Hi guys,
I've been using Cyanogenmod 7, and it was going very slow. I decided to completely wipe the phone and SD card and start from scratch with Andromadus Mimicry ROM. It is much faster I find but I still get the random slowdowns.
My biggest problems seem to be with the Facebook app, it slows down the phone incredibly. even when you exit the app, unless you force close it, the whole phone goes to a crawl.
I also find even if I uninstall the facebook app, I get lots of random slowdowns, like random times during the day I'll go to read my SMS and it takes FOREVER to load (go sms app)
any ideas?
m1k30rz said:
Hi guys,
I've been using Cyanogenmod 7, and it was going very slow. I decided to completely wipe the phone and SD card and start from scratch with Andromadus Mimicry ROM. It is much faster I find but I still get the random slowdowns.
My biggest problems seem to be with the Facebook app, it slows down the phone incredibly. even when you exit the app, unless you force close it, the whole phone goes to a crawl.
I also find even if I uninstall the facebook app, I get lots of random slowdowns, like random times during the day I'll go to read my SMS and it takes FOREVER to load (go sms app)
any ideas?
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Are your partitions ext4? Did you debug and follow the steps in the Mimicry OP?
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4EXT is paid software eh? don't really want to pay for it if I can avoid it, any other way of checking??
Wheres the debug steps?
4ext is a free custom recovery, there is an app similar to rom manager that is a paid app. if you don't want to support the developer for whatever reason your choice, but you can still flash the 4ext recoverey via fastboot or a pc10img
can you get a logcat? if your slowdowns are easily duplicated then plug phone into computer, and run a logcat through adb when you are experiancing this
*facebook apps is terrible* (so is facebook)
study the op of mimcry, search the threads for similar problems.
just an fyi - mimcry is one of the best ics roms for the vision and if you are having strange slowdowns then either a bug needs to be reported or you did something wrong
(didn't fully wipe, still in ext3, etc)
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thanks man, I tried android market and can only find a paid app called 4ext. I use clockworkmod recovery as thats what cyanogenmod 7 recommended, I have not activley done anything to setup ext4 though as there was nothing in mimcry instructions for this.
i cant easily duplicate the issue as it happens totally at random.
i fully wiped and reset to factory defaults before installing mimcry also
m1k30rz said:
thanks man, I tried android market and can only find a paid app called 4ext. I use clockworkmod recovery as thats what cyanogenmod 7 recommended, I have not activley done anything to setup ext4 though as there was nothing in mimcry instructions for this.
i cant easily duplicate the issue as it happens totally at random.
i fully wiped and reset to factory defaults before installing mimcry also
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go into tsubus' ilwt cm7 thread, there you will find a link to superwipeg2+ext4, this will wipe all and change format of everything but sd card to ext4
don't check the market for custom recoveries, you go there for apps, look for the 4ext thread in the dev section or just google it
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okay thanks for your help! i got 4ext installed and checked info, so my system partition is ext4, data and cache are ext3... sd card is fat32
so I need to wipe and redo it with ext4 for all of them?
all but sd card should be ext4
sd card should be fat32
sdext (if you have it) should be ext4
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you're great help thanks heaps.
so now I've got 4ext and i ran superwipeg2+ext4, then reinstalled my mimcry rom, just reinstalling all my apps i want now, will see how it goes
checked info and everything is now ext4 apart from sd card which is fat32. hope this makes a good difference!
damnit, no improovement still slow as fawk, just started up endomondo and signed in, now have a black screen and a crashed phone for the last 5 mins... oh wait now it loaded... grr
Please read the FAQ in the Mimicry OP. You need to find the apps causing the slowdowns and either uninstall them or wipe their data if you're restoring app data from Titanium backup.
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I am having a very hard time finding which apps are causing this, and none were restored, all were installed totally fresh from market after fresh install of the ROM.
I've read everything in the FAQ and can't seem to find any answer
m1k30rz said:
I am having a very hard time finding which apps are causing this, and none were restored, all were installed totally fresh from market after fresh install of the ROM.
I've read everything in the FAQ and can't seem to find any answer
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Install watchdog, or view wakelock use with betterbatterystats. Better yet, use logcat and grab a log of the slowdowns as they happen.
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Thanks, I am happy to get a log using logcat, do you have some basic instructions for me to do this? I already have android SDK installed, is it a matter of just running adb logcat and waiting or?
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Thanks, I am happy to get a log using logcat, do you have some basic instructions for me to do this? I already have android SDK installed, is it a matter of just running adb logcat and waiting or?
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Yep, though I would use Watchdog first to see if it alerts on any high cpu processes.
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Sounds good man, just installed watchdog and will see how it goes thanks for your advice
strangely enough watchdog has not found a single problem yet even though my phone keeps slowing down every now and then, seems to be slightly less frequent now after all the apps have settled in I guess? still certainly doing it though
also one other issue I found is a program I use called AirDroid stops working properly through its web interface if the phone locks, which I didnt have this problem on CM7
Mind if i but in, but this problem is discussed and handled well in the AOKP nik3rs rom EliteMod & EliteKernel ICS* (which I highley recommend!)
But Its seems one of the problems that can cause this is bcuz you some people still have there apps backed up from there GB rom with their account and switching to ICS rom will only install the GB forms of the app from the market its highley recommended to backup data from apps in Titanum, and Install all new apps to your account and then restore data from Titanium.
Also I have alsot noticed that in 4ext sometimes Superwipe isn't always the answer Try Using the "Format All (except SDCARD)" option in 4ext it seems to clear away alot more bugs then superwipe! hope that helps..
Also try elitemods dataswap and sdext patch if you stay on mimicry!
