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So, after years of loving my trusty HD2, I finally decided to upgrade to something new, and I've gotten myself an HTX One X+.
After doing quite a lot of reading here I *think* I have a grip on things (more or less) but would appreciate some confirmation (or, of course, please correct me if I'm wrong)...
The one x+ is pretty much the same thing as the quad core one x and as I understand it, I can...
Sim unlock using one of the many online services to get a code
Get a semi s-off from htcdev that will allow me to install clockwork recovery and custom roms
get root through either a custom rom or the method described here in the forums
And that's pretty much it until a complete s-off method is found
Does that sound about right or am I missing something?
I've spent a lot of time reading but these things are not always clear to me so I thought it safer to ask before trying anything.
Any advice or input is appreciated. thanks!
one x+ is more advanced than one x...
one x+
1.7ghz processor(upgrade from dual core chip)
(internal storage)*2 of one x(64 GB)
2100mAh battery
1.6MP front camera
one x
1.5ghz
32GB
1800mAh
1.3MP
even when u have s-on,u can install custom roms and custom recoveries.
get rooted through process described in forums.
Sounds about right.
Please check One X+ forums.
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Ever since I lost my HTC G2 I've been searching for a replacement for all my emulator gaming. I read about the Xperia Play and this sounds exactly like what I'm looking for.
- I wouldn't be using it as a phone. I've got my HTC One S for that (I'm with T-Mobile). I would only connect through WiFi.
- I would mainly use it to play emulators. I don't care too much about marketplace games that I can play on my normal phone.
- I would most likely be rooting the phone in order to erase all of the unneeded apps and free up more space. I don't know much about custom ROMs or bootloaders but I might look into that as well. Anything that would increase the phone's performance without shortening its lifespan.
My question is does it matter which model I buy? I see the R800x listed online for as low as $80, and the R800i in the $200 range. Why is the R800i so much more expensive? Does the phone need to be unlocked? Are there any flaws/hardware issues/annoyances in general that I need to know about?
Thanks for any help. I know you guys get these questions a lot but I couldn't find the specific answers I was looking for after searching.
Shouldn't matter. I'd go for the Verizon play. Around $80 on eBay and you unlock the bootloader for free. Just be aware that there are not as many choices to roms for the Verizon model. Good romz are definitely out their for the Verizon play.
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Do not buy the R800x. Lack of support roms, terrible sound quality in the speakers (missing xloud another Sony feature), missing sony stock applications (true sony experience), less users, stuck on 2.3.3 firmware, and lack of developers. Take it from who owned an R800x. Right now my r800x is spare parts for GSM xperia play. Verizon xperia play is worth less than the R800i and R800a last time i checked for verizon xperia play $60. R800i and R800a is still go over above $100.
Thanks for the input! It sounds like the R800i is the one that I should get then. Unfortunately the price is a bit high right now, I'm going to have to continue looking around until I can find one a bit cheaper. How good is the hinge on the game pad? The G2's keyboard was notoriously bad and would not stay closed.
You know, I have two version of this phone...
R800i gets stock SE experience with 2.3.4 OS, you can get max 230 RAM (Fresh instal)...
R800x gets stock vanilla GB experience with 2.3.3 OS (ugradable to 2.3.4), you can get max 270 RAM (Fresh instal)...
Cause R800x get vanilla OS, it's smoother to playing games, but you will lose SE taste...
And I have read that R800x user can unlock bootloader on sony website like R800i...
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Heres the one thing nobody mentions the differences between the R800x and R800i. You can not use any GSM GB roms on the R800x they are incompatible. The R800x will boot but you will have a black screen.
You know, I have two version of this phone...
R800i gets stock SE experience with 2.3.4 OS, you can get max 230 RAM (Fresh instal)...
R800x gets stock vanilla GB experience with 2.3.3 OS (ugradable to 2.3.4), you can get max 270 RAM (Fresh instal)...
Cause R800x get vanilla OS, it's smoother to playing games, but you will lose SE taste...
And I have read that R800x user can unlock bootloader on sony website like R800i...
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Would you recommend the R800x over the R800i from a purely gaming standpoint? What would I be missing from the stock SE?
Heres the one thing nobody mentions the differences between the R800x and R800i. You can not use any GSM GB roms on the R800x they are incompatible. The R800x will boot but you will have a black screen.
