Why arent any of the custom roms being compiled with Linaro toolchain ? I noticed a huge performance difference between non-linaro and linaro ICS builds,,,,
ranasrule said:
Why arent any of the custom roms being compiled with Linaro toolchain ? I noticed a huge performance difference between non-linaro and linaro ICS builds,,,,
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try trinity kernel, its always been compiled with the linaro toolchain.
simms22 said:
try trinity kernel, its always been compiled with the linaro toolchain.
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Need kernel and ROM to be built with linaro for the full effect. IMO.
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simms22 said:
try trinity kernel, its always been compiled with the linaro toolchain.
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no Im talking about the roms themselves
ranasrule said:
no Im talking about the roms themselves
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Source hasn't been out that long. Not an overnight thing to optimize it.
The Linaro effect isn't quite as dramatic as placebo lets on.
adrynalyne said:
The Linaro effect isn't quite as dramatic as placebo lets on.
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truth right here.
adrynalyne said:
The Linaro effect isn't quite as dramatic as placebo lets on.
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Plus 1
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Not sure why you havent built it with that chain. If you mean the other devs then maybe they dont want to. Give it a go yourself before asking others to do it for you.
zelendel said:
Not sure why you havent built it with that chain. If you mean the other devs then maybe they dont want to. Give it a go yourself before asking others to do it for you.
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bad day at the office ?
ranasrule said:
bad day at the office ?
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Nope not really. Just tired of people asking others to do something for them before they even try to do it themselves. Remember this is a Development forum ment to teach people to do things themselves instead of asking others to do it for them.
No kidding, people always asking for help with everything like this is free tech support!
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with all the new gingersense stuff coming out is anyone working on a kernal that is OC's cause the kingdom rom kinda needs it
I'm sure people are working on it... as always when something comes out, the devs here grab it and do what they want with it.. seems like a pretty rhetorical question..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8903432&postcount=4
werdna87 said:
with all the new gingersense stuff coming out is anyone working on a kernal that is OC's cause the kingdom rom kinda needs it
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+1
sense 3.0 is very nice. just a little slow for me. id really just like the lockscreen from 3.0 on a 2.0 rom
sruel3216 said:
+1
sense 3.0 is very nice. just a little slow for me. id really just like the lockscreen from 3.0 on a 2.0 rom
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i totally agree but i have noticed even a little OC on some roms makes a ton of difference on their performance
You need source code to compile a custom kernel.
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wdfowty said:
You need source code to compile a custom kernel.
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couldn't we get that from the leak?
werdna87 said:
couldn't we get that from the leak?
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A leak doesn't come with ssource code lol.
GRZLA said:
A leak doesn't come with ssource code lol.
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oh... i know nothing about this but how did we get the source code for the current kernels?
werdna87 said:
oh... i know nothing about this but how did we get the source code for the current kernels?
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HTC will release source after gingersense becomes an OTA, but its up to them when they want to post it really.
GRZLA said:
HTC will release source after gingersense becomes an OTA, but its up to them when they want to post it really.
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so then we are going to be stuck with crappy battery life for a while then and slow sense 3.0 ports... NICE
werdna87 said:
so then we are going to be stuck with crappy battery life for a while then and slow sense 3.0 ports... NICE
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Just be grateful you even have a gingersense 3.0 port to play with. Download Juice Defender if you're really that worried.
I don't think 3.0 needs overclock works fine for me very snappy if u have the patience to let it fully load
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I'm not sure what a KERNAL is. Sounds similar to a kernel Kidding . But kernels will be released over time. You don't necessarily need the source for a kernel, because you can look back to the OG Droid's FroYo leaks had hacked together kernels without any source and it was being overclocked.
Matt4542 said:
I'm not sure what a KERNAL is. Sounds similar to a kernel Kidding . But kernels will be released over time. You don't necessarily need the source for a kernel, because you can look back to the OG Droid's FroYo leaks had hacked together kernels without any source and it was being overclocked.
