Safe recovery! - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

okay here's my question is there 1 safe recovery I can use for gingerbread and ICS so I don't have to keep changing recoveries?
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Could be wrong but at this point in time, I wouldn't count on anyone saying "Yes".. to that question.
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davidstjohn1 said:
okay here's my question is there 1 safe recovery I can use for gingerbread and ICS so I don't have to keep changing recoveries?
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Well recovery is packed into the kernel, you can not use the same kernel for both operating systems lol. The phone simply will not boot a GB kernel (linux kernel 2.6.x) with an ICS Kernel (linux kernel3.0.x).
For flashing from ICS i am on CM9 so i just use the safe recovery thats been in the nightlies for awhile, alpha6 as well. TWRP is available for both TW and AOSP i believe. Agat's recovery is available for TW etc.
I think the question you should have asked is which ICS recoveries are safe? Keep in mind a zip with an unsafe updater binary is not safe on a safe recovery except those like TWRP that replace the updater binary when flashing.

Thanks, I'm learning a lot the last week this is def cool learning all of this. Thanks. I didn't realize the kernel was part of the recovery. I come from the Evo 4G and things were really much simpler.
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Yeah the recovery is packed in the initramfs of the kernel on our phone.

I won't say yes but, Agat recovery had allowed me to backup, restore, flash ICS to ICS and even wipe. i am not going to mislead you but it had worked for me everytime. I hard bricked using other recoveries in ICS. Agat is my recovery of choice. I would wait if not confident... Word on the street is that source code is out.
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davidstjohn1 said:
Thanks, I'm learning a lot the last week this is def cool learning all of this. Thanks. I didn't realize the kernel was part of the recovery. I come from the Evo 4G and things were really much simpler.
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Throw some of the stuff you remember about the evo out the wind and keep an open mind about learning how Samsung works. I came from the evo as well and believe me you made a good choice. Learn odin it can be your best friend. Also pick up a jig just in case you need one, they are only a few dollars on ebay.
Good Luck

RainMotorsports said:
Well recovery is packed into the kernel, you can not use the same kernel for both operating systems lol. The phone simply will not boot a GB kernel (linux kernel 2.6.x) with an ICS Kernel (linux kernel3.0.x).
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Not to nitpick but I think you meant you can't boot a GB ROM(not kernel) with a ICS kernel or a ICS ROM with a GB kernel. And also you can, I've seen 2.6.x kernels booting ICS frameworks, it just requires some mods.
For flashing from ICS i am on CM9 so i just use the safe recovery thats been in the nightlies for awhile, alpha6 as well. TWRP is available for both TW and AOSP i believe. Agat's recovery is available for TW etc.
I think the question you should have asked is which ICS recoveries are safe? Keep in mind a zip with an unsafe updater binary is not safe on a safe recovery except those like TWRP that replace the updater binary when flashing.
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The CM9 ROM has all EMMC erases disabled so it is technically "safe". And I believe that there are a few instances where TWRP doesn't manage to replace the update-binary.

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after flashing AOKP, no CWM, only Android System Recovery

