Hello, I was reading some of the root methods posted in the dev thread. I was wondering if any of those methods (being AT&T) will work on the Bell SGS III ?
I being a I727R user, found a one-click-method, that allowed me to root that phone when I did it. It was one batch file, which installed root and SU which was really nice.
I have not played around with ODIN too much and did not want to harm it. I know the SGS3 just released so things do take time. I was wondering if there will be a one click method to rooting the device, and in turn installing CWM.
Any suggestions would be great. Thank you
From what I've been heard and seen these days, I am 99% sure that all the Rogers/Bell/Telus/AT&T are the same model, which is I747M. So I assume that the rooting method is interchangeable.
I know the rooting method works on Rogers' one for sure.. I am going to do it tonight probably and report back.
noahattic said:
From what I've been heard and seen these days, I am 99% sure that all the Rogers/Bell/Telus/AT&T are the same model, which is I747M. So I assume that the rooting method is interchangeable.
I know the rooting method works on Rogers' one for sure.. I am going to do it tonight probably and report back.
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Much appreciated, please let me know how it goes, as I have 2 (BELL) I747's here to root and install recovery. I would be interested in what method is used to get these going.
Thanks
EDIT: I found this too...
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-root/how-to-root-sprint-galaxy-s3-sph-l710/
perhaps this is all you need to do ? I am not sure
This worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726960
you don't need to do the restore steps as we haven't pooched our devices.
fully compatible I'm on Telus. Use the new non counter trip methods in the att development forum
Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2
Woolios said:
fully compatible I'm on Telus. Use the new non counter trip methods in the att development forum
Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2
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nice wanna link that, I saw y2 going to try that just verifying that we don't need to bother with the fixboot.tar
Have you actually used the non-counter-trip root method on your phone? I just got a Bell phone and so far Odin fails each time I try.
Instructions:
Root Method Starts Here.
** Get Odin like mentioned Above
** Make Sure you have all Samsung Drivers installed.
** Reboot your phone into download mode
* Hold down Volume Down, Home and then power until Warning!! message is displayed
* Press Volume Up to continue.
** Your phone should now be in download mode and displaying a green Android and say Downloading. If it is not, power off your phone by holding down the power button and then try to get into Download mode again. Do NOT progress until you have done so.
** Go into the folder you extracted Odin3 into and run Odin3 v3.04.exe
** Connect your phone to your computer via USB
** In Odin, the COM box all the way to the left should turn blue and it should say Added!! in the Message area.
** Click on PDA and in the Open window that pops up navigate to and open the Tar With CWM from below file you downloaded earlier
** Verify that Auto Reboot and F. Reset Time are checked
** Click Start. Once the process is completed you device should automatically reboot and there will be a green PASS! box in the upper left of the window. You can then close Odin.
** Power off your device and boot into Recovery mode
* To boot into Recovery mode: Hold down Volume Up, Home and then the Power button until you are in Recovery (it should say CWM-based Recovery at the top of the screen)
**. Install CMW_SuperUser_v3.07.zip that you copied onto your internal memory
* Navigating ClockWorkMod Recovery: Use the Volume Up and Down arrow keys to change the highlighted option and the home key to select an option. The Back softkey works, but will not be lit and will take you back one screen.
Installing a zip:
* Select "Install zip from sdcard" (Yes, I know it's on the internal storage.)
* Select "Choose zip from sdcard"
* Select the zip you want to install; in this case CWM_SuperUser_v3.0.7.zip
* Select "Yes" to begin installing
**. Once the process has completed use the Back arrow to get back to the main recovery screen (remember, it works, but it's not lit) and select "reboot system now." Once your device boots up you should now be 'Rooted,' but there's still a few more things to be done
15. Install BusyBox. There are actually several ways to do this, but the BusyBox app in the Google Play Market is quick and easy. Install it, grant it SuperUser permissions and it'll walk you through the rest and advise you when to update.
16. Update your Binaries.
* Open the Superuser app
* Get into settings (the wrench icon in the upper right of the screen)
* Select Su binary under the General section towards the bottom of the list
* Select Update
**.Your device is now rooted and all set.
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That is all there is to root, as link above stated.... no need to flash 'fixboot.tar'
unibombz said:
That is all there is to root, as link above stated.... no need to flash 'fixboot.tar'
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This method trips the counter, does it not?
frelnik said:
This method trips the counter, does it not?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
read here for no trip. This is based on the AT&T model, Since I am using bell I did not bother, and followed the other method. I couldn't care if I tripped the counter... never have sent a phone in for warranty myself.
