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So ****in tired of t mobile bull****.. looking for other options.
has anyone here used their galaxy s2 on simple mobiles network?
how is speed of your 4 g?
is it straight up 60 plus tax or are there any other hidden fess...

I'm glad you asked! You're in the right place! I've been with Simple for almost two years. Absolutely wonderful Service. The speeds are really good for 3g and 4g. I used to be on the 3g plan and switched to 4g to check it out. It's really good but when I had the S2 on T Mobile it just seemed a little quicker. Probably because Simple hasn't leased the higher or faster speed towers? Nonetheless i've converted many of my friends and family to it and never experienced a drop call. I've been all the way to Ohio and new York city with it and works amazing. There are no taxes with the program. You can even pay online and they will never charge you any "Service fee" or whatever nonsense. You'll love it. Trust me. No need to let your phone unlocked either. Let me know if you have any other questions! Sorry if I sound a little excited, I'm just glad someone has seen the proverbial light and is thinking of switching.
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Oh and i've had nearly every Service under the sun including Boost, Page Plus, H2o, Virgin Mobile, and of course Simple. I'm not talking out of my ass. I've always seemed to come back to Simple when testing out other services. It's always my back up plan
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i personnaly have att and tmobile and like att more
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Hey nexicon, are you able to take an existing number and port it to simple?
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thanks for all replys..att is out..my girl has them with her skyrocket and its way overpriced for service...
@nexicon im with tj bunch on can you port over to simple mobile? i looked over thier website cant find it though...
im so sick of the bull that happens with tmobile...ive been charged 10 extra a month for something ive never signed up for past 3 months..just got credited..
returned a black sammy s 2 ...they sent me a white one. with no back. and not even notifing me of the color change.so now i have a black back with white phone...its like me sending the check this month with no dollars and just the cents ...****tards i swear

Yes you can port a number to simple mobile. However, they have the worst customer service ever. I used to have 2 phones with simple mobile and they charged to $40 to recharge my account but the pin number that was sent to me via email was invalid for both of the accounts and they won't believe me. They could check that I have used ZERO msgs, minutes, data in 20 days because my phone doesn't work but they failed to help me out. They would hang up on my when I would ask for a supervisor and when I finally got hold of supervisor, she emailed me another pin numbers for both of the lines and they didn't work AGAIN. I ended up paying more to simple mobile then I saved.

audi_on_u said:
So ****in tired of t mobile bull****.. looking for other options.
has anyone here used their galaxy s2 on simple mobiles network?
how is speed of your 4 g?
is it straight up 60 plus tax or are there any other hidden fess...
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Could have worded that a lot nicer. No need for that.
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Yeah customer service sucks, but not bad it's 60 flat out No fees, that's 2gig and united talk and text I left and got T-Mobile 30$ 5 gig plan using my Google voice number and groove ip for my calls winning, and I get a callertune
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Had simple mobile for about 2 months and there speed on the gs2 is nowhere near the same. T-Mobile customers have a higher priority on the towers, I now use the $70 monthly 4g plan for 5gig of data
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Sorry for the late reply. Customer Service DID suck in the beginning. I had a nightmare porting my Number the first time only to find out it was a bad SIM. But now they have improved a lot and could use some improvement but I always tell people, it's a prepaid company so never expect them to bend over completely backwards for ya. They have limited resources to help out their customers compared to postpaid companies that have boatloads of capital behind them. I'm saying all this because i've worked at many of these local Cell phone stores and my friends own many.
And like I said earlier, t mobiles 4g speed was faster than simples but it's so worth it considering no surprise charges and headaches. They will port your Number when you call them. Make sure you have your previous account number and passwords and it should be ported asap. I've never had to contact customer Service after I ported my Number so take that from me. Best of luck.
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Oh and worst customer service now goes to H2O. I hope they burn. Never lasted so short with any company..
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had tmobile for over 6 months on my vibrant, with no problems, i was enjoying the 40 dollars a month plan, i switched back to tmo for the sgs2 but im considering going back to simple mobile plan.

Any of you been throttled yet on simple? I'm positive their 2gig plan is the same as T-Mobile's $60 2gig plan. Why would T-Mobile give simple customer (a tmobile reseller) a better deal than they give their own customers?
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The worst customer service has to be AT&T. I ended up paying over $1000 thru a year for a phone which I had returned and service I never used. They would tell me to fax them a copy of return and when I would fax it to them, they would tell me they couldn't find my fax due to thousands of faxes they get everyday.
I could care less about the money but the special team they had handling my case was also very rude to me. Then I created a Facebook page complaining about how bad their service is, and very next day I received an email from one of their customer relations manager. All the sudden she was able to find my faxes and reimbursed the money. By that time I was so upset by the fact that they treated me like a thieve. After getting all my money back, I called T-Mobile so I could switch. BEST THING-> T-Mobile even paid for my ETF for 3 phone lines that I brought to T-Mobile, in addition to free phones.

funziebear said:
Yeah customer service sucks, but not bad it's 60 flat out No fees, that's 2gig and united talk and text I left and got T-Mobile 30$ 5 gig plan using my Google voice number and groove ip for my calls winning, and I get a callertune
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So what plan do have by the way? What is your monthly total?
U dont pay for minutes? thanks in advanced.
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I have the walmart 5gig 100 min but i use google voice for my calls so i pay 30 bucks not bad if u get the system down i usw groove ip with my google voice works prwtty good
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Oh wow, nice!! Too bad im locked in for 2 years...im guessing thats a month to month plan right? Where could i see those? At the walmart website?
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Yeah walmart website and it's month to month I don't like contracts
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jordanishere said:
Any of you been throttled yet on simple? I'm positive their 2gig plan is the same as T-Mobile's $60 2gig plan. Why would T-Mobile give simple customer (a tmobile reseller) a better deal than they give their own customers?
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Why? Simple, look at Boost Mobile. When they first came out and initiated the unlimited trend many people we're skeptical and people who had Sprint used to ask what was the catch? I told them there was none. People don't realize you are not on a contract and pay for your phone up front and taxes are usually included in the monthly bill. With a contract they tend to give you more privileges and tend to make sure your problems are dealt with them instead of the manufacturer, like give you a replacement phone instead of sending it to Samsung. But with no contract you have to usually send it in yourself. Sprint and other postpaid companies make lots of extra money selling you all sorts of erroneous services and stuff. There are many people blind to the way of prepaid and foolishly think it's better to stick paying an outrageous bill instead of saving money on the same thing without contract. It's the stigma really. And many people are stubborn too. That's why.
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Verizon vs T Mobile plan

