Well I was wondering since the EVO3D's official ics port has finally landed would this be something easier to port and have fully functional compared to all the other CM9/CM10 ICS/JB roms? (Its only 300mb in size) When i say fully functional I mean everything including cameras and wimax.
Also Did anyone notice this article on the main page?http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-8mp-cameras-by-omnivision-use-universal-drivers/
Supposedly taking the ics camera drivers from the Sensation XL (or HD I guess) being it uses the same hardware as the EVO4G could get us a fully functional ics camera/camcorder?
It might be alot harder than what im making it seem, but was wondering if those who are in the "know" could enlighten me.
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Well I was wondering since the EVO3D's official ics port has finally landed would this be something easier to port and have fully functional compared to all the other CM9/CM10 ICS/JB roms? (Its only 300mb in size) When i say fully functional I mean everything including cameras and wimax.
Also Did anyone notice this article on the main page?http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-8mp-cameras-by-omnivision-use-universal-drivers/
Supposedly taking the ics camera drivers from the Sensation XL (or HD I guess) being it uses the same hardware as the EVO4G could get us a fully functional ics camera/camcorder?
It might be alot harder than what im making it seem, but was wondering if those who are in the "know" could enlighten me.
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I doubt it. One prob is the e3d is 5 mp while the EVO is 8. Idk bout other phones but maybe one with 8 will be possible. But I don't think ffc is the same camera, or is it? Idk
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Frameworks and bins aren't where the problems are - it's the kernel (mostly) and the drivers (libs, EGLs). The EVO 3D (Shooter) and EVO Design (Kingdom) don't help us there because their hardware is vastly different then ours (for the most part). Of course there are similarities, but not enough to help us get this ROM fully functioning.
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Well if the EVO Shift got an ICS update, that might actually be helpful. Not as far as FFC goes (since it doesn't have one), but as far as getting a working ICS Sense ROM. But like our ancient, EOL device, the Shift is suffering a similar fate (no official update).
But yeah, as Mazda said, EVO 3D ICS is no help. We've had the leaked ROM like, forever .
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Has anyone tried the camera drivers from the sensation or the sensation XL?
The FCC might be the same as well being they used a 1.3mp camera and it has an official ics sense update.
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hey all
i just wanted to get some of your feedback regarding the Evo 3D and the love/lack of love it will get from the development community.
I love the specs on it, but the new 3D technology and display seems like it could be hell AOSP devs to create roms for.
For example, it took nearly 9 months to get 4G fully working on CM (which i love and appreciate b/c it's been my daily driver since my G1). So i feel like the same type of delay would be in effect for all the new technology the 3D will have, such as the dual 5MP cameras.
Anyways, i could be completely off on my analysis of this.
The thing is, i would consider an upgrade to the 3D purely based off the dual core processor and other specs. But, if i can't have a functional, nice CM build for it, i honestly don't think i would go near it.
opinions?
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hey all
i just wanted to get some of your feedback regarding the Evo 3D and the love/lack of love it will get from the development community.
I love the specs on it, but the new 3D technology and display seems like it could be hell AOSP devs to create roms for.
For example, it took nearly 9 months to get 4G fully working on CM (which i love and appreciate b/c it's been my daily driver since my G1). So i feel like the same type of delay would be in effect for all the new technology the 3D will have, such as the dual 5MP cameras.
Anyways, i could be completely off on my analysis of this.
The thing is, i would consider an upgrade to the 3D purely based off the dual core processor and other specs. But, if i can't have a functional, nice CM build for it, i honestly don't think i would go near it.
opinions?
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I am certainly no developer but the existence of the Nexus S 4G should help to iron out any 4G issues that are left and make 4G available in any EVO 3D AOSP builds. AFAIK, I believe the biggest reason behind the delay in 4G for the EVO was that they basically had to build it from the ground up since they didn't have any AOSP source to modify for it.
As for the developer support, I was wondering the same. I really want the EVO 3D but I don't want to get stuck in a position like all the Epic users are with little developer and no CM support. I hate waiting but I might wait to see how much love each of the new phones gets before deciding which one to go with.
Chances are that since the Nexus is supposed to be released first and there is already a version available, that will be the phone that many people flock to. I had actually considered PM'ing a couple of my favorite developers (Toast, Flipzmode, Myn) and see what phones they were leaning toward. I think that the ease of rooting might also be a factor. If HTC and/or Samsung end up locking the phones down real tight, that might end up swaying some people one way or another.
Check out the Evo 3d forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1095
They just made it a few days ago so I don't think it shows up on the xda app yet.
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Check out the Evo 3d forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1095
They just made it a few days ago so I don't think it shows up on the xda app yet.
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Just looked at it, it looks like joeykrim and toastcfh are in which means, at the very least, the thing will probably be rooted before it's released. And if anyone can get the 3D thing figured out, TeamWin can.
Howdy All!
You probably don't know, but I am (or was until recently) the dev over at MIUI_Au. About a month ago, MIUI shipped out engineering samples of their MI-One device. All the 'third party' translation effort leaders (except, sadly, our own XJ), including me, received a unit (as well as another 500 lucky Chinese users who had to 'win' one).
