Hello,
I'm new to this whole rooting thing (I need to root my device for a couple of apps from the Google Play store) and I've been reading all the forums and I'm scratching my head going over all the information and I want to make sure I get it right so I don't brick my phone. Here is my situation:
- I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (SM-N900T) on T-Mobile USA which was purchased October 2013
- This phone is stock from T-Mobile and has never had any type of mods, etc done to it
- 2 days ago, I upgraded the software OTA to KitKat 4.4.2
- I do NOT have the 'multitouch' issue as described in some of the forums
All I want to do at the end of the day is root my phone, without damaging it - preferably without tripping KNOX either (if possible).
It is confusing to me which thread to follow. I see links / instructions for CF-Root, CF-Auto-Root, Root De La Vega, etc are from October 2013 (not sure if this latest OTA update changes the steps) and I don't know which one to use without damaging my phone. I have the AP, CP, CSC information if this helps. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Follow this exactly from step 4 (since you already have 4.4.2), and you will have no issues. All root methods as of now trip KNOX, so if you really don't want to do that, don't root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393
Enjoy!
bobbyphoenix said:
Follow this exactly from step 4 (since you already have 4.4.2), and you will have no issues. All root methods as of now trip KNOX, so if you really don't want to do that, don't root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393
Enjoy!
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Thanks for this! Will this erase my phone back to defaults? Do I need to backup my phone prior to rooting it?
Everything will stay as is. None of the steps does a factory reset. All that will happen is you gain root, and will be able to use the SD card like you did on 4.3. As far as a back up goes I don't think you can on stock. You need the custom recovery which this will give you. Then you can do that if you want.
Sent from a Galaxy Note 3 far, far away....
bobbyphoenix said:
Everything will stay as is. None of the steps does a factory reset. All that will happen is you gain root, and will be able to use the SD card like you did on 4.3. As far as a back up goes I don't think you can on stock. You need the custom recovery which this will give you. Then you can do that if you want.
Sent from a Galaxy Note 3 far, far away....
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Great, thanks again. I will try this tomorrow.
Just some tips if you haven't used ODIN before, or used custom recoveries. When it does its thing, and reboots, make sure ODIN says PASS before disconnecting or shutting off. It's not in the instructions since those doing this know this, but just giving a heads up. Also on the last step after flashing the SD card fix it says to back out until you see REBOOT. When you do that you have two options. You want to press the option 1. NO, and not 2. Reset/stop custom recovery. Again it's not in the post, but you want to keep the custom recovery active, so always select NO.
Sent from a Galaxy Note 3 far, far away....
Thanks so much BobbyPhoenix! Looks like everything is working and my phone is not bricked
Now that I have rooted my phone, I need to read up on what else I can do besides use apps from the Google Play that require root access, e.g. removing bloatware and using my phone as an Access Point.
Thanks again!
Good to hear. One of my first apps I install is AdAway. It's not in the Play Store because Google bans all ad-blockers. If you hate ads (like me) this is a must have. If you want to try it here is the link. After you install it, and open it for the first time to install the hosts, you may be prompted to do a symlink. This is normal. Just press yes. Enjoy your root!
You don't have to download the F-Droid app. Just look for "download apk" under the latest version which right now is 2.8.1.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=adaway&fdid=org.adaway
changelog site
https://raw.github.com/dschuermann/ad-away/master/CHANGELOG
Good morning all, since my post above back in March, my rooted Note 3 has worked great. Today, when I connected my phone to Kies3, I see that there is an available firmware update from:
PDA:NB4 / PHONE:NB4 / CSC:NB4 (TMB)
to
PDA:NE6 / PHONE:NE6 / CSC:NE6 (TMB)
Are there any precautions I need to take if I want to upgrade to the latest firmware using Kies3 if my phone is rooted using the above procedure?
Thanks in advance!
Not sure if Kies will let you update firmware as you are rooted.
You can update to the NE6 Firmware by using Odin.
Find firmware either in this forum or elsewhere and flash away.
There was a good thread here on the Tmobile GN3 Forum with dl links, and steps.
Be well.
Thanks... I'll see what I can find.
gil_happy said:
Thanks... I'll see what I can find.