My current T mobile plan is: Unlimited Minutes, Unlimited Text, and Unlimited Data (2GB of 4g, then throttled) for $79.99/month, plus a discount, so I pay $78 every month.
Now I never looked at Verizon plans because I have always heard they were so much more expensive.. so tonight I decide to look into it.. and I don't know If I am looking at them wrong or what..
But I see a plan.. SHARE EVERYTHING UNL TALK & TEXT 4GB $70 0612
Which I would read as Unlimited Minutes, Unlimited Text, and 4GB of LTE/4G Data for $70???
Is this correct or what? If it is that means I can get more with Verizon for less than T-Mobile? OR am I not seeing some extra fees and what not?
and BTW, with the 2GB on T mobile, I never go over, the most I used was about 1.8GB a month.. so I don't need unlimited data.

I just made a plan through their mobile website and it looks like they charge an extra $40 per smartphone on top of the plan price. The total for a 4Gb plan would be $110.
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Their "share everything" plans are a great concept, but you probably overlooked the device fee ($40 per smartphone).
They charge a fixed fee for each device that ties into it, and then all devices share all data/voice/text allotments and you simply purchase enough for your combined usage.
It's a great concept for families where everyone uses just a little more than one tier gives them and so instead of all of them having to pay for the next higher tier, they can aggregate and their average ends up with a cheaper combined tier. As an example, if they have a tier at 500MB and everyone uses 600-700MB then they might all have to individually upgrade to the 2GB plan. But, if they combine then they can get away with a single 2GB amongst 3 family members.
One of the big benefits for individual users is that you can share data between your smartphone and your tablet and the tablet only had a $10 fee to buy in. Typically you access things on your tablet or your smartphone, so the usage on both is usually not much higher than the usage on a single plan with one device. Essentially, you could probably get a tablet and add it to your plan for only $10 a month total.
But, at $40 per smartphone I'm not sure how much of a boon it is for families compared to the "add a tablet for $10/month" scenario.

Wow! That's a joke! 40$ a month just because you're using one of their devices, that doesn't even make sense.
So after all the mobile is cheaper
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Yea the plans are REALLY deceptive. I think it's $30 per dumbphone and $40 per smart ON TOP of the $70 for the plan. So even when you share with a flip it's almost like adding a whole nother plan. Tmo is cool because you can add lines and NOT give them data/texting.

Yes, Verizon works well if you have three phones and not much data, ie two people is $75 per person shared 4GB. But for three smartphones it would be $64 for 4GB shared. t-mo is cheaper, but omg you better like edge and gprs even.

joederp said:
Yes, Verizon works well if you have three phones and not much data, ie two people is $75 per person shared 4GB. But for three smartphones it would be $64 for 4GB shared. t-mo is cheaper, but omg you better like edge and gprs even.
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Dunno what you're smoking, I set up a wifi hotspot with my S3 and tether my Nexus 7 to it all the time, no problems streaming hd from Netflix.
Actually, I guess it's all depending on your market. I never have any issues anywhere around the Minneapolis area.

joederp said:
Yes, Verizon works well if you have three phones and not much data, ie two people is $75 per person shared 4GB. But for three smartphones it would be $64 for 4GB shared. t-mo is cheaper, but omg you better like edge and gprs even.
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Uhhh.. grandfathered with data for one phone 2GB and two flips was $140, shared plan was $170. I went with tmo for $95.
Ohh you said PER PERSON. The difference is huge still.

Yeah I'll just stay away from them. To get the same plan with Verizon that I have with the mobile it would be 100$ plus tax... And right now I pay 78.
When I renew my contract I'll most likely get the 500mins (I checked my bills for the last three months and I never go over) unlimited text and unlimited 4G for 79.99$.
Orrr I might switch to simple mobile... Unlimited everything 50$ a month and they use the t mobile towers. I've had them before and had no problems.
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Verizon is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Sprint is probably cheaper than Tmobile for the most part + unlimited, but it's very deceptive advertising as their LTE is hardly rolled out anywhere. Their 3G is almost like Dialup too. Just keep Tmobile.

Aria807 said:
Verizon is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Sprint is probably cheaper than Tmobile for the most part + unlimited, but it's very deceptive advertising as their LTE is hardly rolled out anywhere. Their 3G is almost like Dialup too. Just keep Tmobile.
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Yeah I've heard plenty bad things about sprint data. Yep ill most likely stick with t mobile or switch to their son simple mobile lol
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Crisisx1 said:
Yeah I've heard plenty bad things about sprint data. Yep ill most likely stick with t mobile or switch to their son simple mobile lol
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I've used Sprint for years and their data is PAINFULLY slow. Even "4g" was giving me 1ish Mbps. I switched to VZW and the service is awesome but the cost is really bothering me. I'm currently on VZW paying $75.00 a month for 4gigs of data 450min and 1000 text messages. Every month I go over in texts and it pushes me to $80ish
I just ordered a S2 from Tmo and I'm going to check out the $30.00 prepaid for a couple of weeks to see how well the service compares to VZW. Upon telling my boss this he laughed and told me Tmo sucks in our area and he just switched to VZW from Tmo so I might be stuck on VZW for the forseable future.

joe_sun said:
I've used Sprint for years and their data is PAINFULLY slow. Even "4g" was giving me 1ish Mbps. I switched to VZW and the service is awesome but the cost is really bothering me. I'm currently on VZW paying $75.00 a month for 4gigs of data 450min and 1000 text messages. Every month I go over in texts and it pushes me to $80ish
I just ordered a S2 from Tmo and I'm going to check out the $30.00 prepaid for a couple of weeks to see how well the service compares to VZW. Upon telling my boss this he laughed and told me Tmo sucks in our area and he just switched to VZW from Tmo so I might be stuck on VZW for the forseable future.
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I would switch to Verizon but they are just too expensive. 2gb data unlimited mins and text=100$ plus tax.
On tmobile I get that for 78$. And don't have to worry about over fees because t mobile just throttles you. The highest speed test I got was 30mb. But average is 10mb and about 2.5 up
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If you want cheap T-Mobile is the way to go. The 2 line unlimited plan for $99 cant be beat, unless you go prepaid. But you probably wouldn't be in the s3 forums if you were wanting prepaid.