So I am in possession of an MI-One, which comes with MIUI as standard (obviously).
The world of Android (and indeed XDA as a whole) wouldn't be what it is unless people had ambition.
MIUI will release the M1 eventually, and it will be priced at around half that of the Evo3D ($350 USD).
What follows seems only logical, then.
I know nothing about porting, by the way. So...the main question: Is anyone game enough to help (or rather me help anyone) with getting a head start on a port?
Cheers,
Josh.
Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
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Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
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It's funny to see how different are we all, and "vive la difference". Few days ago I tried again Sense (3.0 and 3.5), and guess what? I came back without any doubt to XJ MIUI ! That ROM really rocks.
Good luck.
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Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
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Agree, even if porting is possible drivers are a great issue. Maybe its an option to port just the rosie.apk and the framework? (just an idea, my knowledge on this subject is very limit too...)
rafaelegomezb said:
It's funny to see how different are we all, and "vive la difference". Few days ago I tried again Sense (3.0 and 3.5), and guess what? I came back without any doubt to XJ MIUI ! That ROM really rocks.
Good luck.
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Sorry to continue the off topic but I can't use anything other than AOSP.
bedobela said:
Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
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One of the major differences in this situation is that the MI-One is built with same SOC as the Evo3D/Sensation - the MSM8660. All bluetooth, wifi, gps, GPU-related, CPU-related and mmc and storage related drivers would likely be the same (or at least very similar).
It isn't like porting it to a device which has a completely different set of components.
Josh.
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Sorry to continue the off topic but I can't use anything other than AOSP.
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So am i. After a while sense starts to show its flaws. Sense is a good experience, but stock is the pure android experience ! And with launcher pro and sense clock (the sense clock is the best thing i've seen!) i've built a better experience than sense itself. This days there're widgets and launcher skins to everything. You have to face it, sense is all about the homescreen
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You have to face it, sense is all about the homescreen
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Well, not really. Acctually, I really don't like some of the new widgets. The clock, for example - I much prefer the old one which flipped faster.
But also, Sense ROMs are about proper facebook contact synching, synching with outlook and tethering that works well. All of this works out of the box, and all of it is done in style.
Anyway, it is a little off topic.
Kindly respond to the original question if you are interested, developers.
Hi,
well if MI-One same as EVO 3D/Sensation (partition layout/hw/chipset version) then there is no problem, same as HD2 and Desire...both are too different devices (windows/android) but now we have fully working android for both devices even Nexus One *AOSP* also have almost fully working Sense ROM...maybe this is wrong section for answer try Sensation/EVO 3D dev section...
Mi-One would be awesome with a sense rom imo.
coolexe said:
Hi,
well if MI-One same as EVO 3D/Sensation (partition layout/hw/chipset version) then there is no problem, same as HD2 and Desire...both are too different devices (windows/android) but now we have fully working android for both devices even Nexus One *AOSP* also have almost fully working Sense ROM...maybe this is wrong section for answer try Sensation/EVO 3D dev section...
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Fair Dibs.
You are probably right - I only posted in the Desire section out of habit. I just updated the index and went from their. Well, that, and I know that there are some very skilled developers here.
You did raise an interesting point though: While the hardware is quite similar, the partition scheme is much more complicated (with two system partitions).
Josh
2? Why?
10char
Anyway, it can be done. But without owning the device, it's impossible to test out ideas. Partition layouts are the simple part. Nothing some smart symlinking can't correct.
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MI-ONE thread
Can we vote somewhere for a xiaomi MI-ONE section on xdadev? Otherwise it's really hard to start the development on it..
heidewitzgar said:
Can we vote somewhere for a xiaomi MI-ONE section on xdadev? Otherwise it's really hard to start the development on it..
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Am from UK were would be best to buy one of these phones from?
Well the HTC Incredible S seems like they are getting Sense 3.0 according to this.
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/htc-incredible-s-to-get-official-sense-3-0-update.html
Does that mean the HTC Incredible 2 will also be getting it?
I would think we will. Unoffically we already have Sense 3.0 as well as 3.5. So Htc is a little behind our devs on the releases
No. HTC has officially said no phone older than the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D will be getting Sense 3.0. They've all been backported from phones that are qHD and higher, and they said that they won't be porting it to WVGA resolution phones.
While that Incredible S tweet is pretty surprising, it still leaves doubt in my mind whether we will get 3.0 or not.
The Desire S is older than the 3Dvo and the Sensation and it got Sense 3.0. Also, if you ask on HTC's facebook wall something along the lines of "Is the Incredible 2 getting Sense 3.0", the response is something like "We are working to bring at least parts of the new version of Sense to older devices."
They're probably making an official skyraider like update.
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Berzerker7 said:
No. HTC has officially said no phone older than the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D will be getting Sense 3.0. They've all been backported from phones that are qHD and higher, and they said that they won't be porting it to WVGA resolution phones.
While that Incredible S tweet is pretty surprising, it still leaves doubt in my mind whether we will get 3.0 or not.
