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[update2] T-Mobile has no love for the Galaxy Nexus users,but I finally beat the man

[I win after all after a call to retention][see further down for new developments] Each month I get my data throttled, I have to spend an hour or so on the phone until they'll open a service request ticket for some upper level honcho to press a button and clear up the problem in 5 minutes.
This time I upgraded my data plan to 10GB, but the throttle would not release. After the hour of my dealing with script following drones, a higher level support tech asked me what kind of phone I had. When I replied Galaxy Nexus, she gleefully replied that "our contract with you states we don't have to support 3G for you since you didn't buy one of our [crappy over priced phones] from us. In fact, I'm supposed to disable your 3G service. Even if you have a iPhone 4S." (Um... WHAT? iPhone? Now you're just trying to insult me.)
Just when I thought all hope was lost, my mobile muse rescued me with divine inspiration. "Oh really?" I smirked, "I just stuck my SIM card in my wife's T-Mobile Sensation™ and I'm still getting throttled. Can you support me now, biatch?"*
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"Why yes sir, I'll be happy to open up that ticket right away... Let us know when service is actually restored and we'll comp you for the throttled coverage."
LAWYERED!
* DISCLAIMER: I did not actually say biatch

Lol. Its in a sensation *****! U ever get it fixed?
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That's awesome. 5 cool points for using "lawyered".
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stumpyz9 said:
Lol. Its in a sensation *****! U ever get it fixed?
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I got the usual, "Your service request will be processed within the next 3 business days" reply. Apparently when I upgraded, they failed to remove the 5GB red flag on my account. Generally, my service requests go through the first business day. As I called on Saturday, I expect they'll get to it today... At least that's what usually happens.
Incidentally, they let me upgrade to 10GB for $40/month for three months, and threw in T-Mobile hot spots (whatever those are). It took me three phone calls of hemming and hawing before I got offered this, but it's there.

Nice superior intellect overcomes corporate bull crap I love it

Tmobile customer service might not be stellar but it's usually better than most other carriers.
Don't confuse the poor customer service reps with red flags like I'm using a device not sold/supported by Tmobile.
Just tell them you're using a phone that they sell/support and keep the distractions to a minimum.

This isn't a T-Mobile problem, its more of a problem with American carriers in general. They're wary to have to do anything involving a device they "don't support". Its unfortunate but kinda how it is.
Just keep on doing your thing. May I suggest going prepaid? You won't get good CS with an unlocked phone anyway, might as well not pay for it.

How do you know when you’re being throttled? I have their 5GB plan, but never use that much.

BinkXDA said:
How do you know when you’re being throttled? I have their 5GB plan, but never use that much.
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When you hit 5GB, you'll receive a pop up and/or SMS telling you you're being throttled for the rest of the period.
Your data speeds will also reduce to about that of EDGE, topping out at about .5mbps down / up. The icon in your status bar will still say 3G or H and you'll keep low ping times, but the speeds will be reduced.

I got sick of T-Mo and switched to StraightTalk prepaid. $45 per month for unlimited everything and I have yet to be throttled.
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jlczl said:
I got sick of T-Mo and switched to StraightTalk prepaid. $45 per month for unlimited everything and I have yet to be throttled.
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That's because Straight Talk doesn't throttle. They just cancel your service lol. And they do it a lot sooner than 5GB.
I agree Straight Talk is a great deal, but it's not the same as T-Mo when it comes to data. T-Mo is 100% up-front about when they will throttle you, and they'll never cut your data off or charge overages.

martonikaj said:
When you hit 5GB, you'll receive a pop up and/or SMS telling you you're being throttled for the rest of the period.
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Thanks. I didn't realize they'd actually notify you.

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Thanks. I didn't realize they'd actually notify you.
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Yep. In about 15 months as a T-Mobile customer I've only gone over 5gb maybe 2-3 times, but only actually been throttled once. That one time I was throttled, I was notified instantly.

