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[Q] Just upgraded from a Nexus One but data speeds are almost the same

I picked up a brand new G2 off craigslist and I've rooted it already. Phone is awesome. I can finally stream my Amazon Video On Demand collection without a hitch. I'm not noticing too much of a difference when I run speedtest.net though.
Do I have to change my data plan with T-Mobile? I live and work in LA so maybe the network is just jammed.

no speeds in LA just suck that bad. ive driven around all LA and never been able to get those hspa+ speeds, im thinking LA isnt enabled yet. but call tmobile and complain because when i called and said i wasnt the only when experiencing that they said it could be the phone.. my friend has a g2 also, and i dont think shes getting the speeds either. so make sure you call!! hopefullly either theyll tell us the truth or send some patch or something idk

I also live in LA, (commute between Long Beach and El Segundo) and I don't get the advertised data speeds... just the regular ole 3G speeds here.

In my area, I've actually seen not a boost in speed but a boost in reception quality moving from my N1 (which I still love ever so much, and might just sell my G2 for ). I stay on 3G/HSPDA in more areas than I used to. And I drop down to 2g less often during tower switches.

it all depends on location, for example, I live in a suburb of Chicago where the new network is supposed to be already up at, (about 5 miles away) and I get horrible speeds in my home (0.90 MBits) then about 20 miles in the other direction from Chicago (Aurora) speedtest said i was estimated at less than 5 miles from the aurora server in IL. I got speeds of nearly 9 MBits. I would complain but after some testing I guess it's just my location and could be the same problem for you, or I could just be high and we all have shoddy phones.

+1 for location. I'm in NYC so even with HSDPA enabled, I get 3G like speeds, a little faster, but when I go out to the suburbs, I get about 5Mbps which is quick, wifi like speeds.

jamesfrom818 said:
I picked up a brand new G2 off craigslist and I've rooted it already. Phone is awesome. I can finally stream my Amazon Video On Demand collection without a hitch. I'm not noticing too much of a difference when I run speedtest.net though.
Do I have to change my data plan with T-Mobile? I live and work in LA so maybe the network is just jammed.
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yea.. prolly too many ppl hoggin up the bandwidth there.. here's my speed test right now (3pm PST):
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A faster phone isn't going to give you faster data speeds if the network is the bottleneck.

steviewevie said:
A faster phone isn't going to give you faster data speeds if the network is the bottleneck.
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Very true. At home I get 6Mbps pretty consistently, and the speeds are just downright incredible! At work I get a measly 300-400Kbps because the tower that I'm near at work is still stuck on 3G, not to mention I have horrible coverage in general at work (signal drops all the time).

I have reception in walmart now lol
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At home my speeds are usually between 4 and 6 megs down and 700k up. My wife has a Vibrant and she gets around 3 to 4 megs down. I think we just live I'm a good coverage area. In some places I'll drop down to 1mb down. That's still dsl like speeds lol.
I live in kansas city.
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jamesfrom818 said:
...I can finally stream my Amazon Video On Demand collection without a hitch...
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How do you manage this? I have a G2 as well - coming from a rooted G1. I'm guessing you have to set the browser mode to "desktop browswer" and just sign in to Amazon VOD?
I don't really feel the need to root my phone, since it comes with wifi tether built in, but I really want to be able to stream Amazon VOD...

EEaudio08 said:
How do you manage this? I have a G2 as well - coming from a rooted G1. I'm guessing you have to set the browser mode to "desktop browswer" and just sign in to Amazon VOD?
I don't really feel the need to root my phone, since it comes with wifi tether built in, but I really want to be able to stream Amazon VOD...
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Also curious to hear about your method of watching amazon on demand.

4G Service Sucks....