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really? cuz the desire s, desire hd, and inspire 4g all phones *older* than the inc2 and running very similar if not more outdated hardware and wvga res all have it officially by ota with the last 2 months...where do you think we've been getting the sense 3 roms to port from?
now official sense 3.5 will never happen id imagine for this phone...but if the inc s gets it via ota, we will as well (probably not til 2012 though when we ll be complaining about no ics yet)
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I would think we will. Unoffically we already have Sense 3.0 as well as 3.5. So Htc is a little behind our devs on the releases
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If HTC operated in the manner things do here they'd be out of business. They're QA testing is probably pretty rigorous when it comes to updates and they can't just roll out an update with "Please let us know of any bugs!". That works for an environment like this where people are willing to work through and deal with issues but this is only a small small percentage of their market.
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If HTC operated in the manner things do here they'd be out of business. They're QA testing is probably pretty rigorous when it comes to updates and they can't just roll out an update with "Please let us know of any bugs!". That works for an environment like this where people are willing to work through and deal with issues but this is only a small small percentage of their market.
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htc is generally pretty good about updates (i really didnt think the og inc would get gb officially which it did...boads well for eventual ics sense on this phone)
with the exception of the tbolt gingerbread disaster of course
my only gripe would be that they tend treat similar devices a tad differently...we were getting a sense 2.1 ota to 2.3.4 while the desire hd and desire s had already gotten a 2.3.5 sense 3.0 ota
i guess we could put the blame on verizon for that (hey why not) but idk
I'm so, SO interested it swap my SGS2 with a One X. It looks so gorgeous.
My only concern is about the Tegra thing.
I guess how much control / development the amazing CM team will be able to obtain over the phone.
I briefly looked around and only found a port of CM9 for the OneX, while still no official.
If I'm not wrong, US saw the OneX only very recently, so perhaps it's simply too early for that.
What do you guys think about it ?
You feel like Tegra (which is nVidia, one of the most reluctanct player in the market to open up things) could be a major issue for custom developers ? Thinking of CM9 and future CM10...
Best regards
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I'm so, SO interested it swap my SGS2 with a One X. It looks so gorgeous.
My only concern is about the Tegra thing.
I guess how much control / development the amazing CM team will be able to obtain over the phone.
I briefly looked around and only found a port of CM9 for the OneX, while still no official.
If I'm not wrong, US saw the OneX only very recently, so perhaps it's simply too early for that.
What do you guys think about it ?
You feel like Tegra (which is nVidia, one of the most reluctanct player in the market to open up things) could be a major issue for custom developers ? Thinking of CM9 and future CM10...
Best regards
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I dont think its a big issue, considering the transformer prime is running CM as well.
Plus, the current inofficial CM9 build has full hardware rendering enabled already. There still some small issues with RIL which causes volume issues with the earpiece and non-functional WiFi Hotspot, but everything else works just fine so far.
Thank you for these consolidated infos !
Those made me some more confident
I don't know why it doesn't have cm9 just yet, I think HTC as already outed the sources
Been dead from the phone game a bit... so
forgive the ignorance if that is what this is, but
can http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539423 now be ported back to the EVO to get working cams and such and also to play with Sense 4.0 while I await an HTC Nexus announcement?
Circular Pastry said:
Been dead from the phone game a bit... so
forgive the ignorance if that is what this is, but
can http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539423 now be ported back to the EVO to get working cams and such and also to play with Sense 4.0 while I await an HTC Nexus announcement?
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A 3.0 Linux kernel is still needed to further progress on a sense 4 port
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Yup currently, only the_plattypus is working on a 3.0 kernel for his sense 4 rom. Im sure we would have one, but the evo is a 2+ year old device and everyone has moved onto the latest and greatest. Sense 4a should be the smoothest sense version on the evo since it only requires 512 ram and a 1 ghz processor, other than sense 1.0. I wish i knew how to build a 3.0 kernel, since i really wanted to use sense 4 and i have this phone till april next year... Im sure the evo 4g section will be pretty dead by then...
thanks for the responses! I guess we'll see what happens.
Still some life in my G1! I'm hoping someone gets it going,
or maybe I'll dig into the os more than I have in the past...
I was also wondering the same question about the Inspire 4g which has a Rom here on XDA that states everything is working including FFC http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849074. It uses the same resolution Cameras as the OG Evo. So does the Huawai Mercury which also gained ICS. There are other phones that use the same rez Camera as the OG Evo that got ICS and have been trying to find the answer if they could be ported over. I can upgrade but in comparison to my OG all other phones are lacking and found nothing worthy of my effort to change phones. Maybe the next drop in Feb will bring one but as to date they fail horribly.
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I was also wondering the same question about the Inspire 4g which has a Rom here on XDA that states everything is working including FFC http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849074. It uses the same resolution Cameras as the OG Evo. So does the Huawai Mercury which also gained ICS. There are other phones that use the same rez Camera as the OG Evo that got ICS and have been trying to find the answer if they could be ported over. I can upgrade but in comparison to my OG all other phones are lacking and found nothing worthy of my effort to change phones. Maybe the next drop in Feb will bring one but as to date they fail horribly.
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It's not about the res. It's about the drivers and kernel. New drivers need to be written from scratch as well as the 3.0 kernel.
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