martonikaj said:
This isn't a T-Mobile problem, its more of a problem with American carriers in general. They're wary to have to do anything involving a device they "don't support". Its unfortunate but kinda how it is.
Just keep on doing your thing. May I suggest going prepaid? You won't get good CS with an unlocked phone anyway, might as well not pay for it.
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Yeah i don't understand this either. They are so worried about getting you to get one of "their" phones. Even if your not using their phone, your still paying for their service. You buy a phone from them, they get a few hundred in profit one time. But if they provide good service, they don't need to rely on selling you a phone because they'll be making money on the service they're selling you. I guess the carriers forget that they are providing a service, it doesn't matter what you use the service on they should support it.
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Funny I had the complete opposite happen to me I called T-Mobile about slow data issue when I was in Las Vegas two weeks ago. The tech guy I talked to was real helpful and knew the GNex and was more than happy to help me. His biggest worry was that I called from my GNex and that if for some reason we would get cut off. But everyone has different outcomes when dealing with customer service. I will say that T-Mobile is light years ahead of Sprint, they just suck.
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keith.mcintyre26 said:
That's awesome. 5 cool points for using "lawyered".
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Lol hey myspace guy
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So I'm still throttled. I called back today and they now say that no matter what, they cannot lift the throttle until the end of the billing cycle. They WERE, of course, happy to take my money to backdate a data plan increase, however. How sleazy.
I call this utter and complete bull****. As a programmer and dba, I refuse to believe it's impossible to lift a throttle before the end of the cycle.
I'm now being held hostage to creeping data by my contract.
Screw you, T-Mobile.
Time to figure out my exit strategy.

Call back and ask to talk to accounts and billing so you can cancel
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tanman1975 said:
So I'm still throttled. I called back today and they now say that no matter what, they cannot lift the throttle until the end of the billing cycle. They WERE, of course, happy to take my money to backdate a data plan increase, however. How sleazy.
I call this utter and complete bull****. As a programmer and dba, I refuse to believe it's impossible to lift a throttle before the end of the cycle.
I'm now being held hostage to creeping data by my contract.
Screw you, T-Mobile.
Time to figure out my exit strategy.
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I know exactly how you feel ..this happen to me last month ..I got throttled last month at 5 gigs ..so next day I call upgrade to the ten ..told me within two hours my data would be back to normal speeds..one day later still slow as hell ..anyways I call tech ..they ask " what phone you have " I say "gn" they say the can't do tickets for that ..so I put my sim in a sensation 4g and a T-Mobile vibrant ..still slow ..long story short I had to wait till my billing cycle over to get my speeds back..hang in there man ...
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tanman1975 said:
So I'm still throttled. I called back today and they now say that no matter what, they cannot lift the throttle until the end of the billing cycle. They WERE, of course, happy to take my money to backdate a data plan increase, however. How sleazy.
I call this utter and complete bull****. As a programmer and dba, I refuse to believe it's impossible to lift a throttle before the end of the cycle.
I'm now being held hostage to creeping data by my contract.
Screw you, T-Mobile.
Time to figure out my exit strategy.
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It is definitely BS. They did it for me when I upgraded to the 5GB plan.

Is it worth staying with Sprint?

I don't use unlimited data anymore. Ever since I got a home wifi router, I use less than 200MB data a month.
I pay $75 a month for the cheapest, employer discounted plan with Sprint.
It seems like ATT would offer $40 (cheapest phone) + $20 (300MB data) - employer discount (I don't know how much). So, I'd be paying a much lower monthly charge with ATT.
Or so it seems. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Plus, I'll be getting One X (s4) just after it was released, enjoying a new gen phone.
Your thoughts?

Sounds like a no brainer.
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Sounds like the smarter move to just go with ATT. You'd save a few bucks, which add up over time. I'd do it if you don't need/use the unlimited data.

I think it makes sense for you to switch if your cancellation with Sprint isn't too painful. If there are multiple phones on the account, multiply the cancellation fees.

Im a data holic but if you really dont use a lot of data then its a no brainer
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Don't forget texting. That's an additional 20 or 30, I can't remember, unless you use Google voice
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At&t is 20 for unlimited text on a single plan and 30 on a family plan.
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I say go to att
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nabbed said:
I don't use unlimited data anymore. Ever since I got a home wifi router, I use less than 200MB data a month.
I pay $75 a month for the cheapest, employer discounted plan with Sprint.
It seems like ATT would offer $40 (cheapest phone) + $20 (300MB data) - employer discount (I don't know how much). So, I'd be paying a much lower monthly charge with ATT.
Or so it seems. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Plus, I'll be getting One X (s4) just after it was released, enjoying a new gen phone.
Your thoughts?
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20 for 300mb of data? That's highway robbery. I hope you don't want to send or receive texts because that's another charge. ATT nickle and dime their customers to death. If you want cheap, and it's available, go with a prepay account or go with metropcs. From your explanation, it doesn't look like you're going to get insurance for your phone. You say you'll be getting a one x when you go there yet you don't want to use data on the network. What's the use of getting one of the top of the line phones with LTE when you want to only get the 300mb data per month option? To me, that doesn't make much sense. I'm assuming you have a e4gt now. Why don't you get a free basic phone from ATT and use your e4gt on wifi only? You can save another 20 bucks by not getting data on a free phone. I don't care what you do, that's your decision. Some people have left only to find out the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence.

