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Are we dumb or is Sprint very smart

As I continue to struggle with poor 3g service on my SIII in the (614) area a thought came to mind " WE ARE PAYING FOR PREMIUM DATA" and we are getting 3g service..mmmmm
And yes I know what you are saying " we knew from the beginning that the SIII only had 3g for now" BUT WE ARE PAYING FOR PREMIUM DATA! and yet we still bought it. So should Sprint issue a small credit our way? I THINK SO...won't happened but I THINK SO..

We are dumb lol unless you got lte coming to your city soon!

xBryan said:
We are dumb lol unless you got lte coming to your city soon!
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Not any time soon for me. So yes.. I'm dumb.

This is why I left Sprint and we to t mobile. Having a much better experience so far
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Sprint doesn't even provide 3g data. Constantly getting less than 0.5mbps is awful, especially in a large city like DC

was telling a co-worker thursday that he should call & see if they will wave it for him. i have been getting the $10 credited back on my bill since they started this with the evo i believe. worth a try.

mankoorb said:
was telling a co-worker thursday that he should call & see if they will wave it for him. i have been getting the $10 credited back on my bill since they started this with the evo i believe. worth a try.
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Nice I'm trying that tomorrow. Thanks

Your dumb. I just left sprint and am paying $45 a month with no contract getting 4 mb down when I could barely get half a meg download in this area with sprint. With unlimited minutes and text gsm style with straight talk. You know what I'm still not happy. Gonna get a phone that supports both t-mobile and at&t 4g so I always have a choice. Let sprint worry about selling 20 billion dollars worth of iPhones while I get a better deal with my service.
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r3a1ist said:
Your dumb. I just left sprint and am paying $45 a month with no contract getting 4 mb down when I could barely get half a meg download in this area with sprint. With unlimited minutes and text gsm style with straight talk. You know what I'm still not happy. Gonna get a phone that supports both t-mobile and at&t 4g so I always have a choice. Let sprint worry about selling 20 billion dollars worth of iPhones while I get a better deal with my service.
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Right behind you. Sprint is ripping people off. I will be switching to verizon hopefully as soon as someone confirms the S3 world capabilities with a sim swap. I pay way too much to not be use my data
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Man that sucks for you guys, I left sprint for slow service too, I like their phone and customer service but their network is too slow
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kryptoniteman said:
Right behind you. Sprint is ripping people off. I will be switching to verizon hopefully as soon as someone confirms the S3 world capabilities with a sim swap. I pay way too much to not be use my data
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I just left Verizon after several years of service. Their ceo is currently insane and you will pay out of the ass. Go tmobile.
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I was dumb for two years on Sprint after the premium data thing, getting an Evo 4G and Evo 3D, neither of which had 4G WiMax in my area, and slow ass 3G speeds of about 1mbit on a good day.
I have an HTC Thunderbolt on VZW at work and I have LTE in my city. Getting upwards of 20mbit down on that, and 2mbit+ on 3G, and we get 22% discount for personal lines from my job for VZW...so yeah...the day my GS3 comes in for VZW, I'll be dropping Sprint (finally). I've had it with all these empty promises. I'll pay an extra couple bucks a month for good service and limit 5GB data.
I considered TMobile and AT&T but neither of them have 4G here. I don't think they even have fauxG.

kryptoniteman said:
Right behind you. Sprint is ripping people off. I will be switching to verizon hopefully as soon as someone confirms the S3 world capabilities with a sim swap. I pay way too much to not be use my data
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Yep,that's why i just switched to Verizon!!! Tired of sprints Bullsh*t. Now i will have one of the best phones on one of the best 4G networks, and its only $30.00 more per month about $1.15 cent extra per day, Easy decision for me!!! Unlimited talk, text, 4GB of data, and free Mobile Hot spot, $110.00 with insurance for $6.99 with $99.00 deductible $116.00... Sprint insurance is crazy high... Verizon just changed their plans again, Now all plans are called (shared plans) even if you have just one line like me.
Shared Plan(s) Monthly Account Access
Share Everything Unlimited Talk, Text & 4GB $70.00
Item Description Quantity Your Price
Samsung Galaxy S III 32GB in Blue 1 $249.99
Your Plan
Share Everything Unlimited Talk, Text & 4GB
Monthly Line Access $40.00
Plan Features
CALLER ID
BUSY TRANSFER
3-WAY CALLING
CALL DELIVERY
CALL WAITING
NO ANSWER TRANSFER
CALL FORWARDING
RTR/UC TRIGGER ALP $0
EMAIL TRIGGER ALP $0
DATA PROVISION ALP
TXT MSG W PER MSG CHARGES
MOBILE HOT SPOT TRIGGER $0
BASIC VOICE MAIL - $0
TEXT MESSAGING
DYNAMIC-PRIVATE IP
TEC ASURION $6.99
MOBILE HOTSPOT 4G PROVISIONING
RTR FOR ALP
4G APPLICATION ACCESS
4G INTERNET ACCESS
VERIZON APPS $0
EMAIL ACCESS PDA $0
SDM REMOTE QUERY ENABLED
4G PROVISIONING $0
STREAMLINED BILLING - $0
USA ONLY NO ROAM - $0
PICTURE MESSAGE PROVISIONING
OTA SOFTWAREUPDATE-$0.00
ELECTAGREE 2YR AGREEMENT-$0
Additional Items
HOL: SAM I535 SHELL 1 $29.99
DFILLSIM3FF-A $0.00
Shipping Fee $0.00
Order Subtotal Today $ 279.98
Sales Tax* $ 19.60
Shipping $ 0.00
Order Total Today $ 299.58
Total Monthly Charges** $ 116.99

we are dumb my friend

Its too bad that Boost mobile has such poor coverage and the same goes for the Walmart brand and Virgin so my hope is that Boost gets their act together and give them a try. At&t, T-mobile and Verizon are over priced so our options are few.

