on many devices). What i would like to have is the stabilty and battery life of a UVDLJA rom including touchwiz launcher, with AOSP lockscreen, inverted AOSP contacts and messenger.I don't know if its possible, but could there be options for this using aroma in the touchwiz roms?

Something I saw while working in the s2 board with my wife's phone was a rom with a touchwhiz base and the aokp rom control features added, I personally would love something like that
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TL;DR... I agree on the new rom idea lol. And I *****ed and moaned about the roms we have all in relativity are too damn close to each other. But I still respect their hard work, and praise them all as they are doing things I wish I could do.
I wish I had the knowledge and computer strong enough to do this kinda work, I would've had the rom up and running so long ago lol... I used my phone to get most of it working. building sounds and apps into a rom little things here and there just started to break I gave up.
This would be my ultimate DD never have to flash a rom again. I absolutely despise the "nature" that Samsung built in to this phone.
We have about 3 sounds mods everyone focuses on, some cameras and Keyboards people build into the rom, some awesome themes I'm extremely happy with. I would really like a TW rom with all AOSP sounds instead of the water drops and stuff. Camera from TW, LockScreen from AOSP, Notification and Status bar options from AOKP, 4.2 little things here and there as options.
Know I mean no disrespect and I do appreciate what our guys do in the Dev section.
I miss the devs that worked on those kinda things. We have great guys here (I might get [email protected] for this one) but in general they all seem to be adding the same things; Acid, Beats, Walkman music, removing other Samsung Apps while others keep them. They all leave bloat like LTETest, and LTEsettings in the /system/app folder. I could keep going and going. Know I mean no disrespect and I do appreciate them again. But where are the old roms like we used to get (mentioned above) we had some great stuff in the G2X also. We had roms that had custom lockscreens to launchers and all sorts of neat things I would've never expected. Maybe it's time I stop helping the stupids and save up and get a new computer with the power to build roms as well. (I won't release them to people though lol)

i know the exactly what you guys need
here's a preview (the MyTouch 4G Version):
of course, instead of "Senseless" it would be "TouchWizLess"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440993
give me a couple weeks to really get to know this phone (and find time...high school life w00t) and i'll see what i can do

I am in the process of developing a ROM. Nothing solid yet. I really do agree with keeping the stability and features of stock with some aosp features. At least for me I'll be a start with dev work. I have a Mac so I've already downloaded xcode and working and following dxsidia as guide. It'll take me a while since I work 10 hour shifts at the hospital and also do some website dev on the side.
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I'm glad to see people wanting to work on this. I believe it will make a great DD. It seems I'm one of the few that really like the touchwiz launcher and Widgets, but I ask you to please include that in the rom. People can easily download the other launchers from the market.

I agree, anything that is downloadable from the market should stay there. It's great that you can include something in a rom, but so can simply pressing the install button. Any thing that is already a flashable .zip (like beats) or (acId sounds mod) should stay as a flashable .zip. Just my opinion.

In the ATT galaxy S3 forums, there is a rom called nexusmod reloaded that is close to what I am referring to. Its based on ics and I don't think it has inverted apps that we like.

xallinvaynex said:
In the ATT galaxy S3 forums, there is a rom called nexusmod reloaded that is close to what I am referring to. Its based on ics and I don't think it has inverted apps that we like.
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Ya, that's pretty close to what we're talking about here. I think I flashed that rom a while back now that you point it out. I'm sure we will get something soon.

This is what I was talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32805364
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saranhai said:
i know the exactly what you guys need
here's a preview (the MyTouch 4G Version):
of course, instead of "Senseless" it would be "TouchWizLess"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440993
give me a couple weeks to really get to know this phone (and find time...high school life w00t) and i'll see what i can do
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Damn... I am 41 years old and I love electronic toys. You are making me feel very old. Well young'n, when you get a rom together let me know. I have tested for a couple of devs and understand how to run a logcat. I did a little theme work on the musty trusty HD2. I know a little bit, but run a family business plus I'm back at night school taking care of some unfinished business but I am happy to help.

