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Hey guys,
I was "smart" enough to remove the default email application on my S2, I am unsure if it was a Samsung custom app or just a standard Android one.
Anyway I got the default android one installed and I don't like it.
I am using an exchange server with push etc setup but still it keep using so much battery and keeps putting the phone in wake lock mode. So I want to replace it. If Samsung has their own app then I will install it but I need the file to install as I didn't back it up.
Thanks for your help guys!
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I would recommend TouchDown , its pricey and ugly to look at but works the best and battery saving. You can setup customized peak and of peak hrs.
they have a trial version you can try
O and O said:
Hey guys,
I was "smart" enough to remove the default email application on my S2, I am unsure if it was a Samsung custom app or just a standard Android one.
Anyway I got the default android one installed and I don't like it.
I am using an exchange server with push etc setup but still it keep using so much battery and keeps putting the phone in wake lock mode. So I want to replace it. If Samsung has their own app then I will install it but I need the file to install as I didn't back it up.
Thanks for your help guys!
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If you managed to remove it then you should be able to put it back ;-)
I've tried a few and here are some active sync specific comments:
Touchdown - good but syncs only one account so useless to me
Enhanced Email - syncs many accounts but kills my battery over night (50% or so) and it has no decent widget for emails (that shows subject etc)
Moxier Mail - also syncs just one activesync account
There was one other I tried (not sure which one) but also just one account
it has to be said: What is wrong with these developers? Many users have more than one account to sync these days! Also, none of them seem to offer different fonts, underline etc. My jailbroken iphone could do that a long time ago!
That leaves the default app. Seems to work OK and I have two accounts from Exchange 2010 synced BUT when I add a third (from 2007....don't know if that's the problem) then it starts to kill by battery.
Are you syncing from Exchange 2007 or 2010?
ewok666 said:
If you managed to remove it then you should be able to put it back ;-)
I've tried a few and here are some active sync specific comments:
Touchdown - good but syncs only one account so useless to me
Enhanced Email - syncs many accounts but kills my battery over night (50% or so) and it has no decent widget for emails (that shows subject etc)
Moxier Mail - also syncs just one activesync account
There was one other I tried (not sure which one) but also just one account
it has to be said: What is wrong with these developers? Many users have more than one account to sync these days! Also, none of them seem to offer different fonts, underline etc. My jailbroken iphone could do that a long time ago!
That leaves the default app. Seems to work OK and I have two accounts from Exchange 2010 synced BUT when I add a third (from 2007....don't know if that's the problem) then it starts to kill by battery.
Are you syncing from Exchange 2007 or 2010?
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Sorry guys but needs to be free.
To be honest I don't know what my work place uses ... BUT! ... I think it is likely to be 2007.
I am using this and so far it is working very well for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1287121&highlight=email
Have you tried emoze http://m.emoze.com/
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There's a bug in the stock Samsung email app that causes a wakelock, you can try the version I posted and what Seifer1975 posted link above.
Without source code for the Samsung one it's hard to add the code to solve the wakelock. My skills aren't that great but will see if I can try editing the smali files but I'm no expert. If an expert can take a look that would be great.
My sister set up Hotmail via exchange on the stock Samsung one and damn massive wakelocks, 1700+ counts, this was on push and caused massive drain. Going to get her to try the above version and see the differences.
Personally, I'm trying out Moxier Mail trial very nice, but only on manual as what's the point getting push when I'm in the office? I turn on push when out and about.
You can also see my signature for a very crude hack of the Samsung stock email client with the wakelock fix (all I did was replace the smali file with the fixed one).
The wakelock fix only addresses one kind of wakelock (where the connection gets interrupted during a sync). I found that it helps but my Exchange email wakelocks are still longer than I would like. Most likely it is because of bad Exchange server or carrier settings. Unlike Blackberry push, Exchange ActiveSync "push" is more like a slow pull so it really depends on how long your phone is allowed to maintain an idle connection. Might be worth talking to your Exchange admin to check their settings (I think Microsoft has some recommended settings on their website.)
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There's a bug in the stock Samsung email app that causes a wakelock, you can try the version I posted and what Seifer1975 posted link above.
Without source code for the Samsung one it's hard to add the code to solve the wakelock. My skills aren't that great but will see if I can try editing the smali files but I'm no expert. If an expert can take a look that would be great.
