S-OFF for SD ext? - myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I have a rooted myTouch 3G Slide running a custom mod (similar to stock with some tweaks) with S-ON
I wanted to be able to install my apps on the SD card and increase my internal memory with a 2nd partition on my SD card
I know everything on how to make the partition and the swap partition, how to format the partitions, how big to make them etc. I just want to ask:
DO I NEED TO HAVE S-OFF TO BE ABLE TO DO IT?
i recently tired very hard to do it using the Rom Manager and Link2SD as well as some other techniques such as making the partitions myself and using A2SD script with the A2SDGUI application. With just using Link2SD, i got an error that saied it cannot allocate the memory when I tried to create the boot script and when I used the A2SD script, it said that my apps were being sent to the sd card but when i rebooted, all of the apps i linked to the SD were gone and i was not able to get them back.
I've tried looking around the forums and on google but i have not been able to find a definitive answer to my question. Does my device need S-OFF or will I be able to do this with S-ON?
Thank you in advance.

bumpity?

I believe you do
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893706

actually, you don't need S-OFF to move your apps to the ext partition on your sd card. I haven't used any of the apps on market/play store myself, i've always just run the DTApp2SD script. Let me know if you need the zip for that.
@morphuex: the link you provided is for custom MTD, it will allow you to resize your phone's inner storage to fit your need, which does require S-OFF.

Oh, thought that what he was asking, must of read it wrong. :silly:

I've tried to apply dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta04 to my device running CM9 beta 3 (Jun 21 2012) version and got unbootable device. It started and got stuck at the white T-mobile screen before CM9 animation.
Maybe this was caused by having s2e installed on the device which was used to move data to sd-ext partition. So just be careful and make a prior backup just in case.
By the way, does anybody know why I get an error message like 'unable to mount /sd-ext partition. unsupported by your device' while i'm trying to make a nandriod backup using CWM recovery?

Saem persun said:
I've tried to apply dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta04 to my device running CM9 beta 3 (Jun 21 2012) version and got unbootable device. It started and got stuck at the white T-mobile screen before CM9 animation.
Maybe this was caused by having s2e installed on the device which was used to move data to sd-ext partition. So just be careful and make a prior backup just in case.
By the way, does anybody know why I get an error message like 'unable to mount /sd-ext partition. unsupported by your device' while i'm trying to make a nandriod backup using CWM recovery?
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yes, it means you don't have an sd-ext. if you do it will mount it. it will say the same error on anything that does a backup.
you do not need s-off to move apps to a created sd-ext. when my mt3gs was my daily phone i used simple2ext to manage my sd-ext. worked fine. i was using cm7.2.

makila said:
yes, it means you don't have an sd-ext. if you do it will mount it. it will say the same error on anything that does a backup.
you do not need s-off to move apps to a created sd-ext. when my mt3gs was my daily phone i used simple2ext to manage my sd-ext. worked fine. i was using cm7.2.
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This is not quite right. I had /sd-ext partition already created when I tried to make a backup. I did move there data & some apps using s2e app.
The same situation I experience right now. The ext partition does exist, but CWM doesn't mount it in backup process - "can't mount /dev/block/mmcblksomething (file already exists)" error.
Initially I partitioned my sd card using CWM. I created just ext partition only, no swap.
I use an unofficial CM9 beta4 build, rom manager version 5.0.0.8, recovery version 2.5.0.7. Should I try to flash more recent experimental version 2.5.1.4?
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Saem persun said:
This is not quite right. I had /sd-ext partition already created when I tried to make a backup. I did move there data & some apps using s2e app.
The same situation I experience right now. The ext partition does exist, but CWM doesn't mount it in backup process - "can't mount /dev/block/mmcblksomething (file already exists)" error.
Initially I partitioned my sd card using CWM. I created just ext partition only, no swap.
I use an unofficial CM9 beta4 build, rom manager version 5.0.0.8, recovery version 2.5.0.7. Should I try to flash more recent experimental version 2.5.1.4?
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yeah, i duplicated that error just now. i fired up my old mt3gs and flashed the cm9 beta4. it does give that error and won't mount my sd-ext.
i honestly haven't read enough about the cm9 for this phone to give an informed answer, sorry. i know that if i flash my backup cm7.2 everything is fine. the only difference on my phone was the rom change. I did all this on rom manager 5.0.0.8, cwm recovery 2.5.0.7.

Thank you everyone for your contributions. i will try the DT app2sd script right now and will keep you guys informed on whether or nor i was able to do it. thank you!

I got a problem. i am unable to partition my SD because the version of CWM for my phone cannot do it..(it doesnt have the option to do it)
i tried doing it from rom manager but i get an error when i try to do it, saying the signature couldnt be verified.