How you figure T mobile is over price? Lol anyway while people say T mobile aren't a real 4g speed Company. I'm very satisfied with the speeds I get! Feel bad for you guys. 1mb down is so my g1 days
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It's cheap, unlimited, and fast enough for most things. 4G is coming to my area in the next couple of months. For me, there isn't a better option.

cwalker29 said:
How you figure T mobile is over price? Lol anyway while people say T mobile aren't a real 4g speed Company. I'm very satisfied with the speeds I get! Feel bad for you guys. 1mb down is so my g1 days
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I feel I may have offended you with my T-Mobile is too expensive comment and I'm sorry for that but THEY ARE!! $125.00 for so called unlimited up to 10gigs for one line??? Come on!!

I left Sprint a month ago after 4 years and came to AT&T. Never been happier
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Looks like TMo has a good deal right now with unlimited minutes & text with 5GB data for $95/mo. The main problem I have with TMo though is that they throttle you after your cap. I'd rather be charged $10 and continue to dl at ridiculous speeds.

T-mobile newbie feeling a bit confused

Ok today I decided to take T-mobile for a 14 day ride, thanks to it's new truly unlimited plan and test out the service at my home and at work.
I sign up for something called a value plan where I put down $149.99 for the GS3 and im being charged in installments of $20 for the remainder balance of the phone, which was $549.99. I'm fine with that cause my total bill will be at or around the same I paid over at sprint.
Now this is where I get confused. If I go to the other carriers I would normally just pay the 149 dollars and pick a plan and I'll be committed for the 2 years.
Why is it that Tmobile goes about it this way? My other option was to pay something like $300 for the phone and sign up for a more expensive plan.
The way they lay out their plans are confusing. Did I go about it the best way? Am I getting the better deal?
I figure buy now ask questions later. After all I have 14 days to figure it all out.
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The value plan is for those customers that already own a phone outright or those that are willing to pay full retail for the phone. They are nice enough to allow you to make payments on the phone instead of having to pay nearly 700 outright. They reward you for this by offering their plans at a cheaper price. If you want to take advantage of the cheaper phone because of the subsidy then you can not get the value plan and you pay a higher monthly fee for service. I hope you are understanding this.
For me I always buy my phone outright so I use the value plan. Can't beat $70 a month for unlimited everything.

Well said. Also, if you happen upon some extra cash while on the value plan, you can pay for your phone in full and knock off the extra $20 every month like I did.

Once i sell my Sprint GS3, I'll pay off the phone.
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shook187 said:
Once i sell my Sprint GS3, I'll pay off the phone.
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Best way of doing it. And welcome to the Tmobile family!
How's the service in your area btw? Were you getting LTE with Sprint?

I love this plan I only pay 78$ @ month once the 20$payments are done I'll be paying 58$ at month, 5$ less with truly unlimited,
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shook187 said:
Ok today I decided to take T-mobile for a 14 day ride, thanks to it's new truly unlimited plan and test out the service at my home and at work.
I sign up for something called a value plan where I put down $149.99 for the GS3 and im being charged in installments of $20 for the remainder balance of the phone, which was $549.99. I'm fine with that cause my total bill will be at or around the same I paid over at sprint.
Now this is where I get confused. If I go to the other carriers I would normally just pay the 149 dollars and pick a plan and I'll be committed for the 2 years.
Why is it that Tmobile goes about it this way? My other option was to pay something like $300 for the phone and sign up for a more expensive plan.
The way they lay out their plans are confusing. Did I go about it the best way? Am I getting the better deal?
I figure buy now ask questions later. After all I have 14 days to figure it all out.
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I came from sprint too and have had tmo for 2 months. Depending on where you get the phone but value plans are usually the better plan not only because your monthly is cheaper compared to classic plans ($20 more a month) but value plans have the benefit of having additional options such as when you add data to your plan. For example the unlimited plan is $20 for value members but I believe its $30 for classic members. So as long as youre sure you got the value plan then you've made the right choice...on that part anyway.
Here's where you couldve saved more. If you bought your phone from Costco, the phone retails for $389 so you pay for that out right and stay with value plans. Classic plans you pay $20 more a month ($84.99/month) but you get the phone cheaper. Kinda weird though but it seems you got it the other way around.