My sister set up Hotmail via exchange on the stock Samsung one and damn massive wakelocks, 1700+ counts, this was on push and caused massive drain. Going to get her to try the above version and see the differences.
Personally, I'm trying out Moxier Mail trial very nice, but only on manual as what's the point getting push when I'm in the office? I turn on push when out and about.
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Downloaded and installed your version, will test it during the week and see how it goes. Ironically I had v2.3.4 installed on my phone not the 2.3.5r1 but I can't see any new 'features' between the too ...
claimui said:
You can also see my signature for a very crude hack of the Samsung stock email client with the wakelock fix (all I did was replace the smali file with the fixed one).
The wakelock fix only addresses one kind of wakelock (where the connection gets interrupted during a sync). I found that it helps but my Exchange email wakelocks are still longer than I would like. Most likely it is because of bad Exchange server or carrier settings. Unlike Blackberry push, Exchange ActiveSync "push" is more like a slow pull so it really depends on how long your phone is allowed to maintain an idle connection. Might be worth talking to your Exchange admin to check their settings (I think Microsoft has some recommended settings on their website.)
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Thanks for your help, I actually saw your version first which let me to the above.
I'd love to know why there is no mail client that:
- Let's you sync more than one activesync account
- Does NOT kill the battery
- Has html signatures
- Has a decent widget with mail preview (at least the subject!)
- Can use different fonts and/or underline, italic, bold etc.
Must be too much to ask for...
Looking for your thoughts? Which is better on battery life utilizing push?
OmegaDog said:
Looking for your thoughts? Which is better on battery life utilizing push?
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I always wonder why people use the Gmail app. People must have more than one account. So why not use an unified inbox, so you can view all your emails in one place?
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I always wonder why people use the Gmail app. People must have more than one account. So why not use an unified inbox, so you can view all your emails in one place?
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Personal preference. I like keeping my inboxes separate. Also, I'm fairly certain the stock email app doesn't handle Gmail-specific functions such as importance markers, priority inbox, and labels.
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Looking for your thoughts? Which is better on battery life utilizing push?
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Using Google and Gmail is less taxing on your battery. If you setup your Gmail account (on a computer from the Gmail inbox) to poll your other accounts, it will then push new emails to your phone. That means your phone is only active (in terms of getting emails) when a new email is being pushed to the phone verses the native email app that will poll your pop3 accounts on the frequency you select. It will do that polling whether there are new emails available on your server or not. Over at Android Central is an article titled "Using Gmail as your own personal push mail server". It explains exactly how to set this up.
I've been doing this for about two years now and love it. I think the Gmail is better than the native email app too.
Good luck.
Gmail app, hands down. You're going to miss so many functions compared to the basic email app.
I didn't even know there was a stock email app..
Gmail all the way.
Gmail of course. Never even touched the stock Email app on any phone I've had.
I'd only use the stock email app if I had to connect to an exchange server. Otherwise, Gmail can pull your email and label them - there is your unified inbox, with the best search in the world and many more features than the stock email app.
Gmail no doubt about it
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I'd only use the stock email app if I had to connect to an exchange server. Otherwise, Gmail can pull your email and label them - there is your unified inbox, with the best search in the world and many more features than the stock email app.
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I wish Google would put all of its efforts into just creating one amazing email app instead of two ok apps. I need Exchange support so I'm forced to use both apps and honestly, neither compares to the experience I had on Windows Phone... Search was much better and faster on Windows Phone as well. The main advantage to Gmail app is the labels function, after that the clients in Androids competitors win in speed, zoom and ability to change views like swipe to view all unread messages, and swipe again to view starred messages.
Stock Gmail preferred, but have to use both since Yahoo won't connect to Gmail unless you pay them a premium fee. Yahoo account is basically collecting spam and an occasional message from someone who hasn't updated their contact list in a while. And c2dm is more timely and battery efficient than scheduled polling and sync.
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hmm well I have been using the stock email app forever. Mainly because I needed exchange support, first for school and now for work. But I got tired of exchange hogging the battery so I just have all my emails forwarded now to my gmail account. Might have to give it a try.
Seeing as I only use Gmail on my phone the Gmail app does the job (and I delete the stock app as I never use it)
Lol I freeze the stock mail app first time I flash a rom
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Using both apps here.
