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[Q] Car charger

I read in a couple posts that existing car chargers can't power the galaxy nexus. i've been using a cheap retractable one i bought from publix for my nexus one for almost a year, and if that one won't charge my Gnex, then i'd like to buy a new one before it comes in.
So does anyone know if theres any truth to what i read, and if so, what chargers are you guys using that works. preferably from amazon

feel bad for bumping this, but i kinda need an answer here.

I use this one. Works great. Its a 2 amp charger.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...?ie=UTF8&qid=1323912645&sr=1-14&condition=new
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I don't know the brand of the one I use, but I think you just need to get a USB charger that has a high enough mA output. A standard USB port only puts out 500 mA, which may not be enough to charge the phone while using it. The charger that came with my phone puts out 1000 mA, or 1 Amp. So, I think you just need to look at what the amp your USB charger can provide to see if it will work with your phone. I just got a 2 amp charger with 2 USB ports from Amazon. I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but I expect it will work.

alright so basically try to get a 1000mA or 1Amp+ charger. thanks guys.

[Q] LTE Nexus and a Powermat?

Anyone use a Powermat to charge their phone? it looks like the usb attachment doesn't make it register like it's charging?

I have the same problem with USB charging. Neither my PC nor my Macbook Pro will charge the phone. It says charging, but the battery continues to drain. I noticed on my mac the USB port is only providing 500mA. The plug-in charger that came with the phone says 1.0 amp (1000ma).
I have a powermat too, but you need a special back cover on the phone to get it to charge this way, even that's even going to be an option on this phone.

having an issue with some of my car chargers too, some work some don't.
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just bought the powermat for my nexus and it works great with the usb square attachment.

meerdutch said:
just bought the powermat for my nexus and it works great with the usb square attachment.
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you mean the square power cube? Can you take a pic of your setup?
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bisquick24 said:
Anyone use a Powermat to charge their phone? it looks like the usb attachment doesn't make it register like it's charging?
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I initially had problems when using the power cube as well. This was a little surprising since its output was 1A which was the same as chargers which worked well. I decided to try using a different mini to micro usb adapter than the one which comes with the power cube. Once I switched adapters, the powermat worked perfectly.

Any particular model?
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bisquick24 said:
Any particular model?
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You would ask that. I found the packaging and it's an Adapti. It's just a cheap adapter that I bought from the local Fred Meyer (a department store chain in the Pacific Northwest) about a year and a half ago. It also came a mini-usb to iPhone adapter.
Hopefully this helps. You should be able to find an adapter that works.
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Efficient enough car charger.

Hi guys.
I have a problem finding good car charger for my phone while in car.
I either use sygic sat nav or Google maps but on top of that I stream music either via Google music or di.fm app.
Problem starts when I start streaming. My battery slowly drops down about 1% per 15min. I've tried various car chargers that have either 1amp, 2.1 amp and even dual 3.5amp they don't do the job. Only my HTC 1amp charger manages to hold the charge but it doesn't charge on top of that.
Any ideas and suggestions?
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I bought the car charger from Amazon HERE earlier this year and it has worked out awesome. I usually leave it in my car but also makes a great wall charger for when you need it in a pinch and didnt bring your own. Its 17 (I got free shipping since I have Amazon Prime) and well worth it since I dont think I ever have to buy another car charger again for any device I own. Even charges my tablet.

Genuine Motorola rapid car charger, simply the best. Charges like a wall charger, seriously, phone says it's plugged into AC power
No other charger I have used, has allowed to use Google navigation and still quickly charge my galaxy nexus
Rellikzephyr
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In some roms like Slim ICS you can make the USB charge as fast as a wall charger!

I use a rocketfish 1a charger from bestbuy and it charges while using navigation and streaming.
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I use a 1A HTC charger and never had any issues. Are you sure your cigarette lighter is working properly? It sounds like all of these chargers you've tried are charging at less than 1A.

I think 1 amp is about all it will do. It will have a hard time keeping up if you are using it a lot. I have the htc car charger and it seems to keep up for me but actually getting a decent charge while using it will be hard.
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not all 1a chargers actually charge at 1a. it depends on if the two middle pins are shorted together or not.
this charger is cheap as hell - 3 bucks - and charges at a full 1a. i use it and it works perfectly.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-T-Mobile-...631519&sr=1-1&keywords=htc+mytouch+3g+charger

I noticed this too, using a Kensington USB charger in the car. On my drive out to Phoenix, I noticed that having Navigation running while plugged in caused the battery to drain.
I also noticed that running Torque sucks the battery down as well. I stopped at a gas station that had a ton of gadgets, so I bought another off-brand USB adapter that stated its output is 1.5A. I also picked up the OEM extended battery at a VZW store while out there. It doesn't drain as fast now, but it does still drain a bit.