Thanks man might have to give that ROM a try. And once again I fully wiped and loaded the ROM and I installed each application freshly from the google play store. nothing was backed up or restored so thats not the problem
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damnit, no improovement still slow as fawk, just started up endomondo and signed in, now have a black screen and a crashed phone for the last 5 mins... oh wait now it loaded... grr
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Maybe I should have been more clear in my last post, Are you using SD-EXT? or data swap? and The way I have to flash is sometimes is after dalvike/cache ofcourse
1- Factory/data reset
2.-Then apply the zip superwipe (let it reboot)
3.-Then apply the FORMAT ALL EXCEPT SDCARD option in 4ext
....and just to note you are mounting everything before you wipe right?
Hope this can help.
And if not I would again highly recommend the EliteMod Rom its the best!!
Related
Posted this thread a couple of days ago, kinda the same issues, kinda not. Enough that I think it warrants a new thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948712
I can install/update a maximum of two apps. After that any others that were downloading simultaneously will just get stuck in that un-cancelable "installing" state. If I only downloaded/updated two apps then no others will download update until I follow my "solution" on the thread mentioned above.
Any ideas?
backup your apps with titanium, try a new rom, see if another gives you problems, if it does then restore the one you have now, if its fixed with another rom then restore your backups and enjoy a new rom
NewZJ said:
backup your apps with titanium, try a new rom, see if another gives you problems, if it does then restore the one you have now, if its fixed with another rom then restore your backups and enjoy a new rom
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I backup apps and data regularly with Titanium. I use the Stock 2.2, rooted, S-Off. "Try another rom" is not a solution.
Coupled with the issues you had on the other thread -- have you considered that you might have a problem with your SD card? If you remove the card entirely and try to install more than two or three applications, does it still occur? I think you also said something about having a large amount of programs already installed. I don't know if the large number of applications can cause any types of market issues.
FIT-Performance said:
Posted this thread a couple of days ago, kinda the same issues, kinda not. Enough that I think it warrants a new thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948712
I can install/update a maximum of two apps. After that any others that were downloading simultaneously will just get stuck in that un-cancelable "installing" state. If I only downloaded/updated two apps then no others will download update until I follow my "solution" on the thread mentioned above.
Any ideas?
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Coupled with the issues you had on the other thread -- have you considered that you might have a problem with your SD card? If you remove the card entirely and try to install more than two or three applications, does it still occur? I think you also said something about having a large amount of programs already installed. I don't know if the large number of applications can cause any types of market issues.
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SD card has been tested and tested again for errors and issues. There are none.
However you are correct about the removal of the sd card. I removed it and installed 5 apps in quick succession. All were downloading at the same time and installed without problems.
Also the issue I was having in the previous thread is back and the solution I posted no longer works.
That's really strange. I'd guess your phone doesn't like the card. Have you applied the SD card speed tweaks that have been going around? Maybe using different values may help.
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SD card has been tested and tested again for errors and issues. There are none.
However you are correct about the removal of the sd card. I removed it and installed 5 apps in quick succession. All were downloading at the same time and installed without problems.
Also the issue I was having in the previous thread is back and the solution I posted no longer works.
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Backup only the irreplaceable things from it sdcard (pics/video/music).
Try wiping it delvik cache. That helped me with installation issues.
Id also format it sdcard for safety.
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ctbenk said:
Backup only the irreplaceable things from it sdcard (pics/video/music).
Try wiping it delvik cache. That helped me with installation issues.
Id also format it sdcard for safety.
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Dalvik was wiped regularly as I was looking for a solution. Tried the backup and format earlier today as well.
Tried deleting the android.secure and no go also.
Have you tried wiping your cache, and clearing market cache and data from settings/applications?
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bcarter2000 said:
Have you tried wiping your cache, and clearing market cache and data from settings/applications?
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Several times.
What rom are you running
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If it works okay with your SD card removed, it's going to be an issue with the card, even if you haven't been able to find one otherwise. If you have another card around, try to put that one in and see if it works.
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What rom are you running
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Stock 2.2, rooted, s-off
datajosh said:
If it works okay with your SD card removed, it's going to be an issue with the card, even if you haven't been able to find one otherwise. If you have another card around, try to put that one in and see if it works.
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Going to have to buy a new one, long since lost the 8gb that came with it.
Hi,
Im running an MTD version of CleanGb for months now. I'm not sure if its 1.05 or 1.1 (the zip file on the sd card simply says CleanGB-MTD-1.zip).
Here is the problem: recently my phone has been acting up, eating battery, slowing down, etc. When I tried to power cycle it I either get stuck in a SAMSUNG reboot loop, or it goes to the CWM screen. I pulled the SD card thinking it maybe corrupt but it still took two battery pulls to get it to boot. I put the sdCard back in and have not been able to boot now.
So I'm not sure if the card is bad or something in the system is corrupt. I have not been able to load the GMAIL via the app store for a month or two now.
Anyway I was thinking of upgrading my CleanGB to see if that wipes over the issue. If I manual copy the latest 1.1.2 zip to my SD card (stick it in a PC and copy to /downloads) can I boot to CWM and do an "install from SD card? Will this wipe out my existing apps/data? I know I need to do the wipe cache/dalvik thing. I'm just no looking forward to entering all my email accounts, facebook, re-install apps,.....
Thanks
Jim M.
Only way to not keep the issues your having is to start over.
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Edit : This was a little vague sorry.
You will want to download a new ROM if you like gingerbread i will suggest the Peoples ROM 2.2 you will want the MTD version as you are already on MTD. It should be the very first link in the thread Here: The Peoples ROM. Then use this process to install it.
WARNING: This will remove all data, including apps, text messages, contacts saved to the Phone and not Google. etc. So if you are fond of these titanium backup them but for the apps only restore the apps data that are absolutely necessary.