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This is what I was talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32805364
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That would be nice execpt it don't have inverted AOSP lockscreen,contacts,dialer, and messenger.

xallinvaynex said:
I have been battling back and forth between touchwiz roms and AOSP roms. . So if any developers are looking for a new rom to make, here is my idea (yes, i know it is not a new idea and has been done on many devices). What i would like to have is the stabilty and battery life of a UVDLJA rom including touchwiz launcher, with AOSP lockscreen, inverted AOSP contacts and messenger.I don't know if its possible, but could there be options for this using aroma in the touchwiz roms?
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dude, you totally can.
easiest way, though, would be to disable your lockscreen and try out widget locker or something like that.
as far as the inverted apps go, i would hit up some of the guys in the themes and apps section. wouldn't take very long to whip something like that up... hell, even the lockscreen wouldn't take very long to modify.
why CM chooses to build from the source of another device is beyond me. it would be much easier to customize the layout/UI, parameters, and make it functional with the firmware meant for this thing, and you would keep all the functionality of TW.
anyways, yeah.

There is this great divide feeling as I've been playing with my new S3, and it really brings homage to the Linux scene (compare: xfce vs kde vs gnome, etc.).
Though I've settled on TouchWiz for now, there are some things I wish were an option and not "just the way it is".

I finally got kitchen working on my Mac. Got a base up and will hopefully be able to post it later. This is my plan since we be seen this throughout. People want stability of stock and those who love tw features will love this. I will be implementing aroma installer later when I get that injected. I've only built a ROM before for myself but never posted it. It'll be theme free and since it'll be stock most stock themes should work. I basically want people to do the work on their own. If they want to add volume mods like beats , they should flash it on their own . This is an experiment to get my foot out there and I'd love the support. Any name suggestions. ??
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Idk if this is possible but I always enjoyed the 7 recent apps by drop pulling the notification bar. Just my personal preference, don't really like the hold the home button to see the recent apps.

Quick question guys, how hard would it be to port a sense rom? I know if it were easy we would have a few, but just how hard is it?
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Idk if this is possible but I always enjoyed the 7 recent apps by drop pulling the notification bar. Just my personal preference, don't really like the hold the home button to see the recent apps.
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I saw something like this is the play store like 6 months ago that worked really similar. I can't remember the name
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Quick question guys, how hard would it be to port a sense rom? I know if it were easy we would have a few, but just how hard is it?
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Very very difficult from what I hear. Took big of a feat for me.
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I'd love to have a rom with the touchwiz look and all of its features that also has the features of cm10 or aokp
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I'd love to have a rom with the touchwiz look and all of its features that also has the features of cm10 or aokp
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What about using an 4.2 launcher and some status bar tweaks.
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Where are all the Devs?

I was wondering where are all the devs who created these roms and haven't updated their roms for months. Have they abandon the GS3? its seems as though either they moved on or creating AOSP or AOKP roms, which can be boring because they all look the same. I hope that they can update their roms and stay with the GS3. Seems as though there are different roms made for the AT&T GS3 that I wonder why aren't they being ported to t-mo.

