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Hey future Evo owners. A lof of talk has been going around to say that the phone is not worth it unless you live in a 4G area, so I was curious if you guys live in a 4G area now, in an area that will soon be 4G (like NYC and LA this summer), or in a 3G area. I could not find how to make a survey, so I am just going to post the question...
I am in a 4G soon area.
Sprint posted that the Orlando Florida area will be getting 4G by end of summer
I don't live or work in a 4G area, however it's only about 25 minutes away (Tacoma, wa) so whenever I go to the "Big City" I'll have 4G.
Well worth it to me.
It'll probably bleed down here soon enough anyway.
the huge 4.3 screen is worth it! your eyes will thanks you!
Portland, OR resident here... the city where it all started
4G coverage here should be quite good since WiMAX has been live the area for ~1.5 years or so.
Live in Atlanta, so I'm covered with 4G. Pretty excited.
I go to school in a 4G area 9 months out of the year, but right now I'm stick in a town that probably won't get 4G for quite some time. Honestly, I doubt I will ever use it outside of showing off to friends thanks to campus wifi and 4G's terrible signal penetration.
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In Oklahoma with 3g until next month when I am moving out to Vegas 4g all the way.
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In Oklahoma with 3g until next month when I am moving out to Vegas 4g all the way.
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Congrats dude, I lived in vegas for awhile, I miss it :/
I'm in phoenix, no 4G here(i know, 5th largest city in the US or something and no plans even, wtf.
I was surprised to find 3 cites in North Carolina have 4G coverage. Not exactly disappointed though...
I wanted the Evo for the phone, and couldn't care less about 4G until I realized last night that I have Clear coverage at work and am on its border at home! Now I'm completely overwhelmed!
I can't wait until tomorrow!
Now that I've had the GN for a couple weeks and am back on Verizon I have some observations about cell coverage. I've had cell phones since 1995 and for most of that time (1995-2008) I was on Verizon. I traveled a good bit so having a carrier with good nation wide coverage was important.
But that was before I had a smart phone and in 2008 I got my first smart phone, the iPhone 3G. Switching to the iPhone meant dropping Verizon and going with ATT -- something I wasn't happy about due to past issues I had with ATT. When I first got the iPhone 3G service was still kind of new and the talk was that you had to turn 3G off to get good battery life out of the iPhone. Within a few months the 3G coverage by ATT was pretty good and I didn't worry about battery life all that much
Move into 2010 and I switched the iPhone for an HTC Evo 4G and, of course, that meant dropping ATT in favor of Sprint. The 4G (WiMax) coverage that Sprint provided was almost nonexistent in Jun 2008 but Sprint was promising a rapid roll out of WiMax so I waited. Turns out that in the 15 months I had the Evo Sprint (Clear) did a sh*ty job of deploying Wimax and as my job puts me on the road 85% of the time I was able to judge there coverage in many parts of the country.
OK, so on 12/23/2011 I picked up the GN and am now on Verizon again. In that time I've been in Salt Lake City, Atlanta and Albany NY and I've had 4G LTE coverage everywhere I've been. SLC got WiMax at the end of Jun 2010 and the WiMax coverage was spotty more than 15 months later. I wasn't able to find a place in the greater SLC are that I couldn't get LTE...
As I said I travel a lot and am at present working at a FAB in Malta NY, about 25 miles north of Albany in a tiny little berg that could pass for Mayberry. My Evo had terrible coverage here with seldom more than a single bar and often times no coverage at all -- you know, the kind of coverage where you step outside to see if that helps. But, in this tiny little berg my GN is getting 5 bars of LTE with over 17Mbps -- consistent. I'm even getting 5 bars inside the FAB.
So, my take on this is that... Sprint has crumby service or no service whereas ATT and Verizon have good coverage. Verizon started rolling out 4G about 6 months after Sprint started rolling out 4G but in less time Verizon has long since passed Sprint by.
Now don't get me wrong, there are thing about the the way Verizon and ATT do business that pisses me off and on paper they cost more but they are light years better than Sprint.
In the time since I've had smart phones I've traveled to: California (all over), Virginia (all over), North Carolina, Texas (Dallas/Richardson mostly), Idaho (Boise), New York (all over), Utah (all over), Nevada, and many other places so I think I can say with some experience that my coverage analysis is based on more than one area. I could never get 4G on my Evo at ANY airport at any time -- I've been able to get LTE at EVERY airport so far!