1. Reboot to recovery, either through the power menu option or powering off and holding the camera button, volume down, and Power button until the Sammy screen appears.
2. Once in recovery Wipe Data/Factory Reset.
3. Go into mounts and storage and Format /system
4. Go into advanced and Wipe Davlik Cache
5. Install Zip from SD card, then Choose Zip from SD card.
6. Find the "The-Peoples-ROM-2.2.zip" or whatever it is called.
7. Install it
8. When its finished Hit the back and reboot system now.
Once thats done go ahead and re-setup your phone.. you shouldnt run into any problems from here on out. Typically any problems you receive is from corrupt data.
Like I said, starting over is hopefully not the only option.
I actually got the phone to boot so I'm currently making a titatnium backup of everything to have just in case. I also stuck my sdcard into my PC and copied everything off it so I'm probably going to reformat the sdcard (in the phone) and then copy everything back.
Since GMAIL seems to be the only app with issues (not being able to download an update) updating to any new ROM should overwrite it.
The question still remains, if I update from cleanGB 1.05/1.1 to the latest will everything get wiped out or will only the system files get wiped?
thanks
Jim M.
jimmarako said:
Like I said, starting over is hopefully not the only option.
I actually got the phone to boot so I'm currently making a titatnium backup of everything to have just in case. I also stuck my sdcard into my PC and copied everything off it so I'm probably going to reformat the sdcard (in the phone) and then copy everything back.
Since GMAIL seems to be the only app with issues (not being able to download an update) updating to any new ROM should overwrite it.
The question still remains, if I update from cleanGB 1.05/1.1 to the latest will everything get wiped out or will only the system files get wiped?
thanks
Jim M.
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If you want to be free from any problems.. the only way to go is to wipe clean and start fresh... but if you MUST you can wipe cache and Davlik and flash it... i dont recommend it but if you like to run into odd problems go ahead.
It's the only way to be sure otherwise you are going to waste days of chasing your bugs.
And you pressed "yes this is a question"
Guess which subforum it belongs in.
Thread moved.
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Sorry for posting in the wrong spot, I wasn't paying attention. I also see my last reply crossed paths with Uber's reply and edit update, so Uber,thanks for the info and suggestions. I've been working with computers for 30 years so I'm very familiar with the "format and re-install" option for fixing things. On the phone side I play around every 3 or 4 months so when something comes up I completely forget what I did last time, or the method has been updated 3 times.
So how do you power users handle this? I only have 47 apps installed according to app-store and if I lose my Angrybirds high score or my drawsomething count I'm not too heartbroken. But I have 3 email accounts, a dozen wi-fi networks entered, a Facebook account, A Google account, an Amazon account, ringtones, notification alerts, etc... To go back through and re-enter all this info is a real pain and takes time. I run Titanium backup but I think you can only safely restore app data, not system app data.
I've read some posts on these forums and I see people commenting "yeah i went to CM9 beta 3 last week, but came back to CleanGB for stability. I'm downloading peoples ROM right now to try for a bit but will switch to CM9 beta 4 as soon as its out". This means re-entering tons of passwords and setup info every week. Wither these guys have too much time or there is a better way.
Thanks again.
Jim M.
Use Titanium for your angry birds data. Google and Amazon are saved on their site. You can restore your wifi data to TPR from CleanGB. But you should set up your emails again because the FC09 version did not like older versions of data when I tried. Most everything else just restore apps not data. And us power users learn to delete apps we don't want and set up our emails pretty fast after the 20th wipe or so when making and testing a ROM...lol. I did CM9 clean the first time, contacts are on google anyway, and had it working pretty well in an hour then added apps as I needed them over a couple of days.
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It's a good opportunity to clean house on useless apps. I basically did the same thing Kenny did when I moved to CM9, and it's amazing how much crap you don't bother reinstalling.
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Ok so I went to MikG3.11 to give sense another try and I loved it for the most part.... But It felt like it was getting stale so I browsed around for some new roms to check out and came across an old favorite... BUT UPDATED!
And so came Decks RELOADED. Honestly, I love the changes they made and how it's all looking. However I'm having a HUGE problem getting this ROM set up. In Aroma Setup I choose my theme, then install options and I make my choices.... But upon install Nothing gets installed. Just the default apps. No Gapps, just the basics. So I tried to install Titanium and it said I could restore my old device name (Avast uses this i believe) so I let it restore.... Instant reboot and then there's no market or TB.
So then I decided to do a basic install and peruse through the ZIP and pull out the APK's I wanted and flashed. Worked perfectly. Was getting everything set up and was running out of space. So I flashed DTA2SD as basic install didn't do that for me and it rebooted as expected. Only when it finally did it's last bootup ALL my restored apps were gone and same with GO Launcher. Wtf am I doing wrong?
I have the latest Amonra and did superwipe twice as well as Factory Reset before hand. I cannot get this to install properly. I never had this many problems with original Decks 1.3d
Could you list the choices you make in Aroma? From beginning to end.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles
Yeah sure. In fact I kinda have to. I just set it up AGAIN, but this time flashed the dta2sd that came with the rom and made sure it was there. Got all my apps installed and applied my 3g turbocharger setting 5 and redid my v6 charger to see what kind of changes I would notice (Didn't apply v6 last time) and rebooted...
AGAIN all my apps are gone and it's like I just wasted 4 hours banging my head into a wall. EVERYTHING I just did is gone.
So I honestly have no idea what is going on here but I have NEVER had this much trouble with flashing a ROM before.
UPDATE: Rebooted my phone for the 3rd time now during typing this out and noticed most if not all apps restored, are showing up. However Go Launcher is not there and neither is Play Store. Will post more info once fully booted.