Also how is call service? My friend gets all data no phone. And even data is comparable to everyone else.

When I had att my calls would drop in the same spots sprint calls would not even in between cities
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I was with att for 8 years and refuse to go back. Customer service is horrible and I always had dropped calls. Plus they nickel and dime you for everything they can.
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Just remember the AT&T One X has a locked down bootloader. I worked for AT&T as a Field Technician for several years. I had to constantly use my personal phone because of AT&T's awful network.
Look into T-Mobile if you really need to change. They should save you some money.
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Also, I currently have a BB through AT&T for work and the signal is so spotty I just use Exchange on my E4GT. My boss has an iPhone that constantly drops calls.
As far as T-mo goes, I had them for 8 years in KC and dropped 2 calls the whole time. Maybe look at an unlocked GNex for 399 and go with one of their pre-paid plans.

newalker91 said:
In all honesty, every US carrier sucks. I've used and sold every major post-paid carrier except US Cellular (although I've yet to hear anything good about them).
AT&T doesn't need you, and they'll make sure you know that when coming to them with problems. Their coverage is shoddy, the network goes down frequently and their bills are loaded with unexplainable fees and charges.
Verizon has decent coverage but they suffer from network congestion. Their phones are priced way too high and they lack services for the price paid. They also look for any and every reason to charge you additional fees or kick you out with a termination fee.
T-Mobile has terrible coverage and an awful call/text network (need to send texts a dozen times to go through). Their prices are great and their customer service is okay. Decent selection of phones. Great choice for someone who doesn't text, use a lot of data or travel.
Sprint has pretty good coverage, but data speeds are pretty bad. Even corporate management makes jokes on a daily basis about it. They originally had fantastic plan pricing, but are slowly getting more and more like big red by adding on fees, tweaking discounts to rake in more cash and subtly changing the ToS to impose artificial limits on the term "unlimited". I firmly believe that the only reason Sprint's customer service was rated #1 is a 50/50 split between customer care lying to the customers and store reps guilt tripping customers into giving only perfect scores on surveys.
Seeing as Boost and Virgin will be picking up Sprint's WiMax network, I would see no reason to stay with Sprint were my service actually costing me anything. Funny that my phone is free yet I still catch myself thinking up ways to weasel out of my contract.
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I've rarely done surveys. I block their phone number when they call too. I love when my gf is a smart ass towards them. Csr: Can you say I helped you resolve your issue today? Her: I don't know, I'll have to wait and see if it works now. I'll sometimes feel like being a troll and score them the lowest marks.

Sprint 3g in my area is some short not even 3g !
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I suppose all the carriers are like that. In some places they have good or acceptable service, and other places its horrible.

oscarthegrouch said:
I've rarely done surveys. I block their phone number when they call too. I love when my gf is a smart ass towards them. Csr: Can you say I helped you resolve your issue today? Her: I don't know, I'll have to wait and see if it works now. I'll sometimes feel like being a troll and score them the lowest marks.
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Those survey probably help determine how much a kid with a bunch of student debt gets paid. Wtg, ****. Really funny.
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Why are you even considering that change? Go to boost mobile. $50 period. All unlimited, no contract.
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oscarthegrouch said:
20 for 300mb of data? That's highway robbery.
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More like....airwave robbery. YEEEEAAAAHHHH.
But seriously, if you aren't taking full advantage of the unlimited data and the competitors network in your area is better, I would definitely switch. Personally, my data speeds are so terrible I don't even bother using my phone off of Wifi. Yet my girlfriends AT&T SGS2 hauls ass pretty much everywhere she goes.

newalker91 said:
I firmly believe that the only reason Sprint's customer service was rated #1 is a 50/50 split between customer care lying to the customers and store reps guilt tripping customers into giving only perfect scores on surveys.
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I said this all the time to my SAR, when he started being a **** about CSAT averages. It is easy to brag about it, when you are padding and stuffing the stats. It is such a snake oil salesman tactic, and I encouraged my customers to answer honestly. I will never beg for a five.
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Are we dumb or is Sprint very smart

As I continue to struggle with poor 3g service on my SIII in the (614) area a thought came to mind " WE ARE PAYING FOR PREMIUM DATA" and we are getting 3g service..mmmmm
And yes I know what you are saying " we knew from the beginning that the SIII only had 3g for now" BUT WE ARE PAYING FOR PREMIUM DATA! and yet we still bought it. So should Sprint issue a small credit our way? I THINK SO...won't happened but I THINK SO..