babymatteo said:
Best way of doing it. And welcome to the Tmobile family!
How's the service in your area btw? Were you getting LTE with Sprint?
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Service (data speeds) so far been great at home. Getting 14 up and 2 down. The next test is at work tonight. Its only been a few hours and im happy so far. I intend to test drive T-Mobil the full 14 days before making my decision to keep it or not.
As far as sprint goes, I really couldn't complain about the voice service. 3G data on the other hand that's another issue. Being from the Boston market we are on Sprints initial LTE roll out. My phone actually picked up LTE for a few minutes while on the highway, but who knows when the actual roll out will take place. Im impatient so here I am.
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shook187 said:
Service (data speeds) so far been great at home. Getting 14 up and 2 down. The next test is at work tonight. Its only been a few hours and im happy so far. I intend to test drive T-Mobil the full 14 days before making my decision to keep it or not.
As far as sprint goes, I really couldn't complain about the voice service. 3G data on the other hand that's another issue. Being from the Boston market we are we are on Sprints initial LTE roll out. My phone actually picked up LTE for a few minutes while on the highway, but who knows when the actual roll out will take place. Im impatient so here I am.
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Yeah voice on sprint is actually really good, Tmobile seems to have more dead spots for data then sprint but their service is much faster on data, I have downloaded roms and big apps not problems with Tmobile, watching netflix and YouTube hd is great, on sprint I wasn't able to do that after the end of last year
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Costco lets you buy phones outright?
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It depends on how long you keep your phones. With other carriers they assume you'll upgrade every x years so they build that subsidy into your price. The crappy part is that the subsidy never goes away. With the value plan you get a no interest loan or get to bring your own phone and get a killer price. The only downside is if you're a new customer and after a few months want to cancel you have to pay the ETF plus the balance you owe on your phone. It's a good way to make cancelling super expensive.

Bigjim1488 said:
Costco lets you buy phones outright?
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Good question. I think initially you cant get walk out of Costco with the phone unless you sign up for a 2 yr plan even if you buy the phone for the retail $389. BUT....when I called after buying the phone and asked if I decided to cancel my plan would I have to return the phone. They said its up to me but I dont have to return it if I didnt want to.

This is the way I do my plan. Unlimited internet comes out cheaper. We can you find unlimited for $20 love t-mobile
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aznmode said:
Good question. I think initially you cant get walk out of Costco with the phone unless you sign up for a 2 yr plan even if you buy the phone for the retail $389. BUT....when I called after buying the phone and asked if I decided to cancel my plan would I have to return the phone. They said its up to me but I dont have to return it if I didnt want to.
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Hmm I should try this!
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aznmode said:
Good question. I think initially you cant get walk out of Costco with the phone unless you sign up for a 2 yr plan even if you buy the phone for the retail $389. BUT....when I called after buying the phone and asked if I decided to cancel my plan would I have to return the phone. They said its up to me but I dont have to return it if I didnt want to.
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If you buy a phone on contract you just have to pay your ETF. You don't return the phone, you bought it. There is no way Costco is selling the phone for $389 retail. That's a contract price.

I just left sprint and bought the galaxy s3. My problem is i only had sprint for 2 months but to barely get 25kb on 3g im not waiting and paying 160 a month for possible lte. So now ill have them annoy me about the etf. Just gotta find someone to buy my sprint galaxy. Tmobile is awesome so far
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wellsey1126 said:
I just left sprint and bought the galaxy s3. My problem is i only had sprint for 2 months but to barely get 25kb on 3g im not waiting and paying 160 a month for possible lte. So now ill have them annoy me about the etf. Just gotta find someone to buy my sprint galaxy. Tmobile is awesome so far
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I sold my evo lte to pay etf, the phone was amazing I wish it was available on tmobile, I like my gs3 but the evo lte was really good as well
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joshnichols189 said:
If you buy a phone on contract you just have to pay your ETF. You don't return the phone, you bought it. There is no way Costco is selling the phone for $389 retail. That's a contract price.
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I called about it while I was still under 14 days so there wouldn't have been an etf. I'm only going by What they told me. They never mentioned I had to pay extra for the phone if I dont return it.
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aznmode said:
I called about it while I was still under 14 days so there wouldn't have been an etf. I'm only going by What they told me. They never mentioned I had to pay extra for the phone if I dont return it.
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Don't think they will let you walk away with a phone for 199 or what not.
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Bigjim1488 said:
Don't think they will let you walk away with a phone for 199 or what not.
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I bought it for $389. Again whether they misinformed me or not im just simply stating What information they gave me.
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Straight Talk

I was told that if I bought a Simm card from them for $12 I could still use the T-Mobile service? Its $45 a month unlimited. If I pay 200 to term my T-mobile Account, I break even in 5 months??? Vs. the *0 a month I spend now. Is this true?????

ScottBroker said:
I was told that if I bought a Simm card from them for $12 I could still use the T-Mobile service? Its $45 a month unlimited. If I pay 200 to term my T-mobile Account, I break even in 5 months??? Vs. the *0 a month I spend now. Is this true?????
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I'm gonna guess you meant $80 since that is where the star key is on the keyboard and you are more than likely on a post paid plan. Yes, Straight Talk is just a virtual carrier of T-Mobile/AT&T. It is prepaid and there is limitations. T-Mobile also has prepaid Unlimited for $50 just so you have options here.
But there is a catch to Straight Talk – unlimited is actually limited. If you start using too much data, you WILL be cut off, and will lose your prepaid time, and they will disable your sim card / phone from working on their virtual network. Read fine print to understand the details of unlimited “web browsing” (that is no tethering, no downloading, no youtube). In a nutshell – Straight Talk will cut off heavy data users after about 2-3 GB in one month, and if you are not cut off right away, there is always that chance. If you use mobile web moderately, you are safe.
By contrast – T-Mo gives you 5GB of full speed data (up-to 42Mbps, which is comparable with LTE speeds), and even if you go over 5GB, they will throttle your speed to 2G – not cut you off or charge you extra.