first time I flashed aokp it was all gravy until I tried to boot into recovery, I got the Android System Recovery. I got scared and I read around and ended up odin'ing back to stock and flashing another rom.
I really like aokp so I wanted to try it again. I made very sure I followed the directions, I did not flash from an ICS recovery. I try booting into recovery to see if it worked this time and sure enough, there is android system recovery again, what am I doing wrong?
I searched for this too and saw that someone said to reinstall the packages and reboot, and do it again or something like that and it would boot into CWM, but that was for a different phone so I wasnt gonna try that.
Can I just run the eg4tauto.zip and isntall el26 with cwm to get recovery back and be good, or do I need to odin?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
krook250 said:
first time I flashed aokp it was all gravy until I tried to boot into recovery, I got the Android System Recovery. I got scared and I read around and ended up odin'ing back to stock and flashing another rom.
You need to read the OP in the thread.
I really like aokp so I wanted to try it again. I made very sure I followed the directions, I did not flash from an ICS recovery. I try booting into recovery to see if it worked this time and sure enough, there is android system recovery again, what am I doing wrong?
I searched for this too and saw that someone said to reinstall the packages and reboot, and do it again or something like that and it would boot into CWM, but that was for a different phone so I wasnt gonna try that.
Can I just run the eg4tauto.zip and isntall el26 with cwm to get recovery back and be good, or do I need to odin?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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There is no cwm on aokp codename etc for a reason ....to stop people from bring stupid and bricking ....don't use a ics kernel with cwm for anything .... Use el26 to flash any ROM u need and when you want to go to another use mobile Odin or regular Odin to flash el26 kernel again and boot into cwm .... El26 is a GB kernel and won't boot a ics ROM ....then you can flash anything GB or ics
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thanks for your response, but I think I am more confused, I was trying to flash a different modem. when I am not connected to 4g, my data is terrible, with 4g, I am all good. I was going to try a different modem. In the OP, for modems it says this:
Modems
FC18 Modem: DOWNLOAD
Flash through Stock CWM Recovery OR pull the modem.bin out of the .zip file and flash in the Phone option in Odin(mobile Odin doesnt flash modem)
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You probably should flash back to a touch wiz ROM.....you can Odin the el29 tar or one click from sfhub .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
you can Odin the modem and then update profile and prl in tw then you can flash the el26 cwm http://www.mediafire.com/?hkydca9ob98z89m
and go back to aokp or codename etc
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sorry if this is a dumb questions, but what if I get stuck in a boot loop and I have no recovery? just go into download mode and odin my way out?
one other thing, I started flashing ics roms with venum ice and flashed to mijjz ics and caulks and others and never had a problem, was I just lucky so far? I don't recall mijjz or venum's installation instructions saying I needed to odin back to stock before flashing. Sorry for the noob questions, but I've read a bunch and just trying to piece it all together. I read so I don't brick, but then I end up with more questions.
I'm also wondering about this I've spent a good deal of time trying to put the time line of the et4g together and I think I got most of it....just got my shiny white et4g two days ago my wife has had hers. for about 4 mo. shes much less fearless when it comes to flashing on this phone. (however shes settled in on build 27 of aokp, and I doubts shes gonna be flashing anytime too soon.) I'm coming over from my NS4G which always had clear cut rules to flashing! CWM all day. The only thing(s) I ever had to watch for was is it aosp, or not? An do I do a wipe or not? (I got in the habit of wiping just to be safe, and man I flash with the best of them! At least 2 times a week)
OK, OK sorry about the ramblings of my history my real questions are:
A) So Im sitting on alpha 2 of CM9 (nice piece of work I must Say) I made sure I was in the green, and had everything lined up to flash this one! went smooth of course. It wasn't until after my flash that I tried to make a nandroid....I get why theres no clockwork! but I'm totally clueless on how to back up with out it, or if you even can make one with stock recovery?
Can I keep CM9, and flash a kernel with rouge recovery to the make a nandroid? Or is there another way to go about this (I like to make nandroid often as a easy way to restore data after I play around with stuff and brake Wifi or what have you, and scrap unneeded back ups as I find out what I can and cant do with MY phone.)