Since mine is i747M, I chose not to use the AT&T img just for my own reasons.
I just flashed cwm via odin, and SU via cwm
unibombz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
read here for no trip. This is based on the AT&T model, Since I am using bell I did not bother, and followed the other method. I couldn't care if I tripped the counter... never have sent a phone in for warranty myself.
Since mine is i747M, I chose not to use the AT&T img just for my own reasons.
I just flashed cwm via odin, and SU via cwm
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It should work fine but ofcorse nothing is perfect.
Once Bell's firmware is availiable on samsungs servers I plan on injecting a copy with SuperSU root and will make it availiable to others in an odin flashable file that wont trip the counter for those that dont know how to do it themselfs.
Also the non trip method of recovery is pretty stright forward as ive done simular things like this too on bootloaders on my SGS2 I will test and report my findings and give instructions for others once I can get my hands on Bells firmware.
Sent from my SGH-I747M
Has anybody confirmed that the AT&T no-trip root works on a Bell S3? My friend said it should since the model numbers are the same so same hardware.
Also dbzgod, is there any eta on when the stock Bell firmware is available?
seaskimmer said:
Has anybody confirmed that the AT&T no-trip root works on a Bell S3? My friend said it should since the model numbers are the same so same hardware.
Also dbzgod, is there any eta on when the stock Bell firmware is available?
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I havnt try'd myself but others have and said flashing the AT&T one works since the hardware is the exact same.
I have no clue. Bell has yet to post the firmware on Samsung kies server still waiting :/
Sent from my SGH-I747M
Alright thanks! I think I will give the AT&T version a try. I am a noob with Android after just making the switch to Android from iOS.
With the root, I will be able to uninstall any AT&T pre-included software right?
I can confirm it works, but it trip the counter, rooted, SU too, oh, well, it won't be to long until a fix for the counter is out.
hey guys,
I am fairly new to all of this so I am just wondering - what do we have to wait for before a bell specific root can be done?
softkey said:
I can confirm it works, but it trip the counter, rooted, SU too, oh, well, it won't be to long until a fix for the counter is out.
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Just to clarify, the no-trip-counter method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426 and it worked, but still tripped the counter?
Thank you [/QUOTE]
Have any of yous tried the triangle away app? It resets the trip counter to 0 and puts the custom binary download to official. I've used it a bunch no problems
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this method works just fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
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Hello as you saw the title I'm new here and noobie to android.
I've surfed some of the threads and saw some stuff I really dont know about it.
Please help me learn what all these mean:
1. rooting, I've read some threads about this but they all say it bricks your phone and something about binary count.
2. custom roms and mods?
3. something about stock.
4. flashing
5. Triangle and odin??
I got my note 2 yesterday and done some research on google then I found this site.
do you recommend rooting? if so, any links which helps me to root?
thank you for reading this
herocortez said:
Hello as you saw the title I'm new here and noobie to android.
I've surfed some of the threads and saw some stuff I really dont know about it.
Please help me learn what all these mean:
1. rooting, I've read some threads about this but they all say it bricks your phone and something about binary count.
2. custom roms and mods?
3. something about stock.
4. flashing
5. Triangle and odin??
I got my note 2 yesterday and done some research on google then I found this site.
do you recommend rooting? if so, any links which helps me to root?
thank you for reading this
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There isn't not brick for Note II. The flash is write firmware in a access protected memory and it is a delicate procedure that should never be interrupted while applying, if it may stop suddenly causing the brick. For the original firmware (rom in stock) the flash is ok, but if you are flashing the unofficial elements with smartphone in Download Mode you void your warranty. The only method to restore the warranty is the app TriangleAway. Odin is the program for flash the firmware Samsung with PC, and Odin Mobile is the program for flash directly on the device. With second choice you don't void your warranty because it does not go to Download Mode for the flash of unofficial versions, but to use it you must obtain the root and it means losing the OTA updates. Then updates you will need to do it manually and if you try to use the software Kies on PC, you lose root permissions.
