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Help w/few things

How do I move apps to my SD card so I dont need to reinstall them everytime I use a new ROM? I tried moving manually by checking move to SD but it didnt move anything...
Also, any new contacts I add are never saved in my google sync..I sync every new number to google contacts but whenever I install a new ROM they are never saved in there..whats the deal?? Are there other ways to save so this doesnt happen?
Last issue is w/ROMs...Pretty much no roms work anymore...before it was only a few that didnt work. But now none of them work. I tried the latest of 10 ROMs and some cant even load while others load and hang at the white HTC screen...The only ROM that works is MIUI...what happened all the sudden??
Now with MIUI how do I change CPU settings? I dont see any section for this like in CM7...? Anyone

Pivo187 said:
How do I move apps to my SD card so I dont need to reinstall them everytime I use a new ROM? I tried moving manually by checking move to SD but it didnt move anything...
Also, any new contacts I add are never saved in my google sync..I sync every new number to google contacts but whenever I install a new ROM they are never saved in there..whats the deal?? Are there other ways to save so this doesnt happen?
Last issue is w/ROMs...Pretty much no roms work anymore...before it was only a few that didnt work. But now none of them work. I tried the latest of 10 ROMs and some cant even load while others load and hang at the white HTC screen...The only ROM that works is MIUI...what happened all the sudden??
Now with MIUI how do I change CPU settings? I dont see any section for this like in CM7...? Anyone
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When adding a contact make sure the contact type is google and not phone.
The apps you can't take then from rom to Rom your always going to have to reinstall them
Make sure you are wiping everything except sd card. and that you ARE NOT USING CLOCKWORKMOD
MIUI you have to use setcpu it doesn't come with the option built in
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Pivo187 said:
How do I move apps to my SD card so I dont need to reinstall them everytime I use a new ROM? I tried moving manually by checking move to SD but it didnt move anything...
Also, any new contacts I add are never saved in my google sync..I sync every new number to google contacts but whenever I install a new ROM they are never saved in there..whats the deal?? Are there other ways to save so this doesnt happen?
Last issue is w/ROMs...Pretty much no roms work anymore...before it was only a few that didnt work. But now none of them work. I tried the latest of 10 ROMs and some cant even load while others load and hang at the white HTC screen...The only ROM that works is MIUI...what happened all the sudden??
Now with MIUI how do I change CPU settings? I dont see any section for this like in CM7...? Anyone
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You REALLY need to click the link in my sig and read the Evo guide. All your answers are in there

evo4gnoob-Like I said in my post I use Google every single time...But whenever I do a flash from a previous ROM where I saved several new #'s the new #'s are never saved...?? Is there a more full proof way?
So when I move them to SD card that is merely saving me space on my phones internal storage by moving it to SD storage & not a backup so I dont need to keep reinstalling?
What is wrong w/ CLOCKWORKMOD? That is what I have been using...What else is there

How do I move apps to my SD card so I dont need to reinstall them everytime I use a new ROM? I tried moving manually by checking move to SD but it didnt move anything...
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That doesn't actually move the app to the card, just the app's data, which is wiped when flashing a new rom. You need to use Titanium Backup to fully backup apps.
Like I said in my post I use Google every single time...But whenever I do a flash from a previous ROM where I saved several new #'s the new #'s are never saved...?? Is there a more full proof way?
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Login to your gmail on a computer and see if the contacts are there. If they are, then they are synced. You can also export the contacts to the sd card in the People app.
So when I move them to SD card that is merely saving me space on my phones internal storage by moving it to SD storage & not a backup so I dont need to keep reinstalling?
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Again it's not a backup, the os just moves the app's data to the card, not the app itself
What is wrong w/ CLOCKWORKMOD? That is what I have been using...What else is there
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Nothing wrong with clockwork. Some people just prefer to use AmonRA

MOST people prefer Amon Ra. CWM has a lot of limitations

Everything worked fine before...now no roms will work besides MIUI..maybe its a sign I should stick to MIUI lol...Im just worried that if miui wont load then Im screwed w/o any ROMS being able to work...