We are dumb lol unless you got lte coming to your city soon!

xBryan said:
We are dumb lol unless you got lte coming to your city soon!
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Not any time soon for me. So yes.. I'm dumb.

This is why I left Sprint and we to t mobile. Having a much better experience so far
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Sprint doesn't even provide 3g data. Constantly getting less than 0.5mbps is awful, especially in a large city like DC

was telling a co-worker thursday that he should call & see if they will wave it for him. i have been getting the $10 credited back on my bill since they started this with the evo i believe. worth a try.

mankoorb said:
was telling a co-worker thursday that he should call & see if they will wave it for him. i have been getting the $10 credited back on my bill since they started this with the evo i believe. worth a try.
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Nice I'm trying that tomorrow. Thanks

Your dumb. I just left sprint and am paying $45 a month with no contract getting 4 mb down when I could barely get half a meg download in this area with sprint. With unlimited minutes and text gsm style with straight talk. You know what I'm still not happy. Gonna get a phone that supports both t-mobile and at&t 4g so I always have a choice. Let sprint worry about selling 20 billion dollars worth of iPhones while I get a better deal with my service.
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r3a1ist said:
Your dumb. I just left sprint and am paying $45 a month with no contract getting 4 mb down when I could barely get half a meg download in this area with sprint. With unlimited minutes and text gsm style with straight talk. You know what I'm still not happy. Gonna get a phone that supports both t-mobile and at&t 4g so I always have a choice. Let sprint worry about selling 20 billion dollars worth of iPhones while I get a better deal with my service.
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Right behind you. Sprint is ripping people off. I will be switching to verizon hopefully as soon as someone confirms the S3 world capabilities with a sim swap. I pay way too much to not be use my data
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Man that sucks for you guys, I left sprint for slow service too, I like their phone and customer service but their network is too slow
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kryptoniteman said:
Right behind you. Sprint is ripping people off. I will be switching to verizon hopefully as soon as someone confirms the S3 world capabilities with a sim swap. I pay way too much to not be use my data
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I just left Verizon after several years of service. Their ceo is currently insane and you will pay out of the ass. Go tmobile.
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I was dumb for two years on Sprint after the premium data thing, getting an Evo 4G and Evo 3D, neither of which had 4G WiMax in my area, and slow ass 3G speeds of about 1mbit on a good day.
I have an HTC Thunderbolt on VZW at work and I have LTE in my city. Getting upwards of 20mbit down on that, and 2mbit+ on 3G, and we get 22% discount for personal lines from my job for VZW...so yeah...the day my GS3 comes in for VZW, I'll be dropping Sprint (finally). I've had it with all these empty promises. I'll pay an extra couple bucks a month for good service and limit 5GB data.
I considered TMobile and AT&T but neither of them have 4G here. I don't think they even have fauxG.

kryptoniteman said:
Right behind you. Sprint is ripping people off. I will be switching to verizon hopefully as soon as someone confirms the S3 world capabilities with a sim swap. I pay way too much to not be use my data
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Yep,that's why i just switched to Verizon!!! Tired of sprints Bullsh*t. Now i will have one of the best phones on one of the best 4G networks, and its only $30.00 more per month about $1.15 cent extra per day, Easy decision for me!!! Unlimited talk, text, 4GB of data, and free Mobile Hot spot, $110.00 with insurance for $6.99 with $99.00 deductible $116.00... Sprint insurance is crazy high... Verizon just changed their plans again, Now all plans are called (shared plans) even if you have just one line like me.
Shared Plan(s) Monthly Account Access
Share Everything Unlimited Talk, Text & 4GB $70.00
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Share Everything Unlimited Talk, Text & 4GB
Monthly Line Access $40.00
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EMAIL TRIGGER ALP $0
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TXT MSG W PER MSG CHARGES
MOBILE HOT SPOT TRIGGER $0
BASIC VOICE MAIL - $0
TEXT MESSAGING
DYNAMIC-PRIVATE IP
TEC ASURION $6.99
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RTR FOR ALP
4G APPLICATION ACCESS
4G INTERNET ACCESS
VERIZON APPS $0
EMAIL ACCESS PDA $0
SDM REMOTE QUERY ENABLED
4G PROVISIONING $0
STREAMLINED BILLING - $0
USA ONLY NO ROAM - $0
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OTA SOFTWAREUPDATE-$0.00
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we are dumb my friend

Its too bad that Boost mobile has such poor coverage and the same goes for the Walmart brand and Virgin so my hope is that Boost gets their act together and give them a try. At&t, T-mobile and Verizon are over priced so our options are few.