I really really love Cryogen 9 (yeah its not as far along as I would like it to be ex- cm7 for the ns4g or kangs aokp builds) But there a team I'm familiar with. An I like there stuff, but I'm really nerves about where I go from here if/when i decide to change to something else.What are the guide lines for flashing from cm9 to say another ICS build? and is CM9 compatible with other kernels or only the one that is came packed with?
B) can someone straight up make a new clean thread with proper flashing tech. and no filler or out dated info then the have a mod stick it and close it>>>>simplify this for those of us that know what were doing....until things go funk for some reason, or another and that leaves ,us we are completely lost!
Well after wrighting my first novel (joke haha) I would like to thank everyone thats put up there time and money to make phones OURS and more powerful then what hit the shelfs an allowing me to get the most customized electronic device I have ever seen with the exception of my PC. Clapping
If you want to backup your system with the stock cm9a2 kernel, just mobile odin/odin el26 kernel/recovery, boot into cwm, flash stock cm9a2 kernel, now while still in cwm do a nand backup. That way it will be a full backup.
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I know I'm a little late, but there is CWM for the AOKP rom. The FC07 BootImg on the e4gtuato.zip file worked fine for me on the older version which was based off of FC15.
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I know I'm a little late, but there is CWM for the AOKP rom. The FC07 BootImg on the e4gtuato.zip file worked fine for me on the older version which was based off of FC15.
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I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.
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I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.
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Read this thread it happens when using ics kernel with cwm .and then tell us u want to use cwm with a ics kernel.....it bricks phones please read it and understand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
That's why people are using Odin to get el26 GB on their phones to flash with
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krook250 said:
I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.
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If you have been having luck thats fine but I can not see how you have not noticed int eh OP of the ICS roms and the OP of the recoveries it gives you instructions on what to do and what not to do. Also there are quite a few threads in here about the horror stories of the now infamous blue light of death. Once again if you have escaped this then maybe you should tell us your secret to success. Honestly the few extra steps it takes to ensure your phone stays your phone is well worth it.
Like Epix has posted please read up a little just incase something happens to you or anyone else who claims no problems so you know how to help yourself. Hopefully we wont have to see a I Think I just bricked my Phone thread from you.
Odin EL26 CWM and basically everything else stays the same after that... except you would need to either reflash the ICS rom you are using or have a copy of the kernel readily available
Epix4G said:
Read this thread it happens when using ics kernel with cwm .and then tell us u want to use cwm with a ics kernel.....it bricks phones please read it and understand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
That's why people are using Odin to get el26 GB on their phones to flash with
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I've read that, hence the reason for my posts. I am not going to load cwm and start flashing away. From aokp, I will odin back to GB before I flash any new ICS roms. I also won't be flashing between other ICS roms, even ones I have done before with no problems. I odin every time now, but it is putting a serious damper on my flashing addiction.
I could flash 3 roms in the time it takes me to odin back to GB, lol!
krook250 said:
I've read that, hence the reason for my posts. I am not going to load cwm and start flashing away. From aokp, I will odin back to GB before I flash any new ICS roms. I also won't be flashing between other ICS roms, even ones I have done before with no problems. I odin every time now, but it is putting a serious damper on my flashing addiction.
I could flash 3 roms in the time it takes me to odin back to GB, lol!
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I don't Odin to stock all the time I mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and then boot strait into recovery as the GB kernel won't boot the ics ROM and then I flash from there but I also u caulks format all too ....
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Epix4G said:
I don't Odin to stock all the time I mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and then boot strait into recovery as the GB kernel won't boot the ics ROM and then I flash from there but I also u caulks format all too ....
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Thus is what I used to do at first myself I would flash the CWM kernel then just nandroid back my old rom and keep it moving. It just basically seems that as long as you do everything in a GB kernel based recovery as long as it is not the Touch recovery you should be OK
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I am gonna look into mobile Odin so i don't have to be sitting at a PC to do work. So if I go back to gb and get my modem biz straightened out then flash an ics rom, my modem changes will stick?
It seems like this issue is isolated to sprint only, right? Much buddy on att is flashing ics over ics like crazy. And he said he hasn't seen anything like this over there.
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I've only used the ICS recovery on AOKP to change modems and flash GB roms because it probably wouldn't work too well with other ICS roms.
krook250 said:
I am gonna look into mobile Odin so i don't have to be sitting at a PC to do work. So if I go back to gb and get my modem biz straightened out then flash an ics rom, my modem changes will stick?
It seems like this issue is isolated to sprint only, right? Much buddy on att is flashing ics over ics like crazy. And he said he hasn't seen anything like this over there.
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UPDATE: It seems that using recovery on Touchwiz-based ICS roms (like Blend ICS) is safe but it is much more dangerous on roms built from stock (like CM9). Your buddy must be using roms based off of leaked builds and not stock AOSP.
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If you flashed back to Gingerbread to change your modems and installed an Ice Cream Sandwich rom over it the modem should stay.
faceyourfaces said:
I've only used the ICS recovery on AOKP to change modems and flash GB roms because it probably wouldn't work too well with other ICS roms.
UPDATE: It seems that using recovery on Touchwiz-based ICS roms (like Blend ICS) is safe but it is much more dangerous on roms built from stock (like CM9). Your buddy must be using roms based off of leaked builds and not stock AOSP.
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If you flashed back to Gingerbread to change your modems and installed an Ice Cream Sandwich rom over it the modem should stay.
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It has nothing to do with that it's the ics kernel and aosp and tw is using the same kernel but with minor changed , because there is no source released there can't be a built from source aosp kernel ....there is no safe ics kernel with cwm when source is released they will fix it, but the note has the same problem
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Epix4G said:
It has nothing to do with that it's the ics kernel and aosp and tw is using the same kernel but with minor changed , because there is no source released there can't be a built from source aosp kernel ....there is no safe ics kernel with cwm when source is released they will fix it, but the note has the same problem
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The recovery that came with Blend ICS worked fine for me though. Trying to flash using recoveries on other ICS roms gave me soft bricks. Would you have any idea how Blend worked for me?
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The recovery that came with Blend ICS worked fine for me though. Trying to flash using recoveries on other ICS roms gave me soft bricks. Would you have any idea how Blend worked for me?
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It is the same recovery and soft bricks ate usually from not wiping right....but use that kernel with cwm and wipe data and your risking a b.l.o.d. It doesn't take much ....the thing is Samsung changed a couple things with how the data partition is handled and they also changed a couple other partitions and sfhub said he thinks it writes over two of the partitions at the same time when wiping and makes both unusable creating a brick
... writers thing is it damages the emmc somehow and makes it even impossible to jtag it .... Which should really never happen
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Epix4G said:
It is the same recovery and soft bricks ate usually from not wiping right....but use that kernel with cwm and wipe data and your risking a b.l.o.d. It doesn't take much ....the thing is Samsung changed a couple things with how the data partition is handled and they also changed a couple other partitions and sfhub said he thinks it writes over two of the partitions at the same time when wiping and makes both unusable creating a brick
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So the best thing I guess would be to just to avoid ICS recoveries all around.