Pivo187 said:
Everything worked fine before...now no roms will work besides MIUI..maybe its a sign I should stick to MIUI lol...Im just worried that if miui wont load then Im screwed w/o any ROMS being able to work...
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This just sounds like you're not wiping fully or that your recovery isn't working properly.
Download and flash Amon Ra. There's a newer one out that I'm going to flash once my battery dies and I have to switch batteries, it's version 3.08 and not the original. Since i haven't tried it yet I can't vouch for it, but version 2.3 has served me well for a long time. The file must be named PC36IMG.zip exactly and on the root of your SD card. Boot into hboot and it'll scan, find the file, and ask you to update - do so.
Once you've flashed either version of Amon Ra, do a nandroid backup. Then go to the wipe menu and wipe cache, data, dalvik, .android_secure, SD-ext, boot and system. Wipe them again. Then flash whatever rom you want and see what happens.
If you want to save your apps and their data, use Titanium Backup. Just don't restore system data across roms, only the apps you've installed.
As for the contacts problem, double check your sync settings. You can expert your contacts to your SD card then import them if you continue to have problems. On MIUI, open the contacts app, then menu, settings, export contacts, export to SD card. You should be able to import them on another rom.
You can download Amon Ra directly from these links-
Version 3.08 here: http://db.tt/YULEfMz2
Version 2.3 here: http://db.tt/WP0beNa
Only choose one. Both are already named correctly, so don't rename the file. I've heard great things about the new one, so I'd try that one first. From what I read in the thread it can restore ClockworkMod backups, so that's a plus for you. I'd still make a backup with this recovery before wiping just in case.
Good luck, let us know how it goes!
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I used to have this problem to. After flashing amon 2.3 recovery and wiping everything accept SD card, everything was fine
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Decks 1.3d RELOADED

Ok so I went to MikG3.11 to give sense another try and I loved it for the most part.... But It felt like it was getting stale so I browsed around for some new roms to check out and came across an old favorite... BUT UPDATED!
And so came Decks RELOADED. Honestly, I love the changes they made and how it's all looking. However I'm having a HUGE problem getting this ROM set up. In Aroma Setup I choose my theme, then install options and I make my choices.... But upon install Nothing gets installed. Just the default apps. No Gapps, just the basics. So I tried to install Titanium and it said I could restore my old device name (Avast uses this i believe) so I let it restore.... Instant reboot and then there's no market or TB.
So then I decided to do a basic install and peruse through the ZIP and pull out the APK's I wanted and flashed. Worked perfectly. Was getting everything set up and was running out of space. So I flashed DTA2SD as basic install didn't do that for me and it rebooted as expected. Only when it finally did it's last bootup ALL my restored apps were gone and same with GO Launcher. Wtf am I doing wrong?
I have the latest Amonra and did superwipe twice as well as Factory Reset before hand. I cannot get this to install properly. I never had this many problems with original Decks 1.3d

Could you list the choices you make in Aroma? From beginning to end.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles

Yeah sure. In fact I kinda have to. I just set it up AGAIN, but this time flashed the dta2sd that came with the rom and made sure it was there. Got all my apps installed and applied my 3g turbocharger setting 5 and redid my v6 charger to see what kind of changes I would notice (Didn't apply v6 last time) and rebooted...
AGAIN all my apps are gone and it's like I just wasted 4 hours banging my head into a wall. EVERYTHING I just did is gone.
So I honestly have no idea what is going on here but I have NEVER had this much trouble with flashing a ROM before.
UPDATE: Rebooted my phone for the 3rd time now during typing this out and noticed most if not all apps restored, are showing up. However Go Launcher is not there and neither is Play Store. Will post more info once fully booted.

Please do.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles

Ok same thing. It loads some of the apps and 1/3rd (roughly) are still missing. Still no Play Store.
Decks ReLoaded 44 Mag RLS ->
Aroma Options steps and options are:
MIUI Theme (Don't know if theme is actually relevant, but I do like how MIUI looks)
Welcome screen describing origin of ROM. (Version .44 'Clyde') (Updated: may 25, 2012)
'I Agree page'
'Change Log'
Come to 'Install/Info Menu' -> 'Installation Menu'
Installation Type -> Custom
Mason-G-d15rc3-sbc FSO (Not sure if this is cause, but listing this anyway(What exactly is FSO?))
Available Apps Chosen:
AdFree
Adobe Flash Player (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Battery Calibration (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Battery Monitor (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Busybox Installer
Cache Cleaner
Catlog
CCName
Fancy Widgets
Go Launcher EX
Black Google Mobile
ICS theme
MIUIMusicV3
MX player (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Pandora
Quick Pick (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Quick Settings
SD Rescan
SD Tools
ShootMe
Speedtest
NO TB (Read that it's incomplete)
WiFi Tether
Facebook
Flipboard
Skype (Had to use this swype when I originally used Decks)
Google Maps
Gmail
Google search
Youtube
Google Voice
SuperSU (Did not use during original installation)
All themes
DTa2SD
Trying it one more time, but this time not wiping. Will post back with results. Any and all help would be very nice. Thank you
Edit: Everything appeared to install fine during install screen. Infact, says it completed. Installer Status is 0. Don't know if that's good or bad. Will post logcat if needed.

After flashing again without wiping... I notice no change at all. Same wallpaper I previously applied is still there and no changes in app drawer. I am entirely stumped. After numerous tries with many different settings, I cannot get this ROM to install correctly. Is there something I'm doing wrong or a bad download link? I think I should just go with a different ROM? :C

You're going to have to read through the thread. All of those problems that you are having have been discussed, and fixes to them have been offered.
I've been running Reloaded since it was released, and haven't felt the need to flash another ROM since.