If you haven't, try to see if you can get any work discounts. It would probably help a bit on costs.

Lol don't know why people make such a big stink over Verizon. I had them for the last 8-9 years and I switched to Tmobile. It was easier than expected honestly. Sure their network isn't as good as Verizon but it's not so distinctly different where if you put the same phone and did a Web browsing test that someone would tell a difference. If I am downloading a huge rom then it's noticeable but for forum surfing and websites (don't do much more than that at work since... Well I'm working lol and I have wifi at home) its just fine.
It's funny because if you knew me then you would know this doesn't sound like me because I am a spec freak... Also it isn't the cost that bothers me. I work 60 hours a week and I can afford Verizon its just the lack of value. Maybe it's because Verizon doesn't give a **** about its customers and they don't try to hide it. Maybe it's because I do work so many damn hours and if I don't see value in my spending I won't buy it. Idk. Either way I'm thrilled with Tmobile and have no reason to go back. Also, I'm in a sort of crappy Tmobile area where everywhere around me gets 5-25mbs and I'm in the one patch that gets less than 2 lol
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For 3 lines with ins.:
Sprint had me at $222 (15% off)
Verizon would have been $228 (25% off data)
Tmobile has me at $180 (15% off)
The speeds are way better than what I had on Sprint even with the EvoLTE and the download speeds are on par with every Verizon phone I have come across. Verizon's upload speeds are faster (like 5 to 2)
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AB33 said:
For 3 lines with ins.:
Sprint had me at $222 (15% off)
Verizon would have been $228 (25% off data)
Tmobile has me at $180 (15% off)
Tbe speeds are way better that what I had on Sprint even the EvoLTE and the download speeds are on par with every Verizon phone I come accross. Verizon's upload speeds are faster (like 5 to 2)
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Just left sprint for t-mobile, so far so good, I live in Northern New jersey work in queens, haven't had any signal issues yet, strong signal indoors. Defintely a better data experience. I can actuality get a signal and use at my job in LIC. Nice to have functional service. Still have to test in philly where I go a lot, but for right now sprint < tmobile.

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Just left sprint for t-mobile, so far so good, I live in Northern New jersey work in queens, haven't had any signal issues yet, strong signal indoors. Defintely a better data experience. I can actuality get a signal and use at my job in LIC. Nice to have functional service. Still have to test in philly where I go a lot, but for right now sprint < tmobile.
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Yeah I'm with sprint now. I switched from tmobile from being customer for 6 years. And I gotta say worst mistake!! I'm so upset with the speeds. I mean I cant even get Pandora to work.
Needless to say I will be turning this pretty gs3 back to best buy and cancel my sprint. And reactivate my T-Mobile account.
Can't believe I shot my self in the foot like that.
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For some who don't know T-Mobile is undergoing a huge network upgrade so expect some big changes soon with service its only getting better from here guys jump on the Tmo express

[Q] Sprint Note II vs T-Mobile Note II?

Hi,
I have the Sprint Note II in my hands now and have till tomorrow to return it. I am thinking of switching to T-Mobile. I LOVE this phone.
I am only worried about differences in the phone (if there are any negatives) and of course coverage and speeds. I hear T Mob has some great speeds but not when you travel out of major cities. Anyone with experience of both carriers?
I love that Tmob is GSM since I do travel int. And I can get a small bus plan so my bill is only $50/month compared to $70 w Sprint. Plus, you get free hotspot and I don't need to root to get free tethering.
As far as phone, are there any major differences? Is T Mob usually behind on updates as I've had Multi Window since I bought the phone on the 4th?
Anything else you can tell me? BTW, my battery is phenomenal. I am sitting on almost 2 days of battery usage. Same for T Mob?
Thanks for any answers!!

You would probably get more answers in the tmob forum ...as they have the phone and we all have the sprint one like u right now . But it is pretty much the same phone
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Epix4G said:
You would probably get more answers in the tmob forum ...as they have the phone and we all have the sprint one like u right now . But it is pretty much the same phone
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Ya thanks, I actually posted in both. I fgure there are some Sprint or T Mob users who have switched carriers and can offer insight.
As far as phone, the GSM feature I think makes the T Mob version more flexible.

I think the tmob one has native video calling also .... which ours doesn't
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You do realize that the Sprint version can run on GSM as well right?

I cant confirm this but the tmo version might have wireless charging because its a gsm phone. Its pretty much the same phone. Updates have been faster on Sprint but tmo is not too far back.
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I just made the switch and sold my Sprint Note 2 before switching to Tmobile. The phones are essentially the same, however, the Tmobile version comes with WiFi calling.
The only regret I have is not switching sooner. The data and voice is amazing and the prices are much cheaper than Sprint.
I don't know if GsM supports HD voice but really, who cares.
I'm very happy to answer any questions you may have.
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Sho'nuff75 said:
Hi,
I have the Sprint Note II in my hands now and have till tomorrow to return it. I am thinking of switching to T-Mobile. I LOVE this phone.
I am only worried about differences in the phone (if there are any negatives) and of course coverage and speeds. I hear T Mob has some great speeds but not when you travel out of major cities. Anyone with experience of both carriers?
I love that Tmob is GSM since I do travel int. And I can get a small bus plan so my bill is only $50/month compared to $70 w Sprint. Plus, you get free hotspot and I don't need to root to get free tethering.
As far as phone, are there any major differences? Is T Mob usually behind on updates as I've had Multi Window since I bought the phone on the 4th?
Anything else you can tell me? BTW, my battery is phenomenal. I am sitting on almost 2 days of battery usage. Same for T Mob?
Thanks for any answers!!
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There are more ROM options because many are pulled from ATT or the international version. Battery life is about the same. Multi Window is available on some ROMS but Tmobile hasn't officially been updated yet.
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1 T-Mobile runs on a GSM network, So 3g speeds are pretty same as Sprint's LTE speeds. As because it's not true 4g but still faster in some cases.
2 because it is a GSM network the battery life is far superior.
3 has a SIM card
4 is possibly even cheaper in the store depending on if the running a sale or not. Before T-Mobile had it for 199 rebate so you pay the 300 but get a mail in rebate for 100.
5 I have checked both coverage maps from Sprint and T Mobile and to be honest are pretty much the same only in certain places 1 another might be better or not. All on T-Mobile note 2 forum as well.
by the way the free tethering 1 Will throttle you verses on the nation 4g without the tethering.
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ptfdmedic said:
There are more ROM options because many are pulled from ATT or the international version. Battery life is about the same. Multi Window is available on some ROMS but Tmobile hasn't officially been updated yet.
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T Mob is getting the multi window rolled out tomorrow. The girl at the store had no clue about LTE. The Note II has the radios for it, just not turned on right now, correct? Do you think there will be any limits on LTE network? I get unlimited with the small bus plan.