Just got an Epic Touch

Need to brush up on my vocabulary.
-odin
-modem
Best tutorial for custom recovery?
Currently stock rooted. EL29? Idk what that means either.
Coming from an htc evo 3d.
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eyeisdasteve said:
Need to brush up on my vocabulary.
-odin
-modem
Best tutorial for custom recovery?
Currently stock rooted. EL29? Idk what that means either.
Coming from an htc evo 3d.
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Brush up on vocabulary by reading everything in the forums here .... El29 is the last GB ota .... Please read and really understand before doing anything like flashing ics on the phone or you will run a good chance of bricking ....have fun learning and be safe this is nothing like a HTC
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Epix4G said:
Brush up on vocabulary by reading everything in the forums here .... El29 is the last GB ota .... Please read and really understand before doing anything like flashing ics on the phone or you will run a good chance of bricking ....have fun learning and be safe this is nothing like a HTC
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Haha. I noticed.
Figured someone could explain what the odin and modem was tho.
Ill poke around.
And try not to brick. I have a usb jig on the way. So im not crazy worried.
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eyeisdasteve said:
Need to brush up on my vocabulary.
-odin
-modem
Best tutorial for custom recovery?
Currently stock rooted. EL29? Idk what that means either.
Coming from an htc evo 3d.
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Odin is a program used to flash recoveries/kernels, roms (usually just stock roms), and modems. There's an open source alternative called Heimdall that works well too. you can purchase Mobile Odin from the Play Store if you want to flash kernels directly from your phone. This makes it convenient when you cant or dont feel like using Odin on your computer to flash a new recovery onto your phone. ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR RECOVERIES/KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS. Odin/Heimdall DO NOT flash .zip files. They only flash .tar files (kernels/roms) and .bin files (modems). Again, ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR RECOVERIES/KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS.
Modem is the radio. Kernel versions dont have to match the modem version. You can be on kernel EL29 but still have a modem of FD16, and vise versa. Some people have better luck with the latest modems, some people have better luck with older modems. Your mileage may vary.
As for recoveries, they are always (always) packaged and flashed with a kernel. This is how Samsung does business (at least on most of their phones). Some kernels include a custom recovery, others dont. As of now, no ICS kernel comes with a custom recovery (actually this statement might not be accurate now that i think about it). Whenever you flash an ICS rom (which comes prepackaged with a kernel), you will always lose your recovery. No bigs, just Odin a kernel (ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS.) that includes a custom recovery (the most popular one is EL26 with CMW [search for it]). Most roms you encounter will be flashed through Recovery. If it's a .zip file, it's flashed in Recovery.
"Currently stock rooted" means you're on a stock rom that's rooted.
"EL29" most likely refers to the kernel that is packaged in the rom, but it can refer to your modem version too. The first letter represents the year; the second letter represents the month; the number represents the date of the month the kernel/modem was built.
E = year (2011)
L = month (December)
29 = date (29th, hurrrrrr)
So if someone's modem is FD19, that means:
F = 2012
D = April
19 = 19th
All ICS kernels begin with F because all ICS kernels were leaked/released in 2012. All GB kernels begin with E because they were all released in 2011.
The last stock rom/OTA released by Samsung was EL29. There have been some Samsung ICS leaks however; they range from FB## - FD##.
cnstarz said:
Odin is a program used to flash recoveries/kernels, roms, and modems. There's an open source alternative called Heimdall that works well too. you can purchase Mobile Odin from the Play Store if you want to flash kernels directly from your phone. This makes it convenient when you cant or dont feel like using Odin on your computer to flash a new recovery onto your phone. ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR RECOVERIES/KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS. Odin/Heimdall DO NOT flash .zip files. They only flash .tar files (kernels/roms) and .bin files (modems). Again, ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR RECOVERIES/KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS.
Modem is the radio. Kernel versions dont have to match the modem version. You can be on kernel EL29 but still have a modem of FD16, and vise versa. Some people have better luck with the latest modems, some people have better luck with older modems. Your mileage may vary.
As for recoveries, they are always (always) packaged and flashed with a kernel. This is how Samsung does business (at least on most of their phones). Some kernels include a custom recovery, others dont. As of now, no ICS kernel comes with a custom recovery (actually this statement might not be accurate now that i think about it). Whenever you flash an ICS rom (which comes prepackaged with a kernel), you will always lose your recovery. No bigs, just Odin a kernel (ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS.) that includes a custom recovery (the most popular one is EL26 with CMW [search for it]).
"Currently stock rooted" means you're on a stock rom that's rooted.
"EL29" most likely refers to the kernel that is packaged in the rom, but it can refer to your modem version too. The first letter represents the year; the second letter represents the month; the number represents the date of the month the kernel/modem was built.
E = year (2011)
L = month (December)
29 = date (29th, hurrrrrr)
So if someone's modem is FD19, that means:
F = 2012
D = April
19 = 19th
All ICS kernels begin with F because all ICS kernels were leaked/released in 2012. All GB kernels begin with E because they were all released in 2011.