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I could have sworn I read something somewhere about Sprint or ATT starting to roll out LTE, I guess it's the future standard.
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Sprint WiMax runs at 2.5GHz which is really really crappy spectrum. There's plenty of capacity per MHz but it attenuates really quickly and has terrible in-building penetration. Verizon's 700MHz LTE spectrum attenuates much more slowly and penetrates walls much better. To cover the same area, Sprint has to deploy 3x-5x as many cell sites as Verizon.
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I could have sworn I read something somewhere about Sprint or ATT starting to roll out LTE, I guess it's the future standard.
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Sprint has announced it will start rolling out LTE in 2012. AT&T is already rolling out LTE.
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Sprint WiMax runs at 2.5GHz which is really really crappy spectrum. There's plenty of capacity per MHz but it attenuates really quickly and has terrible in-building penetration. Verizon's 700MHz LTE spectrum attenuates much more slowly and penetrates walls much better. To cover the same area, Sprint has to deploy 3x-5x as many cell sites as Verizon.
Sprint has announced it will start rolling out LTE in 2012. AT&T is already rolling out LTE.
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Yep, WiMax drops off more significantly inside due to the spectrum. Where I live in SLC the Sprint tower closest to me is just over a mile away and inside my apartment it's maybe one bar and often no bars of WiMax and even outside it seldom rises above one bar. That WiMax may need 2X or more the towers to provide the same coverage is only half the problem -- the other half is that Sprint seems to have less than half as many towers!
I think ATT will be relatively aggressive in rolling out LTE, but Sprint, well, I wouldn't hold my breath!
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Verizon has done a great job of not only getting LTE in many markets, but also completely saturating that market and surrounding areas. I used to work in a suburb just outside of Minneapolis. WiMax was nonexistent at my work. I didn't even bother connecting to wimax most of the time because it would connect to one tower and drop before it picked up the next tower. With Verizon I have yet to leave 4g until I'm surrounded by corn fields. At my old employer the only one with 4g service was Verizon. We had wifi but only a T1 pipe to share with the entire office. Things got a little slow when everyone is streaming Pandora.
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Verizon has done a great job of not only getting LTE in many markets, but also completely saturating that market and surrounding areas. I used to work in a suburb just outside of Minneapolis. WiMax was nonexistent at my work. I didn't even bother connecting to wimax most of the time because it would connect to one tower and drop before it picked up the next tower. With Verizon I have yet to leave 4g until I'm surrounded by corn fields. At my old employer the only one with 4g service was Verizon. We had wifi but only a T1 pipe to share with the entire office. Things got a little slow when everyone is streaming Pandora.
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I noticed this as well. When Verizon rolled out LTE in Chicago, they rolled it out as far as my school in Kenosha, Wisconsin which is at least 50 miles away from Chicago. A pleasant surprise.
No doubt Sprint has struggled and will continue to struggle. WiMax was the wrong bet. Sprint has racked up debt, recently cut back unlimited data plans for air cards/hotspots, and will do the same for mobile phones. On top of that, their current broadband network stinks and LTE roll-out will be very slow. I wouldn't sign up with Sprint any time soon.
If you've been waiting to see if your 'hood would be next up for Sprint to bless with a shiny new*LTE networkwe've got some potentially good news: by mid-2012 both Kansas City (regardless of what side of the Kansas / Missouri border you happen to be on) and Baltimore will be online. Those two cities will bring the total number of Sprint LTE markets to six, as they join the previously announced Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Atlanta. The carrier and CEO Dan Hesse refused to be any more specific about a launch date on today's earnings call, though, we can tell you the service should be launching alongside the*Galaxy Nexus,LG Viper*and a Sierra Wireless mobile hotspot capable of connecting via CDMA, WiMAX and LTE. Check out the PR after the break for more details.Show full PR textBaltimore and Kansas City Sprint Customers to Benefit from 4G LTE and 3G Enhancements in 2012Sprint adds to the list of cities to benefit from new and improved network technology by mid-year
Source: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...markets/&category=classic&icid=eng_latest_art
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I'm excited since I live in Overland Park. That being said, I won't be enjoying the LTE too much since I have this phone. Guess I'll start saving now.