How you figure T mobile is over price? Lol anyway while people say T mobile aren't a real 4g speed Company. I'm very satisfied with the speeds I get! Feel bad for you guys. 1mb down is so my g1 days
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It's cheap, unlimited, and fast enough for most things. 4G is coming to my area in the next couple of months. For me, there isn't a better option.

cwalker29 said:
How you figure T mobile is over price? Lol anyway while people say T mobile aren't a real 4g speed Company. I'm very satisfied with the speeds I get! Feel bad for you guys. 1mb down is so my g1 days
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I feel I may have offended you with my T-Mobile is too expensive comment and I'm sorry for that but THEY ARE!! $125.00 for so called unlimited up to 10gigs for one line??? Come on!!

I left Sprint a month ago after 4 years and came to AT&T. Never been happier
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Looks like TMo has a good deal right now with unlimited minutes & text with 5GB data for $95/mo. The main problem I have with TMo though is that they throttle you after your cap. I'd rather be charged $10 and continue to dl at ridiculous speeds.

Some say dish or Sprint might try to take over tmobile

http://www.tmonews.com/2013/07/investor-sees-t-mobile-as-takeover-target-for-dish-network-sprint/
I honestly don't want either to take over. But if I had to choose, I'd choose dish.
With me just coming from Sprint I have this to say
You would have to shoot me in the face to get me to ever give another penny to Sprint. Their 3g data speeds are horrific in most places (even in places that have network vision dine, it's just "meh" speed, still sub par) I could never get above a 20 kb/s download rate. Not to mention how much more expensive they are with their plans (when I was with then, I had the cheapest available, 450 min and unlimited everything else for 69.99 a month.) Back in the day, Sprint could compete, but they let their towers become dated and do to little to late when they finally do decide to do something about it. Not to mention hour they boned their wimax phone buyers.
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Rather it be Dish than Sprint. Had a 4g phone since wimax came out... then LTE.... Still no 4g in Savannah. I said goodbye to them when the S4 came out and switched to tmo. Got them to cancel the early termination fee because of the past few years of bad service in the entire Southeast area of GA and SC. Took a week of convincing.
Then Tmo: It was instant "oh this is what 4g is like!" Roommate is still getting 10-100 KILObytes on Sprint, while I'm getting 15-26mb on Tmo. Suck it Sprint.
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You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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Skipjacks said:
You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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This.
And with what money is Sprint buying anyone, TMo isn't exactly Virgin Mobile.

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You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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Lol yes. Very well aware. Different tech. It's just the thought of being a customer of a Sprint owned anything. Seeing them fail so much.
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Thats hillarious. Sprint DOES NOT have the money to take over a network that is triple in size to the one they already have. I also don't see how a tv company wants a cell phone network. I think its a load of garbage. Yes i read the link in the OP. T-Mobile is doing better than a lot of its competition, i seriously don't see Sprint "taking them over". Thats a laughing joke lol. Sprint sucks beyond sucking xD

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You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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yes but if sprint takes over, they will probably let the towers become dated like they did their own and we wont see these speeds for long

Seems to me that AT&T tried this not too long ago. The result? Fed Govt said "Nope, not going to happen" AT&T got pissy and walked away.. but not before paying T-Mo a pretty sizeable chunk of cash because the merger didn't go through.
Don't see anyone picking up T-Mo in the near future.

ronin4740 said:
Seems to me that AT&T tried this not too long ago. The result? Fed Govt said "Nope, not going to happen" AT&T got pissy and walked away.. but not before paying T-Mo a pretty sizeable chunk of cash because the merger didn't go through.
Don't see anyone picking up T-Mo in the near future.
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Exactly. Don't know hat anything has changed either for the Fed to rule otherwise.
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I think this has been rumored for a while and I don't think it will ever happen. T-mobile's patent company, Deutsche Telekom, is a massive company and I don't think they would let tmo go.
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Dish and sprint don't have that kind of money to take over tmobile ...
>O/C GalaxyGS4<

yeah as it was said AT&T tried to buy them out and the US government put a big red flag in that. people (such as myself) are leaving sprint to go with tmo because of the better service and price. plus, not sure if youve seen/heard the commercials but AT&T are trying to stay afloat by copying tmo's not contract deals... oh and to the guy who said something about a tv company buying a cell company.... even though verizon started as a phone company im fairly certain that their tv/internet service is pretty amazing.

