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[Q] Charging Cable

This is probably a dumb question but what kind of USB cable would I buy if I wanted an extra charging cable. I don't know what the phone side of the cable is called (USB mini ?) I know it is slightly different than my camera but really close.

u can use ur old vibrant one if u have one thats what i did for extra

pairustwo said:
This is probably a dumb question but what kind of USB cable would I buy if I wanted an extra charging cable. I don't know what the phone side of the cable is called (USB mini ?) I know it is slightly different than my camera but really close.
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Any Micro-USB cable will do.

Kawaisa said:
Any Micro-USB cable will do.
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Just be sure you know what you are buying. Some will be charge only cables, which means they can't be used as a USB to transfer data.
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Towle said:
Just be sure you know what you are buying. Some will be charge only cables, which means they can't be used as a USB to transfer data.
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Ahh. Now I see why my camera cable wouldn't fit. I didn't think there would be another form factor that was so similar. (But then again the 2nd gen Kindle has it's own form factor USB port)
I don't think my camera is charge only but it does have a block where some of the pins would go and so won't fit the Hercules.

Goto monoprice.com. Order a crapload of them of varying lengths. Get ones with ferrit cores if you want, but not necessary. They might help with data integrity of data transfers. I find that they get in the way. But monoprice has inexpensive cables of high quality. Almost all around a buck. Fast delivery too.
If you are looking for usb power bricks, make sure they are 5 volt outputs. Do not skimp here as this could hose your phone if cheap electronics send bad voltage to your phone.
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PorchSong said:
Goto monoprice.com. Order a crapload of them of varying lengths. Get ones with ferris's but not necessary. They might help with data integrity of data transfers. I find that they get in the way. But monoprice has inexpensive cables of high quality. Almost all around a buck. Fast delivery too.
If you are looking for usb power bricks, make sure they are 5 volt outputs. Do not skimp here as this could hose your phone if cheap electronics send bad voltage to your phone.
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There is no such thing as "bad voltage." All USB chargers are approx 5V but if it were a bad charger and was outputting 12volts or 1volt the phones charging circuity will handle it and either not charge at all or adjust accordingly. Bottom line is ANY USB charger will work (or not) but chances of it damaging the phone unless it was hitting it with 120VAC are very slim.

Lol this thread is probably making it more complicated for you. Just go on Ebay and search for micro USB cable and make sure it says charge/data. Most will have a phone manufacturer name in the title (HTC Samsung Motorola etc.) Any of them will work.
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MisterEdF said:
There is no such thing as "bad voltage." All USB chargers are approx 5V but if it were a bad charger and was outputting 12volts or 1volt the phones charging circuity will handle it and either not charge at all or adjust accordingly. Bottom line is ANY USB charger will work (or not) but chances of it damaging the phone unless it was hitting it with 120VAC are very slim.
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Yeah, I've been using my iPad charger for the phone quite a bit. Works great. I'm set on chargers I just need more cables.

Longer MicroUSB charging cable

The microUSB cable is too short, and need a longer one. Will any of the long ones that pop up on ebay work fine or does it need to be a specific type of cable or something.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-long-Mic...Accessories&hash=item231ed566ca#ht_2678wt_958
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cellet-8ft-...Accessories&hash=item48461ce9f3#ht_1700wt_952
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-long-Mic...Accessories&hash=item231fb19fec#ht_2697wt_958
etc

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5460&seq=1&format=2
Cheap and quality! Especially for 15ft. They have smaller lengths if that's too long for you....

art0605 said:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5460&seq=1&format=2
Cheap and quality! Especially for 15ft. They have smaller lengths if that's too long for you....
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Wow that's a great find.
Working well for you I assume?
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fergie716 said:
Wow that's a great find.
Working well for you I assume?
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Absolutely! I got the 6ft ones with ferrite cores. But I am sure the 15ft ones are the same thing.

Longer cable cause greater power loss
i bought a kindle3 last year, and the cable is very long. When i use it to connect my phone to USB port on laptop, my phone can't be recognized

The one that came with the phone was to long for me. I switched to the one that came with my one x. I use the one x charger to it looks better made
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bigdipper said:
Longer cable cause greater power loss
i bought a kindle3 last year, and the cable is very long. When i use it to connect my phone to USB port on laptop, my phone can't be recognized
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That is just a faulty cable.