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[Q] CWM 3.0.0.6 and sd-ext

While in CWM and performing a backup, I always get "sd-ext not found"
Looking in the file system I don't see a folder for this, I do however see a folder called "external_sd"
Is this supposed to be the same folder, or am I missing the "sd-ext" folder?
notmyepic said:
While in CWM and performing a backup, I always get "sd-ext not found"
Looking in the file system I don't see a folder for this, I do however see a folder called "external_sd"
Is this supposed to be the same folder, or am I missing the "sd-ext" folder?
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It isn't an error, it means that you did not partition your sdcard to ext2, ext3, or ext4 (for app2sd)
jdelano said:
It isn't an error, it means that you did not partition your sdcard to ext2, ext3, or ext4 (for app2sd)
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I let CWM 3 do its thing and convert to ext4, made noob mistake and rebooted before flashing, used odin to get EB13 do-oxed, let CWM do its thing again, flashed midnight ROM, then rebooted.
Knowing what I did, is there something else I should do, or just ignore the sd-ext error?
notmyepic said:
I let CWM 3 do its thing and convert to ext4, made noob mistake and rebooted before flashing, used odin to get EB13 do-oxed, let CWM do its thing again, flashed midnight ROM, then rebooted.
Knowing what I did, is there something else I should do, or just ignore the sd-ext error?
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Its not an error, its just that you don't have an ext partition on your sd card...
The ext partition is used to store apps on the sd card (NOT in the same way froyo moves apps to sd)...so the point is that a cwm backup will also back up those apps so when you restore it you'll have your apps back. It just a message letting you know it didn't find an ext partition. For all intents and purposes, ignore it.
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squshy 7 said:
Its not an error, its just that you don't have an ext partition on your sd card...
The ext partition is used to store apps on the sd card (NOT in the same way froyo moves apps to sd)...so the point is that a cwm backup will also back up those apps so when you restore it you'll have your apps back. It just a message letting you know it didn't find an ext partition. For all intents and purposes, ignore it.
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So let me see if I understand this correctly:
If I'm on a rooted Epic with CWM3, and its converted to ext4, I don't NEED to have an sd-ext partition?