Oooooo yea!! Will get LTE at my dads business when i go to work for him
I think they should put lte networks into markets that dont have wimax yet. Hint hint Green Bay WI!
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I was a bit shocked KC wasn't announced from the start. I knew or wouldn't take long. I bet they already have lte in Overland Park so they could test the new phones. Plus, the improved cdma will be great. I have horrible signal in my neighborhood(Briarcliff). The airrave helps a lot. Tye funny thing is they mentioned KU vs MU in the press release even though we all know that the chances of playing anymore are slim. Anyways, it is a pointless rivalry. KU sucks just like Johnson County and the rest of those cake eaters. Lol
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Im in independence, mo. and my signal, 4g has always been excellent...so i hope its the same with LTE ...there r perks living close to sprint headquarters
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Baltimore fist pump .......it seems they are lighting the switch to city's that have wimax already.
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I was told a while back it was kind of going to rollout in reverse meaning markets that don't have 4g would get the LTE first then the markets with WiMax would follow. ...in New Jersey now and the 3g has been great here. I haven't tested 4g much since I have Fios in the house..edit..I would imagine the major cities would have to follow very soon after because they need that advertising money...meaning L.A. and New York probably wont be far behind. Jersey represent!
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I was told a while back it was kind of going to rollout in reverse meaning markets that don't have 4g would get the LTE first then the markets with WiMax would follow. ...in New Jersey now and the 3g has been great here. I haven't tested 4g much since I have Fios in the house..edit..I would imagine the major cities would have to follow very soon after because they need that advertising money...meaning L.A. and New York probably wont be far behind. Jersey represent!
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When Hess anounced lte first like 5 months ago when they said that they would be going to lte they would start with areas that never got wimax and what do you know sprint fuxing lies again .... no phoenix on the list ...... but all cities with wimax .... stupid back asswards sprint ...you would think when they were testing lte it was phoenix they tested in with clear ....but don't announce it as one of their first cities ...6th largest in nation always screwed
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I was told a while back it was kind of going to rollout in reverse meaning markets that don't have 4g would get the LTE first then the markets with WiMax would follow. ...in New Jersey now and the 3g has been great here. I haven't tested 4g much since I have Fios in the house..edit..I would imagine the major cities would have to follow very soon after because they need that advertising money...meaning L.A. and New York probably wont be far behind. Jersey represent!
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there's a network vision site in north jersey right now. just googled it... Branchburg, NJ. about an hour drive for me.. but i've been considering making the drive to test it.
I'm fortunate to be in an area where sprint has great coverage, and speeds are really good. I'm usually getting bandwidth test speeds of over 1 mb/s, and sometimes even crest the 2 mb/s mark in the evenings. I rarely use 4G, one because my desk is on the other side of the building from the tower, so the signal barely makes it to my desk, and at home, it isn't all that great, either. I'll be curious to see if my data speeds improve on 3G once the NV initiative hits my neck of the woods. I'm also one of the first metros listed to get LTE when it comes out, but will wait to get a compatiable device until the Galaxy Nexus hits CL/Ebay for a decent discount.
http://www.sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/Sprint/lte_310sprint
It's not official because those are just test towers that Sprint is keeping lit, but it gives us NYC guys some hope that LTE will fully roll out sooner than later. Since I've been checking, the area around Bryant park popped up, and both Bronx/Harlem coverage seems to have grown. I've had the Note II since launch and this thing is just a beast, the only thing holding it back is LTE coverage. When it's hooked up to WiFi it absolutely decimates any other smartphone that I've played with.
This roll out is too slow I heard theres really only one test tower in Bronx . I live in Brooklyn and spend a lot of time in Manhattan seems like ill have to take a train ride to the Bronx just to get a little taste of LTE.
The test towers in Harlem are very real. My cop buddy was on patrol there and found it while driving around yesterday. Personally, I'm not a fan of going to sketchy neighborhoods so I'm going to check the spot by Bryant Park next time I'm in that area.
Im sorry 38,579+ towers in two years slow? About as slow as a rabbit on speed. Also, with the investment they just got. They'll most likely be slapping rockets and skates to the rabbit.