Perhaps you can use an existing USB cable?
I've plenty of these from my past units - I find Nokia cables very well made
My N8 USB cable have locking clasps at the micro-USB side and works pretty well for fast charging
For longer cable needs I bring with me the charging cable of my Logitech K800 wireless keyboard
Great quality USB cable for charging and connecting to KIES or just plain transferring files

I have one white original for my kindle, but using it with gs3 charger, as it's twice as long...
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I always look to monoprice.com for cables. You are guaranteed to get a high quality cable. You can get one shipped for maybe $1 more than those ebay cables.

Huge +1000 on Monoprice cables. They also have USB AC & Car power adapters. Super easy to stock up on extra cables & chargers.

Beknatok said:
Huge +1000 on Monoprice cables. They also have USB AC & Car power adapters. Super easy to stock up on extra cables & chargers.
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Never heard of Monoprice, I'll check them out. thanks

can you guys get the monoprice cables to work with the AC adapter?

actng said:
can you guys get the monoprice cables to work with the AC adapter?
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That's the whole point, to make the cable that came with the charger longer. That way one can lay in bed, charge, and use the phone at the same time.

SamsungVibrant said:
That's the whole point, to make the cable that came with the charger longer. That way one can lay in bed, charge, and use the phone at the same time.
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Yeah, I just wish (KICKSTARTER!) that someone made a microusb cable that didn't protrude so much from the end of the phone, making it a pain to hold comfortably in landscape mode. Even the right-angle microusb cables I have aren't good enough.
Somebody should really make one that sits flush against the phone, with some extra silicone padding along the base, so you can't even really tell that it's plugged in. It'd be a little pricier, being niche, but I'd buy it... and if marketed right, lots of others would too.

SamsungVibrant said:
That's the whole point, to make the cable that came with the charger longer. That way one can lay in bed, charge, and use the phone at the same time.
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so the length doesn't affect charging performance?

Do longer cables negatively impact charging?
actng said:
so the length doesn't affect charging performance?
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Good question, I don't know. Maybe someone else can chime in.
I can't decide between 6, 10 and 15 ft.
I was going to get the 15 ft until someone else mentioned the longer cables affect charging performance. I don't know if there is any truth to that.
Can someone who knows chime in please

I just bought two 15ft cables on monoprice for two bucks a pop. There's a lot of positive reviews, so my guess is that it works just fine
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Totally off-topic but for everybody that buys cables from Monoprice, do you guys have free shipping code or something?
I know their products and prices are good. But it seems like unless I'm buying a lot of cables, the shipping doesn't justify the cost.

Charging isn't an issue over 6 feet, but if you're using it for data, don't go over 6 feet...
This is what I use. No issues.
Mediabridge - USB 2.0 A-Male to Micro-B Cable (6 Feet)

Cable

I'd like to buy a new and extra cable (not the charger) to connect my device to my computer and charge it then as well.
Apparently this kind of cable, micro data usb, seems to be universal. Is it really so as I don't want to damage it if I buy a generic cable.
Any help me would be great

I was also wondering this because I would like to buy a much longer cable since my power outlet is far from my bedside table.

The cables are universal, so any length would work for charging (data transfer not guaranteed).

Actually they are not that universal. While I dont have any technical specs there are quite large differences.
eg a PC USB slot will only deliver 500 mA UNLESS certain pins are connected that allows the connected device to tell the PC that it can take more than 500 mA. They will look the same but 1 cable will only deliver 500 mA & a different cable could deliver 1000 mA.
Another cable might be wired up for delivering power only from a USB slot or from the wall adapter, but at the same time not be able to do any data transfer.

To be sure I bought an Htc official cable.

You could always just buy a usb extender. That way you can use it for multiple things.

USB cables
Sorry to revive a dead thread, but there is some unclear info in here that I thought I could clear up:
Micro-USB cables are universal in the sense that they will all fit and to one degree or another charge your phone. The combination of the charger and the cable, however can yield wildly different charge rates. If you want fast charging:
1. Look at the small print on your wall charger and see what current level it will output. You're looking for something 1 amp or higher. Some chargers will say something like 500ma, which is 500 milliamps or half an amp, and that's slower.
2. Consider buying a special "charging" cable. These cables use the USB power that would normally be used for data to charge the battery faster, and thus they won't work as data cables when plugged into your computer. Here's an example of a charging cable from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U...1367955673&sr=8-2&keywords=usb+charging+cable
Basically what you want to look for on your One V is in the power settings for the phone it should say "Charging (AC)" when you plug it in and *not* "Charging (USB)". With the AC setting you know you're getting as much charging power as you can get.