XxLostSoulxX said:
1 T-Mobile runs on a GSM network, So 3g speeds are pretty same as Sprint's LTE speeds. As because it's not true 4g but still faster in some cases.
2 because it is a GSM network the battery life is far superior.
3 has a SIM card
4 is possibly even cheaper in the store depending on if the running a sale or not. Before T-Mobile had it for 199 rebate so you pay the 300 but get a mail in rebate for 100.
5 I have checked both coverage maps from Sprint and T Mobile and to be honest are pretty much the same only in certain places 1 another might be better or not. All on T-Mobile note 2 forum as well.
by the way the free tethering 1 Will throttle you verses on the nation 4g without the tethering.
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They still have the $100 rebate. They will also give me a $200 per line credit for switching over to the business plan. So the phone will cost me $460 tax included. I paid $320 for it from Sprint but my plan is $20 more a month which obviously adds up over the years.
I did check the coverage map and there's the rub. I live in Hawaii. Honolulu is great for either service. BUT, I also used to live on Kauai and still have a condo there so I visit often and could move back eventually and the service is 2G there! Yikes. But, I don't see me going back for a couple years at minimum for long term stay so if the service still sucks then, maybe I switch to someone else if I do move back.
Can you explain the free tethering throttle? I heard it's after 5GB which is enough for me. Thanks!
BTW, Thanks for the responses. I returned the Note II to Sprint last night and will likely be joining T Mob today!

ptfdmedic said:
I just made the switch and sold my Sprint Note 2 before switching to Tmobile. The phones are essentially the same, however, the Tmobile version comes with WiFi calling.
The only regret I have is not switching sooner. The data and voice is amazing and the prices are much cheaper than Sprint.
I don't know if GsM supports HD voice but really, who cares.
I'm very happy to answer any questions you may have.
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See i get 23% discount for Sprint, ATT, Verizon, but none for T-Mobile so for me its actually cheaper on sprint we pay $209.76 for 1500 Shared minutes(land-lines), Any Mobile to Mobile, Unlimited text, Unlimited Data. TEP on 3 Note 2's. for T-Mobile i would have to pay $245+ for same setup pretty much we pay about $5K every 2 years. T-Mobile would be $6K
Sho'nuff75 said:
They still have the $100 rebate. They will also give me a $200 per line credit for switching over to the business plan. So the phone will cost me $460 tax included. I paid $320 for it from Sprint but my plan is $20 more a month which obviously adds up over the years.
I did check the coverage map and there's the rub. I live in Hawaii. Honolulu is great for either service. BUT, I also used to live on Kauai and still have a condo there so I visit often and could move back eventually and the service is 2G there! Yikes. But, I don't see me going back for a couple years at minimum for long term stay so if the service still sucks then, maybe I switch to someone else if I do move back.
Can you explain the free tethering throttle? I heard it's after 5GB which is enough for me. Thanks!
BTW, Thanks for the responses. I returned the Note II to Sprint last night and will likely be joining T Mob today!
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Yeah they have a 5GB and 10GB of No throttling with WiFi Tethering hotspot, but if you go over than its Throttled. Whereas 4G Nationwide plan its all unlimited and you can simply get a wifi hotspot tether app for free.

XxLostSoulxX said:
See i get 23% discount for Sprint, ATT, Verizon, but none for T-Mobile so for me its actually cheaper on sprint we pay $209.76 for 1500 Shared minutes(land-lines), Any Mobile to Mobile, Unlimited text, Unlimited Data. TEP on 3 Note 2's. for T-Mobile i would have to pay $245+ for same setup pretty much we pay about $5K every 2 years. T-Mobile would be $6K
Yeah they have a 5GB and 10GB of No throttling with WiFi Tethering hotspot, but if you go over than its Throttled. Whereas 4G Nationwide plan its all unlimited and you can simply get a wifi hotspot tether app for free.
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I got 24% discount from Sprint so that's why I was at $70. With my small bus plan with T Mob, I'll be at $50.
Thanks for the info, but I don't go over 5GB anyway, so I'll be fine.
As far as tethering on Sprint for free, I had to root my EVO. I like that I don't even have to root or hack T Mob and have hotspot for free and get the GSM without doing all these mods I've been reading about on Sprint so you can try to insert a SIM.
But hey, we all have different needs and you're stoked with Sprint. I was with them for 15 years so I am sorta sad to leave haha. All I care about is coverage and if it's as good or better than Sprint, I think I'll be a happy camper!