Motorola
Absolutely go for the motorola charger. I use it everytime in car, it's a 1A charger, has a nice blue light and can charge your phone even when using navigation.
And on top of that it's also cheap. I bought it in boundle with a motorola wall charger @ 10€.

is it this one guys http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Motorol...846874?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2a1ea6619a

Make shift cable.
If you're super cheap and/or like to DIY, I was able to get my Galaxy Nexus to recognize any USB charger as AC by cutting a USB extension cable in half. I then soldered/twisted the green and white wires within the USB cable together and then I soldered the red to red and black to black. By putting the modified USB extension in between the charger and a USB to Micro USB cable it will force the phone to recognize the charger as AC instead of USB. I sealed up my adapter with some White and Green heat-shrink tubing I had lying around so it would be easy to identify. Same thing can be done to a USB to Micro-USB cable if you want.

RellikZephyr said:
Genuine Motorola rapid car charger, simply the best. Charges like a wall charger, seriously, phone says it's plugged into AC power
No other charger I have used, has allowed to use Google navigation and still quickly charge my galaxy nexus
Rellikzephyr
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I have the same and can confirm this. Charges fast.
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mroneeyedboh said:
is it this one guys http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Motorol...846874?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2a1ea6619a
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That's the one. Pours life back into your phone.
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tspderek said:
not all 1a chargers actually charge at 1a. it depends on if the two middle pins are shorted together or not.
this charger is cheap as hell - 3 bucks - and charges at a full 1a. i use it and it works perfectly.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-T-Mobile-...631519&sr=1-1&keywords=htc+mytouch+3g+charger
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seriously guys. 3 bucks and it's as good as the moto charger. i use it with my nex daily.

I hear you. This thread should have stopped at your post.
FWIW, I added your charger to my amazon wishlist.
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seriously guys. 3 bucks and it's as good as the moto charger. i use it with my nex daily.
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RellikZephyr said:
Genuine Motorola rapid car charger, simply the best. Charges like a wall charger, seriously, phone says it's plugged into AC power
No other charger I have used, has allowed to use Google navigation and still quickly charge my galaxy nexus
Rellikzephyr
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I second this.

I have been using this one for years with apply and now the nexus. IT does fast charge and also comes with usb slot
http://www.amazon.com/AT-Micro-USB-...&qid=1340040798&sr=8-2&keywords=att&t+usb+car

For anyone still interested in the Motorola Rapid Charger, Amazon has it a few bucks cheaper than the ebay ad posted earlier.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehicle-Adapter-micro-USB-Charger/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp

tspderek said:
not all 1a chargers actually charge at 1a. it depends on if the two middle pins are shorted together or not.
this charger is cheap as hell - 3 bucks - and charges at a full 1a. i use it and it works perfectly.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-T-Mobile-...631519&sr=1-1&keywords=htc+mytouch+3g+charger
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Anyone in Canada interested in getting one of these for $5 + CDN shipping? I just picked up 4 of these from my mailbox in the states and am selling 3. PM me if you're game. (BTW, charges my GNex in AC mode) And if you're in Vancouver you can pick it up in person

OEM charger output vs. high output car charger

IIRC the stock wall charger is rated at 1.8Ah. But, what is the phone's actual draw? Does it ever get up there near 1.8mAh?
I'm just trying to figure out if a car charger with "only 1000mA" will be sufficient. I'm guessing that the OEM wall charger is rated well above whatever the phone might ask for, but as to how much, I don't know.
I'm actually looking at these two right now as they both seem to give a pretty high output for both Android and Apple devices.
http://www.ianker.com/product/71AN1852C-02WA
http://www.ianker.com/anker-car-charger-usb/product/71AN15WCC-BA

My experience with other phones is that the phone draws exactly what the stock charger gives it. I'd imagine it's the same with this one. 3140mah is a lot of battery to charge.
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borgib said:
My experience with other phones is that the phone draws exactly what the stock charger gives it. I'd imagine it's the same with this one. 3140mah is a lot of battery to charge.
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I'd agree. I charged it the first couple days using the OGP wall charger and USB cable from my Nexus 4. It took all night. Switched the cable with the one in the box, and it charges in like an hour!