Please do.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles
Ok same thing. It loads some of the apps and 1/3rd (roughly) are still missing. Still no Play Store.
Decks ReLoaded 44 Mag RLS ->
Aroma Options steps and options are:
MIUI Theme (Don't know if theme is actually relevant, but I do like how MIUI looks)
Welcome screen describing origin of ROM. (Version .44 'Clyde') (Updated: may 25, 2012)
'I Agree page'
'Change Log'
Come to 'Install/Info Menu' -> 'Installation Menu'
Installation Type -> Custom
Mason-G-d15rc3-sbc FSO (Not sure if this is cause, but listing this anyway(What exactly is FSO?))
Available Apps Chosen:
AdFree
Adobe Flash Player (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Battery Calibration (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Battery Monitor (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Busybox Installer
Cache Cleaner
Catlog
CCName
Fancy Widgets
Go Launcher EX
Black Google Mobile
ICS theme
MIUIMusicV3
MX player (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Pandora
Quick Pick (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Quick Settings
SD Rescan
SD Tools
ShootMe
Speedtest
NO TB (Read that it's incomplete)
WiFi Tether
Facebook
Flipboard
Skype (Had to use this swype when I originally used Decks)
Google Maps
Gmail
Google search
Youtube
Google Voice
SuperSU (Did not use during original installation)
All themes
DTa2SD
Trying it one more time, but this time not wiping. Will post back with results. Any and all help would be very nice. Thank you
Edit: Everything appeared to install fine during install screen. Infact, says it completed. Installer Status is 0. Don't know if that's good or bad. Will post logcat if needed.
After flashing again without wiping... I notice no change at all. Same wallpaper I previously applied is still there and no changes in app drawer. I am entirely stumped. After numerous tries with many different settings, I cannot get this ROM to install correctly. Is there something I'm doing wrong or a bad download link? I think I should just go with a different ROM? :C
You're going to have to read through the thread. All of those problems that you are having have been discussed, and fixes to them have been offered.
I've been running Reloaded since it was released, and haven't felt the need to flash another ROM since.
Let's start with this. Kernel FSO means File Sharing Off (I think, can't remember completely)
I want you to redownload the Rom, back up your SD card to your computer, Partition your SD to ext3 1024 swap size 0, move everything back, Wipe everything EXCEPT SD card, flash the newly downloaded Rom, Select only the apps you need, (no need to flash tb apps already backed up) then if all goes well and you get install status 0, DO NOT reboot, and go back into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik, THEN you can reboot.
See if that works. Good luck man.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles
death-by-soap said:
Let's start with this. Kernel FSO means File Sharing Off (I think, can't remember completely)
I want you to redownload the Rom, back up your SD card to your computer, Partition your SD to ext3 1024 swap size 0, move everything back, Wipe everything EXCEPT SD card, flash the newly downloaded Rom, Select only the apps you need, (no need to flash tb apps already backed up) then if all goes well and you get install status 0, DO NOT reboot, and go back into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik, THEN you can reboot.
See if that works. Good luck man.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles
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Thank you. And thank you too poster above. I fell so hard in love with Decks 1.3d when I jumped on the AOSP train. To see this and play with it for even a minute and I'm right back in the saddle. I will try all this, I would really rather not reformat and repartition my SD card.... but If I must, I must.
I downloaded a cleaner script and following the OP WORD TO WORD. I normally never use a cleaner script as I never had a problem flashing, but I'm gonna try it out.
PS: What is the advantace/Disadvantage to FSO?
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Thank you. And thank you too poster above. I fell so hard in love with Decks 1.3d when I jumped on the AOSP train. To see this and play with it for even a minute and I'm right back in the saddle. I will try all this, I would really rather not reformat and repartition my SD card.... but If I must, I must.
I downloaded a cleaner script and following the OP WORD TO WORD. I normally never use a cleaner script as I never had a problem flashing, but I'm gonna try it out.
PS: What is the advantace/Disadvantage to FSO?
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If you aren't using smelkusMOD recovery, you should. And supposedly FSO makes it faster or something. I don't remember the exact definition or differences.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles
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If you aren't using smelkusMOD recovery, you should. And supposedly FSO makes it faster or something. I don't remember the exact definition or differences.
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That's what I meant. I'm using that recovery and I love it actually. But, the problem being is I just did a fresh download, fresh install as described.... However I didn't format my SD card.... COME ON MAN THERE MUST BE OTHER TRICKS!
32gb is ****ing LONG to back up dude.... LOL
Well with must distaste for it, I'm going to reformat my SD card. Normally go with EXT2, But I guess everybody is going with EXT3 now. Was wary because of constant access to the card, deteriorating it and whatnot, but I will give it a go.
I still have a feeling this isn't going to work. I honestly think this ROM just does not like my phone for whatever reason. I've downloaded from GOO and DEV, and no matter what install options I select in Aroma, none of them ever install. I will post back if I get it to work
Well, it seemed to do the trick! Oddly enough wiping my entire SD seemed to let Aroma do it's thing. Any idea though guys why this had hindered Aroma from functioning properly?
Proceeding to place all my apps back onto my SD card. Only the important ones though,
Well, it seemed to do the trick! Oddly enough wiping my entire SD seemed to let Aroma do it's thing. Any idea though guys why this had hindered Aroma from functioning properly?
Proceeding to place all my apps back onto my SD card. Only the important ones though,
FSO- File Synchronization Off
Speeds up SD read/write speeds
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Glad it worked. Most likely was your sd card not being set up properly
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles
When deleting info off a SD card you never really erase 100% of what you delete till you format, after weeks, months years that **** adds up and causes issues. I format or partion my SD once every 1 or 2 months.