Sho'nuff75 said:
I got 24% discount from Sprint so that's why I was at $70. With my small bus plan with T Mob, I'll be at $50.
Thanks for the info, but I don't go over 5GB anyway, so I'll be fine.
As far as tethering on Sprint for free, I had to root my EVO. I like that I don't even have to root or hack T Mob and have hotspot for free and get the GSM without doing all these mods I've been reading about on Sprint so you can try to insert a SIM.
But hey, we all have different needs and you're stoked with Sprint. I was with them for 15 years so I am sorta sad to leave haha. All I care about is coverage and if it's as good or better than Sprint, I think I'll be a happy camper!
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yep i feel ya, used to be with VZW forever because i lived in Rochester, NY basically 4-6 Hours away from NYC. and that was pretty much best at the time up there and most reliable. but we moved to North Carolina and sprint was okay and much cheaper lol

I don't know if there will be any different prices with LTE. I would doubt it because my understanding is that it would be more efficient.
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Sho'nuff75 said:
They still have the $100 rebate. They will also give me a $200 per line credit for switching over to the business plan. So the phone will cost me $460 tax included. I paid $320 for it from Sprint but my plan is $20 more a month which obviously adds up over the years.
I did check the coverage map and there's the rub. I live in Hawaii. Honolulu is great for either service. BUT, I also used to live on Kauai and still have a condo there so I visit often and could move back eventually and the service is 2G there! Yikes. But, I don't see me going back for a couple years at minimum for long term stay so if the service still sucks then, maybe I switch to someone else if I do move back.
Can you explain the free tethering throttle? I heard it's after 5GB which is enough for me. Thanks!
BTW, Thanks for the responses. I returned the Note II to Sprint last night and will likely be joining T Mob today!
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Once you hit your cap, if you have one, they reduce your speed. Having said that, your throttled speed would be most likely faster than Sprint anyway.
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Once you hit your cap, if you have one, they reduce your speed. Having said that, your throttled speed would be most likely faster than Sprint anyway.
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T Mobile throttles your speed at 2g speeds. 2g on T-Mobile is slow. Atleast on 3g with Sprint it's getting better and faster.
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T Mobile throttles your speed at 2g speeds. 2g on T-Mobile is slow. Atleast on 3g with Sprint it's getting better and faster.
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That's all relative. 3G for me with Sprint was, .02 kbps down and about the same down. It's been that way for over a year now.
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Once you hit your cap, if you have one, they reduce your speed. Having said that, your throttled speed would be most likely faster than Sprint anyway.
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I have a cap at 5GB but even when using Sprint for tethering and all that stuff I never even hit 3GB of data. I can pay $5 more if needed and I believe it is unlimited.
I did get a little bit of disappointment just now, because I am doing the business value plan, I don't get the $100 mail in rebate.
I do get $200 though for switching over, but the idea of getting $300 was really nice.

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I have a cap at 5GB but even when using Sprint for tethering and all that stuff I never even hit 3GB of data. I can pay $5 more if needed and I believe it is unlimited.
I did get a little bit of disappointment just now, because I am doing the business value plan, I don't get the $100 mail in rebate.
I do get $200 though for switching over, but the idea of getting $300 was really nice.
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that's hilarious because I've been using 4g WiMAX and 3g constantly on my samsung epic for the last month before I bought the note 2 and I had reached 20 gigs of data
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Leaked info Tmo POST PAID not PREPAID no contract no cap anyday

We will all be seeing a very nice thing march 28th from tmobile... soon thanks to a big mouth rep .
Postpaid 4g no caps on data no "contract" Truly unlimited.
This is like a contract without the contract.
Get a device with out contract just as u would with one .
Pay it off on monthly payments, this is like metro pcs no Data caps, but faster data and pay minimal down toward a new device NO CONTRACT.
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We will all be seeing a very nice thing march 28th from tmobile... soon thanks to a big mouth rep .
Postpaid 4g no caps on data no "contract" Truly unlimited.
This is like a contract without the contract.
Get a device with out contract just as u would with one .
Pay it off on monthly payments, this is like metro pcs no Data caps, but faster data and pay minimal down toward a new device NO CONTRACT.
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Seems like they are starting to implement "merge changes" from their deal with metro.
this...is my BOOM stick!

lncoln said:
Seems like they are starting to implement "merge changes" from their deal with metro.
this...is my BOOM stick!
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This doesn't have anything to do with metro, this has more to do with them trying to pioneer something new. More of a European business model, for people that see the value of it it will be a great thing. Some people still think that getting a phone cheap with a contract is better no matter what though. They rather pay out the ass then save money by buying a phone full price. I for one hope it's insanely successful because if it is not only is it good for tmobile but we might see manufacturers finally compete to have lower cost devices rather than, all these carriers charging an arm and a leg just so they don't lose profit subsidizing handset. The reason I said this doesn't have to do with the metro thing is because tmobile is keeping prepaid around and credit will still be required for you to be trusted with a phone payment plan on postpaid. Tmobile is trying something new and if it catches on then we should see nice growth for tmobile and carriers having to change up there prices and stuff to compete.
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Its kind of like the value plan they have now. That is what I have for over 3 years now. I pay cheap on monthly plan and unlimited everything '5gb' and when ever I update phones I pay a down of like $200 and then $20 per month for the phone till is paid off with no interest rate
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I'm already on post paid unlimited plan with no data cap. The only thing I'm missing from my previous "unlimited" 5 gig plan is data tethering (hotspot feature) but they dont even offer it as an add on for note2
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I'll stick with my current prepaid plan, it's still cheaper and has better coverage. When Tmobile gets better coverage I'll consider it. In my area they are way too spotty. I do believe it's a step in the right direction.
Can you imagine how fast IPhone sales would drop if all the carriers stop subsidizing the phone purchase. I'm sure super Android phones would suffer too.