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What are GSM GB roms?
kMakoid said:
Would you recommend the R800x over the R800i from a purely gaming standpoint? What would I be missing from the stock SE?
What are GSM GB roms?
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I listed them on you lose timescape, xloud, bravia engine, custom roms, custom kernel, wifi connection on the R800x is weaker, weaker speaker sound, google servies dont work on R800x 2.3.4 firmware. List goes on and on.
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Would you recommend the R800x over the R800i from a purely gaming standpoint? What would I be missing from the stock SE?
What are GSM GB roms?
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If i JUST play game, I will stand to R800x...
But if I want better conection n optimized OS for hardware, I will stand for R800i, custom OS n more tweak is more than R800x...
GSM GB ROMs is only for GSM phone or R800i...
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If you only use it for gaming, the R800x is a great deal, better than most PMP that cost more.
You can unlock the bootloader of the R800x free from Sony website in order to flash custom kernel and roms. The R800x have less roms than the GSM version, but unless you specifically like to flash roms or want to use ICS and JB, it's not necessary since they both have poorer performance than stock/stoc-based Gingerbread roms, which by far are still the ideal choice for best performance on this device. You might to want install custom kernel to overclock though. You probably only need to root it to delete some bloatwares.
As for flaws, the screen brightness is a bit weak and sometimes barely or not visible under direct sunlight and the screen might get dirt underneath, depending on how much lints are in your jean pockets. Some people broke or worn out the flex cable (that connect between the motherboard and screen) overtime due to sliding out the gamepad too much, but I had 3 different Plays and never had the issue.
My preferred version is the ATT R800at, its compatible with the R800i roms, and after sim unlocked its compatible with T-Mobile 3G in some area.
eksasol said:
If you only use it for gaming, the R800x is a great deal, better than most PMP that cost more.
You can unlock the bootloader of the R800x free from Sony website in order to flash custom kernel and roms. The R800x have less roms than the GSM version, but unless you specifically like to flash roms or want to use ICS and JB, it's not necessary since they both have poorer performance than stock/stoc-based Gingerbread roms, which by far are still the ideal choice for best performance on this device. You might to want install custom kernel to overclock though. You probably only need to root it to delete some bloatwares.
As for flaws, the screen brightness is a bit weak and sometimes barely or not visible under direct sunlight and the screen might get dirt underneath, depending on how much lints are in your jean pockets. Some people broke or worn out the flex cable (that connect between the motherboard and screen) overtime due to sliding out the gamepad too much, but I had 3 different Plays and never had the issue.
My preferred version is the ATT R800at, its compatible with the R800i roms, and after sim unlocked its compatible with T-Mobile 3G in some area.
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I might have to check out the R800at now, I really like the blue case. Thanks for all the info!
The R800at is the version that one can't unlock the bootloader from Sony website. Though WotonServer is supposed to be able to unlock both of the sim and bootloader.
There is the new thing in US about being illegal to sim unlock carrier locked device, but if you buy it used out of contact it doesn't matter.
But even the stock rom rooted and bloatwares remove is enough if you don't plan to unlock or flash anything.
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I have the R800x and only use it for gaming.
I have a Galaxy S 3 for my smart phone and don't even have Verizon phone service. I unlocked the bootlader back when you had to pay using the test point method. Since I don't use this as my phone I don't care at all about google sync issues which only affect Android 2.3.4.
I was able to flash the ftf 2.3.4 rom and then since my bootloader is unlocked I rooted that by flashing superuser with a bootable recovery. Doom kernel test v02 works as well since I don't use my phone for cell service I don't care that doom test kernel v02 breaks 3G. As long as wifi works I am good, which it does. With that I can overclock to 2ghz if I want but the stock kernel has been fine for me for everything.
I have not noticed any issues with the speakers though I cannot compare to other models. They are better than the single speaker in my galaxy s 3 I think due to the fact the speakers are more forward(or downward) facing than a typical single speaker smartphone, though I usually use headphones anyway.
The nice thing about the Verizon version to me is Gingerbread is basically stock Android and there isn't much bloat to worry about.
If you unlock your bootloader there are a couple JB roms like slim bean and one other called zeus rom or something that work well enough and are pretty much AOSP but for compatibility the 2.3.4 rom has been great.
Due to the Verizon one being CDMA you WILL pay less for a nicer unit.