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When deleting info off a SD card you never really erase 100% of what you delete till you format, after weeks, months years that **** adds up and causes issues. I format or partion my SD once every 1 or 2 months.
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sorry for being late OP, but i had the EXACT same problem with my latest install. fortunately it did not remove the play store so i just re downloaded and installed the apps. it is never a bad idea to keep a backup of the play store on Titanium Backup. I have had no problems since and my a2sd is working flawlessly. also, feel free to join the Deck's reloaded general discussion thread. there is a lot of good tips in the OP and there is a lot to learn there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734184
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sorry for being late OP, but i had the EXACT same problem with my latest install. fortunately it did not remove the play store so i just re downloaded and installed the apps. it is never a bad idea to keep a backup of the play store on Titanium Backup. I have had no problems since and my a2sd is working flawlessly. also, feel free to join the Deck's reloaded general discussion thread. there is a lot of good tips in the OP and there is a lot to learn there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734184
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Sorry to be off topic, but dude alaman, the mods deleted your post#4 in the general reloaded thread!!!
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Sorry to be off topic, but dude alaman, the mods deleted your post#4 in the general reloaded thread!!!
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Was thinking death by soap is actually scared and alerted a mod
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Is there an ICS (or later) ROM for DInc that is as stable and functional as CM 7.1? I am still running CM 7.1 and haven't kept up with latest developments other than that 7.1 was apparently the last "official" CM ROM.
Cm 7.2 was the latest release of cm 7.
ICS is not as stable or full featured in this device. Though my cm 10 and cm 10.1 builds have mostly everything working. (First page of incredible development)
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I've read about every 10-th page of the thread for your 10.1 ROM.
Am I correct that main issue is video camera being choppy and slowdown right after the startup? Is this pretty much it? Are there any slowdowns during the regular usage and/or app incompatibility?
Coming from CM 7.1 do I need to flash newer recovery version (I have CWM 5.0.2.0)?
I plan to do:
0) Put this file on my SD card: http://goo.im/devs/tiny4579/inc/cm10.1/cm-10.1-20130330-TINY-inc.zip - should I rename it to something else? I haven't flashed anything in a long time and if I recall correctly ROM may have to have specific file name to be flashed?
1) Backup,
2) Factory reset
3) Boot in recovery by holding "Vol Down" when turning power on
4) Format /system using CWM menu selection
5) Flash new ROM
6) Install Google Apps
Did I get this right?
If I want to get back to CM 7.1 - all I have to do is to reset to factory setting, format /system and restore from my 7.1 backup, right?
Pretty close make sure you flash the gapps in the OP of my ROM thread as they're designed for this rim on this device. Also to go back to cm 7.1 (use cm 7.2 if you're using cm7 honestly) all you have to do is restore your backup.
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tiny4579 said:
Pretty close make sure you flash the gapps in the OP of my ROM thread as they're designed for this rim on this device. Also to go back to cm 7.1 (use cm 7.2 if you're using cm7 honestly) all you have to do is restore your backup.
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Do I need to upgrade my recovery first? I currently have CWM 5,0.2.0. I just watched video where someone was installing CM 10 on DInc 2 and he said he had 6.0.1 recovery installed
JoeSchmoe007 said:
Do I need to upgrade my recovery first? I currently have CWM 5,0.2.0. I just watched video where someone was installing CM 10 on DInc 2 and he said he had 6.0.1 recovery installed
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No you don't have to.
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I'd try TWRP recovery. Way better in my opinion. Download the GooManager app and hit settings then install open recovery script.
Which is very hit or miss for most. Mostly miss. I'd flash this in HBOOT (current version of TWRP 2.5.0.0).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404464&page=18
don;t forget to install the low space fix too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351
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don;t forget to install the low space fix too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351
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Haven't tried that fix yet. That low space issue plagued me when I was on stock sense. Since I used Unrevoked to root and installed CM 7.1 (and later 7.2, 10.1, etc) I have not once had the low space issue, even with regular use. Is CM just that much better at regulating data?
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Is CM just that much better at regulating data?
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Why yes it is, thanks to CUViper and his patch at http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/9431/
PonsAsinorem said:
Why yes it is, thanks to CUViper and his patch at http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/9431/
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I see. So on stock Sense, this Data Monitor was looking for the cache on /data instead of /data/data for the Dinc? Seems like a pretty large problem that HTC overlooked.
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Haven't tried that fix yet. That low space issue plagued me when I was on stock sense. Since I used Unrevoked to root and installed CM 7.1 (and later 7.2, 10.1, etc) I have not once had the low space issue, even with regular use. Is CM just that much better at regulating data?
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i don;t know about the specifics of CM 7.x versus CM 10.x but the issue is one that manifests itself over time. obviously if you don;t run any apps that store data in the phone memory area(which is done by developers for "speed and security") then you might never run into this issue. you could easily stay under 149mb and never notice. But once you get down to less than 10-30% free, strange things start happening that only a factory reset will fix.
Some of the apps that do it are the text messaging app-this is the notorious one because everyone tends to save every text they ever receive. Others include email clients, google maps, amazon app store. the Google Playstore actually caches updates to your phone.
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i don;t know about the specifics of CM 7.x versus CM 10.x but the issue is one that manifests itself over time. obviously if you don;t run any apps that store data in the phone memory area(which is done by developers for "speed and security") then you might never run into this issue. you could easily stay under 149mb and never notice. But once you get down to less than 10-30% free, strange things start happening that only a factory reset will fix.
Some of the apps that do it are the text messaging app-this is the notorious one because everyone tends to save every text they ever receive. Others include email clients, google maps, amazon app store. the Google Playstore actually caches updates to your phone.