I have a 2.1a car charger, and the OGPro charges in exactly the same amount of time as the stock wall charger.
Oddly, it charges slower from my 2a Note II charger.

raduque said:
I have a 2.1a car charger, and the OGPro charges in exactly the same amount of time as the stock wall charger.
Oddly, it charges slower from my 2a Note II charger.
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Which car charger do you have?
I'm looking on amazon and all of the 2A+ charges I'm finding are for Apple crap.
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scottypimpin636 said:
Which car charger do you have?
I'm looking on amazon and all of the 2A+ charges I'm finding are for Apple crap.
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Im looking at all of the chargers from Anker on Amazon. It seems they have the best positive reviews of anything I've seen. Although the 3.6 watt (white unit with either 2 usb ports or one port and a micro usb cable) unit is newer than the 3.1 (black heavy duty), the black unit can give the full 3.1 watts to either port or split it amongst the two ports. And according to Anker, either port will work for Apple or android. They suggested i get the newer (white) unit, but i want to have the full 3.1 watts available to a single port for future h higher powered devices.

I'll have to check those out. I've been looking at this one, which has good reviews on it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003RQBKLC/ref=ox_sc_sfl_image_3?ie=UTF8&m=AWZ3LXPHZK09
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scottypimpin636 said:
I'll have to check those out. I've been looking at this one, which has good reviews on it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003RQBKLC/ref=ox_sc_sfl_image_3?ie=UTF8&m=AWZ3LXPHZK09
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My concern with that one is that it gives a total of 2.1A. So if you charge your OGP using one usb port, there's only 0.3A left for the other port. The disclaimer at the end of the description says that if you are charging an iPad to not use the second port. I'm guessing that warning would also apply too us with the high draw OGP. It also states that the blue light gets even brighter in the dark. You might need to cover the led if it's too bright,but that's a personal taste thing,and it might not actually be that intrusive. Lastly, do you have enough room in your vehicle to rest both your phone, and the head of the charging device? I have a dual outlet 12v supplier in my car, but i bought one that has no cord. The two outlets are rigidly mounted right at the end of the cigarette lighter plug.

I bought a Griffin Powerjolt single USB at Walmart. It only charges at full speed using the OGPro's stock cable. Any other cable is slower, and the cable from my old S2 gives me a "Slow Charging" notification.
Anyway, this charger is just a stop-gap. I'm going to be hard wiring two USB plugs into my truck's 12v system (with some 5v regulators and an Add-a-Circuit).

I was looking at the 3.6A charger, here's the link on amazon.
As I expected, one port is for Apple and one for Android. This is very irritating because I need to charge my OGP while my fiance charges her OG at the same time on trips.
Can our OGP charge at full speed on the Apple port?
Edit: I just read that the kernal in Android 4.2 fixes this issue so we can charge in any USB charger, including apple chargers. I'm guessing LG devices still on 4.1 won't benefit from this update.

Shouldn't going to Settings > PC Connection > USB Connection Type and then setting it to "Charge only" force the device to see any cable as a charge only cable thus making it charge faster?

scottypimpin636 said:
I was looking at the 3.6A charger, here's the link on amazon.
As I expected, one port is for Apple and one for Android. This is very irritating because I need to charge my OGP while my fiance charges her OG at the same time on trips.
Can our OGP charge at full speed on the Apple port?
Edit: I just read that the kernal in Android 4.2 fixes this issue so we can charge in any USB charger, including apple chargers. I'm guessing LG devices still on 4.1 won't benefit from this update.
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As per Anker, the Apple port will charge Android at full speed. I have not verified this myself as I have not gotten mine yet, but that's what I'm told, and expect. I'm waiting for their wall charger to come back in stock as the shipping will be free if l order both.

I ordered the black 3.6v version. I'll get it Monday or Tuesday since I have Prime.
Are there any apps that detect how much juice the battery is getting?
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My LGOG PRO charges on anything with a usb port.
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Jammol said:
My LGOG PRO charges on anything with a usb port.
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Same here. I've been using the charger from my old Atrix. I may get LG's charger out of the box tonight to see if it's any faster.