Custom roms are Android's version personalized for a device, and mods are changes to the your system.
The guide for root is here.
Marchintosh said:
There isn't not brick for Note II. The flash is write firmware in a access protected memory and it is a delicate procedure that should never be interrupted while applying, if it may stop suddenly causing the brick. For the original firmware the flash is ok, but if you are flashing the unofficial elements with smartphone in Download Mode you void your warranty. The only method to restore the warranty is the app TriangleAway. Odin is the program for flash the firmware Samsung with PC, and Odin Mobile is the program for flash by the device. Custom roms are Android's version personalized for a device, and mods are changes to the your system.
The guide for root is here.
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Thank you!
Sorry but I dont get it when you wrote "For the original firmware the flash is ok, but if you are flashing the unofficial elements with smartphone in Download Mode you void your warranty"
thanks for your time
herocortez said:
Thank you!
Sorry but I dont get it when you wrote "For the original firmware the flash is ok, but if you are flashing the unofficial elements with smartphone in Download Mode you void your warranty"
thanks for your time
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if you flash files not owned by samsung you lose your warranty. To perform a flash from a smartphone without root, you must use the computer as a medium. So, you need to put your smartphone in Download Mode. All the Android devices have to access it:
1. Turn off the phone
2. Hold down the volume down, power button, home button for a few seconds and it appears.
3. Press volume up to confirm the access
Then You connected the device at usb port and with Odin from computer you start the flash of a certain file.
Marchintosh said:
if you flash files not owned by samsung you lose your warranty. To perform a flash from a smartphone without root, you must use the computer as a medium. So, you need to put your smartphone in Download Mode. All the Android devices have to access it:
1. Turn off the phone
2. Hold down the volume down, power button, home button for a few seconds and it appears.
3. Press volume up to confirm the access
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To be precise, even the usage of Odin voids your warranty It`s 100 % true. For Samsung the only way to update firmware is with Kies or OTA`s. If you have different software on your phone (even genuine samsung firmware) that is different than it came with out of the box, they can decide to revoke warranty!
gee2012 said:
To be precise, even the usage of Odin voids your warranty It`s 100 % true. For Samsung the only way to update firmware is with Kies or OTA`s. If you have different software on your phone (even genuine samsung firmware) that is different than it came with out of the box, they can decide to revoke warranty!
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if you use the original versions of the firmware, you obtain the root permissions without increase the warranty and nor increase the binary counter. For example, if you flash with Odin from PC a kernel with ClockworkMod void your warranty !
Hello,
First I want to apologize if this concern has already been answered before. I tried searching for a thread to answer my concern, however, it seems I cannot locate any specific.
I have a rooted Galaxy Note 2 (N7105). Now, I want to return to the original/stock firmware so as to update to the latest version. I don't want my device to be rooted anymore. I rooted it, however, did not do much about the privilege and advantages of having a rooted device. Guess, I don't have much time to explore. =(
QUESTION: I am planning to update my device later via KIES. When I try to update it, will it brick my phone? Or, will I encounter a situation wherein I need to do something else to have it back to the stock firmware? Is it safe to just update it via KIES? I don't care if after updating my device won't be rooted anymore.
Seeking for your friendly and professional advice. Have a great rest of the day.
JaYWaLkEr16 said:
Hello,
First I want to apologize if this concern has already been answered before. I tried searching for a thread to answer my concern, however, it seems I cannot locate any specific.
I have a rooted Galaxy Note 2 (N7105). Now, I want to return to the original/stock firmware so as to update to the latest version. I don't want my device to be rooted anymore. I rooted it, however, did not do much about the privilege and advantages of having a rooted device. Guess, I don't have much time to explore. =(
QUESTION: I am planning to update my device later via KIES. When I try to update it, will it brick my phone? Or, will I encounter a situation wherein I need to do something else to have it back to the stock firmware? Is it safe to just update it via KIES? I don't care if after updating my device won't be rooted anymore.
Seeking for your friendly and professional advice. Have a great rest of the day.