All prepaid as of 2 months ago is truly unlimited NO CAP after 5gigs , if anyone hasnt noticed this just tether all your devices, run up a gig a day after 5 gigs you'll see that your still pulling 10-16mg downloads depending on coverage.
The post paid will be just like prepaid but they will offer insurance on existing and new handsets same unlimited data NO CAPS even after 5gigs.
And you will be prioritized in the network coverage when the coverage becomes congested, this isn't the same for prepaid customers.
All in all unlimited hspa I call it not really 4g lte speeds but good enough, option to add something like 120 $ down extra to finance a phone into monthly payments and all this with NO Contract
March 28th they say Or so a tmobile corporate rep told me the day I went to reinstate my contract and he said why bother stay on prepaid for a few more weeks and reap the benefits of contract features without a contract!
This is about the best thing tmobile has implemented in some time now.
It's essentially same as if Verizon was to all sudden flick a switch and give everyone back there unlimited data .It's a great move by tmobile, giving back something they once took away.
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To reiterate, I was trying to say this new revision on tmobile data ,is in part like Metro pcs , in which up until recently Metro was the only carrier that gave u true 4g lte for" one set price a month" that's the key one set price..... For new customers, no contract which used to be 10gigs max on contract
Now tmobile has this since they did away with the 5g caps on the prepaid .They also did away with a data cap on contract plans , , essentially they are giving back truly unlimited this would make tmobile and Metro the only two carriers doing so for new customers , unless you are "Grandfathered in " with att or vzw on there UL data.
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I can comfirm this on the $30 plan. After 5gb still no cap. I love this. Truely unlimted 4g for $30.
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We will all be seeing a very nice thing march 28th from tmobile... soon thanks to a big mouth rep .
Postpaid 4g no caps on data no "contract" Truly unlimited.
This is like a contract without the contract.
Get a device with out contract just as u would with one .
Pay it off on monthly payments, this is like metro pcs no Data caps, but faster data and pay minimal down toward a new device NO CONTRACT.
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I'll go ahead and confirm this as well. I work for the company. There's going to be a HUGE switch on March 24th to be exact. Trade in programs. No contract plans. Unlimited everything. $50 starts you with unlimited talk and text with 500mb throttled data included already. $20 extra for just truly unlimited. Or $10 for every 2GB, pay per use. You do what you want. If you leave while paying off the device, you just get billed for the device. Family plans are the same way except it's 40 instead of 50 starting out. Add a line is simply $10 then $10 for data.
Huge question everyone is asking is can I move to this plan right away? Yes. You'll still finish your contract though. They won't just let everyone cut their contract. This only applies if you're already on the value plan (monthly installments). If you're a classic/legacy plan, they will charge a migration fee. But I'm pretty sure that'll negate your contract.
This is all leaked info already on the Web, so I'm not really doing anything bad here by disclosing this. Just making it easier for people to understand, I'm super excited about what these plans have to offer and you all should too. With them doubling their coverage this year and rolling out LTE with no contract, it's a great time to be a customer or an employee. If you have questions, ask!
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I can comfirm this on the $30 plan. After 5gb still no cap. I love this. Truely unlimted 4g for $30.
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is this a contract plan or prepaid?

mitul2288 said:
is this a contract plan or prepaid?
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Prepaid!
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I'll go ahead and confirm this as well. I work for the company. There's going to be a HUGE switch on March 24th to be exact. Trade in programs. No contract plans. Unlimited everything. $50 starts you with unlimited talk and text with 500mb throttled data included already. $20 extra for just truly unlimited. Or $10 for every 2GB, pay per use. You do what you want. If you leave while paying off the device, you just get billed for the device. Family plans are the same way except it's 40 instead of 50 starting out. Add a line is simply $10 then $10 for data.
Huge question everyone is asking is can I move to this plan right away? Yes. You'll still finish your contract though. They won't just let everyone cut their contract. This only applies if you're already on the value plan (monthly installments). If you're a classic/legacy plan, they will charge a migration fee. But I'm pretty sure that'll negate your contract.
This is all leaked info already on the Web, so I'm not really doing anything bad here by disclosing this. Just making it easier for people to understand, I'm super excited about what these plans have to offer and you all should too. With them doubling their coverage this year and rolling out LTE with no contract, it's a great time to be a customer or an employee. If you have questions, ask!
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My wife and I are on the 1000 minute family plan. Switching to this new plan would be a price jump for us. we both have 2 GB data plans. I guessing the soft cap on those won't go anywhere unless we change plans right? Also, if I want to get a unlimited data plan but keep my current plan will I need to make that move now? would I be forced to switch plans to get it after the 24th?

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My wife and I are on the 1000 minute family plan. Switching to this new plan would be a price jump for us. we both have 2 GB data plans. I guessing the soft cap on those won't go anywhere unless we change plans right? Also, if I want to get a unlimited data plan but keep my current plan will I need to make that move now? would I be forced to switch plans to get it after the 24th?
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You aren't forced to make ANY switches. You can keep your plan. But it's considered grandfathered as of the 24th. It should be cheaper. The plans aren't solid, but they're making them the cheapest they've ever been ever. Things are still up in the air and not definite.
If you decide to upgrade to unlimited data, you shouldn't have to change plans just to change your data package.
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XCrazedxPyroX said:
I'll go ahead and confirm this as well. I work for the company. There's going to be a HUGE switch on March 24th to be exact. Trade in programs. No contract plans. Unlimited everything. $50 starts you with unlimited talk and text with 500mb throttled data included already. $20 extra for just truly unlimited. Or $10 for every 2GB, pay per use. You do what you want. If you leave while paying off the device, you just get billed for the device. Family plans are the same way except it's 40 instead of 50 starting out. Add a line is simply $10 then $10 for data.
Huge question everyone is asking is can I move to this plan right away? Yes. You'll still finish your contract though. They won't just let everyone cut their contract. This only applies if you're already on the value plan (monthly installments). If you're a classic/legacy plan, they will charge a migration fee. But I'm pretty sure that'll negate your contract.
This is all leaked info already on the Web, so I'm not really doing anything bad here by disclosing this. Just making it easier for people to understand, I'm super excited about what these plans have to offer and you all should too. With them doubling their coverage this year and rolling out LTE with no contract, it's a great time to be a customer or an employee. If you have questions, ask!
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Employee here! I second this! Truuue!
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so whats the best bet for me?
i pay $124 a month for
unlimited text/mms and 1000 shared minutes between 2 phones.
i'd like to cut my contracts and separate the phones. but my contract isn't up for two years.
what's my best plan of action.
also note - that i only get $124 because of my 15% educator discount or else i'd be paying somewhere
along the $180 mark for the above plan.