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haha ik i kinda fail at spelling... and i am REALLY happy with the Gingersense 3.0 but i do kinda need battery life also and have found juice defender hasn't done that much
Matt4542 said:
I'm not sure what a KERNAL is. Sounds similar to a kernel Kidding . But kernels will be released over time. You don't necessarily need the source for a kernel, because you can look back to the OG Droid's FroYo leaks had hacked together kernels without any source and it was being overclocked.
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It's probably possible to overclock with a module, like what the Droid X/2 are using. I'm no kernel hacker though, just a lowly porter
There is a tradeoff, however. If you want OC, the battery life will suffer even more than stock.
Best bet is to use SetCPU to set some profiles.
Great conversation but this thread is in the way wrong category. I really wish I was a mod...
wildstang83 said:
Great conversation but this thread is in the way wrong category. I really wish I was a mod...
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woops... sorry about that im kinda new to XDA... i thought it might have to do with development cause it has to do with kernels? idk sorry
No harm intended. Your op just came of as a question which should be in the questions section. Like I said, great topic though.
yah but it was a development related questions so...
werdna87 said:
yah but it was a development related questions so...
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But still a question. Read the link posted on the first page, and the stickies at the top of this forum.
As title.
Is it possible?
No, kernel must support this feature, but stock doesn't
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kyokeun1234 said:
No, kernel must support this feature, but stock doesn't
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel, overclocked to 1.4GHz
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bad news. are you sure that there is no way at all?
sblantipodi said:
bad news. are you sure that there is no way at all?
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Not that I know of.
sblantipodi said:
bad news. are you sure that there is no way at all?
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Not that bad. Flashing a kernel is easy as pie. Why not try it, if color control is that important to you?
sblantipodi said:
As title.
Is it possible?
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yes. build stock kernel from source, merge color control code from other kernel. it's gpl. dont claim it as your own of course, should you ever release it.
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bk201doesntexist said:
yes. build stock kernel from source, merge color control code from other kernel. it's gpl. dont claim it as your own of course, should you ever release it.
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I wouldn't call that a stock kernel any more though.
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i understood op wanted a stock kernel plus color control only. nothing else. no oc, normal gpu clock, etc. only way he can do that is to build.
but for sure, the most minimal of tweaking would consider such a kernel not stock anymore.
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Petrovski80 said:
Not that bad. Flashing a kernel is easy as pie. Why not try it, if color control is that important to you?
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Because I want a stock experince.
Custom kernel's are often made by kids, generally they have features that I dislike and I loose the Google Experince that is the
reason why I have a nexus.
sblantipodi said:
Because I want a stock experince.
Custom kernel's are often made by kids, generally they have features that I dislike and I loose the Google Experince that is the
reason why I have a nexus.
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If you feel that way, the method bk201doesntexist described is probably best for you.
btw, i dont feel that way. i think op is mistaken, and in fact being ungrateful.
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I like custom kernels. If glados is made by a child, Ezekeel must be a really smart one.
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sblantipodi said:
Because I want a stock experince.
Custom kernel's are often made by kids, generally they have features that I dislike and I loose the Google Experince that is the
reason why I have a nexus.
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This is a pure asinine statement. If you want Google experience then leave it completely stock. Adding color controls makes it not the Google experience any longer.
Not to mention you are badmouthing every hard working dev out there.
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I've read that roms with linaro are faster. Are roms that are built with the linaro toolchain actually faster? Does it have any noticeable effect, or is it just like a placebo thing?
Thanks~
I'm on a linaro based coming from a non linaro base, and I think it feels faster and smoother... Could be placebo though. I'm actually going to take the next 30 minutes to read up on it. I'll be back.
Consensus is, no it not placebo, I've yet to come across any thing that is detrimental evidnece (I don't consider most of the benchmarks to be evidence) But I read about 6 pages and all gave info on how it compilies faster and helps the CPU act and process things faster. I'm noticing a little difference, but nothing to make you, mess (poo) your self.