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you must be rooted now to folow this steps:
1 - install triangle away and download additional files when it ask
2 - select on triangle away reset counter
3 - it will restart your phone and select again to reset
4 - choose to restart phone in download mode
5 - flash via odin stock rom an use kies to update or folow this tutorial to flash latest stock rom for your phone
cosmyndemeter said:
you must be rooted now to folow this steps:
1 - install triangle away and download additional files when it ask
2 - select on triangle away reset counter
3 - it will restart your phone and select again to reset
4 - choose to restart phone in download mode
5 - flash via odin stock rom an use kies to update or folow this tutorial to flash latest stock rom for your phone
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I't been a while. Just want to say thank you. =] I was able to unroot my device before, now I am going to root again.
Hello,
Just want to let you know that this worked for me when I unrooted my N7105 before. I used triangle away and followed this step.
Now, I rooted it and would like to unroot it again. I can see that the KNOX WARRANTY somehow has already been void.
Can I still use the same procedure 1. Reset Flash Counter via Triangle Away and 2. Follow this "KIES" procedure? Or will it be different because of the KNOX WARRANTY scenario? Your help is appreciated. Thank you.
Hello,
I'm new to this whole rooting thing (I need to root my device for a couple of apps from the Google Play store) and I've been reading all the forums and I'm scratching my head going over all the information and I want to make sure I get it right so I don't brick my phone. Here is my situation:
- I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (SM-N900T) on T-Mobile USA which was purchased October 2013
- This phone is stock from T-Mobile and has never had any type of mods, etc done to it
- 2 days ago, I upgraded the software OTA to KitKat 4.4.2
- I do NOT have the 'multitouch' issue as described in some of the forums
All I want to do at the end of the day is root my phone, without damaging it - preferably without tripping KNOX either (if possible).
It is confusing to me which thread to follow. I see links / instructions for CF-Root, CF-Auto-Root, Root De La Vega, etc are from October 2013 (not sure if this latest OTA update changes the steps) and I don't know which one to use without damaging my phone. I have the AP, CP, CSC information if this helps. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Follow this exactly from step 4 (since you already have 4.4.2), and you will have no issues. All root methods as of now trip KNOX, so if you really don't want to do that, don't root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393
Enjoy!
bobbyphoenix said:
Follow this exactly from step 4 (since you already have 4.4.2), and you will have no issues. All root methods as of now trip KNOX, so if you really don't want to do that, don't root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393
Enjoy!
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Thanks for this! Will this erase my phone back to defaults? Do I need to backup my phone prior to rooting it?
Everything will stay as is. None of the steps does a factory reset. All that will happen is you gain root, and will be able to use the SD card like you did on 4.3. As far as a back up goes I don't think you can on stock. You need the custom recovery which this will give you. Then you can do that if you want.
Sent from a Galaxy Note 3 far, far away....
bobbyphoenix said:
Everything will stay as is. None of the steps does a factory reset. All that will happen is you gain root, and will be able to use the SD card like you did on 4.3. As far as a back up goes I don't think you can on stock. You need the custom recovery which this will give you. Then you can do that if you want.
Sent from a Galaxy Note 3 far, far away....
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Great, thanks again. I will try this tomorrow.
Just some tips if you haven't used ODIN before, or used custom recoveries. When it does its thing, and reboots, make sure ODIN says PASS before disconnecting or shutting off. It's not in the instructions since those doing this know this, but just giving a heads up. Also on the last step after flashing the SD card fix it says to back out until you see REBOOT. When you do that you have two options. You want to press the option 1. NO, and not 2. Reset/stop custom recovery. Again it's not in the post, but you want to keep the custom recovery active, so always select NO.
Sent from a Galaxy Note 3 far, far away....
Thanks so much BobbyPhoenix! Looks like everything is working and my phone is not bricked
Now that I have rooted my phone, I need to read up on what else I can do besides use apps from the Google Play that require root access, e.g. removing bloatware and using my phone as an Access Point.
Thanks again!
Good to hear. One of my first apps I install is AdAway. It's not in the Play Store because Google bans all ad-blockers. If you hate ads (like me) this is a must have. If you want to try it here is the link. After you install it, and open it for the first time to install the hosts, you may be prompted to do a symlink. This is normal. Just press yes. Enjoy your root!