Let's start with this. Kernel FSO means File Sharing Off (I think, can't remember completely)
I want you to redownload the Rom, back up your SD card to your computer, Partition your SD to ext3 1024 swap size 0, move everything back, Wipe everything EXCEPT SD card, flash the newly downloaded Rom, Select only the apps you need, (no need to flash tb apps already backed up) then if all goes well and you get install status 0, DO NOT reboot, and go back into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik, THEN you can reboot.
See if that works. Good luck man.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles

death-by-soap said:
Let's start with this. Kernel FSO means File Sharing Off (I think, can't remember completely)
I want you to redownload the Rom, back up your SD card to your computer, Partition your SD to ext3 1024 swap size 0, move everything back, Wipe everything EXCEPT SD card, flash the newly downloaded Rom, Select only the apps you need, (no need to flash tb apps already backed up) then if all goes well and you get install status 0, DO NOT reboot, and go back into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik, THEN you can reboot.
See if that works. Good luck man.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles
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Thank you. And thank you too poster above. I fell so hard in love with Decks 1.3d when I jumped on the AOSP train. To see this and play with it for even a minute and I'm right back in the saddle. I will try all this, I would really rather not reformat and repartition my SD card.... but If I must, I must.
I downloaded a cleaner script and following the OP WORD TO WORD. I normally never use a cleaner script as I never had a problem flashing, but I'm gonna try it out.
PS: What is the advantace/Disadvantage to FSO?

Naturesretard said:
Thank you. And thank you too poster above. I fell so hard in love with Decks 1.3d when I jumped on the AOSP train. To see this and play with it for even a minute and I'm right back in the saddle. I will try all this, I would really rather not reformat and repartition my SD card.... but If I must, I must.
I downloaded a cleaner script and following the OP WORD TO WORD. I normally never use a cleaner script as I never had a problem flashing, but I'm gonna try it out.
PS: What is the advantace/Disadvantage to FSO?
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If you aren't using smelkusMOD recovery, you should. And supposedly FSO makes it faster or something. I don't remember the exact definition or differences.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles

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If you aren't using smelkusMOD recovery, you should. And supposedly FSO makes it faster or something. I don't remember the exact definition or differences.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles
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That's what I meant. I'm using that recovery and I love it actually. But, the problem being is I just did a fresh download, fresh install as described.... However I didn't format my SD card.... COME ON MAN THERE MUST BE OTHER TRICKS!
32gb is ****ing LONG to back up dude.... LOL

Well with must distaste for it, I'm going to reformat my SD card. Normally go with EXT2, But I guess everybody is going with EXT3 now. Was wary because of constant access to the card, deteriorating it and whatnot, but I will give it a go.
I still have a feeling this isn't going to work. I honestly think this ROM just does not like my phone for whatever reason. I've downloaded from GOO and DEV, and no matter what install options I select in Aroma, none of them ever install. I will post back if I get it to work

Well, it seemed to do the trick! Oddly enough wiping my entire SD seemed to let Aroma do it's thing. Any idea though guys why this had hindered Aroma from functioning properly?
Proceeding to place all my apps back onto my SD card. Only the important ones though,

Well, it seemed to do the trick! Oddly enough wiping my entire SD seemed to let Aroma do it's thing. Any idea though guys why this had hindered Aroma from functioning properly?
Proceeding to place all my apps back onto my SD card. Only the important ones though,

FSO- File Synchronization Off
Speeds up SD read/write speeds
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Glad it worked. Most likely was your sd card not being set up properly
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles

When deleting info off a SD card you never really erase 100% of what you delete till you format, after weeks, months years that **** adds up and causes issues. I format or partion my SD once every 1 or 2 months.
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BigSmoke53 said:
When deleting info off a SD card you never really erase 100% of what you delete till you format, after weeks, months years that **** adds up and causes issues. I format or partion my SD once every 1 or 2 months.
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sorry for being late OP, but i had the EXACT same problem with my latest install. fortunately it did not remove the play store so i just re downloaded and installed the apps. it is never a bad idea to keep a backup of the play store on Titanium Backup. I have had no problems since and my a2sd is working flawlessly. also, feel free to join the Deck's reloaded general discussion thread. there is a lot of good tips in the OP and there is a lot to learn there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734184

alaman68 said:
sorry for being late OP, but i had the EXACT same problem with my latest install. fortunately it did not remove the play store so i just re downloaded and installed the apps. it is never a bad idea to keep a backup of the play store on Titanium Backup. I have had no problems since and my a2sd is working flawlessly. also, feel free to join the Deck's reloaded general discussion thread. there is a lot of good tips in the OP and there is a lot to learn there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734184
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Sorry to be off topic, but dude alaman, the mods deleted your post#4 in the general reloaded thread!!!