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I'm interested to give the new illusion ROM a try since it will be based on linaro. What ROM are you on mt3g?
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lol
Ok
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The rom you are going to run, I test for Ramsay.
mt3g said:
The rom you are going to run, I test for Ramsay.
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Duh
My bad. Good to hear good things about it. Anxiously awaiting the release. Thanks
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Ya, they are waiting to make sure it is 100& the way they want it before a release. Some good stuff is in the works for sure though.
CodyRst said:
I've read that roms with linaro are faster. Are roms that are built with the linaro toolchain actually faster? Does it have any noticeable effect, or is it just like a placebo thing?
Thanks~
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Back when I was working on aospX with existz, we used the linaro toolchain (and then migrated to his custom toolchain based on linaro, because the most recent linaro toolchain at the time was a little buggy) and it made somewhat of a difference in things like scrolling and stuff like that... But that was for gcc-4.6. I have yet to try building with the recent linaro-4.7 for aokpX as I haven't really had the time, but existz says that performance with the latest android gcc-4.7 toolchain is about on-par with the linaro one so we've been sticking with the one from aosp.
Although, I think its up to the end-user to decide if the improvements are really there. The way I see it is.. if your device feels smoother to you with a linaro-compiled build/kernel, then what anyone else thinks about the toolchain shouldn't matter.
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What Does It Mean To Be Linaro Optimized? Is it the Settings added? or is there internals swapped out?
KShion619 said:
What Does It Mean To Be Linaro Optimized? Is it the Settings added? or is there internals swapped out?
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it use a 'modded' compiler to build firmware
like use C++ or an "C+++"
supposed ainrete
What are the benefits?
rjd0717 said:
What are the benefits?
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Smoother. Faster. Better
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Alrighty, Now im Moving from Offical CM Nighties to Linaro Nightlies thanks guys!
Esteway.619 said:
Smoother. Faster. Better
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What about battery life?
rjd0717 said:
What about battery life?
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Linaro seems to be more efficient on battery, but dont quote me on this. "Efficient" is my word here.
I guess some of you have a passion for seeing -O3 on your compiler version.
a manta wrote this.
Could someone explain it to me
linaro is just a different way of compiling roms etc.. and is supposed to be way faster than usual way its built just still same bugs if any at all my 2cents
Why do certain users freak when they see linaro built roms? (You know who I mean....LOL
Are there benefits for end users, or are the HUGE fans of linaro roms imagining themselves some performance gains? LOL
Been curious about this since I saw the word linaro in rom titles. And if it has no impact on the roms performance, then why put linaro in rom titles??
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LOL i know who ha!
krazierokz said:
LOL i know who ha!
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Yes....he's quite excited about whatever rom he's on that particular week. Or day. Lol
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kj2112 said:
Yes....he's quite excited about whatever rom he's on that particular week. Or day. Lol
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Yeah man for sure. And he's quite fond of his face palm photos.
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JesusWazBlack said:
Could someone explain it to me
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Linaro is a toolchain used to compile roms, ur PC uses this to take all the necessary files and puts them all together into what u know as a ROM, default is usually a arm-eabi toolchain, linaro is said to make the ROM smoother and faster than the default toolchain thus being more preferred
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soupysoup said:
Linaro is a toolchain used to compile roms, ur PC uses this to take all the necessary files and puts them all together into what u know as a ROM, default is usually a arm-eabi toolchain, linaro is said to make the ROM smoother and faster than the default toolchain thus being more preferred
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2 months late soupy :/
JesusWazBlack said:
2 months late soupy :/
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it's never too late to help someone out, but from what I understand linaro is a faster and more efficient way of compiling a ROM. I see no difference from a that is compiled using the linaro method and the normal method. It just makes it alot easier on devs.
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JesusWazBlack said:
2 months late soupy :/
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Haha shows how much I look at the dates on here huh lol
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