Gmail app for my "real" email and stock for Yahoo and Exchange.
What's the stock email app?
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Using Google and Gmail is less taxing on your battery. If you setup your Gmail account (on a computer from the Gmail inbox) to poll your other accounts, it will then push new emails to your phone. That means your phone is only active (in terms of getting emails) when a new email is being pushed to the phone verses the native email app that will poll your pop3 accounts on the frequency you select. It will do that polling whether there are new emails available on your server or not. Over at Android Central is an article titled "Using Gmail as your own personal push mail server". It explains exactly how to set this up.
I've been doing this for about two years now and love it. I think the Gmail is better than the native email app too.
Good luck.
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My god man. I never knew this.:laugh: Set this up in a matter of minutes. Thanks for this.:good:
Have you guys ever had a look at the gmail app for the iphone? It is gorgeous! And same functionality as well. Ours works very well but I would like to see a little UI overhaul
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I always wonder why people use the Gmail app. People must have more than one account. So why not use an unified inbox, so you can view all your emails in one place?
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I pull other accounts into my main Gmail account, so everything ends up there (e-mails from other accounts automatically get labeled accordingly), and I can access everything through the Gmail app on my phone.
Am I the only one who's disenchanted with the Gmail app on Android? I was hoping it would be better with my Nexus, but nothing has changed.
It doesn't seem like true push. If I set Gmail up as an exchange account in the mail app, it receives my e-mail and notifies me within seconds of sending a test message. The Gmail app randomly notifies me within about 15 minutes or so. Call me anal, but I like to receive my e-mail as soon as possible (sometimes it's important) and I don't see why there's a delay on the official Gmail app.
I know this has been an ongoing issue for some time with Android and my co-worker claims that he's perfectly happy just using the Gmail app, but my experience is that the Email client receives e-mail faster and that's important to me.
I've been using the gmail app for a while on 4 different devices (N1,G2,Sensation,GNex), and I've never noticed more than a couple second lag receiving emails. I have noticed something since 4.0.4 or possibly the latest gmail update. When I mark an email as read on my computer, the notification no longer clears itself on my phone. I have to manually clear it.
It can be strange, and in some cases frustrating. More often than not, my emails come really quick (as they should). There has been a few occurances where an email was delayed by several hours.
And it does seem as though the mail app works better than the gmail app for push email.
Edit: I only use the gmail app, but have used the mail app in the past.
Never had more than a 30 second delay personally.
See, my co-worker swears he doesn't notice a delay either, but I have tested it over and over. When I have notifications on for both the default e-mail client and Gmail, I will get a notification immediately from the e-mail client and nothing from Gmail. More troubling, when I open Gmail, the e-mail is not there yet. It's like it's on periodic check, instead of push.
Currently, I have notifications turned off for the Gmail app and use it to sync everything, then have Gmail set up as an exchange account and only have it pulling in e-mail (no contacts or calendar). It still seems a tad redundant, but its' the only way to ensure that I get my e-mail reliably.
I've not noticed any delay with using the app.
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No delays here either. I relay email from POP3 accounts to Gmail for the push functionality and it works flawlessly.
All good here too. Matches my desktop Gmail timing. Btw I love the Gmail app its the best damn email experience I've ever seen on a phone, I use it constantly.
I can't be the only one having this issue. Is it possible that no one here knows any different simply because they haven't tried it as an exchange account through the regular e-mail app? Again, I have had this issue on pretty much every Android phone I have owned. And I can duplicate it any time.
Would anyone care to add Gmail as an Exchange account through the e-mail app and then send themselves a test message? Let me know if you get it in both apps around the same time. In my case, it shows up instantly in the e-mail app and won't show up for several minutes in the Gmail app unless I push the sync button manually.
i've noticed delays too. really frustrating because i have no idea what can be done about it...
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i've noticed delays too. really frustrating because i have no idea what can be done about it...
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Nothing that I know of, because it only seems to affect a small percentage of users. I can find a few posts on the internet with other users complaining about the same issue, but most people who reply say they have no problem (just like this post). It makes me wonder if I created a completely new Gmail account and tied it to my phone, if I'd get e-mail instantly on that account.
Unfortunately, that's not an option. I've had this address for years.
How long is your delay, less than a minute? I send myself a test email from my corp work email and it comes thru in less than a minute.