MBQsniper said:
Sorry to be off topic, but dude alaman, the mods deleted your post#4 in the general reloaded thread!!!
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Was thinking death by soap is actually scared and alerted a mod
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Very slow??

Hi guys,
I've been using Cyanogenmod 7, and it was going very slow. I decided to completely wipe the phone and SD card and start from scratch with Andromadus Mimicry ROM. It is much faster I find but I still get the random slowdowns.
My biggest problems seem to be with the Facebook app, it slows down the phone incredibly. even when you exit the app, unless you force close it, the whole phone goes to a crawl.
I also find even if I uninstall the facebook app, I get lots of random slowdowns, like random times during the day I'll go to read my SMS and it takes FOREVER to load (go sms app)
any ideas?

m1k30rz said:
Hi guys,
I've been using Cyanogenmod 7, and it was going very slow. I decided to completely wipe the phone and SD card and start from scratch with Andromadus Mimicry ROM. It is much faster I find but I still get the random slowdowns.
My biggest problems seem to be with the Facebook app, it slows down the phone incredibly. even when you exit the app, unless you force close it, the whole phone goes to a crawl.
I also find even if I uninstall the facebook app, I get lots of random slowdowns, like random times during the day I'll go to read my SMS and it takes FOREVER to load (go sms app)
any ideas?
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Are your partitions ext4? Did you debug and follow the steps in the Mimicry OP?
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4EXT is paid software eh? don't really want to pay for it if I can avoid it, any other way of checking??
Wheres the debug steps?

4ext is a free custom recovery, there is an app similar to rom manager that is a paid app. if you don't want to support the developer for whatever reason your choice, but you can still flash the 4ext recoverey via fastboot or a pc10img
can you get a logcat? if your slowdowns are easily duplicated then plug phone into computer, and run a logcat through adb when you are experiancing this
*facebook apps is terrible* (so is facebook)
study the op of mimcry, search the threads for similar problems.
just an fyi - mimcry is one of the best ics roms for the vision and if you are having strange slowdowns then either a bug needs to be reported or you did something wrong
(didn't fully wipe, still in ext3, etc)
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thanks man, I tried android market and can only find a paid app called 4ext. I use clockworkmod recovery as thats what cyanogenmod 7 recommended, I have not activley done anything to setup ext4 though as there was nothing in mimcry instructions for this.
i cant easily duplicate the issue as it happens totally at random.
i fully wiped and reset to factory defaults before installing mimcry also

m1k30rz said:
thanks man, I tried android market and can only find a paid app called 4ext. I use clockworkmod recovery as thats what cyanogenmod 7 recommended, I have not activley done anything to setup ext4 though as there was nothing in mimcry instructions for this.
i cant easily duplicate the issue as it happens totally at random.
i fully wiped and reset to factory defaults before installing mimcry also
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go into tsubus' ilwt cm7 thread, there you will find a link to superwipeg2+ext4, this will wipe all and change format of everything but sd card to ext4
don't check the market for custom recoveries, you go there for apps, look for the 4ext thread in the dev section or just google it
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okay thanks for your help! i got 4ext installed and checked info, so my system partition is ext4, data and cache are ext3... sd card is fat32
so I need to wipe and redo it with ext4 for all of them?

all but sd card should be ext4
sd card should be fat32
sdext (if you have it) should be ext4
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you're great help thanks heaps.
so now I've got 4ext and i ran superwipeg2+ext4, then reinstalled my mimcry rom, just reinstalling all my apps i want now, will see how it goes
checked info and everything is now ext4 apart from sd card which is fat32. hope this makes a good difference!

damnit, no improovement still slow as fawk, just started up endomondo and signed in, now have a black screen and a crashed phone for the last 5 mins... oh wait now it loaded... grr

Please read the FAQ in the Mimicry OP. You need to find the apps causing the slowdowns and either uninstall them or wipe their data if you're restoring app data from Titanium backup.
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I am having a very hard time finding which apps are causing this, and none were restored, all were installed totally fresh from market after fresh install of the ROM.
I've read everything in the FAQ and can't seem to find any answer

m1k30rz said:
I am having a very hard time finding which apps are causing this, and none were restored, all were installed totally fresh from market after fresh install of the ROM.
I've read everything in the FAQ and can't seem to find any answer
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Install watchdog, or view wakelock use with betterbatterystats. Better yet, use logcat and grab a log of the slowdowns as they happen.
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Thanks, I am happy to get a log using logcat, do you have some basic instructions for me to do this? I already have android SDK installed, is it a matter of just running adb logcat and waiting or?