Amen for the Lte can anyone confirm that with the lte rollout we will see better coverage in dead zones , lte on new towers? I only ask cause it is spotty in many areas .Hoping the lte band will give better reception.
Any word on lte speed comparisons to the other two carriers ?
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You'll essentially be paying 70 per line for truly unlimited data txt calla so 140 $ .I'd say for the extra 16 $ its worth it .No hassle no contract still get insured on phones a lot of upside to the move .
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Amen for the Lte can anyone confirm that with the lte rollout we will see better coverage in dead zones , lte on new towers? I only ask cause it is spotty in many areas .Hoping the lte band will give better reception.
Any word on lte speed comparisons to the other two carriers ?
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Well, right now in areas where they are preping LTE (like mine in OKC) HSPA+ has gotten a lot slower. If I have the 1900 Mhz refarm, it is fine, but otherwise it is down to 3-5 mb/s. I know that T-Mobile has AWS 1700/2100 in two groups in OKC. A 2x10 and a 2x5. My guess is that they moved the HSPA+ from 2x10 to 2x5 so the LTE can be on the 2x10. So right now they would be in testing on it and gradually hitting the 1900 refarm. Eventually, I think the goal is for most HSPA+ to be on 1900 with LTE on the AWS 1700/2100.
Getting back to your question and my point, I think LTE will improve existing coverage slightly as I think it does offer a little better transmission over HSPA+ at the same frequency. However, unless they roll it out in more towers/areas, it won't have a drastic improvement. The other possibilities is that pepping for it might be hurting your speeds as they have to free up space on the AWS 1700/2100 for the LTE. So that might be part of the problem for you.

Reception near pittsburgh pa

Is anyone on here from or near pittsburgh pa if so how is the 4g speeds and coverage I'm asking because I might switch from verizon but I dont want to get it if there is bad coverage or no 4g
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Check the t-mobile website for the network coverage..
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Check the t-mobile website for the network coverage..
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Okay thank you
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I'm in Pittsburgh specifically North Versailles and my speeds are pretty good. I have a constant LTE signal pretty much any where I go around town and the burbs.
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I was going to go with tmobile but with the new plan you have to pay like 200 down then $20 a month for 24 months it makes it almost the same as verizon it kinda sucks cause I was looking forward to unlimited data
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I was going to go with tmobile but with the new plan you have to pay like 200 down then $20 a month for 24 months it makes it almost the same as verizon it kinda sucks cause I was looking forward to unlimited data
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That's not new, it's been that way for 2 years. It's not a bad deal, Verizon doesn't offer unlimited data anymore. I have two lines with t mobile one with an EIP on the Jump program and 500 mb of data, the other line with unlimited everything plus insurance averages $160 a month after taxes. I priced Verizon and for everything unlimited it's a lot more.
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That's not new, it's been that way for 2 years. It's not a bad deal, Verizon doesn't offer unlimited data anymore. I have two lines with t mobile one with an EIP on the Jump program and 500 mb of data, the other line with unlimited everything plus insurance averages $160 a month after taxes. I priced Verizon and for everything unlimited it's a lot more.
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I have 3 phones on verizon we share 8gb of data and have unlimited talk&text I pay 220 a month
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Okay but you mentioned unlimited data, Verizon doesn't have unlimited data anymore, that's my point. Verizon CS is horrible, you wait two years to upgrade and they won't upgrade you early. I have been with AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon, horrid customer service, I switched to T Mobile two years ago and could not be happier. To each their own. If I took off unlimited data my bill would be $150 a month.
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I have 3 phones on verizon we share 8gb of data and have unlimited talk&text I pay 220 a month
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My monthly bill for 2 phones on their truly unlimited plan is only 130 after taxes. Thats counting eip on my note 2. Wifes lg is paid off. Was 140 then. If you ask me.... no matter how you look at it , 60/month ( not counting eip ) is a hell of a lot cheaper than anywhere else.
Now lets do tmobiles math
60/ month for 24 months = $1440
200 down + 480 (20/month for 24 months)= 680
Over 2 years you will have spent $2120
For verizon, not even counting the initial cost of the phone pre-subsidizing ( 300 ), you already spent more lol.
Verizon= $99/month
$99*24= 2376 + 299 for the note2 = $2675
Mind you, tmobile charges 680 outright and verizon charges 699 off contract for the note 2. You can clearly see they get much more money from you and give you less.
Edit. Last I checked verizons unlimited plan was 99. I cant seem to find anything on their website comparable. Going by my usage on tmobile and their (verizons) family share plan..... id be at the 40gb shared plan....ouch! Its even more ! $300/ month for 2 lines unlimited talk/text and 40gb ( 20gb each if split evenly ). Thank god I have Tmobile!
Id chew through 8gb of data alone in a few days just on netflix. My son watches while we are out of the house. Thats not counting my wife who skype video calls her family everyday overseas. How can you survive on only 8?
I even use wifi while im at home and at work too. When I dont, I can hit 60+gb alone! Keep in mind, each rom download is 1gb, 1 netflix movie is 1gb, and pandora / slacker / youtube add up fast too. Heck 1 movie a day puts you at 30gb / month + lol. I got hooked watching Merlin on netflix. That was 86 episodes and I finished it in 2 weeks. I could only imagine how much data id have used if I weren't on my homes fiber line.
Why buy a phone like this if you are limited in how / when you can use it?
Oh and I have LTE at work and pretty much everywhere when I'm out of the house. Can't beat it!
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I would love to switch to tmobile but I cant see only saving a few bucks to switch to less coverage ....when I looked originally at tmobile I figures about 160 for all three of us then I found out you have to pay about 200 and 20 bucks a month for each sevice which puts it at about 210 I cant see myself switching to save 10 dollars now if it was the 160 a month for all three I would have switched yesterday like I wanted to
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My monthly bill for 2 phones on their truly unlimited plan is only 130 after taxes. Thats counting eip on my note 2. Wifes lg is paid off. Was 140 then. If you ask me.... no matter how you look at it , 60/month ( not counting eip ) is a hell of a lot cheaper than anywhere else.
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Do you have any insurance on your phones? Are you on post paid or pre paid?
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I did have their php protection but recently had a bad experience with asurion. I dropped it on both lines out of principle. She had her phone for 2 years, never used insurance once. I had it for 2 on my galaxy s2..... never used it. 2 years of 7.99/month on 2 lines = 383.92 mind you.The first week i had my note2, i dropped it and broke the screen. Paid the deductible, sent in the phone, and figured all was well. I didnt save any of the tracking numbers they gave me. Well they couldnt find the phone. Billed me another 300 .... wtf. Luckily Tmobile worked with me through it and helped alleviate the $300 charge after weeks of fighting it. It was a "we found it". Oh wait we didnt ". Oh wait we did find the imei in our warehouse. Oh wait again..... we didnt" kind of scenario. Next phones will get a squaretrade warranty methinks.
Had I said I lost it like everyone else would have, they wouldnt have gotten it back anyway. Nope.... im honest... see where it got me?
Anyway my plan breakdown is like this
2x family plan =79.99 /month
2x unlimited data =40 /month
Eip = 20/month
Thats 140+tax but I also get a small discount which knocks about 15-20 off my bill.
Granted im in a major city (Baltimore MD ) and even cricket wireless gets decent coverage. Regardless, I was paying over 220/month for 2 lines on AT&T. That was without unlimited data.
Cricket was 50/ month and tmobile was 60....wasnt a hard choice knowing tmobile had 4g and was getting lte at the time lol
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I did have their php protection but recently had a bad experience with asurion. I dropped it on both lines. My plan breakdown is like this
2x family plan =79.99 /month
2x unlimited data =40 /month
Eip = 20/month
Thats 140+tax but I also get a small diacount which knocks about 15 off my bill.
Granted im in a major city (Baltimore MD ) and even cricket wireless gets decent coverage. Regardless, I was paying over 220/month for 2 lines on AT&T. That was without unlimited data.
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Thanks, I have the same plan but enrolled in Jump on the EIP line because it's cheaper than the insurance alone. What happened with Asurion?
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Thanks, I have the same plan but enrolled in Jump on the EIP line because it's cheaper than the insurance alone. What happened with Asurion?
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I edited my post with a whole story lol. Lets just say ill never use asurion again. Tmobile basically ate the 300 for me. Excellent customer service. They treated me better than at&t ever did... and I was with them there way back when they were cellular 1, then Cingular Wireless. 15yrs or so.
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I edited my post with a whole story lol. Lets just say ill never use asurion again. Tmobile basically ate the 300 for me. Excellent customer service. They treated me better than at&t ever did... and I was with them there way back when they were cellular 1, then Cingular Wireless. 15yrs or so.
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Thanks, I have used Asurion before when I was on Nextel, I always said that I lost the phone for that exact reason.
T Mobile customer service is outstanding, when I switched from AT&T and had a $200 etf, I told T Mobile and they gave me a bill credit of $120. I wasn't asking them for anything I was switching my mom over from Sprint and mentioned the ETF from AT&T and they just gave me a credit. I wasn't happy with the HTC Sensations I had purchased and they upgraded me 6 months early and again gave me a $120 credit. Outstanding customer service!
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Thanks, I have used Asurion before when I was on Nextel, I always said that I lost the phone for that exact reason.
T Mobile customer service is outstanding, when I switched from AT&T and had a $200 etf, I told T Mobile and they gave me a bill credit of $120. I wasn't asking them for anything I was switching my mom over from Sprint and mentioned the ETF from AT&T and they just gave me a credit. I wasn't happy with the HTC Sensations I had purchased and they upgraded me 6 months early and again gave me a $120 credit. Outstanding customer service!
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Thats just awesome! Most times I call them, I reach the customer service center in the Philippines.... They are always so pleasant
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I would love to switch to tmobile but I cant see only saving a few bucks to switch to less coverage ....when I looked originally at tmobile I figures about 160 for all three of us then I found out you have to pay about 200 and 20 bucks a month for each sevice which puts it at about 210 I cant see myself switching to save 10 dollars now if it was the 160 a month for all three I would have switched yesterday like I wanted to
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You forget that after the phone is payed for your bill will reflect that. With verizon you keep paying for the phone after you payed it off because it is not a separate line item on the bill.
I have both verizon and t-mobile. When I am in a city I use strictly t-mobile, unlimited (real unlimited) data is a hard thing to beat. The t-mobile LTE speeds aren't bad, I can live with them. Verizon LTE speed is just insanely fast.
I drive all over the country for work. I tried using just t-mobile, but once you get outside of a major city you are looking at edge networks at best on data, if at all. I have to use google maps, and pre-caching a journey from New Jersey to California is just not happening.
When t-mobile couldn't cut it on the dark spots between city lights, I got verizon. I will say I was 4G when I drove from New Jersey to California, LTE even almost the whole way.
If you are in a place where you will tend to stay there, and it is a city with 4G/LTE on T-mobile, they are fantastic. Just don't go to nowhere, usa and expect service.
My verizon bill of $110 versus my t-mobile bill of $70-something.
If I had to pick one or the other, i'd choose t-mobile because of the unlimited data, and then figure something else out for getting navigation off-network outside of major cities. My minimum network data is something north of 12 gigs a month and I can't afford buying it from verizon by the megabyte.