TheAtheistOtaku said:
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/07/investor-sees-t-mobile-as-takeover-target-for-dish-network-sprint/
I honestly don't want either to take over. But if I had to choose, I'd choose dish.
With me just coming from Sprint I have this to say
You would have to shoot me in the face to get me to ever give another penny to Sprint. Their 3g data speeds are horrific in most places (even in places that have network vision dine, it's just "meh" speed, still sub par) I could never get above a 20 kb/s download rate. Not to mention how much more expensive they are with their plans (when I was with then, I had the cheapest available, 450 min and unlimited everything else for 69.99 a month.) Back in the day, Sprint could compete, but they let their towers become dated and do to little to late when they finally do decide to do something about it. Not to mention hour they boned their wimax phone buyers.
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You couldn't be more correct about sprint speeds theyve bought people with there cheap lets get 10 people on a line call it a family plan... thats Soooo affordable crap..... and then throw you some 30 kb dload speeds...
Sprint should have went under along tine ago, even metro is better than them
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Damn, other carriers be jelly.
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So is there any actual factual information proving all these points being mentioned. I mean unless anyone here is a top corporate executive or has a mole in the company?
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On the other hand Tmo can take over Sprint and put that company out of business once and for all and put their customers out of their misery.

Sprint will be a lot better in a year. They have cash now because of Softbank. I was surprised they came out with the plans they did just recently but hopefully they lower them so that should help all of us.

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Sprint will be a lot better in a year. They have cash now because of Softbank. I was surprised they came out with the plans they did just recently but hopefully they lower them so that should help all of us.
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Sprint will never have good towers. They are trash. They've had two years to improve since I've left them. My cousin still has them. They suck. They aren't going anywhere.
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I'd have little problem with Dish, it could end up benefiting both sides. Still, T-Mobile stands to benefit less from a takeover now than they would have in the past. On the upswing as a carrier, or so it seems.

US wants 4 "major" carriers so unlikely tmo and sprint would merge anymore than tmo and at&t merger was approved by feds.
As for Dish (puke) they can't hardly run tv without being aluminum siding/used car salesmen. They'd be worse than the old nextel (which is where sprint got 95% of their terrible rape, pillage and burn customer service habits).
Full disclosure: was sprint customer almost 10 years (yes im a suicidal masochist lol) before givi g up in disgust & going to att for 3 and now on tmo.
TBH, only went with tmo because of pretty seamless wifi calling (no carrier signal works worth a dam at my house)
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Reception near pittsburgh pa