I use my old Blackberry charge/USB cable with my One V without issue.

same here lol
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martijn99 said:
same here lol
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Glad I'm not the only one!

hahaha i because of the short lenght of original cable and it makes an irritating noisy sound xD
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martijn99 said:
hahaha i because of the short lenght of original cable and it makes an irritating noisy sound xD
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Yeah, I don't even use my HTC cable anymore. I originally stopped using it because I dropped my phone while it was plugged into it and it bent the connector. However, I HATED how short it was!! Then, I noticed that my Blackberry cable had the same end on it, and I've been using that for USB tethering, and I use my Samsung bluetooth earpiece charger to just charge my One V. lol
Oh, and I use the HTC USB to wall socket adapter to plug in my ecig. XD

ah nicee!
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zombiegirl2010 said:
Yeah, I don't even use my HTC cable anymore. I originally stopped using it because I dropped my phone while it was plugged into it and it bent the connector. However, I HATED how short it was!! Then, I noticed that my Blackberry cable had the same end on it, and I've been using that for USB tethering, and I use my Samsung bluetooth earpiece charger to just charge my One V. lol
Oh, and I use the HTC USB to wall socket adapter to plug in my ecig. XD
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I unintentionally bought some blackberry ones to have in my car, at my PC, at work, etc and they work great for me. I am just really careful about the wall adapter output because using my dad's tablet charger with micro usb killed my wife's optimus t.

What are you guys running for car power?

I just ordered a Griffin PowerJolt. I hope I get one of the newer ones that work with ac mode.

I use the USB port in my deck.
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I bought this and it will be the only car charger i will ever need to buy im set for life, and it was like $2, very good quality
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-T-Mobile-...04272&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+mytouch+car+charger :good::good:

I just got one of the low profile Griffin Powerjolts .... I haven't used it for a full charge yet, but it appears to work ok so far.
What is the AC mode you are speaking of?

I don't recall the exact part number, but its the oem HTC kit I got for my One S prior to trading it in. Nothing fancy, but high quality and power, and the S3 doesn't seem to be picky.
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I use the USB port in my deck.
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How do you stop the deck from trying to index the whole phone? That is the problem I've had when trying that in the past. Is their a setting somewhere, or a cable mod that allows charging but no data?

I use the I-GO, bought it at Radio Shack in I think 2004, been able to charge any phone I've had since then all you have to do is buy the little adapter for each phone, just got one for my GSII for 7 bucks after changing from an IPhone.

Using the t mobile branded mini usb chadger that i got with moto razr. I added a mini to micro usb adapter.
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Scosche reVIVE II. It has 2 ports, 1amp and 2.1amp. I usually use the 2.1 amp port and it works great.
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I usually use the Motorola rapid car charger amazon 5 bucks never had any issues, come with long cord and looks nice.
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I was using some cheap usb charger but it was going loose all the time so I purchased Scosche Powerfuze.
It is a bit expensive but top notch product.

mattsternc said:
I just got one of the low profile Griffin Powerjolts .... I haven't used it for a full charge yet, but it appears to work ok so far.
What is the AC mode you are speaking of?
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Some cheapo usb adapters do not charge at full power. They charge as if they are plugged into a computer (500ma)
It is because the factory forgets to short the datapins.

http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...52677200&sr=1-1&keywords=motorola+car+charger
I use the motorola charger. I had heard good things so I bought one and it seems to work just fine.

BerMM said:
How do you stop the deck from trying to index the whole phone? That is the problem I've had when trying that in the past. Is their a setting somewhere, or a cable mod that allows charging but no data?
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When I plug my phone in its charge only. Only when I go to "USB mode" dose it index the phone.
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I did a lot of research and came up with the following. Been using it for a week now and it charges fast. I did short out the two center usb pins. This is a true 3.1 amp charger. It does not split the power to charge two devices like most 2 amp chargers do. One plug is 1 amp and the other is 2.1 amp.
Mediabridge High Output Dual USB Car Charger For iPad and iPhone (3.1 Amp)
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007TV88F2/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8

charger + cable for the oneplus 1

Just wanted to know what are specs for the charger/cable. I can get tons of aftermarket chargers for my ip4 at a buck or two at the most from asian sellers from asia. am I right that I simply need a 2a charger, with a mini usb cable at the end? just looking into getting extra for when they decide to release it to the public.