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Yeah, I used to save all my messages. I remember clearing some out helped with that. I use Aqua Mail. Not sure if that does it. Is there a way to tell if an app caches to /data/data? Judging by root explorer, I'm only using about 50% right now.
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Yeah, I used to save all my messages. I remember clearing some out helped with that. I use Aqua Mail. Not sure if that does it. Is there a way to tell if an app caches to /data/data? Judging by root explorer, I'm only using about 50% right now.
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Not an easy way but many apps do cache some. Easy way to clear app cache is tap cached data in storage.
The whole 10% free issues shouldn't happen with cm's /data/data monitoring and if they do a simple clear of app cache will help unless you really don't have space left.
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Haven't tried that fix yet. That low space issue plagued me when I was on stock sense. Since I used Unrevoked to root and installed CM 7.1 (and later 7.2, 10.1, etc) I have not once had the low space issue, even with regular use. Is CM just that much better at regulating data?
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Not an easy way but many apps do cache some. Easy way to clear app cache is tap cached data in storage.
The whole 10% free issues shouldn't happen with cm's /data/data monitoring and if they do a simple clear of app cache will help unless you really don't have space left.
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the problem is there is a threshold you will hit eventually where no amount of cache clearing will fix. I hit it several times and had to factory reset causing me alot time and losing my configuration. this was before I rooted the phone. this can happen if you use an app like Facebook which may cache alot of data-several megs worth.
I use Appmgr Pro to monitor my space along with DiskUsage. Fortunately since rooting and installing the updated rom and fix, i haven;t had an issue. however, sometimes i clear out 40-60 megs worth of cache data. just stuff being downloaded by the Playstore.
OK, so I know... lousy first post... But, I just want a bit of overall guidance because I think I might be doing something fundamentally wrong and I'm hoping to fix that. So first let me say thanks for all the awesome ROMS and lot of cool fixes and ideas, I always check here first and appreciate the work you guys are doing!
I have had no fear in installing ROMs, I rooted as soon as my warranty was void at verizon. I love my old DInc! But, I can only install like 20 total apps now, and I think I've done something wrong or am doing something wrong.
Here's the history of what I've been doing.
Stock, Virtuous, CM6, CM7.2, CM7.2... It was here where I started to run into the low memory. All the forms said for this I should ext4all the dalvik cache. so I grabbed that file and installed it. The memory warning went away, but things got really ugly choppy and slow with a bunch of FC's. So I decided to change things up, and went to try an ICS ROM (I think albinoman) and installed a couple times... and I didn't wipe the dalvik cache before doing this. though I did wipe the factory data and cache. After this I noticed that a lot of things remained on my phone (wifi passwords, pictures, etc... like I hadn't erased any data). Soon after finding some bugs that drove me crazy, I upgraded to a CarbonRom (Thanks zachf714!) I loved it, but it seemed like I couldn't install as much as I used to on CM7.2... and maybe I can't... But I'd run into low memory things again and again, and eventually got it down to basically google apps, facebook, and a couple podcast/radio and the essential video apps for chromecast. Well, I wanted to try kit kat out, and I had started to run out of memory again, so I went in and grabbed the new CM11 and installed it, This time I wiped dalvik, factory data, and cache before install. It was amazing like a brand new phone... Only this time 2 of my previous apps were unable to install because I had "insufficient storage available". So I pushed as much as I could to the SD card, and that still didn't help eventually it was so out of space that the launcher would crash immediately after reboot. So I tried to reinstall everything, wiped all three, installed the rom, ext4all, then GAPPS... This time facebook ran out of space before it could even install. So I went back and tried again but without the ext4all... and now facebook and google voice run out of space before I can get htem installed...
So I guess the question is, what the heck am I doing wrong in my clear? I seem to constantly be shrinking the available space on my phone for apps. I know that it's a limited thing and has been a problem for the DInc, but how do I fix this? Do I just go into the file system and start rm-rf in the file structure? I don't even have (nor can I try) to install games at this point, and I fear logging into apps in fear that I'll shrink the space even more. And by all means feel free to point me to the "installing a custom ROM, You're doing it wrong!" thread that is in front of my nose and I'm missing. I've got 5Gb of space on my SD and ~3GB of free space on the phone itself... So I'm at a loss and that's why it's acting this way, and that's why I'm asking for help. Would I be better off going back to CM7.2 or trying to keep going with the newer ROMS?
Thanks again for any help and advice you have.
OK well let me ask something differently then and maybe I can get some help. Being that I'm new I need 9 new posts before I can go to the devs page and ask there anyway...
Does anyone know what folders/files are critical to keep on the device? I can nuke the rest and try again.
Would starting with a blank SD card make difference?
Thanks again.
Well not really the external sd card is only for apps moved to sd card. You should just fully flash and start over. That is what I have had to do. I hope this helps you out.
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bluesmantj said:
OK, so I know... lousy first post... But, I just want a bit of overall guidance because I think I might be doing something fundamentally wrong and I'm hoping to fix that. So first let me say thanks for all the awesome ROMS and lot of cool fixes and ideas, I always check here first and appreciate the work you guys are doing!
I have had no fear in installing ROMs, I rooted as soon as my warranty was void at verizon. I love my old DInc! But, I can only install like 20 total apps now, and I think I've done something wrong or am doing something wrong.
Here's the history of what I've been doing.