Is anyone on here from or near pittsburgh pa if so how is the 4g speeds and coverage I'm asking because I might switch from verizon but I dont want to get it if there is bad coverage or no 4g
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Check the t-mobile website for the network coverage..
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Check the t-mobile website for the network coverage..
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Okay thank you
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I'm in Pittsburgh specifically North Versailles and my speeds are pretty good. I have a constant LTE signal pretty much any where I go around town and the burbs.
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I was going to go with tmobile but with the new plan you have to pay like 200 down then $20 a month for 24 months it makes it almost the same as verizon it kinda sucks cause I was looking forward to unlimited data
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I was going to go with tmobile but with the new plan you have to pay like 200 down then $20 a month for 24 months it makes it almost the same as verizon it kinda sucks cause I was looking forward to unlimited data
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That's not new, it's been that way for 2 years. It's not a bad deal, Verizon doesn't offer unlimited data anymore. I have two lines with t mobile one with an EIP on the Jump program and 500 mb of data, the other line with unlimited everything plus insurance averages $160 a month after taxes. I priced Verizon and for everything unlimited it's a lot more.
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That's not new, it's been that way for 2 years. It's not a bad deal, Verizon doesn't offer unlimited data anymore. I have two lines with t mobile one with an EIP on the Jump program and 500 mb of data, the other line with unlimited everything plus insurance averages $160 a month after taxes. I priced Verizon and for everything unlimited it's a lot more.
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I have 3 phones on verizon we share 8gb of data and have unlimited talk&text I pay 220 a month
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Okay but you mentioned unlimited data, Verizon doesn't have unlimited data anymore, that's my point. Verizon CS is horrible, you wait two years to upgrade and they won't upgrade you early. I have been with AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon, horrid customer service, I switched to T Mobile two years ago and could not be happier. To each their own. If I took off unlimited data my bill would be $150 a month.
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I have 3 phones on verizon we share 8gb of data and have unlimited talk&text I pay 220 a month
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My monthly bill for 2 phones on their truly unlimited plan is only 130 after taxes. Thats counting eip on my note 2. Wifes lg is paid off. Was 140 then. If you ask me.... no matter how you look at it , 60/month ( not counting eip ) is a hell of a lot cheaper than anywhere else.
Now lets do tmobiles math
60/ month for 24 months = $1440
200 down + 480 (20/month for 24 months)= 680
Over 2 years you will have spent $2120
For verizon, not even counting the initial cost of the phone pre-subsidizing ( 300 ), you already spent more lol.
Verizon= $99/month
$99*24= 2376 + 299 for the note2 = $2675
Mind you, tmobile charges 680 outright and verizon charges 699 off contract for the note 2. You can clearly see they get much more money from you and give you less.
Edit. Last I checked verizons unlimited plan was 99. I cant seem to find anything on their website comparable. Going by my usage on tmobile and their (verizons) family share plan..... id be at the 40gb shared plan....ouch! Its even more ! $300/ month for 2 lines unlimited talk/text and 40gb ( 20gb each if split evenly ). Thank god I have Tmobile!
Id chew through 8gb of data alone in a few days just on netflix. My son watches while we are out of the house. Thats not counting my wife who skype video calls her family everyday overseas. How can you survive on only 8?
I even use wifi while im at home and at work too. When I dont, I can hit 60+gb alone! Keep in mind, each rom download is 1gb, 1 netflix movie is 1gb, and pandora / slacker / youtube add up fast too. Heck 1 movie a day puts you at 30gb / month + lol. I got hooked watching Merlin on netflix. That was 86 episodes and I finished it in 2 weeks. I could only imagine how much data id have used if I weren't on my homes fiber line.
Why buy a phone like this if you are limited in how / when you can use it?
Oh and I have LTE at work and pretty much everywhere when I'm out of the house. Can't beat it!
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I would love to switch to tmobile but I cant see only saving a few bucks to switch to less coverage ....when I looked originally at tmobile I figures about 160 for all three of us then I found out you have to pay about 200 and 20 bucks a month for each sevice which puts it at about 210 I cant see myself switching to save 10 dollars now if it was the 160 a month for all three I would have switched yesterday like I wanted to
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My monthly bill for 2 phones on their truly unlimited plan is only 130 after taxes. Thats counting eip on my note 2. Wifes lg is paid off. Was 140 then. If you ask me.... no matter how you look at it , 60/month ( not counting eip ) is a hell of a lot cheaper than anywhere else.
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Do you have any insurance on your phones? Are you on post paid or pre paid?
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I did have their php protection but recently had a bad experience with asurion. I dropped it on both lines out of principle. She had her phone for 2 years, never used insurance once. I had it for 2 on my galaxy s2..... never used it. 2 years of 7.99/month on 2 lines = 383.92 mind you.The first week i had my note2, i dropped it and broke the screen. Paid the deductible, sent in the phone, and figured all was well. I didnt save any of the tracking numbers they gave me. Well they couldnt find the phone. Billed me another 300 .... wtf. Luckily Tmobile worked with me through it and helped alleviate the $300 charge after weeks of fighting it. It was a "we found it". Oh wait we didnt ". Oh wait we did find the imei in our warehouse. Oh wait again..... we didnt" kind of scenario. Next phones will get a squaretrade warranty methinks.
Had I said I lost it like everyone else would have, they wouldnt have gotten it back anyway. Nope.... im honest... see where it got me?
Anyway my plan breakdown is like this
2x family plan =79.99 /month
2x unlimited data =40 /month
Eip = 20/month
Thats 140+tax but I also get a small discount which knocks about 15-20 off my bill.
Granted im in a major city (Baltimore MD ) and even cricket wireless gets decent coverage. Regardless, I was paying over 220/month for 2 lines on AT&T. That was without unlimited data.
Cricket was 50/ month and tmobile was 60....wasnt a hard choice knowing tmobile had 4g and was getting lte at the time lol
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I did have their php protection but recently had a bad experience with asurion. I dropped it on both lines. My plan breakdown is like this
2x family plan =79.99 /month
2x unlimited data =40 /month
Eip = 20/month
Thats 140+tax but I also get a small diacount which knocks about 15 off my bill.
Granted im in a major city (Baltimore MD ) and even cricket wireless gets decent coverage. Regardless, I was paying over 220/month for 2 lines on AT&T. That was without unlimited data.
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Thanks, I have the same plan but enrolled in Jump on the EIP line because it's cheaper than the insurance alone. What happened with Asurion?
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Rhiannon224 said:
Thanks, I have the same plan but enrolled in Jump on the EIP line because it's cheaper than the insurance alone. What happened with Asurion?
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I edited my post with a whole story lol. Lets just say ill never use asurion again. Tmobile basically ate the 300 for me. Excellent customer service. They treated me better than at&t ever did... and I was with them there way back when they were cellular 1, then Cingular Wireless. 15yrs or so.
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I edited my post with a whole story lol. Lets just say ill never use asurion again. Tmobile basically ate the 300 for me. Excellent customer service. They treated me better than at&t ever did... and I was with them there way back when they were cellular 1, then Cingular Wireless. 15yrs or so.
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Thanks, I have used Asurion before when I was on Nextel, I always said that I lost the phone for that exact reason.
T Mobile customer service is outstanding, when I switched from AT&T and had a $200 etf, I told T Mobile and they gave me a bill credit of $120. I wasn't asking them for anything I was switching my mom over from Sprint and mentioned the ETF from AT&T and they just gave me a credit. I wasn't happy with the HTC Sensations I had purchased and they upgraded me 6 months early and again gave me a $120 credit. Outstanding customer service!
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Thanks, I have used Asurion before when I was on Nextel, I always said that I lost the phone for that exact reason.
T Mobile customer service is outstanding, when I switched from AT&T and had a $200 etf, I told T Mobile and they gave me a bill credit of $120. I wasn't asking them for anything I was switching my mom over from Sprint and mentioned the ETF from AT&T and they just gave me a credit. I wasn't happy with the HTC Sensations I had purchased and they upgraded me 6 months early and again gave me a $120 credit. Outstanding customer service!
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Thats just awesome! Most times I call them, I reach the customer service center in the Philippines.... They are always so pleasant
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I would love to switch to tmobile but I cant see only saving a few bucks to switch to less coverage ....when I looked originally at tmobile I figures about 160 for all three of us then I found out you have to pay about 200 and 20 bucks a month for each sevice which puts it at about 210 I cant see myself switching to save 10 dollars now if it was the 160 a month for all three I would have switched yesterday like I wanted to
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You forget that after the phone is payed for your bill will reflect that. With verizon you keep paying for the phone after you payed it off because it is not a separate line item on the bill.
I have both verizon and t-mobile. When I am in a city I use strictly t-mobile, unlimited (real unlimited) data is a hard thing to beat. The t-mobile LTE speeds aren't bad, I can live with them. Verizon LTE speed is just insanely fast.
I drive all over the country for work. I tried using just t-mobile, but once you get outside of a major city you are looking at edge networks at best on data, if at all. I have to use google maps, and pre-caching a journey from New Jersey to California is just not happening.
When t-mobile couldn't cut it on the dark spots between city lights, I got verizon. I will say I was 4G when I drove from New Jersey to California, LTE even almost the whole way.
If you are in a place where you will tend to stay there, and it is a city with 4G/LTE on T-mobile, they are fantastic. Just don't go to nowhere, usa and expect service.
My verizon bill of $110 versus my t-mobile bill of $70-something.
If I had to pick one or the other, i'd choose t-mobile because of the unlimited data, and then figure something else out for getting navigation off-network outside of major cities. My minimum network data is something north of 12 gigs a month and I can't afford buying it from verizon by the megabyte.