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For the Queens guys (like myself), it looks like LTE is starting to trickle out in the Whitestone/College Point area (weird the map shows the strongest coverage on/around the Whitestone Bridge...lol). I'm not sure if this is an error, but being that I take that bridge all the time and live only 10 minutes or so from the area, I'm going to go check it out this weekend. Will report back with my findings.
For the Bronx guys it would seem your coverage area has grown significantly since I first posted. You lucky bastards.
LTE has to come in Staten Island soon and North Jersey!
the 3g is making me miss my dial up modem from 99, im in staten island and im getting 28 down/ 300 up on a regular basis now, that horrible, i even might just esn swap back to my s1/s2 for go back to wimax
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the 3g is making me miss my dial up modem from 99, im in staten island and im getting 28 down/ 300 up on a regular basis now, that horrible, i even might just esn swap back to my s1/s2 for go back to wimax
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Qft.... Sad but true.
4G / LTE @ harlem
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Qft.... Sad but true.
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along Broadway Ave...137th street City College [1] train subway station
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along Broadway Ave...137th street City College [1] train subway station
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< = Jealous :silly: .. Still sitting on 3G, They are scheduled to start in my city in a week or two... CANNOT WAIT
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along Broadway Ave...137th street City College [1] train subway station
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This is looking good. Slower than AT&T and Verizon but still good.
Got my first taste of LTE when I was doing some work @ Bronx HS of Science last week but I wasn't too impressed to say the least.
Clocked 4M down and 1.5M up (that's the best of 5 tests too), nowhere near my expectations. I've easily gotten those speeds on WiMax.
I'm heading to Manhattan on Friday. How's the data looking for MSG & W 63rd ish areas?
Bro I'm in SI too and I have such ****ty service on most of the Island. Forget LTE, I would like some decent 3g
I live close whitePlains road lm about toTake a walk to checkout the speeds
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Nice to see it's spreading closer and closer to me...Then I won't have to go outside or be by my window :laugh:
The most I get by my house is 9+ down & about 3 up.
I did hit 31.67mbps down & 10.43mbps up when I was down by Jerome and Burnside in the BX earlier. That was saweeeet!
Seems like Sprint is showing the most love to the hoods 1st. Burnside wow!!
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Need my Upper East Side fix! Let's get some LTE testing love over on E70th and 1st.
I was in a area of S.I. where a new tower or a upgraded tower was in place. If you go outside you get full 3g speeds. If you go inside a building my 3g went from full 3g down to 4-5kBps....terrible...
No LTE in brooklyn
I go between Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Queens not one drop of LTE. I was by MSG no LTE I wanna know how sprints giving the BX LTE but yet not manhattan seems ass backwards.
Does anyone know if the Sprint 4G LTE will be in central Cali? I'm between Sacramento and Fresno and was wondering when and if we'll be on the new network.I want to wait it out,but everyday it gets harder with these crappy data speeds.I can't even use Pandora on 3G.It's horrible.
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Does anyone know if the Sprint 4G LTE will be in central Cali? I'm between Sacramento and Fresno and was wondering when and if we'll be on the new network.I want to wait it out,but everyday it gets harder with these crappy data speeds.I can't even use Pandora on 3G.It's horrible.
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Stockton 209 right here!!, yea its ****ty here so I switched carriers
You put the gs2 on page plus?
I think central California is getting it sometime next summer. AFAIK that area is flooded with wimax
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You put the gs2 on page plus?
I think central California is getting it sometime next summer. AFAIK that area is flooded with wimax
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i know that but where i work i dont have signal inside our building and it kills my battery
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Stockton 209 right here!!, yea its ****ty here so I switched carriers
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Modesto here :good: but i wanna wait to see what happens before i switch.Plus my contract is up in july ,so i'll stick it out for now.
You're part of the Central Valley markets (I don't know if you're upper or lower with your vague location) and we have not begun yet to my knowledge. I've seen some workers working on some local towers in sacramento but nothing definite yet.
I've asked Robert aka s4gru and he has said that the earliest that work will begin is around the end of december (around now) and early january, most likely by feb-march, definite by may/june.
We're lucky Samsung is our NV OEM because they haul ass in the markets they've been deploying at. Hell, look at San Francisco market & South Bay market & Chicago market, Puerto Rico Markets compared to those of Alcatel-Lucent and Ericsson. They're well ahead of Ericsson and Alcatel-Lucent (Southern california OEM) in terms of actually going out there and getting things up and running. So once they begin, it should be done in no time.