You don't have to download the F-Droid app. Just look for "download apk" under the latest version which right now is 2.8.1.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=adaway&fdid=org.adaway
changelog site
https://raw.github.com/dschuermann/ad-away/master/CHANGELOG
Good morning all, since my post above back in March, my rooted Note 3 has worked great. Today, when I connected my phone to Kies3, I see that there is an available firmware update from:
PDA:NB4 / PHONE:NB4 / CSC:NB4 (TMB)
to
PDA:NE6 / PHONE:NE6 / CSC:NE6 (TMB)
Are there any precautions I need to take if I want to upgrade to the latest firmware using Kies3 if my phone is rooted using the above procedure?
Thanks in advance!
Not sure if Kies will let you update firmware as you are rooted.
You can update to the NE6 Firmware by using Odin.
Find firmware either in this forum or elsewhere and flash away.
There was a good thread here on the Tmobile GN3 Forum with dl links, and steps.
Be well.
Thanks... I'll see what I can find.
gil_happy said:
Thanks... I'll see what I can find.
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Yes there is, when you Odin, make sure you are on stock kernel, and then before you go into Odin go ahead and run triangle away, then boot into download mode. Just seems some people have had issues getting modem to flash, and getting boot loader to flash. Other than that you will have no issues. Thanks man.
Hi guys,
I am new to the xda forums and I have been researching about rooting my note 10.1 2014 p600 (WIFI). I have three questions about rooting my device.
1. How would I update my tab with root? I heard you can't get OTA updates.
2. What is the best and safest way to root?
3. How do I get TWRP and is it good?
I haven't installed knox on it yet and I am a beginner to linux and have done research so I know what root is.
dudeian said:
Hi guys,
I am new to the xda forums and I have been researching about rooting my note 10.1 2014 p600 (WIFI). I have three questions about rooting my device.
1. How would I update my tab with root? I heard you can't get OTA updates.
2. What is the best and safest way to root?
3. How do I get TWRP and is it good?
I haven't installed knox on it yet and I am a beginner to linux and have done research so I know what root is.
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Ok, First, for the p600 if you root, you will trip Knox which will void your warranty and there is no way around this and this is the only way to root your model (p600), If you don't care about warranty then continue...
1) Download this file https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11938873/CF-Auto-Root-lt03wifi-lt03wifixx-smp600.zip then unzip, you will see this file CF-Auto-Root-lt03wifi-lt03wifixx-smp600.tar.md5.
2) Turn Off Tablet, Hold Volume Down + Power. Follow the instructions on the screen to get to download mode (Odin mode).
Rooting Instructions
1.Flash the CF-Auto-Root-lt03wifi-lt03wifixx-smp600.tar.md5 file with Odin v3.09 (put in AP slot, don't change any other settings, click start)
2.Let it do its trick! boot up then go to play store download and install supersu in order to update supersu to the latest binary.
3. Boot back into Odin mode and flash TWRP version 2.6.3.3 found here https://goo.im/devs/OpenRecovery/lt03wifiue/
That's all!
buhohitr said:
Ok, First, for the p600 if you root, you will trip Knox which will void your warranty and there is no way around this and this is the only way to root your model (p600), If you don't care about warranty then continue...
1) Download this file then unzip, you will see this file CF-Auto-Root-lt03wifi-lt03wifixx-smp600.tar.md5.
2) Turn Off Tablet, Hold Volume Down + Power. Follow the instructions on the screen to get to download mode (Odin mode).
Rooting Instructions
1.Flash the CF-Auto-Root-lt03wifi-lt03wifixx-smp600.tar.md5 file with Odin v3.09 (put in AP slot, don't change any other settings, click start)
2.Let it do its trick! boot up then go to play store download and install supersu in order to update supersu to the latest binary.
3. Boot back into Odin mode and flash TWRP version 2.6.3.3 found here
That's all!
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Thanks! This is great help.
buhohitr said:
Ok, First, for the p600 if you root, you will trip Knox which will void your warranty and there is no way around this and this is the only way to root your model (p600), If you don't care about warranty then continue...
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Knox is just a shortcut to the install link, Does this mean it's not installed or is the shortcut just extras (I don't know how to post screenshots).
dudeian said:
Knox is just a shortcut to the install link, Does this mean it's not installed or is the shortcut just extras (I don't know how to post screenshots).
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I don't understand what you are saying???
When I said tripped Knox void warranty is that your device detected that you installed unauthorized software which tripped the knox counter. You can see this by boot into download mode (Odin mode) and you should see a line like this:
Warranty bit: 1 (factory is 0x0)
I hope that what you're asking!
buhohitr said:
I don't understand what you are saying???