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Thanks, I am happy to get a log using logcat, do you have some basic instructions for me to do this? I already have android SDK installed, is it a matter of just running adb logcat and waiting or?
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Yep, though I would use Watchdog first to see if it alerts on any high cpu processes.
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Sounds good man, just installed watchdog and will see how it goes thanks for your advice

strangely enough watchdog has not found a single problem yet even though my phone keeps slowing down every now and then, seems to be slightly less frequent now after all the apps have settled in I guess? still certainly doing it though
also one other issue I found is a program I use called AirDroid stops working properly through its web interface if the phone locks, which I didnt have this problem on CM7

Mind if i but in, but this problem is discussed and handled well in the AOKP nik3rs rom EliteMod & EliteKernel ICS* (which I highley recommend!)
But Its seems one of the problems that can cause this is bcuz you some people still have there apps backed up from there GB rom with their account and switching to ICS rom will only install the GB forms of the app from the market its highley recommended to backup data from apps in Titanum, and Install all new apps to your account and then restore data from Titanium.
Also I have alsot noticed that in 4ext sometimes Superwipe isn't always the answer Try Using the "Format All (except SDCARD)" option in 4ext it seems to clear away alot more bugs then superwipe! hope that helps..
Also try elitemods dataswap and sdext patch if you stay on mimicry!

Thanks man might have to give that ROM a try. And once again I fully wiped and loaded the ROM and I installed each application freshly from the google play store. nothing was backed up or restored so thats not the problem

m1k30rz said:
damnit, no improovement still slow as fawk, just started up endomondo and signed in, now have a black screen and a crashed phone for the last 5 mins... oh wait now it loaded... grr
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Maybe I should have been more clear in my last post, Are you using SD-EXT? or data swap? and The way I have to flash is sometimes is after dalvike/cache ofcourse
1- Factory/data reset
2.-Then apply the zip superwipe (let it reboot)
3.-Then apply the FORMAT ALL EXCEPT SDCARD option in 4ext
....and just to note you are mounting everything before you wipe right?
Hope this can help.
And if not I would again highly recommend the EliteMod Rom its the best!!

[Q] Insufficient Storage Available problem

OK, so I know... lousy first post... But, I just want a bit of overall guidance because I think I might be doing something fundamentally wrong and I'm hoping to fix that. So first let me say thanks for all the awesome ROMS and lot of cool fixes and ideas, I always check here first and appreciate the work you guys are doing!
I have had no fear in installing ROMs, I rooted as soon as my warranty was void at verizon. I love my old DInc! But, I can only install like 20 total apps now, and I think I've done something wrong or am doing something wrong.
Here's the history of what I've been doing.
Stock, Virtuous, CM6, CM7.2, CM7.2... It was here where I started to run into the low memory. All the forms said for this I should ext4all the dalvik cache. so I grabbed that file and installed it. The memory warning went away, but things got really ugly choppy and slow with a bunch of FC's. So I decided to change things up, and went to try an ICS ROM (I think albinoman) and installed a couple times... and I didn't wipe the dalvik cache before doing this. though I did wipe the factory data and cache. After this I noticed that a lot of things remained on my phone (wifi passwords, pictures, etc... like I hadn't erased any data). Soon after finding some bugs that drove me crazy, I upgraded to a CarbonRom (Thanks zachf714!) I loved it, but it seemed like I couldn't install as much as I used to on CM7.2... and maybe I can't... But I'd run into low memory things again and again, and eventually got it down to basically google apps, facebook, and a couple podcast/radio and the essential video apps for chromecast. Well, I wanted to try kit kat out, and I had started to run out of memory again, so I went in and grabbed the new CM11 and installed it, This time I wiped dalvik, factory data, and cache before install. It was amazing like a brand new phone... Only this time 2 of my previous apps were unable to install because I had "insufficient storage available". So I pushed as much as I could to the SD card, and that still didn't help eventually it was so out of space that the launcher would crash immediately after reboot. So I tried to reinstall everything, wiped all three, installed the rom, ext4all, then GAPPS... This time facebook ran out of space before it could even install. So I went back and tried again but without the ext4all... and now facebook and google voice run out of space before I can get htem installed...
So I guess the question is, what the heck am I doing wrong in my clear? I seem to constantly be shrinking the available space on my phone for apps. I know that it's a limited thing and has been a problem for the DInc, but how do I fix this? Do I just go into the file system and start rm-rf in the file structure? I don't even have (nor can I try) to install games at this point, and I fear logging into apps in fear that I'll shrink the space even more. And by all means feel free to point me to the "installing a custom ROM, You're doing it wrong!" thread that is in front of my nose and I'm missing. I've got 5Gb of space on my SD and ~3GB of free space on the phone itself... So I'm at a loss and that's why it's acting this way, and that's why I'm asking for help. Would I be better off going back to CM7.2 or trying to keep going with the newer ROMS?
Thanks again for any help and advice you have.

OK well let me ask something differently then and maybe I can get some help. Being that I'm new I need 9 new posts before I can go to the devs page and ask there anyway...
Does anyone know what folders/files are critical to keep on the device? I can nuke the rest and try again.
Would starting with a blank SD card make difference?
Thanks again.