[Q] dta2sd

I flashed synergy rsl1
I have a 16 gig card partitioned per directions in thread.
I installed dta2sd and after reboot all my apps were GONE.
Where did they go?
If they are on the ext3 partition how do I look and see?
How do I get them back?
Go to terminal and type
su
a2sd reinstall
It should reset itself.
After that wipe cache & dalvik
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i think that when you partition your sd card it erases everything. did you make a backup of the sd?
ak074 said:
i think that when you partition your sd card it erases everything. did you make a backup of the sd?
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I made the partition prior to installing dta2sd.
It was only after dta2sd that all my apps are missing which i think they transfered but not being reconized.
bcarter2000 said:
Go to terminal and type
su
a2sd reinstall
It should reset itself.
After that wipe cache & dalvik
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Isnt there a FAQ or walk through somewhere to get people running Synergy RLS1 + Ext3 on their SD? If not, there needs to be one. Wiping and Flashing the ROM is easy but I can see where people get confused creating the partition then installing a2sd, etc. A good Synergy + Ext3 setup in step by step walk through would prevent a lot of these threads.
This one is pretty good when it comes to the basics of formatting/partitioning before a Synergy install.
[GUIDE][07/07/11]How to Partition your SD Card
Another
TalkAndroid Guide: Partitioning your Evo’s SD Card to Take Advantage of GingerSense ROMs
Alpine- said:
Isnt there a FAQ or walk through somewhere to get people running Synergy RLS1 + Ext3 on their SD? If not, there needs to be one. Wiping and Flashing the ROM is easy but I can see where people get confused creating the partition then installing a2sd, etc. (more accurately, just the order in which it should be done). A new user may not even know what "terminal" refers to. A good Synergy + Ext3 step by step walk through would prevent a lot of these threads. It's been discussed a ton in the Synergy thread but its so huge and bloated its hard to get anything useful out of it.
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Totally agreed!!!
Its way to confusing.
I think my partition may be messed up... Is there a way to start over from scratch? I can't even see the partition is there. I was going to remove the partition thru a windows program partition manager but it doesn't show up. Just shows up as a 14.8 card. In windows explorer it shows up as 11 gig card I know its not going to add the partition to it but... still it should have showed up in the partition manager.
Back to a2sd
I tried reinstall and repair and it won't work. I also think somehow i d/l and older version.
I tried some other commmands and i got an error that it couldn't find the correct directory or some verbage i can't remember.
a2sd repair ..... got me EXT partition not mounted
a2sd reinstall..... got me ext sd not mounted
Any suggestions on what i should do?
Windows isn't going to help you in seeing the EXT partition (since Windows doesn't natively support any Linux partitions). You'll need a Linux machine or you can try to adb into your recovery.
If you do ADB into recovery, first thing you should look for is a program called parted in /sbin. If it's there, you can use that to remove and install a new EXT partition (sorry, I don't remember the exact commands off hand).
Darktremor may not be mounting it as it may not actually see the correct block device. It really depends on the version you are using.
To find the version, type a2sd help
pholt1 said:
Totally agreed!!!
Its way to confusing.
I think my partition may be messed up... Is there a way to start over from scratch? I can't even see the partition is there. I was going to remove the partition thru a windows program partition manager but it doesn't show up. Just shows up as a 14.8 card. In windows explorer it shows up as 11 gig card I know its not going to add the partition to it but... still it should have showed up in the partition manager.
Back to a2sd
I tried reinstall and repair and it won't work. I also think somehow i d/l and older version.
I tried some other commmands and i got an error that it couldn't find the correct directory or some verbage i can't remember.
a2sd repair ..... got me EXT partition not mounted
a2sd reinstall..... got me ext sd not mounted
Any suggestions on what i should do?
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This might help...
[MOD] DarkTremor (DT) a2sd on Synergy and Kingdom ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126626
The Synergy rom has the CM a2sd script built-in so if you create an ext3 partition PRIOR TO flashing the Synergy rom, your 3rd party apps will automatically be stored on the ext3 partition upon installation. There is a specific version of DTA2SD for Synergy that can be found in the Synergy Updater app that comes preinstalled when you flash Synergy. The 'primary' reason for its use is to move the dalvik from the SD card back to internal storage and eliminate lag that may be bothersome to some people. I hope this clears up any lingering confusion. As for what happened to the apps, I can only 'assume' that the OP flashed a version of DTA2SD not specific to Synergy.
from my EVO 4G
dougjamal said:
The Synergy rom has the CM a2sd script built-in so if you create an ext3 partition PRIOR TO flashing the Synergy rom, your 3rd party apps will automatically be stored on the ext3 partition upon installation. There is a specific version of DTA2SD for Synergy that can be found in the Synergy Updater app that comes preinstalled when you flash Synergy. The 'primary' reason for its use is to move the dalvik from the SD card back to internal storage and eliminate lag that may be bothersome to some people. I hope this clears up any lingering confusion. As for what happened to the apps, I can only 'assume' that the OP flashed a version of DTA2SD not specific to Synergy.
from my EVO 4G
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Is that Synergy-specific version of DTA2SD *only* available through the Synergy Updater? I ask because I have not set-up the Synergy Updater yet (requires server addresses, etc.).
Thanks!
OK, so I figured out how to get the Synergy version through the updater.
Flashed it successfully.
Seems as though just flashing it, I lost about 130MB of internal storage. Does that sound right? I went from close to 300MB, down to about 170MB. Is the Dalvik cache that big?

[Q] CWM Recovery can't backup sd-ext partition (via Nandroid)