When I said tripped Knox void warranty is that your device detected that you installed unauthorized software which tripped the knox counter. You can see this by boot into download mode (Odin mode) and you should see a line like this:
Warranty bit: 1 (factory is 0x0)
I hope that what you're asking!
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Yup.
ok, now i'm getting confused.
my p600 is still on 4.3 jellybean. but from what i read, as long as did not update to kitkat firmware, i can still unroot and reverse the warranty bit bcoz they don't have knox yet. but it'll be too late if i updated to kikat right? btw, i used cf-auto-root.
just weeks ago i rooted my p600 and flashed stock recovery, so now my p600 thinks its stock official firmware, even say so in about device.
i haven't tried unrooting it yet to confirm that i can get warrenty back by flashing back whole stock firmware bcoz i don't want to redo all settings again. but thats the impression i'm geting.
anyhow if i can't really reverse that warranty thing i don't really care anyways. i warranty my stuff better than they do it, and since i think i can still get updates, it bothers me even less if its unreversible. but in the case if i'm right, and i can reverse that warranty bit. maybe one day i'd like to update to kitkat. then what? i'll have to have knox in my system and i can't reverse warranty counter anymore?
is there a way i can update to a custom kikat firmware (one day) and not have knox so i'll still be able to get warranty back?
i kind of realized the dilemma i have here since if i own the device for more than a yr, my warranty wouldn't matter anymore. am i just thinking too much and worrying myself?
kazukiflame said:
ok, now i'm getting confused.
my p600 is still on 4.3 jellybean. but from what i read, as long as did not update to kitkat firmware, i can still unroot and reverse the warranty bit bcoz they don't have knox yet. but it'll be too late if i updated to kikat right? btw, i used cf-auto-root.
just weeks ago i rooted my p600 and flashed stock recovery, so now my p600 thinks its stock official firmware, even say so in about device.
i haven't tried unrooting it yet to confirm that i can get warrenty back by flashing back whole stock firmware bcoz i don't want to redo all settings again. but thats the impression i'm geting.
anyhow if i can't really reverse that warranty thing i don't really care anyways. i warranty my stuff better than they do it, and since i think i can still get updates, it bothers me even less if its unreversible. but in the case if i'm right, and i can reverse that warranty bit. maybe one day i'd like to update to kitkat. then what? i'll have to have knox in my system and i can't reverse warranty counter anymore?
is there a way i can update to a custom kikat firmware (one day) and not have knox so i'll still be able to get warranty back?
i kind of realized the dilemma i have here since if i own the device for more than a yr, my warranty wouldn't matter anymore. am i just thinking too much and worrying myself?
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Yes you're confused!!. Knox has nothing to do with warranty bit, once this tripped, you can't undo doesn't matter you on 4.3 or 4.4.
I'm a little confused on a few other issues. I have read over 40 pages on another thread here about rooting etc and I couldn't find the answer to a few questions. I've just successfully rooted using the most recent instructions (P600 - CF Auto root) but in earlier instructions (about a year ago) you had to also install the stock recovery file using Odin. Is that a necessary step? Is it needed for OTA updates? Since I've read that OTA updates will unroot and possibly prevent you from rooting at all, is it best to just forget about OTAs and flash up to date files from this site? Is it also prudent to turn off auto updating in the settings.
If I'm not installing custom roms and backed up using Titanium Pro do I really need to install TWRP? Any other benefits other than nandroid? Thanks
jbarr3 said:
I'm a little confused on a few other issues. I have read over 40 pages on another thread here about rooting etc and I couldn't find the answer to a few questions. I've just successfully rooted using the most recent instructions (P600 - CF Auto root) but in earlier instructions (about a year ago) you had to also install the stock recovery file using Odin. Is that a necessary step? Is it needed for OTA updates? Since I've read that OTA updates will unroot and possibly prevent you from rooting at all, is it best to just forget about OTAs and flash up to date files from this site? Is it also prudent to turn off auto updating in the settings.
If I'm not installing custom roms and backed up using Titanium Pro do I really need to install TWRP? Any other benefits other than nandroid? Thanks
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Once you rooted you can't use OTA update any more. So the easiest going forward is to flash TWRP and use it to flash pre-rooted rom from this site.