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You forget that after the phone is payed for your bill will reflect that. With verizon you keep paying for the phone after you payed it off because it is not a separate line item on the bill.
I have both verizon and t-mobile. When I am in a city I use strictly t-mobile, unlimited (real unlimited) data is a hard thing to beat. The t-mobile LTE speeds aren't bad, I can live with them. Verizon LTE speed is just insanely fast.
I drive all over the country for work. I tried using just t-mobile, but once you get outside of a major city you are looking at edge networks at best on data, if at all. I have to use google maps, and pre-caching a journey from New Jersey to California is just not happening.
When t-mobile couldn't cut it on the dark spots between city lights, I got verizon. I will say I was 4G when I drove from New Jersey to California, LTE even almost the whole way.
If you are in a place where you will tend to stay there, and it is a city with 4G/LTE on T-mobile, they are fantastic. Just don't go to nowhere, usa and expect service.
My verizon bill of $110 versus my t-mobile bill of $70-something.
If I had to pick one or the other, i'd choose t-mobile because of the unlimited data, and then figure something else out for getting navigation off-network outside of major cities. My minimum network data is something north of 12 gigs a month and I can't afford buying it from verizon by the megabyte.
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All that does make sense but I would be buying a new phone every 2 years or even 1 so I would always be paying the $20 dollars a month per phone idk if I want that and traveling to my wife's parents I would only get 2g there at least that's what the tmobile site shows on the map. ..I appreciate the info guys maybe I'll switch to tmobile after my dads plan is up and see how it is
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