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Yes there is, when you Odin, make sure you are on stock kernel, and then before you go into Odin go ahead and run triangle away, then boot into download mode. Just seems some people have had issues getting modem to flash, and getting boot loader to flash. Other than that you will have no issues. Thanks man.
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As always, going to put together a thread with all of my how to videos! Expect many more to come and be sure to subscribe to my channel!
Development:
How to Root:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6BweCW5ck8
How to get free Wifi hotspot:
NOT AVAILABLE YET. Will do a video once available.
How to Unroot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaZiO8vfrME
How to Install the JellyBomb Rom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XURHu--kcU
Review of the JellyBomb Rom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_lIrk3H4U
How to get Multi Window MOD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kotpO7kUiGY
Tips:
How to improve home button responsiveness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIMO9y_B3fw
How to Improve Screen Wake Lag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHMIxBUclh0
S Pen Review, Tips and Tricks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byEu3mfTlUc
1080p Video camera test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me3tvw9M30o
Hope everyone likes them!
Noobs should come to General first and the first thing they should see is how-to videos so...
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Thank You for the videos Mr. Hottie
Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 2
Very nice as always!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
Thank you a lot
Counter?
I read somewhere about Samsung devices having a counter or something (so Samsung can know if you root i believe). Do these root methods up the counter or is what is the deal with that? sorry for being so uniformed, I have only had HTC and Motorola phones.
BDawgTrap said:
I read somewhere about Samsung devices having a counter or something (so Samsung can know if you root i believe). Do these root methods up the counter or is what is the deal with that? sorry for being so uniformed, I have only had HTC and Motorola phones.
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Yes they have a counter. You can get triangle away which will reset the counter. In original andriod development section, go to cf auto root and it should explain everything for you.
Thanks qbking77, love all your videos!
Thanks for the helpful guide :fingers-crossed:
So if we choose option 3, the All in one method, instead of option 2 that would allow for OTAs. What steps would one take to revert back to stock recovery to be able to except OTA updates? Just mainly concerned about the multitasking fix when that becomes available. I know devs will likely get it working and made flashable for those with the custom recoveries but Im just curious for my own knowledge.
Also, if one was to choose to take option 2 for a while, would you run this process over again and choose option 3 to re-root and install the custom recovery?
Extremely new to sammy devices so just want to have all my ducks in a row before I do the root. Not really sure if im going to flash any roms or not until a cm10 drops, but I may get bored in a day or two and decide to. So I wanna know which steps to take after initially choosing option 2 or option 3 during intiial root.
Thanks for the responsiveness how-to's!
BDawgTrap said:
I read somewhere about Samsung devices having a counter or something (so Samsung can know if you root i believe). Do these root methods up the counter or is what is the deal with that? sorry for being so uniformed, I have only had HTC and Motorola phones.
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You can use triangle away to reset counter after root but after you flash rom count will increase to value 1 .
From that point Triangle Away wont reset count which is bad news for those that use AllShare Cast Wireless Hub.
Hub does not work with flash count value 1.
From there only way to reset count is to flash stock tar
daemon still not running error
Any one else getting this?
OTA update, need to unroot first?
Hello,
So I did select option 2 for rooting, with no custom recovery and I wanted to know, when I do get this new OTA update for multiview, will I need to unroot first or should it install with no problems? I am assuming I'll probably lose root after I update with the OTA. Thanks again!
phungshum said:
Hello,
So I did select option 2 for rooting, with no custom recovery and I wanted to know, when I do get this new OTA update for multiview, will I need to unroot first or should it install with no problems? I am assuming I'll probably lose root after I update with the OTA. Thanks again!
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Should be able to install with no issues at all if you have stock recovery
qbking77 said:
Should be able to install with no issues at all if you have stock recovery
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QBKING77,
Thanks for all of your videos. I routinely check out your Youtube sight before I do anything to my phones.
I am running the stock ROM and am not rooted. Will I be able to root my device if I accept the OTA or should I root first and then flash a pre-rooted stock Rom with the OTA? I have nothing against rooting, I just don't have the time right now, but I don't want to have to wait weeks until someone figures out how to root the new OTA ROM if it can't be rooted right off of the bat.
Thanks again.