Thanks buhohitr
I guess I'm installing TWRP tonight. There are many versions up to 2.8 I think. Which one do you recommend for P600? I've tried searching for "installing TWRP" but there were no obvious hits like there were for rooting. Which is the key thread?
To my first question, I'm assuming that the later root methods automatically installs or leaves the stock recovery as earlier methods needed to load it. Am I right?
jbarr3 said:
I've tried searching for "installing TWRP" but there were no obvious hits like there were for rooting.
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OK found the thread and I just read the last 55 pages (that took a while) and boy is it scary. So many problems. Touch not accurate, inverted screens, certain versions failing eg 2.7, can't access external SD card, continual looping, booting into the old recovery , OTG cables not working, time zones can't be set properly, some say turn off autoboot in odin and some say don't change default settings etc etc. the list goes on and on. I likened it to a bushfire or tornado. Some houses still stand and some don't and you want to know the silly thing here, I am an experienced computer teacher with a degree in computer science and I've upgraded firmware on over a hundred devices over the years and yet all this rooting and recovery stuff is another world. The rooting process, admittedly, was a piece of cake and the instructions for flashing TWRP seems easy too but after that there seems to be so many problems. So hit and miss.
All i want to do is load TWRP on a P600. I will only load custom ROMs when a new firmware version comes out. Can someone alleviate my fears who has successfully loaded TWRP recently on a P600 using ODIN without massive tweaking to get it going. What version TWRP did you use and did you turn off autoboot or not?
PS Have I posted this in the correct section?
Took the plunge and loaded the latest TWRP 2.8.1 and it worked perfectly except I could only back to the main SD storage and not my extSD. I ended up, as a work around, moving the backup files to the extSD drive and PC.
I think I was worried unnecessarily.
*Updated 3/2017 to include same for LL updated SM-T707A*
For anyone else who has the SM-T707A (tab s 8.4" AT&T LTE version) -
Issues with this tablet:
1. Upgrading to Lollipop - seems that without an actual AT&T sim card installed, you're not going to be able to upgrade from 4.4.2 (cannot download the OTA update, and I haven't been able to find a download of the firmware online ANYWHERE).
2. Locked Bootloader - possible to carrier unlock for any compatible GMS carrier (I'm using mine with a T-mobile sim card), but seems that there is no way to unlock the bootloader/install a custom recovery.
(**NOTE: DO NOT TRY AND INSTALL TWRP OR USE THE UNLOCK/RECOVERY UTILITIES FOR THE SM-T705 ... while it seems like they would effectively be the same devices, both have exynos cpu and identical specs...I have tested out the odin-flashable methods from the development section that are for the SM-T705, and THESE WILL SOFT BRICK YOUR DEVICE. A HUGE ISSUE, SINCE THE STOCK FIRMWARE IS REALLY REALLY REALLY DIFFICULT TO FIND..)
SILVER LININGS:
1. Even if you have to stay on 4.4.2, you should be able to root with Kingo Root.
2. If you are rooted with Kingo on 4.4.2, and want to switch to SuperSU app instead of the KingoRoot one, you can try this (worked for me):
**Update 3/2017 - this will also work on LL updated SM-T707A
1. Install SuperSU app through google play store (regular install...NOT an update via recovery). This means you will now have TWO Superuser apps installed on your phone. Only the Kingo Superuser will have the authority to grant SU permissions at this point. Now open SuperSU and make sure it is installed. It should ask you to update the SU binary (you won't be able to yet, but make sure you get the prompt).
2. Download a terminal emulator app, or enable usb debugging in dev options, connect phone to pc, and open an adb shell.
3. Follow the instructions for switching to SuperSU available on android forums (search for "bakageta" +" supersu to kingo" +"android forums" ).
4. Download @bakageta's zip file and put on your sd card. Then open your terminal emulator or adb shell as root (type "su" + press enter) and run the first command: "# ./step0.sh" Remember to leave your terminal emulator open when you move on to the next step (same goes for your adb window).
5. Uninstall the Kingo Root apps (your tablet will then ~likely~ auto-reboot, closing the terminal emulator...DON'T PANIC, THIS IS OK.)
6. After your tablet boots back up, you should still have root**, but now your Superuser app will be SuperSU.
**UPDATE (3/2017, running the LL updated SM-T707A) If you are doing this on LL, you may need to also run the subsequent bakageta script, "# ./step1.sh" after the initial reboot to get SuperSU root access.