Mine barely ever connects and then when it does, its like it doesn't know because no pages will load(connection error). Got my azz handed to me by Bionic yesterday. My coworker and I were out for happy hour and did a little speed test on 4g...yep he definitely got me.
I need some WIMAX tweaks immediately!!! LOL..but not really LOLing. Im serious

Verizon's network is better. (fact)
Sprint's phones are better. (fact, with minor opinion)
It's a hard choice, but Sprint's network is fantastic in Florida, so I can't really complain.

sorry your in a bad 4g area. 4G works great for me

Success100 said:
sorry your in a bad 4g area. 4G works great for me
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Same here. Full bar 4G inside my place in SoCal
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Bad 4g is normal with sprint
Sprint's wimax has a 2.5ghz frequency
This means it doesnt do to well when passing walls
Verizon's lte has a 700mhz frequency thats why it was better range
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I dont even have Sprint 4G here in Phoenix, and their 3G sucks. I get about .40mbps on average in Phoenix.

4G doesn't suck, it is just Sprint's half assed implementation that sucks.

boe said:
4G doesn't suck, it is just Sprint's half assed implementation that sucks.
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Sprint's 4G & 3G suck!

My 4g inside my house on first floor also sucks but verizon 4g also sucked at my house. In fact verizon dropped occasional calls and I needed to get a network extender. Sprint's network will get better but will probably need lte phone in the future to take advantage of it.

Try the wimax tweaks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265990&page=6
Basically lets wimax latch on to a weaker signal

im pretty sure its dependant on area. I have no issues with 3g. I get usually between 700kbps-1.3mbps. on 4g i usually get between 7-12mbps. Not too shabbby for a guy like me

Sprint 4G is garbage. Downtown in 4 different cities you get 2 bars outside and nothing as soon as you go indoors.

anubis13 said:
Sprint 4G is garbage. Downtown in 4 different cities you get 2 bars outside and nothing as soon as you go indoors.
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well..umm..theres always VZ if it doesnt meet your needs? not trying to be funny but if you are dissatisfied maybe you should look into VZ if it doesnt work in the places you need it to homie

Success100 said:
im pretty sure its dependant on area. I have no issues with 3g. I get usually between 700kbps-1.3mbps. on 4g i usually get between 7-12mbps. Not too shabbby for a guy like me
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Same here, I was getting a little slower speeds but for the past week or so that's what I been getting

3G
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4G
Just outside of NW Houston, not super fantastic, but good imo
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I don't understand topics like this.
Its one thing to try to fix this issue (via tweaks, etc) its another to whine.
Feel free to leave any carrier whose network is not performing to your standards.

I haven't even had the chance to experience 4G yet here in my area (not available yet). Still having to pay the $10 a month "premium"data fee though.
That's what truly sucks!

ravenstarr said:
I haven't even had the chance to experience 4G yet here in my area (not available yet). Still having to pay the $10 a month "premium"data fee though.
That's what truly sucks!
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Yes, it sucks but the $10 premium is even for smartphones that do not have 4G.

Sprints 3g speeds have been pretty bad. Anyone I meet on other carriers have like 3mbps while mine has like 1mbps. One bar of 4g signal and I am at 3mbps, two or three bars and I am at 6mbps or more.

Sprint 4g works pretty well for me up and down the east coast anyway in major cities. I travel a lot and spend a lot of time in airports and hotels near airports. The only place I find Sprint to kind of suck is oddly New York.
I had T-mobile which worked most places but their service sucked for speed especially at my home, solid bars but only .4 Mbps with whereas I get 1 Mbps 3g and 8 Mbps 4G with Sprint. Almost as fast as my Comcast cable internet.
Anyway YMMV. Probably VZW is the "best" but their data plans suck with 2Gb limit and they're expensive as hell with poor customer service. Instead of complaining how about doing a little research, ask friends, and take advantage of the trial period and figuring out which works best for you in your area.

Having 3g speed problem with your ET4G?

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...de-plans-after-reaching-out-to-ceo-dan-hesse/

I live in the bay area so that's great news
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we know the upgrade plans, but how long will it take for your area is the question.
If it's this bad half way through next year I'll be very unhappy.
Sent from my Galaxy S2 Epic 4g Touch.

I'm sure I'll reap the benefits of this (if it happens...) very quickly, as I live in one of the first areas to get anything from any carrier.
....and that also means I'll be able to get decent home internet speeds, finally(via tether).