Well not really the external sd card is only for apps moved to sd card. You should just fully flash and start over. That is what I have had to do. I hope this helps you out.
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bluesmantj said:
OK, so I know... lousy first post... But, I just want a bit of overall guidance because I think I might be doing something fundamentally wrong and I'm hoping to fix that. So first let me say thanks for all the awesome ROMS and lot of cool fixes and ideas, I always check here first and appreciate the work you guys are doing!
I have had no fear in installing ROMs, I rooted as soon as my warranty was void at verizon. I love my old DInc! But, I can only install like 20 total apps now, and I think I've done something wrong or am doing something wrong.
Here's the history of what I've been doing.
Stock, Virtuous, CM6, CM7.2, CM7.2... It was here where I started to run into the low memory. All the forms said for this I should ext4all the dalvik cache. so I grabbed that file and installed it. The memory warning went away, but things got really ugly choppy and slow with a bunch of FC's. So I decided to change things up, and went to try an ICS ROM (I think albinoman) and installed a couple times... and I didn't wipe the dalvik cache before doing this. though I did wipe the factory data and cache. After this I noticed that a lot of things remained on my phone (wifi passwords, pictures, etc... like I hadn't erased any data). Soon after finding some bugs that drove me crazy, I upgraded to a CarbonRom (Thanks zachf714!) I loved it, but it seemed like I couldn't install as much as I used to on CM7.2... and maybe I can't... But I'd run into low memory things again and again, and eventually got it down to basically google apps, facebook, and a couple podcast/radio and the essential video apps for chromecast. Well, I wanted to try kit kat out, and I had started to run out of memory again, so I went in and grabbed the new CM11 and installed it, This time I wiped dalvik, factory data, and cache before install. It was amazing like a brand new phone... Only this time 2 of my previous apps were unable to install because I had "insufficient storage available". So I pushed as much as I could to the SD card, and that still didn't help eventually it was so out of space that the launcher would crash immediately after reboot. So I tried to reinstall everything, wiped all three, installed the rom, ext4all, then GAPPS... This time facebook ran out of space before it could even install. So I went back and tried again but without the ext4all... and now facebook and google voice run out of space before I can get htem installed...
So I guess the question is, what the heck am I doing wrong in my clear? I seem to constantly be shrinking the available space on my phone for apps. I know that it's a limited thing and has been a problem for the DInc, but how do I fix this? Do I just go into the file system and start rm-rf in the file structure? I don't even have (nor can I try) to install games at this point, and I fear logging into apps in fear that I'll shrink the space even more. And by all means feel free to point me to the "installing a custom ROM, You're doing it wrong!" thread that is in front of my nose and I'm missing. I've got 5Gb of space on my SD and ~3GB of free space on the phone itself... So I'm at a loss and that's why it's acting this way, and that's why I'm asking for help. Would I be better off going back to CM7.2 or trying to keep going with the newer ROMS?
Thanks again for any help and advice you have.
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but the idea of what is happening here is not making sence I do not get why a full wipe and full reflash would not fix your issue here if you are doing it all right.
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From terminal:
df /data/data
df /data
And tell me what they report.
The Inc has a small /data/data partition so that could be the problem. But if a full wipe doesn't fix it I don't know. Maybe the hardware is going bad but I'm not sure.
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tiny4579 said:
From terminal:
df /data/data
df /data
And tell me what they report.
The Inc has a small /data/data partition so that could be the problem. But if a full wipe doesn't fix it I don't know. Maybe the hardware is going bad but I'm not sure.
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Looks like it's time to get a new phone then huh... So What I've got free is:
/data size 748M Used 496.4M Free 251.6M
/data/data 149 118.4 and 30.6
So I guess I'm just running out of room and need to pick my apps a little more wisely then huh?
Thanks for your help!

bluesmantj said:
Looks like it's time to get a new phone then huh... So What I've got free is:
/data size 748M Used 496.4M Free 251.6M
/data/data 149 118.4 and 30.6
So I guess I'm just running out of room and need to pick my apps a little more wisely then huh?
Thanks for your help!
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Do you have chrome installed? It's an app data hog.
When /data/data fills up or gets close to doing so there start to be issues and that might be the cause of your issue.
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tiny4579 said:
Do you have chrome installed? It's an app data hog.
When /data/data fills up or gets close to doing so there start to be issues and that might be the cause of your issue.
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No I don't have chrome installed... right now all I can keep on it are 24 apps (If you want the list I'll message it to you)
I can't even get Google+ or facebook to fit anymore

bluesmantj said:
No I don't have chrome installed... right now all I can keep on it are 24 apps (If you want the list I'll message it to you)
I can't even get Google+ or facebook to fit anymore
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Can you do a factory reset from recovery (backup if you want to keep your apps for any reason) and then run the commands again? I'm curious if there's an issue with the partitions and they're not clearing. It seems weird that 24 apps would fill up 130MB of /data/data and 500MB of /data. Oh, contact storage and calls/text messages use up /data/data as well.