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How long is your delay, less than a minute? I send myself a test email from my corp work email and it comes thru in less than a minute.
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The delay varies. Sometimes it's instant, other times it's anywhere from a 5-15 minute delay. I always get the e-mails instantly in the e-mail app when Gmail is set up as an exchange account.
The moral of the story is, it's not reliable. I can never count on getting my e-mail in a timely manner in the Gmail app.
Sign in to the Google Talk application and make sure you're always signed in. I believe that the gTalk-connection is used for push-messages, so if you're signed in into gTalk, push should work.
I also had the delay once, after I restored a backup of the gmail data after a factory reset(actually, yakjuxw -> yakju). I deleted the gmail data and re-configured it. That fixed the problem for me.
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Sign in to the Google Talk application and make sure you're always signed in. I believe that the gTalk-connection is used for push-messages, so if you're signed in into gTalk, push should work.
I also had the delay once, after I restored a backup of the gmail data after a factory reset(actually, yakjuxw -> yakju). I deleted the gmail data and re-configured it. That fixed the problem for me.
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I'm glad you mentioned this. I have the gmail issue (won't ever recieve push email...have to manually sync) AND I cannot sign into GTalk from my phone.
I wish I could fix.
Sorry to revive a dead thread, but was there ever a resolution to this? I'm having the exact same problem on my HTC One X (AT&T).
Gmail or Gtalk delays are due to router (firewall issues). Just forward the necessary Google ports, and you'll be good to go.
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Gmail or Gtalk delays are due to router (firewall issues). Just forward the necessary Google ports, and you'll be good to go.
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This occurs when I'm connected to AT&T's lte network too
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I am struggling with this issue as well
Me too, lately it's been brutal for me
For about a year I've been using RoadSync as my Exchange email client, which worked quite well. However I'm starting to use more folders with rules that automatically shift messages as they arrive in my inbox, and RoadSync doesn't seem to pick up new messages in these folders so I miss notifications of unread mail.
Enter Touchdown - I've been evaluating both it and Moxier Mail. Touchdown seems to win based on the customization features and the fact that new mail notifications have the subject visible (Moxier just says "New Mail").
The issue is that Touchdown doesn't seem to be responding well to push email. It only notifies me of new mail at longer intervals, acting as though it is polling - even though I've got it to push during peak hours. At the same time RoadSync is getting the push notifications immediately. (Note this still happens when I turn off the other apps push notifications, it doesn't appear to be a conflict between them).
Anyone else have push issues with Touchdown email?
Follow-up: after two days experimenting with these other apps, I just re-visited RoadSync and realized the issue was that the sub-folders were no longer selected for syncronization. Did that and everything is good.
I do really like Touchdown however (not least of all because I can get a completely unified inbox which RoadSync doesn't seem to do) so if it would do push notifications properly I'd make the switch.
I use Touchdown flawlesly on my T-Mobile SGS3. My only issue is that the Touchdown email widget is fugly
Been using TouchDown for several years on various Android phones.
Works flawlessly on my SGSIII. I'll often see e-mail show up on my phone with seconds of it showing up in Outlook (sitting at my desk of course).
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Been using TouchDown for several years on various Android phones.
Works flawlessly on my SGSIII. I'll often see e-mail show up on my phone with seconds of it showing up in Outlook (sitting at my desk of course).
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Same here. Bought it when it launched. I use TD for all of my email, but then use the built in exchange only for contacts and my calendar.
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I been using touchdown for about a year now. The only issue I have is that email attachments get corrupted when I download the attachment and won't open. Anyone have that issue or know how to resolve
I like and have been using Touchdown since I purchased a Samsung Vibrant some years ago. IMHO there just isn't much wrong with it. I do wish it did a better job of integrating contacts and calendar ala native email on an iPhone/WinPhone7 but it does let me sync folders, download and open documents and does support multiple exchange server accounts so I'm quite pleases with it.
Yep another Touchdown user. Mail arrives instantly for me. I do have a license for Moxier and try it out as i think the interface is nicer than touchdown's but there are less options and it is slower (not receiving mail but the interface).
Just now using Touchdown tablet interface on nexus 7. Works well too.
If you're mail is from a corporate server, you might want to contact your IT dept if you're seeing lag on your phone. I believe some versions of Exchange both have issues with ActiveSync (older versions) and some of the newer ones I believe can even limit the pushing to mobile clients.