Straighttalk WILL THROTTLE you even if you consume less than 1gb. I was 2 days into my month when my service was throttled. I called and it was fixed. (had consumed less than 200mbs) and then i was throtteled again the next day. They said i was being throttled and my regular speeds were gonna return when my service plan ended (which was like 27 days latee). I told them hell no and that i wanted the service i paided for. They said i had violated some terms for data usage and that i could not use tethering. Since then ive only used my cell to browse my emails and check news and its being throttled once again. Im moving to tmobile once my month is up.
If you use your phone moderately, you should be fine.
Im using a att micro sim.
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kobe4rings said:
Straighttalk WILL THROTTLE you even if you consume less than 1gb. I was 2 days into my month when my service was throttled. I called and it was fixed. (had consumed less than 200mbs) and then i was throtteled again the next day. They said i was being throttled and my regular speeds were gonna return when my service plan ended (which was like 27 days latee). I told them hell no and that i wanted the service i paided for. They said i had violated some terms for data usage and that i could not use tethering. Since then ive only used my cell to browse my emails and check news and its being throttled once again. Im moving to tmobile once my month is up.
If you use your phone moderately, you should be fine.
Im using a att micro sim.
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This has been reported using a StraightTalk SIM using at&T's network not the ones using T-Mobile's network though. StraightTalk service with a T-Mobile SIM rocks assuming TM has good coverage in your area.
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jlczl said:
This has been reported using a StraightTalk SIM using at&T's network not the ones using T-Mobile's network though. StraightTalk service with a T-Mobile SIM rocks assuming TM has good coverage in your area.
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Wow A lot to consider. I used 12 gigs last month w/o tethering. I was planning on buying a T-mobile Simm. But now, I have read 2 people saying I will be throttled. I guess I will call them and see. Someone mentioned a $50 T-mobile plan? I pay I think 80 for mine with the new unlimited data....

I have been using straight talm byop for like 8 months now. First with my htc amaze now with my galaxy s3 and I average close to 15gb a month. I have never been throttled.
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ScottBroker said:
Wow A lot to consider. I used 12 gigs last month w/o tethering. I was planning on buying a T-mobile Simm. But now, I have read 2 people saying I will be throttled. I guess I will call them and see. Someone mentioned a $50 T-mobile plan? I pay I think 80 for mine with the new unlimited data....
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Research this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
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I used 8 gigs last month no throttle att straigthtalk sim
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tgamble160 said:
I have been using straight talm byop for like 8 months now. First with my htc amaze now with my galaxy s3 and I average close to 15gb a month. I have never been throttled.
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Most ive used was like 3GBs and then the next cycle i got throttled for a whole month. I live in Puerto Rico btw but my brother lives in Orlando and he gets throttled too.

kobe4rings said:
Most ive used was like 3GBs and then the next cycle i got throttled for a whole month. I live in Puerto Rico btw but my brother lives in Orlando and he gets throttled too.
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If I cancel my T-Mobile now, my cycle reset today, will I get a credit, or do they make you pay the whole month?

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If I cancel my T-Mobile now, my cycle reset today, will I get a credit, or do they make you pay the whole month?
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if your talking about straighttalk. its non refundable.

They recently revamped their throttling...
I used to be able to get a reset when I called in to them.
Last week when I got throttled, I called them and they told me I was in violation of the agreement and it would be reset at the end of the cycle.
Called again and the rep did the reset... The very next day I got throttled again and I can't get anybody to give me a reset. (12 calls).
I am thinking that they give 2 resets per refill card or they are cutting off resets all-together.
Has anybody here got a reset since yesterday?

[Q] Sprint Note II vs T-Mobile Note II?

Hi,
I have the Sprint Note II in my hands now and have till tomorrow to return it. I am thinking of switching to T-Mobile. I LOVE this phone.
I am only worried about differences in the phone (if there are any negatives) and of course coverage and speeds. I hear T Mob has some great speeds but not when you travel out of major cities. Anyone with experience of both carriers?
I love that Tmob is GSM since I do travel int. And I can get a small bus plan so my bill is only $50/month compared to $70 w Sprint. Plus, you get free hotspot and I don't need to root to get free tethering.
As far as phone, are there any major differences? Is T Mob usually behind on updates as I've had Multi Window since I bought the phone on the 4th?
Anything else you can tell me? BTW, my battery is phenomenal. I am sitting on almost 2 days of battery usage. Same for T Mob?
Thanks for any answers!!

You would probably get more answers in the tmob forum ...as they have the phone and we all have the sprint one like u right now . But it is pretty much the same phone
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Epix4G said:
You would probably get more answers in the tmob forum ...as they have the phone and we all have the sprint one like u right now . But it is pretty much the same phone
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Ya thanks, I actually posted in both. I fgure there are some Sprint or T Mob users who have switched carriers and can offer insight.
As far as phone, the GSM feature I think makes the T Mob version more flexible.

I think the tmob one has native video calling also .... which ours doesn't
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You do realize that the Sprint version can run on GSM as well right?