The last stock rom/OTA released by Samsung was EL29. There have been some Samsung ICS leaks however; they range from FB## - FD##.
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K sweet. Very informative.
Not a noob by any means.
But new phone in all. Just trying to learn all the stuff.
Htc is much different. Thanks alot.
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Ok. So if I want to flash Calkulin's rom. Download the rom and radio. Use odin (mobile odin) to flash them.
What about recovery? I didnt see it mentioned.
EDIT: I see it says I need custom recovery to flash. So would I just odin a kernel that has recovery already?
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eyeisdasteve said:
Ok. So if I want to flash Calkulin's rom. Download the rom and radio. Use odin (mobile odin) to flash them.
What about recovery? I didnt see it mentioned.
EDIT: I see it says I need custom recovery to flash. So would I just odin a kernel that has recovery already?
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Both roms tell you what recovery they come with, and tells you that you need to flash them through recovery.
Edit: Yep, just Odin a kernel that has a custom recovery.
So rogue kernel. Would that be the rogue recovery?
So which kernel should I use to odin on just stock EL29 that has recovery?
EDIT: Or....the kernel (with recovery) and rom pack into the zip?
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eyeisdasteve said:
So rogue kernel. Would that be the rogue recovery?
So which kernel should I use to odin on just stock EL29 that has recovery?
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Yep, they come with Rogue Recovery. You can Odin EL26 with CWM and that will give you CWM so that you can flash those ROMs.
cnstarz said:
Yep, they come with Rogue Recovery. You can Odin EL26 with CWM and that will give you CWM so that you can flash those ROMs.
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K sweet. Almost got this figured out. Haha.
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No prob. Also, a HUGE thing to remember...
Just stick with EL26 or EL29 (GB) recovery. Using an ICS recovery (anything beginning with "F") can lead to you permanently bricking your phone. People have been successful using ICS recoveries, but lots of people have also hard bricked their phones using them (me included). Very very very very few people (if any, I cant recall any) have bricked their phones using GB Recoveries.
cnstarz said:
No prob. Also, a HUGE thing to remember...
Just stick with EL26 or EL29 (GB) recovery. Using an ICS recovery (anything beginning with "F") can lead to you permanently bricking your phone. People have been successful using ICS recoveries, but lots of people have also hard bricked their phones using them (me included). Very very very very few people (if any, I cant recall any) have bricked their phones using GB Recoveries.
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Ok sweet.
Ill make sure an triple check everything before i flash it.
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Every time u flash a rom it will change your kernel resulting in a different recovery sometimes as Samsung recovery is in the kernel not seperate like HTC ....don't sweat it keep the el26 and mobile Odin and you can flash anything .....also most ics won't come with anything but stock recovery to try to keep people from bricking ics kernels and cwm are to be avoided at all cost right now ... and rom manager sucks for Samsung if you are thinking of using it
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Don't believe anyone has mentioned him yet...
QBKing77's channel on YouTube will be your best friend for figuring stuff out on this phone
Epix4G said:
Every time u flash a rom it will change your kernel resulting in a different recovery sometimes as Samsung recovery is in the kernel not seperate like HTC ....don't sweat it keep the el26 and mobile Odin and you can flash anything .....also most ics won't come with anything but stock recovery to try to keep people from bricking ics kernels and cwm are to be avoided at all cost right now ... and rom manager sucks for Samsung if you are thinking of using it
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How would I even get into stock recovery?
And ok. I think I'm getting the hang of this.
EpicFlair said:
Don't believe anyone has mentioned him yet...
QBKing77's channel on YouTube will be your best friend for figuring stuff out on this phone
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Yes I actually saw some of his videos. Basically put everything I read here and put it into visuals.
+1
eyeisdasteve said:
How would I even get into stock recovery?
And ok. I think I'm getting the hang of this.
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Same as clock work Vol up and power
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Epix4G said:
Same as clock work Vol up and power
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Ok sweet.
I do realize we can switch between radios and they don't necessarily have to match the rom. I think iylt just goes against how I thought it went together. I have ane evo 3d as well as this phone and that is not the case with that phone. In fact when I am on a later radio with an earlier build rom everything messes up and force closes are everywhere. Just wondering why we are able to upgrade the radio with "no" problems when that modem was built to use a different build. Not to mention its not even the same version ie gb rom and ice cream modem. Any thoughts on this subject?
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patrao_n said:
I do realize we can switch between radios and they don't necessarily have to match the rom. I think iylt just goes against how I thought it went together. I have ane evo 3d as well as this phone and that is not the case with that phone. In fact when I am on a later radio with an earlier build rom everything messes up and force closes are everywhere. Just wondering why we are able to upgrade the radio with "no" problems when that modem was built to use a different build. Not to mention its not even the same version ie gb rom and ice cream modem. Any thoughts on this subject?
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modem's should have zero interactions with apps in a way that can cause them to force close. are you sure you're not confusing modems with kernels?