One thing to note is that there is some sort of screen protector thing that comes pre-installed (that scratches very easily, smudges easily and doesn't feel as nice as going without) and if you take that off the brightness of the display will be better. There are comparisons if you just search. It's kind of hard to tell that protector is even on there when you get it because it is installed really well.
All in all I am happy with the R800x. It is basically a super powered PSP Go with a better screen resolution. (If you don't play PSP games anyway ) It runs every emulator I can think of just fine which is what I primarily use it for in addition to games like Final Fantasy 3 or FF Dimensions (using the app GameKeyboard to map touches to the physical keys of course )
P.S. I upgraded to 2.3.4 because Final Fantasy Dimensions doesn't work on 2.3.3.
P.P.S. My Vita will replace the Xperia Play if it ever gets hacked enough. That would be a beast of a gaming machine if it was fully unlocked.
P.P.P.S If you like to chronically flash and test new ROMS the R800x is NOT for you.
So I found a listing for an R800 AT&T 4G unlocked on ebay. What does unlocked refer to in this case? Would I have any issues with the new law that just took place?
kMakoid said:
So I found a listing for an R800 AT&T 4G unlocked on ebay. What does unlocked refer to in this case? Would I have any issues with the new law that just took place?
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It is most likely mean sim unlocked. Unless the buyer specifically state bootloader unlock.
The law is really not enforceable anyway and it only apply if you buy it AT&T through a contract as I recall, even if you do no one is going to bother you.
With locked bootloader, you can root, install CWM and the NXT Lite rom for this device, its the smoothest possible experience (imo) so you don't have to worry about bootloader unlock unless you really want to.
Hi one V user.
Can i know what is the pros and cons of this phone?
I should buy this phone or incredible s?
Very good camera, good roms, cool guys here :thumbup: cons : sometimes it bricks easily, not updated by HTC, probably s off wich will force you to flash kernel via fastboot every time. All I can say is that I love my phone :thumbup:
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Very good camera, good roms, cool guys here :thumbup: cons : sometimes it bricks easily, not updated by HTC, probably s off wich will force you to flash kernel via fastboot every time. All I can say is that I love my phone :thumbup:
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If i want to use custom rom, i need to root my the phone right?
Will the warranty void?
HW224 said:
If i want to use custom rom, i need to root my the phone right?
Will the warranty void?
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yes it will void warranty
and yes you need to root
HW224 said:
If i want to use custom rom, i need to root my the phone right?
Will the warranty void?
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You will need to unlock bootloader and flash custom recovery, totally void the warranty.
It's hard to decide which one is better. One V got much better screen quality(It should be a low-grade IPS), much better camera though only with 5M pixel and 4GB rom. However, incredible S gives you 768MB ram(One V only 512MB), replaceable battery but with only 1.5GB rom(One V got 4GB). If you always play games, more ram and battery will be better. One V is more preferable for normal use without gaming.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_v-review-750p2.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_incredible_s-review-580p2.php
You can see the One V LCD is superior over incredible S. For the LCD, the One V 3.7" IPS like panel indeed beat my old SE Arc S 4.3" TN panel. I can read the text on One V more easier than on a suck 4.3" screen. I think incredible S is using 4" TN panel only.
SO guys I've finally LOST HOPE on my XPERIA S Lt26i..
I want to know are there any else people who've also LOST HOPE of a STABLE ROM for it ?
No......
U can upgrade if u wish....
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I've lost hope - at the time I bought this phone I could have got a SP for the same price. I regret this phone.
However, I don't really care about android updates now. The 12mp sensor is quite good on this phone.
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Saurav16 said:
SO guys I've finally LOST HOPE on my XPERIA S Lt26i..
I want to know are there any else people who've also LOST HOPE of a STABLE ROM for it ?
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I hate to say it but yes
There are two developers working on porting z2 firmware to our phone so I'm gonna say no... I didn't lose hope... Plus our phone is doing better than many phones which announced at the same time
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Well I've literally tried every single ROM that came by...
Most of them were so good...
But then either developer left the project or got a new phone or just stopped building for this phone... In last 2 years (quite literally the longest time I've kept a phone) I've totally enjoyed using this phone but I think it's time to move on...
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Saurav16 said:
Well I've literally tried every single ROM that came by...
Most of them were so good...
But then either developer left the project or got a new phone or just stopped building for this phone... In last 2 years (quite literally the longest time I've kept a phone) I've totally enjoyed using this phone but I think it's time to move on...