Stock, Virtuous, CM6, CM7.2, CM7.2... It was here where I started to run into the low memory. All the forms said for this I should ext4all the dalvik cache. so I grabbed that file and installed it. The memory warning went away, but things got really ugly choppy and slow with a bunch of FC's. So I decided to change things up, and went to try an ICS ROM (I think albinoman) and installed a couple times... and I didn't wipe the dalvik cache before doing this. though I did wipe the factory data and cache. After this I noticed that a lot of things remained on my phone (wifi passwords, pictures, etc... like I hadn't erased any data). Soon after finding some bugs that drove me crazy, I upgraded to a CarbonRom (Thanks zachf714!) I loved it, but it seemed like I couldn't install as much as I used to on CM7.2... and maybe I can't... But I'd run into low memory things again and again, and eventually got it down to basically google apps, facebook, and a couple podcast/radio and the essential video apps for chromecast. Well, I wanted to try kit kat out, and I had started to run out of memory again, so I went in and grabbed the new CM11 and installed it, This time I wiped dalvik, factory data, and cache before install. It was amazing like a brand new phone... Only this time 2 of my previous apps were unable to install because I had "insufficient storage available". So I pushed as much as I could to the SD card, and that still didn't help eventually it was so out of space that the launcher would crash immediately after reboot. So I tried to reinstall everything, wiped all three, installed the rom, ext4all, then GAPPS... This time facebook ran out of space before it could even install. So I went back and tried again but without the ext4all... and now facebook and google voice run out of space before I can get htem installed...
So I guess the question is, what the heck am I doing wrong in my clear? I seem to constantly be shrinking the available space on my phone for apps. I know that it's a limited thing and has been a problem for the DInc, but how do I fix this? Do I just go into the file system and start rm-rf in the file structure? I don't even have (nor can I try) to install games at this point, and I fear logging into apps in fear that I'll shrink the space even more. And by all means feel free to point me to the "installing a custom ROM, You're doing it wrong!" thread that is in front of my nose and I'm missing. I've got 5Gb of space on my SD and ~3GB of free space on the phone itself... So I'm at a loss and that's why it's acting this way, and that's why I'm asking for help. Would I be better off going back to CM7.2 or trying to keep going with the newer ROMS?
Thanks again for any help and advice you have.
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but the idea of what is happening here is not making sence I do not get why a full wipe and full reflash would not fix your issue here if you are doing it all right.
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From terminal:
df /data/data
df /data
And tell me what they report.
The Inc has a small /data/data partition so that could be the problem. But if a full wipe doesn't fix it I don't know. Maybe the hardware is going bad but I'm not sure.
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tiny4579 said:
From terminal:
df /data/data
df /data
And tell me what they report.
The Inc has a small /data/data partition so that could be the problem. But if a full wipe doesn't fix it I don't know. Maybe the hardware is going bad but I'm not sure.
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Looks like it's time to get a new phone then huh... So What I've got free is:
/data size 748M Used 496.4M Free 251.6M
/data/data 149 118.4 and 30.6
So I guess I'm just running out of room and need to pick my apps a little more wisely then huh?
Thanks for your help!
bluesmantj said:
Looks like it's time to get a new phone then huh... So What I've got free is:
/data size 748M Used 496.4M Free 251.6M
/data/data 149 118.4 and 30.6
So I guess I'm just running out of room and need to pick my apps a little more wisely then huh?
Thanks for your help!
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Do you have chrome installed? It's an app data hog.
When /data/data fills up or gets close to doing so there start to be issues and that might be the cause of your issue.
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tiny4579 said:
Do you have chrome installed? It's an app data hog.
When /data/data fills up or gets close to doing so there start to be issues and that might be the cause of your issue.
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No I don't have chrome installed... right now all I can keep on it are 24 apps (If you want the list I'll message it to you)
I can't even get Google+ or facebook to fit anymore
bluesmantj said:
No I don't have chrome installed... right now all I can keep on it are 24 apps (If you want the list I'll message it to you)
I can't even get Google+ or facebook to fit anymore
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Can you do a factory reset from recovery (backup if you want to keep your apps for any reason) and then run the commands again? I'm curious if there's an issue with the partitions and they're not clearing. It seems weird that 24 apps would fill up 130MB of /data/data and 500MB of /data. Oh, contact storage and calls/text messages use up /data/data as well.
Sounds similar to me. I can only fit about 30 apps. Most are small but I do have chrome. I swear I had more before jumping to 4.x. That is why I was considering a datamedia build but I haven't had time lately to play with it.
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tiny4579 said:
Can you do a factory reset from recovery (backup if you want to keep your apps for any reason) and then run the commands again? I'm curious if there's an issue with the partitions and they're not clearing. It seems weird that 24 apps would fill up 130MB of /data/data and 500MB of /data. Oh, contact storage and calls/text messages use up /data/data as well.
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Sorry this took forever for me to get around to, just been short on time recently thanks again for the help!
Ok factory reset from phone complete.
into recovery
wipe dalvik
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik again (just for good measure)
install cm11
install gapps... I'll report back as issues come around.
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Sorry this took forever for me to get around to, just been short on time recently thanks again for the help!
Ok factory reset from phone complete.
into recovery
wipe dalvik
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik again (just for good measure)
install cm11
install gapps... I'll report back as issues come around.
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Well... Everything looked nice and fresh on the first go... Then one app hung on install, so I restarted the phone. When I did my old wallpaper returned, so I quickly went to check the gallery and look for the photos that should have been erased in the factory wipe... But they are all still there like nothing happened.
So even though it's currently installing apps... I have zero faith that I get through all of them before I run out of usable space again.
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Well... Everything looked nice and fresh on the first go... Then one app hung on install, so I restarted the phone. When I did my old wallpaper returned, so I quickly went to check the gallery and look for the photos that should have been erased in the factory wipe... But they are all still there like nothing happened.
So even though it's currently installing apps... I have zero faith that I get through all of them before I run out of usable space again.
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You didn't run the commands I asked you to after the factory reset and reboot.