Your issue might be a server based one and have nothing to do with Touchdown itself.
I've used touchdown in my last 2 companies and it's been GREAT. The only time i saw any issue with push mail was when I tried to modify some of the peak/offpeak settings in an earlier version of touchdown... that version had a bug where if you touched the settings at all, it would never do push and would only poll... perhaps that bug still exists? My solution at the time was to wipe all the touchdown data, uninstall the app, make sure the folder on the SD card was gone, then reinstall from scratch, making sure i didn't touch any of the peak/offpeak timings or anything to do with polling.. never a problem since.
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I've used touchdown in my last 2 companies and it's been GREAT. The only time i saw any issue with push mail was when I tried to modify some of the peak/offpeak settings in an earlier version of touchdown... that version had a bug where if you touched the settings at all, it would never do push and would only poll... perhaps that bug still exists? My solution at the time was to wipe all the touchdown data, uninstall the app, make sure the folder on the SD card was gone, then reinstall from scratch, making sure i didn't touch any of the peak/offpeak timings or anything to do with polling.. never a problem since.
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Thanks for the advice. I did a re-install and without touching the settings, push was working perfectly. Then I set weekends as off-peak, push still working. Finally, set off-business hours during the week for polling, and push STILL works. So looks like I'm good now, just have to decide if I like Touchdown better or want to continue with RoadSync.
I've been using Touchdown for years. Works great. Almost always there is no delay in pushing emails.
I do note that the custom notification doesn't seem to work, as far as choosing LED alert colors.
I have been a bberry user my whole life. With the writing seemingly on the wall for bberry, Note 2 seemed like the ideal device for me -- I quite like its size, I feel that helps mitigate the loss of the physical keyboard. But I primarily use Yahoo! email and I was in for a shock when I made the switch.
It appears that there is (i) no way to push Yahoo email to the basic mail app in Android and (ii) the new Android operating system sets the shortest sync time at an agonizing 15 minutes (compared to what I believe is 5 in prior versions). After many ring around the rosy calls, with some tech people saying "well the emails should still arrive on their own relatively quickly" it seems like it has now been confirmed that it only will sync every 15 minutes (sometimes not even that if device is idling), unless I force the sync. I want a smartphone that tells ME when I have mail, not the other way around.
I've downloaded the Yahoo mail app for Android, but it is kind of crap a BIG step down from being used to using email on a bberry.
Frankly, I am very, very strongly considering chucking this and going back to my Torch. While the Note probably does everything else a lot better than a year old bberry device, and their next model will probably still be way behind the Galaxies and iPhones, email is the most important thing in a phone to me and bberry seems to blow these devices out of the water.
Or I could switch my primary email -- but I've been happily using Yahoo! for nearly 15 years.
Anyone have thoughts/advice? Am I somehow wrong in the above? Are there better options? I was so looking forward to this new device, and now I'm mostly bitterly disappointed -- feeling I have to sacrifice the most important primary function for all the internet/camera/social media bells and whistles.
Thoughs/comments/advice appreciated. I've only ever had a bberry until yesterday (though I do have an iPad and Yahoo email works just fine there).
I had the quite similar problem before, i mean I didn't get my emails quickly on my Note 2, i wondered why. But then I realized that I have the same yahoo email account set up on my iPhone and on that iPhone my emails still arrived so very quickly. Then I deleted my yahoo mail account on the iPhone and changed it to other yahoo email account so that my primary yahoo email account is only set up on my Note 2, since then my emails arrived quickly on my Note 2 and no more problem.
Just wondering maybe you have not deleted yr yahoo account on yr bberry ?
I have been using the yahoo mail app for over two years. Its development has been slow but right now it's working fine for me.
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If you want push then you need to set up the Yahoo account manually via the option Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync for the stock email app.
And yes, the Yahoo mail app for Android is crap indeed.
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For many years in the early/mid 2000's Yahoo Mail was the only service that offered push to Blackberry. It was the defacto push offering in the marketplace.
I set mine up manually through the Active Sync settings and now its push. I struggled on and off for years with that Yahoo Mail app on my Hero/EVO/NexusS/GalaxyNexus and I gave up. Some updates would trash the app and it would be a quarter till they released a fix. I'd avoid it if I were you.
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