Hey qbKing77, I have been checking out your videos on Youtube and those along with this thread have been very helpful. I am looking to root my Sph-L900 but I am new to rooting. One question is I love all the S-Pen functions and options. What options will keep this while rooting? Should I just root and keep a "Stock ROM" or can I bring in something like JellyBomb or Blazer (preferably JB cause I love the Customization he has done with it.). As of right now I'm not looking to lose those functions, also if i flashed that JB ROM after an OTA update will the Multiwindow be available or wait for an update to the ROM itself?
Again new to it, and I understand the guidelines of the Forum I am no noob to forums or tech just to rooting itself.
Thanks
sling said:
You can use triangle away to reset counter after root but after you flash rom count will increase to value 1 .
From that point Triangle Away wont reset count which is bad news for those that use AllShare Cast Wireless Hub.
Hub does not work with flash count value 1.
From there only way to reset count is to flash stock tar
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So if I use QBKing77's "Unroot" method, that will reset everything(aka unroot), this will also reset the counter to 0? And if I wanna go back, just reroot again?
I am coming from HTC phones(my last 3 were a Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2 and EVO 3D) so just as BDawgTrap, I am unfamiliar with the counter that Samsung uses.
Thank you for all your helpful videos,I'm now a subscriber.I do have a question though,I'm rooted with option 3 and wanted to DL the newest sprint OTA system update.What needs to be done to do so?
I just got the note 2 today and my phone already have LJC install...how do i root form there?
plokm said:
I just got the note 2 today and my phone already have LJC install...how do i root form there?
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You should be fine doing it the same way as if you had the prior firmware.
I had already manually added the LJC build to my unrooted note 2 and just did the rooting process and it went smoothly.
I am now rooted.
Hello,
First I want to apologize if this concern has already been answered before. I tried searching for a thread to answer my concern, however, it seems I cannot locate any specific.
I have a rooted Galaxy Note 2 (N7105). Now, I want to return to the original/stock firmware so as to update to the latest version. I don't want my device to be rooted anymore. I rooted it, however, did not do much about the privilege and advantages of having a rooted device. Guess, I don't have much time to explore. =(
QUESTION: I am planning to update my device later via KIES. When I try to update it, will it brick my phone? Or, will I encounter a situation wherein I need to do something else to have it back to the stock firmware? Is it safe to just update it via KIES? I don't care if after updating my device won't be rooted anymore.
Seeking for your friendly and professional advice. Have a great rest of the day.
JaYWaLkEr16 said:
Hello,
First I want to apologize if this concern has already been answered before. I tried searching for a thread to answer my concern, however, it seems I cannot locate any specific.
I have a rooted Galaxy Note 2 (N7105). Now, I want to return to the original/stock firmware so as to update to the latest version. I don't want my device to be rooted anymore. I rooted it, however, did not do much about the privilege and advantages of having a rooted device. Guess, I don't have much time to explore. =(
QUESTION: I am planning to update my device later via KIES. When I try to update it, will it brick my phone? Or, will I encounter a situation wherein I need to do something else to have it back to the stock firmware? Is it safe to just update it via KIES? I don't care if after updating my device won't be rooted anymore.
Seeking for your friendly and professional advice. Have a great rest of the day.
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you must be rooted now to folow this steps:
1 - install triangle away and download additional files when it ask
2 - select on triangle away reset counter
3 - it will restart your phone and select again to reset
4 - choose to restart phone in download mode
5 - flash via odin stock rom an use kies to update or folow this tutorial to flash latest stock rom for your phone
cosmyndemeter said:
you must be rooted now to folow this steps:
1 - install triangle away and download additional files when it ask
2 - select on triangle away reset counter
3 - it will restart your phone and select again to reset
4 - choose to restart phone in download mode
5 - flash via odin stock rom an use kies to update or folow this tutorial to flash latest stock rom for your phone
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I't been a while. Just want to say thank you. =] I was able to unroot my device before, now I am going to root again.
Hello,
Just want to let you know that this worked for me when I unrooted my N7105 before. I used triangle away and followed this step.
Now, I rooted it and would like to unroot it again. I can see that the KNOX WARRANTY somehow has already been void.