I cant confirm this but the tmo version might have wireless charging because its a gsm phone. Its pretty much the same phone. Updates have been faster on Sprint but tmo is not too far back.
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I just made the switch and sold my Sprint Note 2 before switching to Tmobile. The phones are essentially the same, however, the Tmobile version comes with WiFi calling.
The only regret I have is not switching sooner. The data and voice is amazing and the prices are much cheaper than Sprint.
I don't know if GsM supports HD voice but really, who cares.
I'm very happy to answer any questions you may have.
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Sho'nuff75 said:
Hi,
I have the Sprint Note II in my hands now and have till tomorrow to return it. I am thinking of switching to T-Mobile. I LOVE this phone.
I am only worried about differences in the phone (if there are any negatives) and of course coverage and speeds. I hear T Mob has some great speeds but not when you travel out of major cities. Anyone with experience of both carriers?
I love that Tmob is GSM since I do travel int. And I can get a small bus plan so my bill is only $50/month compared to $70 w Sprint. Plus, you get free hotspot and I don't need to root to get free tethering.
As far as phone, are there any major differences? Is T Mob usually behind on updates as I've had Multi Window since I bought the phone on the 4th?
Anything else you can tell me? BTW, my battery is phenomenal. I am sitting on almost 2 days of battery usage. Same for T Mob?
Thanks for any answers!!
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There are more ROM options because many are pulled from ATT or the international version. Battery life is about the same. Multi Window is available on some ROMS but Tmobile hasn't officially been updated yet.
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1 T-Mobile runs on a GSM network, So 3g speeds are pretty same as Sprint's LTE speeds. As because it's not true 4g but still faster in some cases.
2 because it is a GSM network the battery life is far superior.
3 has a SIM card
4 is possibly even cheaper in the store depending on if the running a sale or not. Before T-Mobile had it for 199 rebate so you pay the 300 but get a mail in rebate for 100.
5 I have checked both coverage maps from Sprint and T Mobile and to be honest are pretty much the same only in certain places 1 another might be better or not. All on T-Mobile note 2 forum as well.
by the way the free tethering 1 Will throttle you verses on the nation 4g without the tethering.
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ptfdmedic said:
There are more ROM options because many are pulled from ATT or the international version. Battery life is about the same. Multi Window is available on some ROMS but Tmobile hasn't officially been updated yet.
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T Mob is getting the multi window rolled out tomorrow. The girl at the store had no clue about LTE. The Note II has the radios for it, just not turned on right now, correct? Do you think there will be any limits on LTE network? I get unlimited with the small bus plan.

XxLostSoulxX said:
1 T-Mobile runs on a GSM network, So 3g speeds are pretty same as Sprint's LTE speeds. As because it's not true 4g but still faster in some cases.
2 because it is a GSM network the battery life is far superior.
3 has a SIM card
4 is possibly even cheaper in the store depending on if the running a sale or not. Before T-Mobile had it for 199 rebate so you pay the 300 but get a mail in rebate for 100.
5 I have checked both coverage maps from Sprint and T Mobile and to be honest are pretty much the same only in certain places 1 another might be better or not. All on T-Mobile note 2 forum as well.
by the way the free tethering 1 Will throttle you verses on the nation 4g without the tethering.
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They still have the $100 rebate. They will also give me a $200 per line credit for switching over to the business plan. So the phone will cost me $460 tax included. I paid $320 for it from Sprint but my plan is $20 more a month which obviously adds up over the years.
I did check the coverage map and there's the rub. I live in Hawaii. Honolulu is great for either service. BUT, I also used to live on Kauai and still have a condo there so I visit often and could move back eventually and the service is 2G there! Yikes. But, I don't see me going back for a couple years at minimum for long term stay so if the service still sucks then, maybe I switch to someone else if I do move back.
Can you explain the free tethering throttle? I heard it's after 5GB which is enough for me. Thanks!
BTW, Thanks for the responses. I returned the Note II to Sprint last night and will likely be joining T Mob today!

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I just made the switch and sold my Sprint Note 2 before switching to Tmobile. The phones are essentially the same, however, the Tmobile version comes with WiFi calling.
The only regret I have is not switching sooner. The data and voice is amazing and the prices are much cheaper than Sprint.
I don't know if GsM supports HD voice but really, who cares.
I'm very happy to answer any questions you may have.
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See i get 23% discount for Sprint, ATT, Verizon, but none for T-Mobile so for me its actually cheaper on sprint we pay $209.76 for 1500 Shared minutes(land-lines), Any Mobile to Mobile, Unlimited text, Unlimited Data. TEP on 3 Note 2's. for T-Mobile i would have to pay $245+ for same setup pretty much we pay about $5K every 2 years. T-Mobile would be $6K
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They still have the $100 rebate. They will also give me a $200 per line credit for switching over to the business plan. So the phone will cost me $460 tax included. I paid $320 for it from Sprint but my plan is $20 more a month which obviously adds up over the years.
I did check the coverage map and there's the rub. I live in Hawaii. Honolulu is great for either service. BUT, I also used to live on Kauai and still have a condo there so I visit often and could move back eventually and the service is 2G there! Yikes. But, I don't see me going back for a couple years at minimum for long term stay so if the service still sucks then, maybe I switch to someone else if I do move back.
Can you explain the free tethering throttle? I heard it's after 5GB which is enough for me. Thanks!
BTW, Thanks for the responses. I returned the Note II to Sprint last night and will likely be joining T Mob today!
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Yeah they have a 5GB and 10GB of No throttling with WiFi Tethering hotspot, but if you go over than its Throttled. Whereas 4G Nationwide plan its all unlimited and you can simply get a wifi hotspot tether app for free.