Sounds similar to me. I can only fit about 30 apps. Most are small but I do have chrome. I swear I had more before jumping to 4.x. That is why I was considering a datamedia build but I haven't had time lately to play with it.
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tiny4579 said:
Can you do a factory reset from recovery (backup if you want to keep your apps for any reason) and then run the commands again? I'm curious if there's an issue with the partitions and they're not clearing. It seems weird that 24 apps would fill up 130MB of /data/data and 500MB of /data. Oh, contact storage and calls/text messages use up /data/data as well.
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Sorry this took forever for me to get around to, just been short on time recently thanks again for the help!
Ok factory reset from phone complete.
into recovery
wipe dalvik
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik again (just for good measure)
install cm11
install gapps... I'll report back as issues come around.

bluesmantj said:
Sorry this took forever for me to get around to, just been short on time recently thanks again for the help!
Ok factory reset from phone complete.
into recovery
wipe dalvik
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik again (just for good measure)
install cm11
install gapps... I'll report back as issues come around.
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Well... Everything looked nice and fresh on the first go... Then one app hung on install, so I restarted the phone. When I did my old wallpaper returned, so I quickly went to check the gallery and look for the photos that should have been erased in the factory wipe... But they are all still there like nothing happened.
So even though it's currently installing apps... I have zero faith that I get through all of them before I run out of usable space again.

bluesmantj said:
Well... Everything looked nice and fresh on the first go... Then one app hung on install, so I restarted the phone. When I did my old wallpaper returned, so I quickly went to check the gallery and look for the photos that should have been erased in the factory wipe... But they are all still there like nothing happened.
So even though it's currently installing apps... I have zero faith that I get through all of them before I run out of usable space again.
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You didn't run the commands I asked you to after the factory reset and reboot.
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You didn't run the commands I asked you to after the factory reset and reboot.
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Riiiight... those commands.... guess I just read that wrong sorry.
Right now I have
/data size 748M Used 625.2M Free 122.9M
/data/data size 149M Used 103.4M Free 45.6M
This is after all the apps restored themselves... this time though I did manage to get G+ and Facebook up, but I havent' logged into all the apps yet, so I'm assuming they stay at base size until log in (such as maps, netflix, hbogo, etc...). I did a couple things different, I am no longer syncing all the contacts from my 3 google accounts, and I eliminated an app that I probably won't use as much anymore.
I don't have time again right now to re-wipe the phone but I'll try that right after a wipe in the next couple days. Just so I don't mess up again, I should factory wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, install cm11 and gapps, but then as soon as terminal emulator loads back up run those commands to see if it actually cleared things, or should I stop all the restore from google and pull only terminal emulator for this? What's going to be the most diagnostic?
Do you think switching from clockwork recovery to TWRP make a difference? Do you have a preference in one over the other?

bluesmantj said:
Riiiight... those commands.... guess I just read that wrong sorry.
Right now I have
/data size 748M Used 625.2M Free 122.9M
/data/data size 149M Used 103.4M Free 45.6M
This is after all the apps restored themselves... this time though I did manage to get G+ and Facebook up, but I havent' logged into all the apps yet, so I'm assuming they stay at base size until log in (such as maps, netflix, hbogo, etc...). I did a couple things different, I am no longer syncing all the contacts from my 3 google accounts, and I eliminated an app that I probably won't use as much anymore.
I don't have time again right now to re-wipe the phone but I'll try that right after a wipe in the next couple days. Just so I don't mess up again, I should factory wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, install cm11 and gapps, but then as soon as terminal emulator loads back up run those commands to see if it actually cleared things, or should I stop all the restore from google and pull only terminal emulator for this? What's going to be the most diagnostic?
Do you think switching from clockwork recovery to TWRP make a difference? Do you have a preference in one over the other?
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If you're worried about that time to restore after a wipe you can take a backup and wipe and run those commands from terminal emulator before signing into google. Then after getting the needed info restore your backup.
Clockwork vs TWRP comes down to personal preference. They both implement the same recovery commands and probably also use the same exact wipe commands internally. So there's no real difference other than ui. TWRP has had some funky builds on the inc though so I recommend clockworkmod for the Inc.
Fyi factory reset clears dalvik and cache too so no need to do those separately.
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tiny4579 said:
If you're worried about that time to restore after a wipe you can take a backup and wipe and run those commands from terminal emulator before signing into google. Then after getting the needed info restore your backup.
Clockwork vs TWRP comes down to personal preference. They both implement the same recovery commands and probably also use the same exact wipe commands internally. So there's no real difference other than ui. TWRP has had some funky builds on the inc though so I recommend clockworkmod for the Inc.
Fyi factory reset clears dalvik and cache too so no need to do those separately.
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Oh cool, never thought of that, I've only ever upgraded as a result of running out of space or things slowing down so I've never really wanted to back up and restore those before.
Right... So factory wipe
install cm11/gapps
only terminal emulator installed...
/data size 748M Used 109.8M Free 638.2M
/data/data size 149M Used 29.3M Free 119.7M
Although this is a huge decrease...
connecting as USB shows that basically all of the files on the phone itself remain, so the factory reset essentially doesn't wipe any of the data from the phone?????
Thanks again!