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Trinity Ultimate Rom? That was a good Rom until he abandoned it and deleted the files of his server.
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It´s getting old and it shows now.. Not top quality either, so many annoying little things, so yes!
Didn't lost hope
Still, with Sony JB (rooted), the best phone I ever had.
It's getting old as every phone does, so where's the problem. If you like to have more support on firmware you should have bought a Google phone. Didn't know that, I did at the time a bought my Sony.
I didn't expect more from a 2012 phone.. comparing to other phones released that year our Nozomi devices are quite good, we just didn't receive proper support from neither Qualcomm (abandoned our Scorpion CPUs) and Sony (1 year to upgrade to Jelly Bean with more bugs than anything and stoped support using the lack of drivers excuse).. Today we have the same as almost every mid-range phone, but with a good camera.
720p display, 12.1MPx Camera, 1750mAh Battery, dedicated camera button and the best of sony: we can use ports from newer xperia devices. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 and I can say that our Xperia S is way superior. In the SGS2 Android Development section there are almost no ports from newer Galaxy devices, only AOSP/CM ROMs. The ROMs that claims to have SGS4/SGS5 features are mostly lies and I can confirm that. I flashed some of those ROMs and the features they "ported" are just copies they made themselfs, not the actual port itself. I don't know if they don't port it because Touchwiz is crap or because they can't do it... but after all a SGS2 won't run SGS5 apks, but a Xperia S easily runs Xperia Z2 apks.
Lunatiic said:
I didn't expect more from a 2012 phone.. comparing to other phones released that year our Nozomi devices are quite good, we just didn't receive proper support from neither Qualcomm (abandoned our Scorpion CPUs) and Sony (1 year to upgrade to Jelly Bean with more bugs than anything and stoped support using the lack of drivers excuse).. Today we have the same as almost every mid-range phone, but with a good camera.
720p display, 12.1MPx Camera, 1750mAh Battery, dedicated camera button and the best of sony: we can use ports from newer xperia devices. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 and I can say that our Xperia S is way superior. In the SGS2 Android Development section there are almost no ports from newer Galaxy devices, only AOSP/CM ROMs. The ROMs that claims to have SGS4/SGS5 features are mostly lies and I can confirm that. I flashed some of those ROMs and the features they "ported" are just copies they made themselfs, not the actual port itself. I don't know if they don't port it because Touchwiz is crap or because they can't do it... but after all a SGS2 won't run SGS5 apks, but a Xperia S easily runs Xperia Z2 apks.
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can you give me a link for your kernel TX-Core Ultimate Kernel 5.9
If you just buy it recently and with the standar price i bought 2 year ago, then that's a hope to lost
I mean i stick with my Xperia S and still think it one of the best around, and if you buy it couple years ago then why lost hope? Just need a stable rom for calling and play some good game? it's still work perfectly
I's just recently start to using rom cook and the experience is more amazing so why to compare it to the new phone and lost hope ?
Just move on if you want, if you want hard enough you will find a way to get out of the *lost hope* phone :silly:
No I'm not. Try the OpenSEMC-U ROM. It's fast like hell, and stable enough for daily use. But this is the last stable and fast ROM after the offical. Our's phones has got an old SoC (Snapdragon S3). The Qualcomm has stopped developing drivers for this SoC early. I just call this SoC "Blacksheep". It has so much power inside, but without good drivers...
Szatyor said:
No I'm not. Try the OpenSEMC-U ROM. It's fast like hell, and stable enough for daily use. But this is the last stable and fast ROM after the offical. Our's phones has got an old SoC (Snapdragon S3). The Qualcomm has stopped developing drivers for this SoC early. I just call this SoC "Blacksheep". It has so much power inside, but without good drivers...
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yes i am using that only for quite some time now.... but now i am thinking of flashing the stock rom now and selling it though that would be hard for me as i was totally in love with this phone....
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Trinity Ultimate Rom? That was a good Rom until he abandoned it and deleted the files of his server.
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ya that was a good rom from a good developer...
Sorry to ask but does this thread serve any purpose?
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Hello! I've bought m8s, before I had xperia z1. This m8s phone feels laggy, animations laggy and sometimes stuck on app. So decided to ask you is there's any way to make it lighting fast? I can (unlock bootloader?) root or flash custom rom, but there's a problem, I didn't found that someone creating kernels or roms for S.. ?
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