RaiderDuck said:
Same here. I've been using the charger from my old Atrix. I may get LG's charger out of the box tonight to see if it's any faster.
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I just bought a 4.2 amp dual usb car charger, so I can charge my OGP and any other device without issue.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/42-Amp-Dual-USB-Car-Charger-iPod-iPhone-3s-4-MP3-HTC-/320779507652

I just got the amzer 3.6a charger and sure enough I get the "slow charging" on the apple port. I'm going to sacrifice a usb cable and re wire it so it'll work for now.
Can't wait for Android 4.2 to fix this issue.
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stevefxp said:
I just bought a 4.2 amp dual usb car charger, so I can charge my OGP and any other device without issue.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/42-Amp-Dual-USB-Car-Charger-iPod-iPhone-3s-4-MP3-HTC-/320779507652
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Please keep us posted as to how well it works, and if it really puts out that much juice.
scottypimpin636 said:
I just got the amzer 3.6a charger and sure enough I get the "slow charging" on the apple port. I'm going to sacrifice a usb cable and re wire it so it'll work for now.
Can't wait for Android 4.2 to fix this issue.
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Any info on how to rewire (Web link) would be appreciated.
What is it that 4.2 has that will fix it?

Here's the link for the charge cable mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984838
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I just made the charge cable linked in the post above. It works like a charm
I also purchased This wall charger which works perfectly fine with our phone on both the "A" and "NA" port.
I'm willing to bet this car charger made by the same company as the one linked above will work also.

broke my Nexus 7 microsd cable..where to find oem replacement?

This morning I woke up and the microsd cable was broken, I guess in my sleep I bent it and it won't charge any more..(just the cable part) from the charger. Is there a place online to buy the oem original asus cable or something compatible? Something that will charge as fast as the original one.

I use a genuine BB cable from a 9900 Bold and it shows charging at AC rate, not USB.

OEM cable for N7(2013)
euklid said:
This morning I woke up and the microsd cable was broken, I guess in my sleep I bent it and it won't charge any more..(just the cable part) from the charger. Is there a place online to buy the oem original asus cable or something compatible? Something that will charge as fast as the original one.
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Pretty much any micro usb cable from a reputable manufacturer will work (its the chargers where you get the differences). I've used my S3 cable, an old Motorola cable, and a monoprice (generic) cable for charging it and other devices with no problems.

Some generic cable don't work very well. I've had charging problems. You can get the Motorola cable pretty cheap on amazon.

Mine stopped working after about 3 weeks. The cable was never bent or even removed from the wall adapter either! It's very possible that you didn't bend the cable in your sleep, and instead the cable just stopped working like mine did. Since then, I've just been using one of my many HTC cables plugged in to the Asus wall adapter that came with my N7 FHD. It works perfectly!
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Try monoprice.

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Try monoprice.
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Haha I was scrolling down to see if anyone would mention monoprice and you beat me to it. But yes try monoprice. Just ordered their premium micro-b USB cables which is the type you're looking for and just received them yesterday. Very happy with my order. Can get what you're looking for for less than $1.50 and no shipping.

bolo808 said:
Haha I was scrolling down to see if anyone would mention monoprice and you beat me to it. But yes try monoprice. Just ordered their premium micro-b USB cables which is the type you're looking for and just received them yesterday. Very happy with my order. Can get what you're looking for for less than $1.50 and no shipping.
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Can you please give me the link to the premium cable your ordered?? I ordered some from monoprice a while back for my old s2 and they charged slow..

Buy the amazonbasics one. Cheap, good quality, gold plated, nice thick feel to it and very long!
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...866469&sr=8-1&keywords=amazonbasics+micro+usb
I have not tested it on the tablet, but I charge my phone all day with it at work. Using the OEM HTC outlet adapter, it provides AC charging.
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euklid said:
Can you please give me the link to the premium cable your ordered?? I ordered some from monoprice a while back for my old s2 and they charged slow..
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Here's a link to one of the cables I bought: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=9761&seq=1&format=2
This one is the 3ft cable but they also have 3ft and 6ft premium cables in black and white. If you go back a page to the full listing of USB cables scroll down to the section USB 2.0 Cables - Micro-B Type and you'll see all the different cables you're looking for. The first 4 are the premium cables. I got both 3 and 6 ft cables and no problems with charging times.