Can I still use the same procedure 1. Reset Flash Counter via Triangle Away and 2. Follow this "KIES" procedure? Or will it be different because of the KNOX WARRANTY scenario? Your help is appreciated. Thank you.
Hello,
I own a N5110 (Wifi) version of the Galaxy NOTE 8.0
The warranty is void since the first day... So I don't have a problem with rooting
I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMY1xqXBhU
But I've read the comments, ppl have problems!!
And I'm not sure if it works with N5110 or for N5100 variant only!
Another Q:
Will the UNROOTING Process be easy, or it'll require flashing?
Won't I receive updates from SAMSUNG while being rooted (Without custom ROM) ??
AhmadLight said:
Hello,
I own a N5110 (Wifi) version of the Galaxy NOTE 8.0
The warranty is void since the first day... So I don't have a problem with rooting
I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMY1xqXBhU
But I've read the comments, ppl have problems!!
And I'm not sure if it works with N5110 or for N5100 variant only!
Another Q:
Will the UNROOTING Process be easy, or it'll require flashing?
Won't I receive updates from SAMSUNG while being rooted (Without custom ROM) ??
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For the first question, I am not sure never rooted with that.
For the second question you do need to flash the stock. Usually people just do that to hide that it has been rooted. If it is for that purpose that you are asking, and you have flashed roms, I recommend using Triangle Away, because that erases the counter of how many ROMs you have installed.
If you are at the stock you will receive updates, and if you do the update you will lose root. I have done that in the past with my Droid Bionic. I do not recommend it though because it lagged the hell out of my phone
raul4916 said:
For the first question, I am not sure never rooted with that.
For the second question you do need to flash the stock. Usually people just do that to hide that it has been rooted. If it is for that purpose that you are asking, and you have flashed roms, I recommend using Triangle Away, because that erases the counter of how many ROMs you have installed.
If you are at the stock you will receive updates, and if you do the update you will lose root. I have done that in the past with my Droid Bionic. I do not recommend it though because it lagged the hell out of my phone
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Well, what's the point in installing the STOCK ROM if I wanted to UNROOT in my case?? (I mean I've no warranty anyway)
Can I just unroot without flashing?
And Yes I know about Triangle Away, I've read about it recently.
For the first question>> what do you recommend for rooting NOTE 8.0 N5110 ?
Thanks
AhmadLight said:
Well, what's the point in installing the STOCK ROM if I wanted to UNROOT in my case?? (I mean I've no warranty anyway)
Can I just unroot without flashing?
And Yes I know about Triangle Away, I've read about it recently.
For the first question>> what do you recommend for rooting NOTE 8.0 N5110 ?
Thanks
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As far as I know(being doing this for 3 years) There is no way to unroot without flashing the Stock Rom. The only way to flash the stock is using odin.
Honestly I do not know the best easy way to do it. All depends on the version you are at. I was on the updated version(not sure the build number). That framework apk didn't work with the version I had. The way I rooted was by first unlocking, then installed the TWRP through odin, then flashed a zip that rooted my phone. I do not recall any of the links. For the files, I lost them all because I just got a new computer and I was dumb enough to not do the back up on the other computer. Also I dont remember if there was steps in between, so I dont recommend following what I mentioned .
the way that I did is very similar to this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251033
raul4916 said:
As far as I know(being doing this for 3 years) There is no way to unroot without flashing the Stock Rom. The only way to flash the stock is using odin.
Honestly I do not know the best easy way to do it. All depends on the version you are at. I was on the updated version(not sure the build number). That framework apk didn't work with the version I had. The way I rooted was by first unlocking, then installed the TWRP through odin, then flashed a zip that rooted my phone. I do not recall any of the links. For the files, I lost them all because I just got a new computer and I was dumb enough to not do the back up on the other computer. Also I dont remember if there was steps in between, so I dont recommend following what I mentioned .
the way that I did is very similar to this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251033
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Thanks for your big help :good:
You can just install a nandroid stock rom for your device which is non rooted...
Hi All
Let me start with few good things here You guys are amazing helping and providing tweaks for us:good:
I am Nexus user. I have Installed Custom Recovery, Flashed ROMs and rooted my Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. This is my First Samsung Tablet. I have waited enough for Nexus 10 (2). I finally bought SM-P600.