I created the SDCard partitions using ClockWorkMod v5.0.2.0, now when I try to take a Nandroid backup,it works through all the partitions, until sd-ext and gives the following error :
"Could not mount sd-ext. sd-ext backup may not be supported on this device. Skipping backup of sd-ext" followed by the usual "Generating md5 sum..."
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I have a 512 MB Ext .Phone recognizes the sd-ext without any problem. I have mounted and configured it using S2E.
WTH is going wrong ?Any ideas ?
Thanks
optimusodd said:
I created the SDCard partitions using ClockWorkMod v5.0.2.0, now when I try to take a Nandroid backup,it works through all the partitions, until sd-ext and gives the following error :
I have a 512 MB Ext .Phone recognizes the sd-ext without any problem. I have mounted and configured it using S2E.
WTH is going wrong ?Any ideas ?
Thanks
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S2E here, too - how did you partition the card - CWM? (I'd guess usually that shouldn't lead into problems...)
Did you also mount the partition manually in CWM? (I'm pretty sure that I didn't - but that's still an open question / if I have to / should) - what CWM version?
eventcom said:
S2E here, too - how did you partition the card - CWM? (I'd guess usually that shouldn't lead into problems...)
Did you also mount the partition manually in CWM? (I'm pretty sure that I didn't - but that's still an open question / if I have to / should) - what CWM version?
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Yep,obviously,I used CWM 5.0.2.0 for the partition of the card.
I am using CWM 5.0.2.0 for the Nandroid backup and I have also tried via ROM manager to no avail.
SD-Ext is already mounted
Hbu?Have you achieved the Nandroid backup(including ext) without any problem ?What CWM did you use ?
I just don't understand why CWM can't back it up when it was created by itslef.
Does CWM 5.0.2.0 supports ext3/4 ?
I am pretty sure I created ext3 partiton using it and now when I mount my SD card via ADB,it shows the file system as ext2
optimusodd said:
I just don't understand why CWM can't back it up when it was created by itslef.
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Have you made nandroid with cwm 5.0.2.0 ?
Yep
Then surely it looks some issue with your SD-ext,I would recommend you to repartition using minitool partition wizard,For now you could use app extractor app to restore your apps/data from nandroid.
you can try cwm 5.0.2.8 (the latest available) this is the link of the tread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566677
I know that the recovery have some problems creating / formatting partitions ext (eg creates ext4 but reformat in ext3 when you wipe), then I suggest GParted utility on the ubuntu live cd to partition the microsd.
Wasimk32 said:
Then surely it looks some issue with your SD-ext,I would recommend you to repartition using minitool partition wizard,For now you could use app extractor app to restore your apps/data from nandroid.
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BTW,I have already backed up my applications using TB and the app data should be in internal memory as it was not moved to ext.
I just want to have the recovery fixed to backup.
You can't just copy the whole SD card on the PC as it can't read the sdext# directory.
Most of the people recommend CWM for the partiton of the card and they didn't have any problem with that.Which recovery did you use ?
Doh! I am clueless
tb save the app to a folder on fat32 (microsd) You must backup this partition before reformatting the entire micro sd or use gparted to erase/formatting only the ext partition
quack75 said:
you can try cwm 5.0.2.8 (the latest available) this is the link of the tread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566677
I know that the recovery have some problems creating / formatting partitions ext (eg creates ext4 but reformat in ext3 when you wipe), then I suggest GParted utility on the ubuntu live cd to partition the microsd.
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I try to flash the recovery first.
optimusodd said:
I try to flash the recovery first.
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good idea :good:
you are s off then PC49IMG.zip is easy to use
tries but does not work for everyone else you have to use adb:highfive:
quack75 said:
tb save the app to a folder on fat32 (microsd) You must backup this partition before reformatting the entire micro sd or use gparted to erase/formatting only the ext partition
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I have already backed up my SD card on PC.
you are s off then PC49IMG.zip is easy to use
tries but does not work for everyone else you have to use adb
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I prefer FASTBOOT
I had been using cwm 5.0.2.8 for a long time with no issues while backing up and restoring nandroid including sd-ext.
But due to mirroring bug in temporary 2.5.0.7 with 5.0.2.8,i downgraded to v5.0.2.0.
From then I started to have problems in restoring nandroids made previously with v5.0.2.8.I did everything again(partitioning,backup and restore) with 5.0.2.0,and it all started to work as before again.
So,I jumped to a conclusion that if you create sd-ext with specific cwm version then you should use the same version to backup or restore nandroids.
I know this sounds silly but proved to be good in my case.I might be wrong though.
Wasimk32 said:
I had been using cwm 5.0.2.8 for a long time with no issues while backing up and restoring nandroid including sd-ext.
But due to mirroring bug in temporary 2.5.0.7 with 5.0.2.8,i downgraded to v5.0.2.0.
From then I started to have problems in restoring nandroids made previously with v5.0.2.8.I did everything again(partitioning,backup and restore) with 5.0.2.0,and it all started to work as before again.
So,I jumped to a conclusion that if you create sd-ext with specific cwm version then you should use the same version to backup or restore nandroids.
I know this sounds silly but proved to be good in my case.I might be wrong though.
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my experience with cwm 5.0.2.8 I restore old backups made with 4.0.1.4 without any problems and found it very useful for advanced restore
Flashed recovery 5.0.2.8,now when i try to backup(nandroid) it goes like this :
Backing up boot image...
Backing up recovery image...
Backing up system...
MildlyAlarming.ogg
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Nothing happens after that(waited for 30 mints) and when i try to reboot the device it gets stuck on htc logo for few mints and then boot into recovery.
Doh!Seriously,I am fed up with this ****.
optimusodd said:
Flashed recovery 5.0.2.8,now when i try to backup(nandroid) it goes like this :
Nothing happens after that(waited for 30 mints) and when i try to reboot the device it gets stuck on htc logo for few mints and then boot into recovery.
Doh!Seriously,I am fed up with this ****.
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best bet is to re partition.
sorry for the late reply
optimusodd said:
Most of the people recommend CWM for the partiton of the card and they didn't have any problem with that.Which recovery did you use ?
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I'm using 4.0.1.4 - by accident because of that wrong PC49IMG file in the index thread and I'm really too lazy to update.
Re. your problems: There are a few reports that CWM (all versions) sometimes fails with wiping/formatting (or does it a bit dirty) so I'd guess this very likely could also happen with partitioning (if I'm correct the partitions will be wiped and formatted also, then). I really would just repartition again - and afterwards I'd do a complete wipe/format of the sd-ext - just to make sure...
Keep in mind that a sdcard is not a hard drive...
Hello, first calm down, you have just installed a recovery
second probably the trouble (as you have already said) is the card, the formatting you? if you do not want to lose the data on your ext partition with gparted can copy them like a fat partition
even if given the situation I suggest you start from scratch. deep Formatting
partition with ubuntu live cd and flash the rom (I understand that will not boot up right? The ext partition is recognized as the first boot). There is a possibility that the micro sd does not work well anyway good luck I hope I can help you
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[Q] INT2EXT4+ - Same amount of internal memory