Well hurry up and fix the Oxnard Ca sites, evenings and weekends my download speeds are less then 70kbps. From 3am to 9am during the week I can get 1.5 Mbps down.
Thank god for my ipad sim in a mifi.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...nts-in-3g-speeds-in-some-areas-how-about-you/

I have a lot of data problems near my work... which is why I am switching to .0001 PRL for now. I can't live off 1bar and 10kbps downloads while at work....

Dulanic said:
I have a lot of data problems near my work... which is why I am switching to .0001 PRL for now. I can't live off 1bar and 10kbps downloads while at work....
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You mean like this?
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Dulanic said:
I have a lot of data problems near my work... which is why I am switching to .0001 PRL for now. I can't live off 1bar and 10kbps downloads while at work....
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How do I do this? Also what is the difference in speed? I'm getting like 40 something k during some parts of the day and it's very frustrating.

siptang said:
How do I do this? Also what is the difference in speed? I'm getting like 40 something k during some parts of the day and it's very frustrating.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
You should be able to get over 1mbps if Verizon has 3G in your area

Thanks. Where don't they have 3g network? lol.

Anybody ever do any side by side speed tests with other devices? I ran a test with three E4GTs, an EVO 4G and an EVO 3D. Both EVO's cleared over a meg d/l while all three E4GTs (including mine) barely broke 200 kb/s. Sprint needs to get their network up to snuff no doubt but I think there is also something going on with the hardware/firmware of our phones too. I spent an hour on the phone with Sprint and Samsung today about it (of course they weren't able to help and played dumb).

For a while I was pulling my hair out, and updating prls, having Sprint reset my account and reprovisioning my phones.
E4GT, Optima S, Evo 4G and hacked Droid Incredible all scored the same pathetic sub 100Kbs in my area. I ran again at 5am and all of them managed above 1Mbps. Just over loaded towers in my area. Its worse since the Iphone.

I guess Anaheim Hills, CA is unaffected. My speeds have been great.

The Evo3d received a network service update a couple days ago and a lot of people who received it said they are getting better 3g speeds all of a sudden. Just check the second link I posted up on this thread. So comparing an Evo3d to anything might not be fair at the moment. All depending on your area that is. I received a network service update on my girl's Evo3d and it still gets the same 3g speeds as my ET4g. Just average speeds in my area. Here's the link explaining network changes in the Bay area.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11...how-about-you/

cdszoke said:
The Evo3d received a network service update a couple days ago and a lot of people who received it said they are getting better 3g speeds all of a sudden. Just check the second link I posted up on this thread. So comparing an Evo3d to anything might not be fair at the moment. All depending on your area that is. I received a network service update on my girl's Evo3d and it still gets the same 3g speeds as my ET4g. Just average speeds in my area. Here's the link explaining network changes in the Bay area.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11...how-about-you/
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Maybe they gave in and just gave it the ENG radio. When I had my E3D and I flashed the leaked eng radio (I forget the version number) my speeds were anywhere from 30-60% faster. It might have affected battery life, but, who knows...battery life sucked on that thing regardless.
I always found it strange that every radio update just seemed to make it go slower and slower...I think Sprint was up to something...

Abysmal LTE connection speed in heart of San Antonio

Proud owner of a new Galaxy III, but not so happy about the connection speeds. I live near Trinity University in the heart of San Antonio.
When I am in CDMA only mode, the phone connects at 800Kbps - 1 Mbps. When I switch to CDMA/LTE mode and reboot the phone, the connection speed ranges between 58Kbps (not a typo) and about 1100 Kbps. The 3G/4G light stays on 3G, though I briefly saw a flash of 4G.
What the heck is up with this? I upgraded to the phone partly because of the press coverage that attended the LTE roll-out in San Antonio. Is this a software problem? Is it a coverage problem?
If anyone else in Central San Antonio can post their connection speeds, I would be grateful. Also, if there is anything I can do to *force* the phone into 4G mode, that would be good to know.
Thanks!
Aaron

Your best next step is to apply the new LG8 update OTA from Sprint and see if that performs any better.