Became touchwiz is filled with bloatware, it takes time to remove them all! By the time they release a new custom ROM, you would see an OTA update. So it would be better to use aokp and aosp , which is fast and stable vanilla built!
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For one thing, many have moved up to better devices now that T-Mobile has made it so much easier to so.
Besides, what is it you could want that isn't already there? You've got many to choose from, and a couple that are currently and/or are always in development.
There are some devs that release one or two Roms and focus on that. Then there's others who like to move on to something new when they get their Rom to where they want it. Just because it's no longer actively developed, doesn't mean it's not an outstanding Rom.
Imo, I think it's all pretty much been done. They're not going to keep recreating the same stuff over and over, just to make it look like more development is going on.
One last point, always remember that we are enjoying the fruits of their labor. They don't do what they do because we want them to. They do it because they enjoy it and want to share. If they decide to move on to something new, just be glad for what they did contribute. Don't be unhappy/upset/mad for what they didn't do or don't continue to do!
I didn't take your post as being angry btw, I just said that because some people do get that way.
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And I have something cute for Touch wiz coming just waiting on Dan to give the go.
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For one thing, many have moved up to better devices now that T-Mobile has made it so much easier to so.
Besides, what is it you could want that isn't already there? You've got many to choose from, and a couple that are currently and/or are always in development.
There are some devs that release one or two Roms and focus on that. Then there's others who like to move on to something new when they get their Rom to where they want it. Just because it's no longer actively developed, doesn't mean it's not an outstanding Rom.
Imo, I think it's all pretty much been done. They're not going to keep recreating the same stuff over and over, just to make it look like more development is going on.
One last point, always remember that we are enjoying the fruits of their labor. They don't do what they do because we want them to. They do it because they enjoy it and want to share. If they decide to move on to something new, just be glad for what they did contribute. Don't be unhappy/upset/mad for what they didn't do or don't continue to do!
I didn't take your post as being angry btw, I just said that because some people do get that way.
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Also, Verizon? Lol.
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And I have something cute for Touch wiz coming just waiting on Dan to give the go.
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Also, Verizon? Lol.
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Cute??!!?? Lol! Looking forward to seeing what you've got in store!
And yeah, I was testing something and keep forgetting to revert to my correct build.prop.
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Thanks gang for the heads up. You're right these roms are awesome and sometime it gets confusing on which one I should load. I do like touchwiz because its smooth and its different from all the AOSP/AOKP roms. they are fast too. I'm stuck with the GS3 for a while till I can get insurance to do the "Jump" thing. but I'm happy with my phone but its roms that I like on it. Thats why I wish that some roms that I use can get updates so I can stay with it. but its ok.
I like trying new roms out.

Many of the AT&T roms can be flashed to our devices if you didn't know. You.might need to make a few minor changes like apns and build.props, but most you can flash and they'll work. Unless something changed that I missed....
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Many of the AT&T roms can be flashed to our devices if you didn't know. You.might need to make a few minor changes like apns and build.props, but most you can flash and they'll work. Unless something changed that I missed....
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Really? wow I didn't know that. I just know that the at&t MIUI roms are usable for t-mo, but didn't know the others are. I don't know anything about apns or build props.

johnny quest said:
I was wondering where are all the devs who created these roms and haven't updated their roms for months. Have they abandon the GS3? its seems as though either they moved on or creating AOSP or AOKP roms, which can be boring because they all look the same. I hope that they can update their roms and stay with the GS3. Seems as though there are different roms made for the AT&T GS3 that I wonder why aren't they being ported to t-mo.
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AOSP ROMs look the same? Boring? Really? Have you tried an AOSP ROM such as CM or AOKP and the hundreds of themes in the PlayStore? I have used both customized Touchwiz and AOSP, each ROM has its own features. I do however miss the Touchwiz camera app when switching to AOKP, but there are other things that TW can't beat AOSP. Your choice. I truly appreciate the army of awesome devs on this forum. You guys are great!!
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AOSP ROMs look the same? Boring? Really? Have you tried an AOSP ROM such as CM or AOKP and the hundreds of themes in the PlayStore? I have used both customized Touchwiz and AOSP, each ROM has its own features. I do however miss the Touchwiz camera app when switching to AOKP, but there are other things that TW can't beat AOSP. Your choice. I truly appreciate the army of awesome devs on this forum. You guys are great!!
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Didn't mean that way. I just got the use of theming and realize with AOSP/AOKP I can do lots of theming with UCCW/ZW/WL I can make my phone look different. Once in a while I do miss touchwiz. Yeah, these devs are awesome and the work that they do.