Here ya go

truckroot said:
Here ya go
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Sweet! thanks buddy.
cable is a regular mini or micro usb at the end?

rocketman122 said:
Sweet! thanks buddy.
cable is a regular mini or micro usb at the end?
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Micro. Ur welcome!

oneplus cable are specially made, I tried using third party cable, it will double your charge time from 2hours to roughly 4.5hours.

tpboi said:
oneplus cable are specially made, I tried using third party cable, it will double your charge time from 2hours to roughly 4.5hours.
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Haven't tried a third party one yet, thx for the heads up?

tpboi said:
oneplus cable are specially made, I tried using third party cable, it will double your charge time from 2hours to roughly 4.5hours.
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U tried oneplus charger and 3rd party cable? or u tried 3rd party charger too? maybe charger wasnt 2A capable.

carlesbc said:
U tried oneplus charger and 3rd party cable? or u tried 3rd party charger too? maybe charger wasnt 2A capable.
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Anyone tried to trace pinout yet? IIRC, I read somewhere 2 of the pins in the cable were shorted, signaling to the OP that it was to take quick charge. I'll try to find that. The same article / post discussed temp sensor limiting amount of charge since the OP would get hot. Not as quick as true fast charge, but faster than standard.
edit: found it: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/vooc-charging-seems-to-be-working.12639/ by one of XDA's well known devs, @graffixnyc - Thanks Patrick!

Lipo can explode if you hot too much or overcharges, google "lipo explosion"

I have a question. If you use the OPO charger, but plug a usb extender into it(and the OPO cable goes into a usb female at the end of the extender cable), does does having that non-OPO cable in the chain slow things down? Mine does seem to charge slow, but I've honestly never connected the OPO cable directly from the charger to the phone to compare. I honestly don't understand how anyone could use it like that (or any other cable coming with a phone). Not even long enough to stretch from an outlet to a table top if the outlet is right next to the table. My Dell Venue 8 Pro cable is amazing(ly ridiculous). It's maybe a foot long. I guess they expect us to charge our devices on the floor? With the DV8P case the cable would barely even reach the floor!

i can confirm that using the OPO wall charger with a 3rd party usb cable does result in a slower charge time. I tried 2 different cables-- both were of different gauges and lengths-- both resulted in different charge times and were all at least 2-3x slower then the OPO cable. anybody with knowledge as to what kind of cable OPO is using and where we can buy longer versions?

cmo23 said:
i can confirm that using the OPO wall charger with a 3rd party usb cable does result in a slower charge time. I tried 2 different cables-- both were of different gauges and lengths-- both resulted in different charge times and were all at least 2-3x slower then the OPO cable. anybody with knowledge as to what kind of cable OPO is using and where we can buy longer versions?
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I can also confirm slower charging using the stock charger with aftermarket cable. But most of my cables are cheaper, is it possible that the gauge of the wire inside the cable is higher on opo cable? Allowing more amps through?
Also, @effluent , if using an aftermarket cable slows things down, I'm assuming putting an extension in the middle will have very similar negative impacts.
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Here:
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale...ne+usb&catId=&initiative_id=AS_20140821164650
And here:
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale...harger&catId=&initiative_id=AS_20140821164948

You want a charger cable that won't fail.... Stop buying them online. I've bought them everywhere online and they just can't compete with the usb/charger cable from tmobile.... Maybe be the same for other service providers. Plus you get 30 days to refund or exchange.... So you know after a month if it's worth it which it is.... Those teeth won't sit down and ruin the quality of the charge like 90 percent of the cables online.
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I suggest you have a look here :
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-one-charging-cable-alternative.68517/

flame360 said:
I suggest you have a look here :
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-one-charging-cable-alternative.68517/
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Seconded. I learned everything I needed to know there! :good:

Cable is way to small I hate it.
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opo cable
On dx . com store..
Bolongking USB Male to Micro USB Male Charging Flat Cable

beastlykings said:
I can also confirm slower charging using the stock charger with aftermarket cable. But most of my cables are cheaper, is it possible that the gauge of the wire inside the cable is higher on opo cable? Allowing more amps through?
Also, @effluent , if using an aftermarket cable slows things down, I'm assuming putting an extension in the middle will have very similar negative impacts.
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You just have to find the right cable. I went through this same thing with my galaxy s5. I got the application "galaxy charging current" and compared the milliamps of all my cables. Some would only do 4-500 ma. Some would do 1800ma. It just depends on the cable. I'm using the cable I got with a ps4 right now, and it will do 1800, and it's 4 feet long.
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Try a fast-charge cable, it has the correct pinout (shorted pins) for fast charging.
www<DOT>amazon.co.uk/dp/B0088HTYUE
And you can't overcharge, it's the phone that demands the current, not the charger that pushes the current through the phone. The phone's charging circuit protects the phone for overcharging and handshakes the right charging current with the connected charger. Charging Android is quiet a complex thing...
Also very very useful: PortaPow USB Power Monitor:
www<DOT>amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DF2485S
(ps can't post links yet, grr..)