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See i get 23% discount for Sprint, ATT, Verizon, but none for T-Mobile so for me its actually cheaper on sprint we pay $209.76 for 1500 Shared minutes(land-lines), Any Mobile to Mobile, Unlimited text, Unlimited Data. TEP on 3 Note 2's. for T-Mobile i would have to pay $245+ for same setup pretty much we pay about $5K every 2 years. T-Mobile would be $6K
Yeah they have a 5GB and 10GB of No throttling with WiFi Tethering hotspot, but if you go over than its Throttled. Whereas 4G Nationwide plan its all unlimited and you can simply get a wifi hotspot tether app for free.
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I got 24% discount from Sprint so that's why I was at $70. With my small bus plan with T Mob, I'll be at $50.
Thanks for the info, but I don't go over 5GB anyway, so I'll be fine.
As far as tethering on Sprint for free, I had to root my EVO. I like that I don't even have to root or hack T Mob and have hotspot for free and get the GSM without doing all these mods I've been reading about on Sprint so you can try to insert a SIM.
But hey, we all have different needs and you're stoked with Sprint. I was with them for 15 years so I am sorta sad to leave haha. All I care about is coverage and if it's as good or better than Sprint, I think I'll be a happy camper!

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I got 24% discount from Sprint so that's why I was at $70. With my small bus plan with T Mob, I'll be at $50.
Thanks for the info, but I don't go over 5GB anyway, so I'll be fine.
As far as tethering on Sprint for free, I had to root my EVO. I like that I don't even have to root or hack T Mob and have hotspot for free and get the GSM without doing all these mods I've been reading about on Sprint so you can try to insert a SIM.
But hey, we all have different needs and you're stoked with Sprint. I was with them for 15 years so I am sorta sad to leave haha. All I care about is coverage and if it's as good or better than Sprint, I think I'll be a happy camper!
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yep i feel ya, used to be with VZW forever because i lived in Rochester, NY basically 4-6 Hours away from NYC. and that was pretty much best at the time up there and most reliable. but we moved to North Carolina and sprint was okay and much cheaper lol

I don't know if there will be any different prices with LTE. I would doubt it because my understanding is that it would be more efficient.
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Sho'nuff75 said:
They still have the $100 rebate. They will also give me a $200 per line credit for switching over to the business plan. So the phone will cost me $460 tax included. I paid $320 for it from Sprint but my plan is $20 more a month which obviously adds up over the years.
I did check the coverage map and there's the rub. I live in Hawaii. Honolulu is great for either service. BUT, I also used to live on Kauai and still have a condo there so I visit often and could move back eventually and the service is 2G there! Yikes. But, I don't see me going back for a couple years at minimum for long term stay so if the service still sucks then, maybe I switch to someone else if I do move back.
Can you explain the free tethering throttle? I heard it's after 5GB which is enough for me. Thanks!
BTW, Thanks for the responses. I returned the Note II to Sprint last night and will likely be joining T Mob today!
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Once you hit your cap, if you have one, they reduce your speed. Having said that, your throttled speed would be most likely faster than Sprint anyway.
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Once you hit your cap, if you have one, they reduce your speed. Having said that, your throttled speed would be most likely faster than Sprint anyway.
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T Mobile throttles your speed at 2g speeds. 2g on T-Mobile is slow. Atleast on 3g with Sprint it's getting better and faster.
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T Mobile throttles your speed at 2g speeds. 2g on T-Mobile is slow. Atleast on 3g with Sprint it's getting better and faster.
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That's all relative. 3G for me with Sprint was, .02 kbps down and about the same down. It's been that way for over a year now.
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Once you hit your cap, if you have one, they reduce your speed. Having said that, your throttled speed would be most likely faster than Sprint anyway.
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I have a cap at 5GB but even when using Sprint for tethering and all that stuff I never even hit 3GB of data. I can pay $5 more if needed and I believe it is unlimited.
I did get a little bit of disappointment just now, because I am doing the business value plan, I don't get the $100 mail in rebate.
I do get $200 though for switching over, but the idea of getting $300 was really nice.

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I have a cap at 5GB but even when using Sprint for tethering and all that stuff I never even hit 3GB of data. I can pay $5 more if needed and I believe it is unlimited.
I did get a little bit of disappointment just now, because I am doing the business value plan, I don't get the $100 mail in rebate.
I do get $200 though for switching over, but the idea of getting $300 was really nice.
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that's hilarious because I've been using 4g WiMAX and 3g constantly on my samsung epic for the last month before I bought the note 2 and I had reached 20 gigs of data
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Leaked info Tmo POST PAID not PREPAID no contract no cap anyday

We will all be seeing a very nice thing march 28th from tmobile... soon thanks to a big mouth rep .
Postpaid 4g no caps on data no "contract" Truly unlimited.
This is like a contract without the contract.
Get a device with out contract just as u would with one .
Pay it off on monthly payments, this is like metro pcs no Data caps, but faster data and pay minimal down toward a new device NO CONTRACT.
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We will all be seeing a very nice thing march 28th from tmobile... soon thanks to a big mouth rep .
Postpaid 4g no caps on data no "contract" Truly unlimited.
This is like a contract without the contract.
Get a device with out contract just as u would with one .
Pay it off on monthly payments, this is like metro pcs no Data caps, but faster data and pay minimal down toward a new device NO CONTRACT.
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Seems like they are starting to implement "merge changes" from their deal with metro.
this...is my BOOM stick!