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tiny4579 said:
You didn't run the commands I asked you to after the factory reset and reboot.
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Riiiight... those commands.... guess I just read that wrong sorry.
Right now I have
/data size 748M Used 625.2M Free 122.9M
/data/data size 149M Used 103.4M Free 45.6M
This is after all the apps restored themselves... this time though I did manage to get G+ and Facebook up, but I havent' logged into all the apps yet, so I'm assuming they stay at base size until log in (such as maps, netflix, hbogo, etc...). I did a couple things different, I am no longer syncing all the contacts from my 3 google accounts, and I eliminated an app that I probably won't use as much anymore.
I don't have time again right now to re-wipe the phone but I'll try that right after a wipe in the next couple days. Just so I don't mess up again, I should factory wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, install cm11 and gapps, but then as soon as terminal emulator loads back up run those commands to see if it actually cleared things, or should I stop all the restore from google and pull only terminal emulator for this? What's going to be the most diagnostic?
Do you think switching from clockwork recovery to TWRP make a difference? Do you have a preference in one over the other?
bluesmantj said:
Riiiight... those commands.... guess I just read that wrong sorry.
Right now I have
/data size 748M Used 625.2M Free 122.9M
/data/data size 149M Used 103.4M Free 45.6M
This is after all the apps restored themselves... this time though I did manage to get G+ and Facebook up, but I havent' logged into all the apps yet, so I'm assuming they stay at base size until log in (such as maps, netflix, hbogo, etc...). I did a couple things different, I am no longer syncing all the contacts from my 3 google accounts, and I eliminated an app that I probably won't use as much anymore.
I don't have time again right now to re-wipe the phone but I'll try that right after a wipe in the next couple days. Just so I don't mess up again, I should factory wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, install cm11 and gapps, but then as soon as terminal emulator loads back up run those commands to see if it actually cleared things, or should I stop all the restore from google and pull only terminal emulator for this? What's going to be the most diagnostic?
Do you think switching from clockwork recovery to TWRP make a difference? Do you have a preference in one over the other?
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If you're worried about that time to restore after a wipe you can take a backup and wipe and run those commands from terminal emulator before signing into google. Then after getting the needed info restore your backup.
Clockwork vs TWRP comes down to personal preference. They both implement the same recovery commands and probably also use the same exact wipe commands internally. So there's no real difference other than ui. TWRP has had some funky builds on the inc though so I recommend clockworkmod for the Inc.
Fyi factory reset clears dalvik and cache too so no need to do those separately.
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tiny4579 said:
If you're worried about that time to restore after a wipe you can take a backup and wipe and run those commands from terminal emulator before signing into google. Then after getting the needed info restore your backup.
Clockwork vs TWRP comes down to personal preference. They both implement the same recovery commands and probably also use the same exact wipe commands internally. So there's no real difference other than ui. TWRP has had some funky builds on the inc though so I recommend clockworkmod for the Inc.
Fyi factory reset clears dalvik and cache too so no need to do those separately.
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Oh cool, never thought of that, I've only ever upgraded as a result of running out of space or things slowing down so I've never really wanted to back up and restore those before.
Right... So factory wipe
install cm11/gapps
only terminal emulator installed...
/data size 748M Used 109.8M Free 638.2M
/data/data size 149M Used 29.3M Free 119.7M
Although this is a huge decrease...
connecting as USB shows that basically all of the files on the phone itself remain, so the factory reset essentially doesn't wipe any of the data from the phone?????
Thanks again!
When I did the restore, it brought back things for me, but caused a severe amount of instability and everything force quit on me. lost my launchers can't get to apps... and it keeps auto quitting google media services every 5 seconds... not sure if this is indicative of a different problem or just how precarious everything is on my device. Anyway, factory reset, and now back to the google restore...
Oh... a couple more questions.
1) when I factory restore this way it should wipe out other data like my set up wifi networks? (it doesn't)
2) what about other app data? things like my sonos app after the factor reset didn't even need to be set up again... I find this odd
bluesmantj said:
When I did the restore, it brought back things for me, but caused a severe amount of instability and everything force quit on me. lost my launchers can't get to apps... and it keeps auto quitting google media services every 5 seconds... not sure if this is indicative of a different problem or just how precarious everything is on my device. Anyway, factory reset, and now back to the google restore...
Oh... a couple more questions.
1) when I factory restore this way it should wipe out other data like my set up wifi networks? (it doesn't)
2) what about other app data? things like my sonos app after the factor reset didn't even need to be set up again... I find this odd
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If you factory reset, you should have zero apps aside from the apps built into the Rom and gapps and all your settings reset. If that's not that case something is wrong.
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tiny4579 said:
If you factory reset, you should have zero apps aside from the apps built into the Rom and gapps and all your settings reset. If that's not that case something is wrong.
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Well.. that's good to know, looks like I won't be able to just factory reset and pass the phone along when I'm done with it... Gonna have to take a hammer and giant magnet to it! Did the memory look better on the reset though?
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Well.. that's good to know, looks like I won't be able to just factory reset and pass the phone along when I'm done with it... Gonna have to take a hammer and giant magnet to it! Did the memory look better on the reset though?
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putting a magnet to a piece of flash storage does not destroy it, also from that used info it looks like it is just the data from the gapps... Try going into recovery and doing an advanced wipe, then checking everything but external sd and swiping to wipe
So it seems like we never really came to a solution here.
Has anyone tried increasing the sizes of these partitions. The /data/data only being 150mb is really limiting. Facebook likes to take 50mbs on it's own. I wondered if it would be possible to increase the storage of the internal partition and that /data/data folder. For most of us the purchasing of a large SD card for storing music and pictures and stuff is no big deal, if I could devote more of the internal storage to applications that would be awesome.