I feel your pain. I live and work in the stone oak area and have been disappointed in the LTE coverage and connection issues.
Check out this website though for a little clarification.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-312-sprint-lte-launch-market-connection-issues/

I can't even connect to 4g today in most areas I have been and inside home. I only saw 4g I've today briefly while traveling in town =(
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Yes, I've yet to get LTE speeds above 2Mbps in San Antonio. I've tried all the way by 1604/Bandera all the way to 90/Gen McMullen Blvd. But to be fair, San Antonio is only like 15% rolled out.

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Check out this website though for a little clarification.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-312-sprint-lte-launch-market-connection-issues/
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Yes, that's why I suggested installing the OTA update and retesting. The update is supposed to help with the threshold problem that S4GRU's analysis identified.

boomerbubba said:
Yes, that's why I suggested installing the OTA update and retesting. The update is supposed to help with the threshold problem that S4GRU's analysis identified.
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Absolutely. The radio alone helps. I wonder though if it has anything to do with San Antonio having so many hills and changes in altitude? Either way, cn is correct. S.A. only has 15% complete but that is prolly more like 20% now. When LTE does connect, it is no joke.
Average 20down and 12up.

I'm still locked out my home tower for LTE. But this was post update it started happening, sucks I can't test out the new radio lol
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Hellz jes baby San Antonio here, I work off 151 and Wiseman got a buddy with sprint Evo lte and 1with gsiii I really believe its not the radio as much as it is towers and sprints coverage, they get spoty coverage all over the 210..
I got ATT lte is blazing hope they get that fixed ASAP I'm tired all ways letting them use my hotspot lol
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When I do connect to 4g its really bad now like its 3g. the tower i usually can connect to at work, i can no longer. I think they may be working on the towers.

Getting consistent connection off marbach and 410
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I barely had WIMAX in Central Cali in the lesser of the two "major" cities in the area, Visalia. Now with my S3 LTE, I can't pick up a 4G signal there anymore.

Nice to see SA town talking.
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Hell yeah. We should all have a get together! lol

I'm getting pretty good 4G speeds by 1604 & 281.
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It was just me. Speed is great. (Original Poster)
Hi folks -- I have been meaning to circle back to correct my original posting. Although LTE reception is not very good inside my house, it is fantastic in most other parts of San Antonio. I have checked in Olmos Park, in the Quarry, in the Rim, etc., and have consistently seen 4G speeds above 10Mbps. Usually, it is closer to 15Mbps. There are some dead spots when data services drop out completely, but -- for the most part -- it is a strong and powerful signal.
Since I'm always quick to give Sprint (and other providers) grief when their service is lacking, I want to make sure I give them credit where credit is due. This phone and the new LTE network are super fast.
Thanks!
Aaron
p.s. I am puzzled by the CAPTCHA on this site. It took me several tries to post this message.

adelwich said:
Hi folks -- I have been meaning to circle back to correct my original posting. Although LTE reception is not very good inside my house, it is fantastic in most other parts of San Antonio. I have checked in Olmos Park, in the Quarry, in the Rim, etc., and have consistently seen 4G speeds above 10Mbps. Usually, it is closer to 15Mbps. There are some dead spots when data services drop out completely, but -- for the most part -- it is a strong and powerful signal.
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Thanks for the update. Out of curiosity, have you installed Sprint's OTA update to v LG8? It is supposed to include more "optimized" LTE connection software. The previous versions (LG2 and below) were believed to set the threshold for LTE signal strength too high, so it was difficult to get and keep an LTE connection. This would only magnify problems caused by the relatively thin tower coverage in newly launched LTE markets such as San Antonio, Houston, etc.

Just picked up the phone. I'm looking good on 4g at I10 and De Zavala
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Hey san antonio peeps,
check this site out. More lte sites to be turned on by the end of august. maps show only new sites. and it shows how far behind some cities are in the lte roll out.
red means sites that are over due that have yet to be turned on. blue are sites that are to be turned on by end of august.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1711-sprint-lte-august-2012-schedule-maps/

Question 5G data speeds are terrible, why?