I was trying to find an Guide with links for Unlocking bootloader and Updating firmware and then flash Custom recovery for this but coudnt figure it out
I have been reading lots of things about Knox and counters related to it.
Can anyone Please help me find answers straight.
1) Any Rooting and Custom Recovery tools or ADB commands without Hitting the KNOX counter {Just In case IF I wanted to return it} If not then which one you recommend ?
By the Way I found few posts related to Rooting Which has confused me more. I used to use Chainfire SUROOT:
Rooting using CF-AUTO Root
Universal Root de la Vega
2) If I Root and want to use Stock ROM of SM-P600 will all apps work normally or any known issues with it ?
3) Is Odin any tool which everyone is taking about ? I am not sure about it Can you provide any links to its dev for more info. Found it about in a Post to return to STOCK ?
4) Are these ROMS and apps Odexed or Deodexed ROM?
5) Any Dependencies for Firmware and with any of the above questions. I mean In Universal Root I saw they were talking about certain version of firmware. Also Should I update the latest firmware and do a Nandriod backup ?
6) Also read that once KNOX counter goes up, I wont get any OTA ? My Plan is I will use it till next Nexus and will give it to parents with stock ROM. If I am using I can always use an Custom Rom and get updates. But for parents I want to return it to stock so that they can easily update when OTA is available.
I would like to make one more suggestion to MOD's Please Pin the Guides like the Rooting and stuff like Return to Stock which are quite common and useful so that its easy for newbies( aka for Samsung) like me.
Thanks
Zaib.
1. This is not really a single question with a single answer I think vaguely what you are asking is if you can root without tripping knox?
Nope. Not at this time.
2. If you use CF-Auto-Root you'll likely find that the vast majority of applications keep working without issue. Of those that don't, a handful you can manage back to a working state with various tweaks, but there are a few that are probably gone for good. You can basically kiss all the Samsung hub apps goodbye, these will start claiming they are not supported in your country even if they were working perfectly prior to rooting, some may continue working for a short time after but eventually something leaks and your access is cut. Screen mirroring will no longer work though this can be fixed with a small zip file flash. OTA updates are also gone.
Forget all the talk about 'triangle away' fixing any of this, it hasn't for me.
3. Odin is a tool that is able to flash firmware files or parts thereof to your device. Heimdall is an alternative suite of applications, while there is a GUI for it, it seems fairly hit and miss on Linux these days, I've never had much luck with it, on the other hand the command line tools work perfectly fine.
Once you trip Knox, there's no turning back! You won't lose your warranty in any meaningful way, but you may end up having to argue about it and drag in government regulators to get your tablet repaired free of charge depending on the dealer response.
4. I don't think this is particularly relevant to the SM-P600. My subjective opinion would be to stick with the bog standard Samsung ROM. If you want cool themes there are a multitude of launchers, Xposed takes care most other things you might ever care to tweak.
5. You have one choice. CF-Auto-Root. Backups are healthy.
6. True, but you'll still be able to flash via Odin so it doesn't really mean much of anything. Once you trip Knox, you can also kiss OTA updates goodbye as well.
What to do
My tab crash while flashing twrp
A.ratyan said:
What to do
My tab crash while flashing twrp
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How are you flashing TWRP, through recovery or Odin?
Hi guys,
I am new to the xda forums and I have been researching about rooting my note 10.1 2014 p600 (WIFI). I have three questions about rooting my device.
1. How would I update my tab with root? I heard you can't get OTA updates.
2. What is the best and safest way to root?
3. How do I get TWRP and is it good?
I haven't installed knox on it yet and I am a beginner to linux and have done research so I know what root is.
dudeian said:
Hi guys,
I am new to the xda forums and I have been researching about rooting my note 10.1 2014 p600 (WIFI). I have three questions about rooting my device.
1. How would I update my tab with root? I heard you can't get OTA updates.
2. What is the best and safest way to root?
3. How do I get TWRP and is it good?
I haven't installed knox on it yet and I am a beginner to linux and have done research so I know what root is.
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Ok, First, for the p600 if you root, you will trip Knox which will void your warranty and there is no way around this and this is the only way to root your model (p600), If you don't care about warranty then continue...