When I did the restore, it brought back things for me, but caused a severe amount of instability and everything force quit on me. lost my launchers can't get to apps... and it keeps auto quitting google media services every 5 seconds... not sure if this is indicative of a different problem or just how precarious everything is on my device. Anyway, factory reset, and now back to the google restore...
Oh... a couple more questions.
1) when I factory restore this way it should wipe out other data like my set up wifi networks? (it doesn't)
2) what about other app data? things like my sonos app after the factor reset didn't even need to be set up again... I find this odd

bluesmantj said:
When I did the restore, it brought back things for me, but caused a severe amount of instability and everything force quit on me. lost my launchers can't get to apps... and it keeps auto quitting google media services every 5 seconds... not sure if this is indicative of a different problem or just how precarious everything is on my device. Anyway, factory reset, and now back to the google restore...
Oh... a couple more questions.
1) when I factory restore this way it should wipe out other data like my set up wifi networks? (it doesn't)
2) what about other app data? things like my sonos app after the factor reset didn't even need to be set up again... I find this odd
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If you factory reset, you should have zero apps aside from the apps built into the Rom and gapps and all your settings reset. If that's not that case something is wrong.
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If you factory reset, you should have zero apps aside from the apps built into the Rom and gapps and all your settings reset. If that's not that case something is wrong.
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Well.. that's good to know, looks like I won't be able to just factory reset and pass the phone along when I'm done with it... Gonna have to take a hammer and giant magnet to it! Did the memory look better on the reset though?

bluesmantj said:
Well.. that's good to know, looks like I won't be able to just factory reset and pass the phone along when I'm done with it... Gonna have to take a hammer and giant magnet to it! Did the memory look better on the reset though?
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putting a magnet to a piece of flash storage does not destroy it, also from that used info it looks like it is just the data from the gapps... Try going into recovery and doing an advanced wipe, then checking everything but external sd and swiping to wipe

So it seems like we never really came to a solution here.
Has anyone tried increasing the sizes of these partitions. The /data/data only being 150mb is really limiting. Facebook likes to take 50mbs on it's own. I wondered if it would be possible to increase the storage of the internal partition and that /data/data folder. For most of us the purchasing of a large SD card for storing music and pictures and stuff is no big deal, if I could devote more of the internal storage to applications that would be awesome.

Not enough storage when updating apps

Hi all,
I have a rooted phone and constantly keep storage and performance best I can using a number of apps like SD Maid, Rom toolbox, etc.
My problem is that while it is clear that that all storage from phone to external SD card have plenty of free space, I'm running into a problem when attempting to update larger apps such as games from the play store. They fail do to insufficient space.
Any suggestions as to the cause? The only info I can provide related to cause is that this seems to happen after I take HD videos with camera. However, those videos do indeed reside on external memory card which obviously has plenty of space just like both other storage options.
Any help is appreciated.

Anyone have ideas as to cause? This is actually getting worse. Thanks

Happened to an older phone of mine. Basically had to to a complete wipe and format of the system and Sdcard. Sometime theres toms of left over junk from old apps. Backup you data before you attempt .
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If you look in /data/app and /data/app-lib you'll find duplicates there (app-1 and app-2).
What i do is delete both in both folders, then reboot into recovery, wipe cache/dalvik, then boot the phone up. That should solve the issue.

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If you look in /data/app and /data/app-lib you'll find duplicates there (app-1 and app-2).
What i do is delete both in both folders, then reboot into recovery, wipe cache/dalvik, then boot the phone up. That should solve the issue.
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Hi,
Thank you much for response. Yes, you are right and this was one of two things I found on my own that fixed the issue. However, after it did not fully solve the issue, I finally ended up finding the perfect and easiest solution to this common issue. I ran a popular storage utility app and cleared all corpse files. That instantly solved the problem with every single app with this issue.
With that said, and while I do genuinely appreciate every reponse from this forum and others, replying by simply stating to backup, wipe/reset all and restore backup rom is honesty far from helpful. I knew that and would not have posted this issue if that was the only solution. Seriously, it is quite frustrating to read such nonsense. There is always a much simpler alternative and proven here. That is why most will post here for advice in the first place.
Anyways,
Thanks again.
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