detonation said:
Pretty much any micro usb cable will work (its the chargers where you get the differences). I've used my S3 cable, an old Motorola cable, and a generic cable for charging it and other devices with no problems.
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The cable is a big factor in charge rates.
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drodarte said:
The cable is a big factor in charge rates.
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This is true! I think the post you quoted would have been better stated by saying that any cable FROM A REPUTABLE MANUFACTURER should work just fine. Not just ANY cable because, unfortunately, there are many 3rd party cables that are just junk. If you have a cable from your current or previous phone, and it's a phone manufactured by a reputable company, then it should work without a problem.
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bolo808 said:
Here's a link to one of the cables I bought: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=9761&seq=1&format=2
This one is the 3ft cable but they also have 3ft and 6ft premium cables in black and white. If you go back a page to the full listing of USB cables scroll down to the section USB 2.0 Cables - Micro-B Type and you'll see all the different cables you're looking for. The first 4 are the premium cables. I got both 3 and 6 ft cables and no problems with charging times.
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Thanks..were u able to check the current its charging at with this..whats its suppose to be on nexus 7?? I know on my s4 stock samsung its 1900mA.
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stanglifemike said:
This is true! I think the post you quoted would have been better stated by saying that any cable FROM A REPUTABLE MANUFACTURER should work just fine. Not just ANY cable because, unfortunately, there are many 3rd party cables that are just junk. If you have a cable from your current or previous phone, and it's a phone manufactured by a reputable company, then it should work without a problem.
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Fixed my post I've never bought a no name cable but I can imagine if they're cheaply/poorly built they'll have terrible impedance and charge too slow.
Also note that really long cables will charge slower (unless they use lower guage wire)

For Monoprice, avoid the 24AWG ferrite bead ones (the ones that go for about $1 for a 3-foot one). While they seem like quality cables at first, I've had 4 and 3 of them have gotten flaky over time (the D+/D- ones broke on one of them so it doesn't talk to a computer anymore, and the other two often lose connection when moved around).

I have a bunch of different standard cables from eBay (different lengths), even the colorful ones. All work without problems. It's a digital cable ( 2 data and 2 power lines). if it's not broken or shorted any cable should work. Of course if you approach the maximum length (5m -15 ft) of usb and the cable is not up to the specs it may start failing but for 1-3 m should not have problems with any cable. If we speak about the power adapter (not cable) it's another story. There are many variants and not all provide the specified power, but if the specs are correct the 2A and 3A ones should work. Car adapters , an even more different story. I'm not using my Nexus 7-2 in car (have a build in Android navi now), but I used the first gen Nexus 7, and I tried 3 different adapters until I found one which provided enough power to charge the tablet with GPS and navi on (most will let the tablet slowly discharge). I think this model require less power so maybe even some which did not work will work now.

euklid said:
Thanks..were u able to check the current its charging at with this..whats its suppose to be on nexus 7?? I know on my s4 stock samsung its 1900mA.
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I did two tests both using the Asus power adapter that came with the device and these are the specs for it from the Asus website:
Output:5.2V 1.35A/7W for other USB device
Input:100-240V AC, 50/60Hz universal
I attached two pictures using battery monitor widget. Just adding in too my n7 is unlocked and rooted but completely stock other than that. The first picture is with the Asus USB cable that came with the device and the second picture is with my 6ft premium cable from monoprice. Sorry if this isn't what you were asking for.

bolo808 said:
I did two tests both using the Asus power adapter that came with the device and these are the specs for it from the Asus website:
Output:5.2V 1.35A/7W for other USB device
Input:100-240V AC, 50/60Hz universal
I attached two pictures using battery monitor widget. Just adding in too my n7 is unlocked and rooted but completely stock other than that. The first picture is with the Asus USB cable that came with the device and the second picture is with my 6ft premium cable from monoprice. Sorry if this isn't what you were asking for.
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yeah was looking for the mA delivered to device...have you noticed any difference in how long it takes to fully charge the n7? I know there's tons of cables just looking for one with comparable performance to stock one.

euklid said:
yeah was looking for the mA delivered to device...have you noticed any difference in how long it takes to fully charge the n7? I know there's tons of cables just looking for one with comparable performance to stock one.
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I haven't actually been able to test the time it takes to fully charge since I usually charge it overnight but I'll try to run some tests and time how long it takes with the different cables and I'll post my findings. From what I've seen so far from using it, I haven't noticed any difference with charge time between the stock cable and the monoprice one With my experience using it to charge my droid razr (xt912) definitely no difference with charge time compared to the stock motorola usb cable. I'm sure with the n7 it's totally fine.