Keep on the lookout for Sprint NV RRU's. The updated one basically have a box mounted directly behind a panel and is unique to sprint in terms of placement.
P.S. Sigh... NV is only a 30 minute drive down i80 from sac.. ahhhhhhhhh damnnnn you vallejo and vacavilleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...
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You're part of the Central Valley markets (I don't know if you're upper or lower with your vague location) and we have not begun yet to my knowledge. I've seen some workers working on some local towers in sacramento but nothing definite yet.
I've asked Robert aka s4gru and he has said that the earliest that work will begin is around the end of december (around now) and early january, most likely by feb-march, definite by may/june.
We're lucky Samsung is our NV OEM because they haul ass in the markets they've been deploying at. Hell, look at San Francisco market & South Bay market & Chicago market, Puerto Rico Markets compared to those of Alcatel-Lucent and Ericsson. They're well ahead of Ericsson and Alcatel-Lucent (Southern california OEM) in terms of actually going out there and getting things up and running. So once they begin, it should be done in no time.
Keep on the lookout for Sprint NV RRU's. The updated one basically have a box mounted directly behind a panel and is unique to sprint in terms of placement.
P.S. Sigh... NV is only a 30 minute drive down i80 from sac.. ahhhhhhhhh damnnnn you vallejo and vacavilleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...
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im in modesto and i saw the fairfield and vacaville so we cant be too far away i hope.
The thing is Sammy doesn't care about market boundaries down in the bay. Wherever the towers are ready, they'll get to it.
It's soooooo close yet so far! At least we don't live at Davis. NV LTE literally a short drive away for them... anyways. All we can do is just wait and watch our local towers... =\
Side note : They're really hauling ass in the bay Area. Consecutive weeks of 50+ verified / completed towers so far.
Best site to find out. www.s4gru.com
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Most likely next year.
Salinas Santa Cruz and Watsonville are getting it before us.What a joke.
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Salinas Santa Cruz and Watsonville are getting it before us.What a joke.
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Central valley is a joke. Its all about Los Angeles. Lol I'm just joking guys. I've got akot of family in C.V.
But yeah it will probably be mid next year.
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Central valley is a joke. Its all about Los Angeles. Lol I'm just joking guys. I've got akot of family in C.V.
But yeah it will probably be mid next year.
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Psht. At least we have Samsung doing our rollout. Look at them haul ass in the South bay and San Fran market compared to puny Alcatel-Lucent down there LA
Only problem is they need to start our market....
I'm still here waiting for Orange County to get some LTE goodness. Right when it does, absolutely going to take advantage of the network and switch devices.
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I'm still here waiting for Orange County to get some LTE goodness. Right when it does, absolutely going to take advantage of the network and switch devices.
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Yups, same here. But I'll probably wait until the Galaxy S4 first comes out.
Take this with a grain of salt but a Sprint store employee told me a couple days ago that LTE wont reach Orange County until April. He said Sprint employees hold regular meetings and he got that info from an internal Sprint memo. Hope he's right.
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Salinas Santa Cruz and Watsonville are getting it before us.What a joke.
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Haha, we already have at least two LTE towers in Santa Cruz right now!
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Haha, we already have at least two LTE towers in Santa Cruz right now!
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Now that sucks i can't wait til we get it.
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Haha, we already have at least two LTE towers in Santa Cruz right now!
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Where are the two towers?
When you go to sprint coverage http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?ECID=vanity:coverage zip code 95060 and it does not show any 4G LTE coverage?
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Where are the two towers?
When you go to sprint coverage http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?ECID=vanity:coverage zip code 95060 and it does not show any 4G LTE coverage?
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Check http://s4gru.com or the sensorly app or open signals app. Sprints coverage map won't show anything until the market is officially announced as "live"
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Hey guys there is 4g at Fresno City collage. But eh I could care less I'm far from it. I'm at meckenly and 99 there is almost no service. We have bad service here. People that have sprint here are un happy. I'm moving to cricket. I could never get at anywhere in Fresno more then 1mb connection. When I had Cricket at my old place it was almost same speed as Verizon.