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Seems like they are starting to implement "merge changes" from their deal with metro.
this...is my BOOM stick!
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This doesn't have anything to do with metro, this has more to do with them trying to pioneer something new. More of a European business model, for people that see the value of it it will be a great thing. Some people still think that getting a phone cheap with a contract is better no matter what though. They rather pay out the ass then save money by buying a phone full price. I for one hope it's insanely successful because if it is not only is it good for tmobile but we might see manufacturers finally compete to have lower cost devices rather than, all these carriers charging an arm and a leg just so they don't lose profit subsidizing handset. The reason I said this doesn't have to do with the metro thing is because tmobile is keeping prepaid around and credit will still be required for you to be trusted with a phone payment plan on postpaid. Tmobile is trying something new and if it catches on then we should see nice growth for tmobile and carriers having to change up there prices and stuff to compete.
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Its kind of like the value plan they have now. That is what I have for over 3 years now. I pay cheap on monthly plan and unlimited everything '5gb' and when ever I update phones I pay a down of like $200 and then $20 per month for the phone till is paid off with no interest rate
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I'm already on post paid unlimited plan with no data cap. The only thing I'm missing from my previous "unlimited" 5 gig plan is data tethering (hotspot feature) but they dont even offer it as an add on for note2
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I'll stick with my current prepaid plan, it's still cheaper and has better coverage. When Tmobile gets better coverage I'll consider it. In my area they are way too spotty. I do believe it's a step in the right direction.
Can you imagine how fast IPhone sales would drop if all the carriers stop subsidizing the phone purchase. I'm sure super Android phones would suffer too.

All prepaid as of 2 months ago is truly unlimited NO CAP after 5gigs , if anyone hasnt noticed this just tether all your devices, run up a gig a day after 5 gigs you'll see that your still pulling 10-16mg downloads depending on coverage.
The post paid will be just like prepaid but they will offer insurance on existing and new handsets same unlimited data NO CAPS even after 5gigs.
And you will be prioritized in the network coverage when the coverage becomes congested, this isn't the same for prepaid customers.
All in all unlimited hspa I call it not really 4g lte speeds but good enough, option to add something like 120 $ down extra to finance a phone into monthly payments and all this with NO Contract
March 28th they say Or so a tmobile corporate rep told me the day I went to reinstate my contract and he said why bother stay on prepaid for a few more weeks and reap the benefits of contract features without a contract!
This is about the best thing tmobile has implemented in some time now.
It's essentially same as if Verizon was to all sudden flick a switch and give everyone back there unlimited data .It's a great move by tmobile, giving back something they once took away.
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To reiterate, I was trying to say this new revision on tmobile data ,is in part like Metro pcs , in which up until recently Metro was the only carrier that gave u true 4g lte for" one set price a month" that's the key one set price..... For new customers, no contract which used to be 10gigs max on contract
Now tmobile has this since they did away with the 5g caps on the prepaid .They also did away with a data cap on contract plans , , essentially they are giving back truly unlimited this would make tmobile and Metro the only two carriers doing so for new customers , unless you are "Grandfathered in " with att or vzw on there UL data.
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I can comfirm this on the $30 plan. After 5gb still no cap. I love this. Truely unlimted 4g for $30.
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lojak29 said:
We will all be seeing a very nice thing march 28th from tmobile... soon thanks to a big mouth rep .
Postpaid 4g no caps on data no "contract" Truly unlimited.
This is like a contract without the contract.
Get a device with out contract just as u would with one .
Pay it off on monthly payments, this is like metro pcs no Data caps, but faster data and pay minimal down toward a new device NO CONTRACT.
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I'll go ahead and confirm this as well. I work for the company. There's going to be a HUGE switch on March 24th to be exact. Trade in programs. No contract plans. Unlimited everything. $50 starts you with unlimited talk and text with 500mb throttled data included already. $20 extra for just truly unlimited. Or $10 for every 2GB, pay per use. You do what you want. If you leave while paying off the device, you just get billed for the device. Family plans are the same way except it's 40 instead of 50 starting out. Add a line is simply $10 then $10 for data.
Huge question everyone is asking is can I move to this plan right away? Yes. You'll still finish your contract though. They won't just let everyone cut their contract. This only applies if you're already on the value plan (monthly installments). If you're a classic/legacy plan, they will charge a migration fee. But I'm pretty sure that'll negate your contract.
This is all leaked info already on the Web, so I'm not really doing anything bad here by disclosing this. Just making it easier for people to understand, I'm super excited about what these plans have to offer and you all should too. With them doubling their coverage this year and rolling out LTE with no contract, it's a great time to be a customer or an employee. If you have questions, ask!
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I can comfirm this on the $30 plan. After 5gb still no cap. I love this. Truely unlimted 4g for $30.
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is this a contract plan or prepaid?