Testing results in garbage speed (consistently less than 7 Mbps down, less than 1 Mbps up, 20-25 ms ping, 6-8 ms jitter). Signal strength is apparently 38% (-111 dBm). I noticed it was bad sometimes when I was actually out and not at home on my WiFi, but I had to use my hotspot for a few hours since they were doing maintenance on the internet here at home, and it was just terrible. So now I have to ask.... what could be making it so slow? Is it just me, or are others suffering from terrible speed as well? Is it my modem? The area I'm in (Sacramento, CA)? Or is it actually on T-Mobile's end?

Just ran a few Speedtest app 5g tests in Southern Nevada...
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Are any of you on the European ROM?

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Are any of you on the European ROM?
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I'm on EU firmware with T-Mobile network in Texas, and speeds are kinda all over but consistently fast. Odd that it used LTE for most of my tests instead of 5G though.

I'm not sure if it's always just been "bleh" speeds for 5G here or not, but seeing as how this is the first 5G device I've owned, it's hard to say if it's on my end or theirs.
Nope, must be something on my end. Their map says my area has "5G Ultra Capacity" so that can't be the issue.

GuyInDogSuit said:
I'm not sure if it's always just been "bleh" speeds for 5G here or not, but seeing as how this is the first 5G device I've owned, it's hard to say if it's on my end or theirs.
Nope, must be something on my end. Their map says my area has "5G Ultra Capacity" so that can't be the issue.
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Might just be your testing locations. 5g actually performs poorly in home environment for me, about the same as lte for speed but less reliable. I'd check open network maps to determine if you're actually close to a 5g cell tower (not relying on carrier provided maps that tend to skew positively for them), and if so, check if you get better signal outside. If you are close to a tower, get decent speeds outside, but not inside, then getting a signal booster for faster mobile speeds indoor would be needed.

It is definitely testing location. When I test at home, the speed is slower than 4g by a lot. When I test at work in NYC I have mind blowing speeds. Faster than my IPS at home.
Here is a screenshot of my 5g in NYC

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It is definitely testing location. When I test at home, the speed is slower than 4g by a lot. When I test at work in NYC I have mind blowing speeds. Faster than my IPS at home.
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Are they consistently like that? The results I mentioned above were at home. But I tested again yesterday while I was out, at a grocery store just down the street a few blocks, and I got 19.9 up/ 3.98 down (which is better, but still pretty sad).

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Are they consistently like that? The results I mentioned above were at home. But I tested again yesterday while I was out, at a grocery store just down the street a few blocks, and I got 19.9 up/ 3.98 down (which is better, but still pretty sad).
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I wouldn't be able to tell you honestly because I do not live in NYC. I commute there for work. I have one ran speed test there 2 times and both times I had blazing fast speed like that. Over at my house, the 5g is poor and I only use 4g.

@GuyInDogSuit I've been having the same issues lately. Not sure what's been going on. T-Mobile OP9P converted to DA firmware, using Family Mobile SIM connected using T-Mobile APN.
Was surprised to get these results today. Went to download an app update using mobile data, realized it downloaded in two seconds, so I figured I'd speed test it. I live in ****ty Ohio lol.

TheKnux said:
@GuyInDogSuit I've been having the same issues lately. Not sure what's been going on. T-Mobile OP9P converted to DA firmware, using Family Mobile SIM connected using T-Mobile APN.
Was surprised to get these results today. Went to download an app update using mobile data, realized it downloaded in two seconds, so I figured I'd speed test it. I live in ****ty Ohio lol.
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Holy mackerel!!
Anyway, to update on this.... It would seem it is definitely something in the area, and not just the 5G. I tested the LTE on my tablet and got piss-poor results on that as well. 9.89 down, 0.07 up. Yikes.

They're fine here

I was all over the place today, in at least two different counties, and tested several times. The speeds weren't spectacular, but they were still much better than the sadness I get at home. I should look into some ways to improve that, especially since it will be my only source of internet for a few days next week.