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You forget that after the phone is payed for your bill will reflect that. With verizon you keep paying for the phone after you payed it off because it is not a separate line item on the bill.
I have both verizon and t-mobile. When I am in a city I use strictly t-mobile, unlimited (real unlimited) data is a hard thing to beat. The t-mobile LTE speeds aren't bad, I can live with them. Verizon LTE speed is just insanely fast.
I drive all over the country for work. I tried using just t-mobile, but once you get outside of a major city you are looking at edge networks at best on data, if at all. I have to use google maps, and pre-caching a journey from New Jersey to California is just not happening.
When t-mobile couldn't cut it on the dark spots between city lights, I got verizon. I will say I was 4G when I drove from New Jersey to California, LTE even almost the whole way.
If you are in a place where you will tend to stay there, and it is a city with 4G/LTE on T-mobile, they are fantastic. Just don't go to nowhere, usa and expect service.
My verizon bill of $110 versus my t-mobile bill of $70-something.
If I had to pick one or the other, i'd choose t-mobile because of the unlimited data, and then figure something else out for getting navigation off-network outside of major cities. My minimum network data is something north of 12 gigs a month and I can't afford buying it from verizon by the megabyte.
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All that does make sense but I would be buying a new phone every 2 years or even 1 so I would always be paying the $20 dollars a month per phone idk if I want that and traveling to my wife's parents I would only get 2g there at least that's what the tmobile site shows on the map. ..I appreciate the info guys maybe I'll switch to tmobile after my dads plan is up and see how it is
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