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is this a contract plan or prepaid?
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Prepaid!
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XCrazedxPyroX said:
I'll go ahead and confirm this as well. I work for the company. There's going to be a HUGE switch on March 24th to be exact. Trade in programs. No contract plans. Unlimited everything. $50 starts you with unlimited talk and text with 500mb throttled data included already. $20 extra for just truly unlimited. Or $10 for every 2GB, pay per use. You do what you want. If you leave while paying off the device, you just get billed for the device. Family plans are the same way except it's 40 instead of 50 starting out. Add a line is simply $10 then $10 for data.
Huge question everyone is asking is can I move to this plan right away? Yes. You'll still finish your contract though. They won't just let everyone cut their contract. This only applies if you're already on the value plan (monthly installments). If you're a classic/legacy plan, they will charge a migration fee. But I'm pretty sure that'll negate your contract.
This is all leaked info already on the Web, so I'm not really doing anything bad here by disclosing this. Just making it easier for people to understand, I'm super excited about what these plans have to offer and you all should too. With them doubling their coverage this year and rolling out LTE with no contract, it's a great time to be a customer or an employee. If you have questions, ask!
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My wife and I are on the 1000 minute family plan. Switching to this new plan would be a price jump for us. we both have 2 GB data plans. I guessing the soft cap on those won't go anywhere unless we change plans right? Also, if I want to get a unlimited data plan but keep my current plan will I need to make that move now? would I be forced to switch plans to get it after the 24th?

Poke_N_PDA said:
My wife and I are on the 1000 minute family plan. Switching to this new plan would be a price jump for us. we both have 2 GB data plans. I guessing the soft cap on those won't go anywhere unless we change plans right? Also, if I want to get a unlimited data plan but keep my current plan will I need to make that move now? would I be forced to switch plans to get it after the 24th?
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You aren't forced to make ANY switches. You can keep your plan. But it's considered grandfathered as of the 24th. It should be cheaper. The plans aren't solid, but they're making them the cheapest they've ever been ever. Things are still up in the air and not definite.
If you decide to upgrade to unlimited data, you shouldn't have to change plans just to change your data package.
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XCrazedxPyroX said:
I'll go ahead and confirm this as well. I work for the company. There's going to be a HUGE switch on March 24th to be exact. Trade in programs. No contract plans. Unlimited everything. $50 starts you with unlimited talk and text with 500mb throttled data included already. $20 extra for just truly unlimited. Or $10 for every 2GB, pay per use. You do what you want. If you leave while paying off the device, you just get billed for the device. Family plans are the same way except it's 40 instead of 50 starting out. Add a line is simply $10 then $10 for data.
Huge question everyone is asking is can I move to this plan right away? Yes. You'll still finish your contract though. They won't just let everyone cut their contract. This only applies if you're already on the value plan (monthly installments). If you're a classic/legacy plan, they will charge a migration fee. But I'm pretty sure that'll negate your contract.
This is all leaked info already on the Web, so I'm not really doing anything bad here by disclosing this. Just making it easier for people to understand, I'm super excited about what these plans have to offer and you all should too. With them doubling their coverage this year and rolling out LTE with no contract, it's a great time to be a customer or an employee. If you have questions, ask!
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Employee here! I second this! Truuue!
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so whats the best bet for me?
i pay $124 a month for
unlimited text/mms and 1000 shared minutes between 2 phones.
i'd like to cut my contracts and separate the phones. but my contract isn't up for two years.
what's my best plan of action.
also note - that i only get $124 because of my 15% educator discount or else i'd be paying somewhere
along the $180 mark for the above plan.

Amen for the Lte can anyone confirm that with the lte rollout we will see better coverage in dead zones , lte on new towers? I only ask cause it is spotty in many areas .Hoping the lte band will give better reception.
Any word on lte speed comparisons to the other two carriers ?
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You'll essentially be paying 70 per line for truly unlimited data txt calla so 140 $ .I'd say for the extra 16 $ its worth it .No hassle no contract still get insured on phones a lot of upside to the move .
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Amen for the Lte can anyone confirm that with the lte rollout we will see better coverage in dead zones , lte on new towers? I only ask cause it is spotty in many areas .Hoping the lte band will give better reception.
Any word on lte speed comparisons to the other two carriers ?
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Well, right now in areas where they are preping LTE (like mine in OKC) HSPA+ has gotten a lot slower. If I have the 1900 Mhz refarm, it is fine, but otherwise it is down to 3-5 mb/s. I know that T-Mobile has AWS 1700/2100 in two groups in OKC. A 2x10 and a 2x5. My guess is that they moved the HSPA+ from 2x10 to 2x5 so the LTE can be on the 2x10. So right now they would be in testing on it and gradually hitting the 1900 refarm. Eventually, I think the goal is for most HSPA+ to be on 1900 with LTE on the AWS 1700/2100.
Getting back to your question and my point, I think LTE will improve existing coverage slightly as I think it does offer a little better transmission over HSPA+ at the same frequency. However, unless they roll it out in more towers/areas, it won't have a drastic improvement. The other possibilities is that pepping for it might be hurting your speeds as they have to free up space on the AWS 1700/2100 for the LTE. So that might be part of the problem for you.