Hi all!
I just created an sd-ext partition (ext4) on my sd-card and flashed the INT2EXT4+ script, but it doesn't seem to work.
What I did:
- Go into recovery
- Mount /system
- Installed the INT2EXT4+ script from my sd-card
- Formatted the sd-ext partition
- Rebooted my phone
I've done this a couple of times, but I still have the same amount of internal memory as before I flashed the script. (Before using this script, I tried using Link2SD but that had the same problem..)
And yes, I have init.d enabled and busybox installed and the script is located in the init.d folder.
Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
Btw, I'm using Maclaw's AOSP ICS Final 2.
You may refer to here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590807
Try partitioning in CWM. I got S2E to work on CM7 in this way.
cegrade said:
You may refer to here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590807
Try partitioning in CWM. I got S2E to work on CM7 in this way.
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I tried the script/app without repartitioning my SD-card via CWM (I did it via Minitool Partition Wizard, so I didn't have to format my sd-card first) and it still doesn't work.. Should repartitioning via CWM fix the problem?
And btw, in the app description it says "Works on Cyanogenmod........". Since I'm not using Cyanogenmod, this app shouldn't even work, right?
Sorry if I'm being dumb now... :/
Sorry but I don't know if it works on CM rom. Others may know the answer.
I also tried Minitool Partition Wizard but the phone didn't relaize the partition. Then, I tried CWM and it worked.
cegrade said:
Sorry but I don't know if it works on CM rom. Others may know the answer.
I also tried Minitool Partition Wizard but the phone didn't relaize the partition. Then, I tried CWM and it worked.
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Alright, I'll try that soon then and post the result here!
I don't want to format my sd-card.. :crying:

[Q] Boot structure

Hi, I am a total newbie and I rooted my phone (HTC Desire) and have obviously misread some instruction as I seem to have created and Sd-ext partition on the internal drive instead of the external.
I installed JB4.1.1 which is nice and I like it but whenever I try to use the camera I get a "Gallery closed" error. I'm wondering if these can be linked and if the sd-ext partition shouldn't be there? Perhaps the gallery is trying to save in the wrong place or something? I am clutching at straws to thi problem.
How can I safely remove this partition and reclaim it back if it shouldn't be there?
Sorry for being a complete tube!
Malk
How did u manage to make an ext partition on the internal?
Tell us everything you have done.
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I think it is on the internal????
I went into recovery and created it?
Options I have are:-
mount /data
mount /sdcard
mount /system
mount /sd-ext
Malk
malkthealk said:
I think it is on the internal????
I went into recovery and created it?
Options I have are:-
mount /data
mount /sdcard
mount /system
mount /sd-ext
Malk
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I highly doubt you made the partition on your internal. That would be difficult if not impossible.
Im guessing you just incorrectly made the partition.
Are you s-off? If so download the 4ext recovery app from http://4ext.net/. Install the apk and choose Online Install | Upgrade
It will ask if your phone is the HTC Desire GSM. Say yes, unless your phone isnt. (then go to the right forum )
Then you will see a list of all the different versions. Click on the latest one, and then install. It will tell you if it flashed succesfully, and then you can exit the app. To confirm it installed: turn off the phone, then turn it back on using power button + volume down. Then in bootloader select recovery. 4ext should come up instead of cwm.
Once you successfully have 4ext recovery installed look at this guide to see how to properly make the ext partition. Use the 4ext method and start at step [4].
Finally after you have done that, i would recommend doing a full wipe (everything except sd card) and reflashing the rom.
Many thanks, I'll try this. Good to know I couldn't screw anything up
Malk

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