--> If anyone here knows how I can make a backup of the firmware I currently have installed (rooted stock 5.0.1) that can be used as a restore image via odin, please let me know! I'd gladly upload the file for anyone who is having trouble unbricking their devices, since the stock files are so insanely difficult to find for this particular variant of the tab s.
--Thanks to @Kingxteam
--Thanks to @bakageta for the alcatel scripts
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chixvicious, did you ever managed to get those backups? I got a soft-bricked 707A and i also cant find the stock roms anywhere
PAragao said:
chixvicious, did you ever managed to get those backups? I got a soft-bricked 707A and i also cant find the stock roms anywhere
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still not allowed to post links, but files can be found at dropbox dot com/s/mjobo2sfa53x2dv/T707AUCU1ANH9_T707AATT1ANH9_4.4.4_USA_4Files.rar?dl=0
Okay so I can confirm Galaxy Tab S 707a 8.4" LTE can be rooted in 4.4.2 with Kingo. It's goofy like kingo is , but it worked unfortunately that's not quite enough for myself as six axis never communicates w. Stock annnnd tmobile sucks and are being jerks can't use it without special plan so I'm putting my WiFi board back in. If any one wants rooted 4.4.2 unlocked motherboard......useless wasted tech here, all thanks to software restrictions.
updated for anyone else playing with these / whom it may concern if they ever google up this old ass device , I confirm on 4.4.2 707a I have successfully root with kingo and them using SUPERSUME apk I have swtiched it fully to SuperSU . Also using online nandroid backup with the 805 LTE variant patch I was able to get a full backup. I think I'm in decent shape for experimentation as I'm on the lowest order firmware and hopefully , not sure but hopefully if anything goes badly i can just update to newer firmware. Going to attempt using SAFESTRAP recovery next
SuperlativeB said:
updated for anyone else playing with these / whom it may concern if they ever google up this old ass device , I confirm on 4.4.2 707a I have successfully root with kingo and them using SUPERSUME apk I have swtiched it fully to SuperSU . Also using online nandroid backup with the 805 LTE variant patch I was able to get a full backup. I think I'm in decent shape for experimentation as I'm on the lowest order firmware and hopefully , not sure but hopefully if anything goes badly i can just update to newer firmware. Going to attempt using SAFESTRAP recovery next
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I still have 2 of these and am constantly disappointed at how much development there is for every other variants but this one.
I got safestrap in , was able to reboot and see it but no luck due to se enforcing , I tried everything to get it to permissive but no luck. I went back to my WiFi model ha , oh well. Have to look for a 705 that has unlocked boot / better firmware
pm me if you still have that!
SuperlativeB said:
Okay so I can confirm Galaxy Tab S 707a 8.4" LTE can be rooted in 4.4.2 with Kingo. It's goofy like kingo is , but it worked unfortunately that's not quite enough for myself as six axis never communicates w. Stock annnnd tmobile sucks and are being jerks can't use it without special plan so I'm putting my WiFi board back in. If any one wants rooted 4.4.2 unlocked motherboard......useless wasted tech here, all thanks to software restrictions.
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PM me if you still have that! I randomly have an extra (shattered screen) Tab S 8.4" without a motherboard, and would play around with trying to unlock the bootloader on it if I had a mobo to put in it!
Thanks!
SuperlativeB said:
I got safestrap in , was able to reboot and see it but no luck due to se enforcing , I tried everything to get it to permissive but no luck. I went back to my WiFi model ha , oh well. Have to look for a 705 that has unlocked boot / better firmware
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I could help get this permissive on kitkat, but not LL or MM.
ashyx said:
I could help get this permissive on kitkat, but not LL or MM.
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What are your thoughts ? It's def still kitkat , but I've tried init'd stuff and all sorts crap. If i got permissive i could possibly get safestrap to boot and then try out roms intended for the regular LTE variant. It is just kind of useless for me as T-mobile it's device Id as tablet so they lock it out then if i just wanted to use it WiFi the TouchWiz stuff kills remote controls like six axis and stuff. Id prob use it daily if i could get past device id pickups / safestrap a way into better rom
anyone have the 6.0.1 firmware?