1) Download this file https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11938873/CF-Auto-Root-lt03wifi-lt03wifixx-smp600.zip then unzip, you will see this file CF-Auto-Root-lt03wifi-lt03wifixx-smp600.tar.md5.
2) Turn Off Tablet, Hold Volume Down + Power. Follow the instructions on the screen to get to download mode (Odin mode).
Rooting Instructions
1.Flash the CF-Auto-Root-lt03wifi-lt03wifixx-smp600.tar.md5 file with Odin v3.09 (put in AP slot, don't change any other settings, click start)
2.Let it do its trick! boot up then go to play store download and install supersu in order to update supersu to the latest binary.
3. Boot back into Odin mode and flash TWRP version 2.6.3.3 found here https://goo.im/devs/OpenRecovery/lt03wifiue/
That's all!
buhohitr said:
Ok, First, for the p600 if you root, you will trip Knox which will void your warranty and there is no way around this and this is the only way to root your model (p600), If you don't care about warranty then continue...
1) Download this file then unzip, you will see this file CF-Auto-Root-lt03wifi-lt03wifixx-smp600.tar.md5.
2) Turn Off Tablet, Hold Volume Down + Power. Follow the instructions on the screen to get to download mode (Odin mode).
Rooting Instructions
1.Flash the CF-Auto-Root-lt03wifi-lt03wifixx-smp600.tar.md5 file with Odin v3.09 (put in AP slot, don't change any other settings, click start)
2.Let it do its trick! boot up then go to play store download and install supersu in order to update supersu to the latest binary.
3. Boot back into Odin mode and flash TWRP version 2.6.3.3 found here
That's all!
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Thanks! This is great help.
buhohitr said:
Ok, First, for the p600 if you root, you will trip Knox which will void your warranty and there is no way around this and this is the only way to root your model (p600), If you don't care about warranty then continue...
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Knox is just a shortcut to the install link, Does this mean it's not installed or is the shortcut just extras (I don't know how to post screenshots).
dudeian said:
Knox is just a shortcut to the install link, Does this mean it's not installed or is the shortcut just extras (I don't know how to post screenshots).
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I don't understand what you are saying???
When I said tripped Knox void warranty is that your device detected that you installed unauthorized software which tripped the knox counter. You can see this by boot into download mode (Odin mode) and you should see a line like this:
Warranty bit: 1 (factory is 0x0)
I hope that what you're asking!
buhohitr said:
I don't understand what you are saying???
When I said tripped Knox void warranty is that your device detected that you installed unauthorized software which tripped the knox counter. You can see this by boot into download mode (Odin mode) and you should see a line like this:
Warranty bit: 1 (factory is 0x0)
I hope that what you're asking!
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Yup.
ok, now i'm getting confused.
my p600 is still on 4.3 jellybean. but from what i read, as long as did not update to kitkat firmware, i can still unroot and reverse the warranty bit bcoz they don't have knox yet. but it'll be too late if i updated to kikat right? btw, i used cf-auto-root.
just weeks ago i rooted my p600 and flashed stock recovery, so now my p600 thinks its stock official firmware, even say so in about device.
i haven't tried unrooting it yet to confirm that i can get warrenty back by flashing back whole stock firmware bcoz i don't want to redo all settings again. but thats the impression i'm geting.
anyhow if i can't really reverse that warranty thing i don't really care anyways. i warranty my stuff better than they do it, and since i think i can still get updates, it bothers me even less if its unreversible. but in the case if i'm right, and i can reverse that warranty bit. maybe one day i'd like to update to kitkat. then what? i'll have to have knox in my system and i can't reverse warranty counter anymore?
is there a way i can update to a custom kikat firmware (one day) and not have knox so i'll still be able to get warranty back?
i kind of realized the dilemma i have here since if i own the device for more than a yr, my warranty wouldn't matter anymore. am i just thinking too much and worrying myself?
kazukiflame said:
ok, now i'm getting confused.
my p600 is still on 4.3 jellybean. but from what i read, as long as did not update to kitkat firmware, i can still unroot and reverse the warranty bit bcoz they don't have knox yet. but it'll be too late if i updated to kikat right? btw, i used cf-auto-root.