Cwm perm

Hey is there a way to permify clock work mod?
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If your using Rom Manager you shouldnt be its bad news on this phone ask anyone who knows
Our recovery is repacked into the Kernel. The last official build has a Rogue CWM repack (EL29) and the last Rogue repack and repack of any kind that I know of for ICS leaks is the FD02 which was not posted here.
ICS CWM at the moment is also bad news on this phone. Wiping is not good and flashing roms with it can cause Permanent Bricks and by Permanent they mean unless you own a reflow oven and practice putting nand flash on phone circuit boards kind of permanent. Once we have Kernel source everything should get better.
Well I was wanting to perm el26 stock Cwm..... So I can flash ics roms on the go lol
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Well problem is the recovery is packed into the kernel. To run a gingerbread kernel and use the phone one must be on gingerbread. You will not see this made to work for ics. What can be done has been done and once the source is available things should get safer for future repacks.
Solution? Mobile odin. Flash the el26 cwm kernel repack. Boot recovery and flash your rom. As long as all we have are ICS leaks the longer you will have to wait for something else.

[Q] CWM on ICS?

I've read through most of these threads an I'm pretty sure there is no CWM for ICS for the Epic 4G Touch. Is this correct?
I have the s2 for tmobile and it is practically unbrickable compared to this phone. My friend has the Epic and I installed ICS AOKP. It is way more difficult on his phone. I don't understand why it is so different. Given, we have different hardware, but neither one of us have the source for ICS or kernel. But I do have the same CWM no matter what rom I'm on.
1. Is it possible to have CWM on the Epic 4G Touch?
2. His ext_sdcard is not showing up. How to I make it work? I tried DirectoryBind to no avail. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
3. Can i flash zips in ICS recovery? Ive never seen the recovery it put me in before.
4. Am I missing something?
I was under time costraints when helping him out and honestly I'm just happy i got AOKP running on his phone without any issues.
I appreciate all the work everyone has done so please don't take anything I said the wrong way.
Thanks in advance an i look firward to hearing from anyone...
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We need ICS kernel source before we can have a proper CWM kernel for ICS.
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We had CWM on ICS for a little bit, but it was causinga ton of bricks because the partitions are handled differently in ICS. I wouldn't attempt to flash anything in ICS recovery because you risk bricking the device. We likely won't have CWM for it until kernel source drops.
If you need to flash something, the best way to do it is to Odin back to EL26, install CWM, and flash everything (ROM, kernel, modem etc.) in one recovery session. Most of the threads for AOSP ICS roms have specific flashing instructions in the first post.
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blackroseMD1 said:
We had CWM on ICS for a little bit, but it was causinga ton of bricks because the partitions are handled differently in ICS. I wouldn't attempt to flash anything in ICS recovery because you risk bricking the device. We likely won't have CWM for it until kernel source drops.
If you need to flash something, the best way to do it is to Odin back to EL26, install CWM, and flash everything (ROM, kernel, modem etc.) in one recovery session. Most of the threads for AOSP ICS roms have specific flashing instructions in the first post.
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Thanks for the info. I guess I'm spoiled on my T989! We dont have source either. We didnt even have a proper leak til yesterday, but ICS runs great because our devs are ridiculous.
I have him running FD26 so I will flash back el26 for the mods. I left his baseband alone and it seems to be running fine.
Thanks again. I appreciate the help
Edit: One more thing. I need to reset the flash counter and remove the yellow triangle every time i go back to cwm right?
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You don't need to remove it, it's really just personal preference and if it makes you happy you can, lol.
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Sn1per 117 said:
You don't need to remove it, it's really just personal preference and if it makes you happy you can, lol.
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Lol! Its just so ugly. I wish there was a kernel for the Epic that had a cool bootanimation. My friend saw my. Darkside kernel boot and wants it now. He doesn't understand because he thinks our phones are identical.
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Look here guys http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25659129#post25659129
I noticed the repacked kernel might not work with AOSP though. I think that I will flash him back to GB until source is released. I don't want want him to accidentally brick.
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xyros7 said:
I noticed the repacked kernel might not work with AOSP though. I think that I will flash him back to GB until source is released. I don't want want him to accidentally brick.
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I've been mostly staying on gb roms just for stability and battery life. As long as you read the instructions and don't try to be insanely flash happy you'll be fine.
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[NEW][KERNEL] CM9 FF11 repack with AGAT recovery 0.2.1

There was a request (more than one) via PM to repack CM9 kernel with my recovery. I know there is a better recovery available but I liked the challenge and decided to give it a try.
With help from Chris41g I was able to make this repack.
Base of this repack is CM9 FF11 kernel.
Everything and anything that worked in FF11 kernel should be working here.
Never used CM before so I have hard time testing repack.
So far I have noticed 3 things.
1. 4G is not turning on.
2. When I mount usb I see only external SD card. Internal storage is not showing up.
3. In settings when I try to go to storage settings.apk is FC.
Other than that everything is working (I think).
Recovery is CM7 (GB) based and has been tested very extensively with TW roms and modified CM/AOSP/AOKP roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27124691&postcount=484
We some help I hope to fix those 3 bugs as well but for now I think you can use this repack as alternative if you want to.
Links for tar and zip files:
1. FF11_CM9_AGAT.tar flash with ODIN or mobile ODIN
2. FF11_CM9_AGAT.zip flash in any unlocked recovery.
I have tried both. Flashed tar with mobile odin and flashed zip file with CWM recovery.
If you guys like it I might need some help to finish this project and make sure everything is working.
reserved just in case
Yay First!
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RCOVA said:
Yay First!
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This is definitely thinking outside the box. Excellent as always and makes me feel safer to flash cm9. Thank you sir. Live the way you think.
Sorry I crashed, glad you got it up and running ;-)
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Thanks for this!
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This is awesome but why use FF11 and not FF18? Just wondering, good job as always.
slick4mitch said:
This is awesome but why use FF11 and not FF18? Just wondering, good job as always.
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As I stated in OP I don't know much about CM.
I took whatever kernel was available.
Gimmi FF18 CM kernel and I'll repack it as well.

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