just weeks ago i rooted my p600 and flashed stock recovery, so now my p600 thinks its stock official firmware, even say so in about device.
i haven't tried unrooting it yet to confirm that i can get warrenty back by flashing back whole stock firmware bcoz i don't want to redo all settings again. but thats the impression i'm geting.
anyhow if i can't really reverse that warranty thing i don't really care anyways. i warranty my stuff better than they do it, and since i think i can still get updates, it bothers me even less if its unreversible. but in the case if i'm right, and i can reverse that warranty bit. maybe one day i'd like to update to kitkat. then what? i'll have to have knox in my system and i can't reverse warranty counter anymore?
is there a way i can update to a custom kikat firmware (one day) and not have knox so i'll still be able to get warranty back?
i kind of realized the dilemma i have here since if i own the device for more than a yr, my warranty wouldn't matter anymore. am i just thinking too much and worrying myself?
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Yes you're confused!!. Knox has nothing to do with warranty bit, once this tripped, you can't undo doesn't matter you on 4.3 or 4.4.
I'm a little confused on a few other issues. I have read over 40 pages on another thread here about rooting etc and I couldn't find the answer to a few questions. I've just successfully rooted using the most recent instructions (P600 - CF Auto root) but in earlier instructions (about a year ago) you had to also install the stock recovery file using Odin. Is that a necessary step? Is it needed for OTA updates? Since I've read that OTA updates will unroot and possibly prevent you from rooting at all, is it best to just forget about OTAs and flash up to date files from this site? Is it also prudent to turn off auto updating in the settings.
If I'm not installing custom roms and backed up using Titanium Pro do I really need to install TWRP? Any other benefits other than nandroid? Thanks
jbarr3 said:
I'm a little confused on a few other issues. I have read over 40 pages on another thread here about rooting etc and I couldn't find the answer to a few questions. I've just successfully rooted using the most recent instructions (P600 - CF Auto root) but in earlier instructions (about a year ago) you had to also install the stock recovery file using Odin. Is that a necessary step? Is it needed for OTA updates? Since I've read that OTA updates will unroot and possibly prevent you from rooting at all, is it best to just forget about OTAs and flash up to date files from this site? Is it also prudent to turn off auto updating in the settings.
If I'm not installing custom roms and backed up using Titanium Pro do I really need to install TWRP? Any other benefits other than nandroid? Thanks
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Once you rooted you can't use OTA update any more. So the easiest going forward is to flash TWRP and use it to flash pre-rooted rom from this site.
Thanks buhohitr
I guess I'm installing TWRP tonight. There are many versions up to 2.8 I think. Which one do you recommend for P600? I've tried searching for "installing TWRP" but there were no obvious hits like there were for rooting. Which is the key thread?
To my first question, I'm assuming that the later root methods automatically installs or leaves the stock recovery as earlier methods needed to load it. Am I right?
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I've tried searching for "installing TWRP" but there were no obvious hits like there were for rooting.
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OK found the thread and I just read the last 55 pages (that took a while) and boy is it scary. So many problems. Touch not accurate, inverted screens, certain versions failing eg 2.7, can't access external SD card, continual looping, booting into the old recovery , OTG cables not working, time zones can't be set properly, some say turn off autoboot in odin and some say don't change default settings etc etc. the list goes on and on. I likened it to a bushfire or tornado. Some houses still stand and some don't and you want to know the silly thing here, I am an experienced computer teacher with a degree in computer science and I've upgraded firmware on over a hundred devices over the years and yet all this rooting and recovery stuff is another world. The rooting process, admittedly, was a piece of cake and the instructions for flashing TWRP seems easy too but after that there seems to be so many problems. So hit and miss.
All i want to do is load TWRP on a P600. I will only load custom ROMs when a new firmware version comes out. Can someone alleviate my fears who has successfully loaded TWRP recently on a P600 using ODIN without massive tweaking to get it going. What version TWRP did you use and did you turn off autoboot or not?
PS Have I posted this in the correct section?
Took the plunge and loaded the latest TWRP 2.8.1 and it worked perfectly except I could only back to the main SD storage and not my extSD. I ended up, as a work around, moving the backup files to the extSD drive and PC.
I think I was worried unnecessarily.