A lot of people have seen the links on WPCentral and WMPowerUser for force updating to Tango using the cab sender method.
I've been posting in that thread since yesterday and I'm seeing countless people messing up their phones by (a) not using the cab sender tool to make a backup before sending the updates or (b) not installing the language packs with the update or not installing the correct language packs.
The other thing people should be aware of is that for some people the update is removing INTEROP unlock. If you have a very recent Samsung firmware there may be no way to unlock again.
Tango adds very few features. Location awareness icon is not there. Export to SIM only appears to be there for a select few. Unless MMS is something that your life depends on, wait until more work can be done by the developer community analyzing what effects the 8112 and 8773 updates have on all the different phones & variations (carrier/unbranded) thereof.
EDIT: One user with a Dell Venue Pro has most probably irreversibly bricked his phone by applying the update.
If you want to force the update, try it:
http://www.wp7connect.com/2012/06/28/how-to-force-tango-update-on-your-device/
Worked for me. Needed two updates. The second one was 8773, then I received Nokia firmware.
i don't understand how those steps are able to work. if the wlan connection is killed while zune is searching for an update it returns a 'can't check for updates right now' error.
If you do it the right timing, it will stop the checking of the phone carrier etc. So thats something like
Connect to server > Check Atual Version > Check Last Version Available > Check if allowed to update > Update
When you kill the wlan, you are supposed to it exactly in the part that check if you are allowed to update. When it doesnt receive a response from server, it just update. Basically, you jump one step.
And it works perfectly. I've done this with Mango, now I done this with Tango too. Believe, it's not troll.
Another method is to count how much time it takes to answer you that your software is up to date. And then take 1-3 seconds off. That's when you have to disconnect. So you keep trying alternating the time you disconnect your pc.
thanks for the explanation of the sequencing.
i love wp7, and the lumia has been great...but i think it's a bit strange that updates are via zune software only, yet they stripped the marketplace accessibility functions from that same software making them ota only. sorry for the stray OT.
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If you do it the right timing, it will stop the checking of the phone carrier etc. So thats something like
Connect to server > Check Atual Version > Check Last Version Available > Check if allowed to update > Update
When you kill the wlan, you are supposed to it exactly in the part that check if you are allowed to update. When it doesnt receive a response from server, it just update. Basically, you jump one step.
And it works perfectly. I've done this with Mango, now I done this with Tango too. Believe, it's not troll.
Another method is to count how much time it takes to answer you that your software is up to date. And then take 1-3 seconds off. That's when you have to disconnect. So you keep trying alternating the time you disconnect your pc.
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i did what you said and it worked :O thanks
stewpeanut said:
thanks for the explanation of the sequencing.
i love wp7, and the lumia has been great...but i think it's a bit strange that updates are via zune software only, yet they stripped the marketplace accessibility functions from that same software making them ota only. sorry for the stray OT.
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WP 8 is going to have OTA update. And a rumour that 7.8 too (I dont know what for. Will MS release updates after 7.8 to 1st and 2nd generation?). But I think the Kernel CE is the one to blame here. Its not a big problem for me. You will have like 2~3 updates in one year. That gives one update every 4 months or 6 months. I dont mind connecting my WP to computer.
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i did what you said and it worked :O thanks
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Yw! Tango has fixed some dirty language bugs for me!
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i did what you said and it worked :O thanks
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on what carrier are you?
It worked for my carrier unlocked Samsung Focus.
At first I installed the OS updates (4), then I tried to install the 5 lenguages that my phone needed but an error prevented that, so after I tried to install only my main lenguage and it worked!
I agree, it's not really worth it, I use the MMS feature, but this cab update method it's not very stable in all phones.
I finally couldn't take the disappearing keyboard issue on my HTC HD7s. As far as I read, AT&Crap had no intention of providing that update, or Tango for that matter. I followed the steps for the cab loading updates and they worked fine. Haven't noticed any adverse effects for the past few days. Now I just bide my time until my contract ends so I can grab whatever decent WP8 phones that come out.
We've been doing force update thing from the Mango days. It's a easy process *IF* people follow the directions. It does work but, you must have the correct language packs/files to install with it.
It also could remove your Unlock.
If you READ THE DIRECTIONS and RE-READ THE DIRECTIONS, then FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS you should be fine.
It's people who are in a rush who brick or screw up their phone.
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I finally couldn't take the disappearing keyboard issue on my HTC HD7s. As far as I read, AT&Crap had no intention of providing that update, or Tango for that matter. I followed the steps for the cab loading updates and they worked fine. Haven't noticed any adverse effects for the past few days. Now I just bide my time until my contract ends so I can grab whatever decent WP8 phones that come out.
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I read a few comments on wpcentral that AT&T people with devices such as the Focus Flash have received the update through regular means/disconnecting from network while updating method.
Lg optimus 7
Question about the Tango update...
On My Lg it went smooth... i see sms picture, video that i can attach, but i have ringtone in place of voicenotes ??
Anyone else experience this?
Tango on at&t Lumia 900???
So is there any confirmation that people are able to do the Tango update on the Lumia 900 on at&t via the disconnect internet trick? I've tried a couple of times and been unsuccessful. I don't want to waste my time continuing if it won't work.
akizmaj said:
Question about the Tango update...
On My Lg it went smooth... i see sms picture, video that i can attach, but i have ringtone in place of voicenotes ??
Anyone else experience this?
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Yep I only have pictures/video enabled,anyone knows how to enable voicenotes?
After several attempts finally got the prompt for update OS to 7.10.8112 however the update was unsuccessful!! Did it 2nd time but again the update was unsuccessful???
Not sure why it's doing this? If I cannot update to 7.10.8112 then I cannot update to Tango 7.10.8773.98
Has anyone else experienced this on unlocked European Titan? If it helps I'm currently on OS version 7.10.8107.79 and with Bootloader version 2.6
What is your free space on your:
a) PC?
b) phone?
Also it should say some error number.
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What is your free space on your:
a) PC?
b) phone?
Also it should say some error number.
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Have enough space on my laptop more then 50g and have around 5.95gb of free space on my handset.
Yes there was a error code displayed but remember what it was? I'll try again tonight after work and post here with the error code.
edit: "deleted"
No Voice Note on 8773
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Yep I only have pictures/video enabled,anyone knows how to enable voicenotes?
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I followed cab sender method, which seemed to work fine. However, I also do not have Voice Note, instead I have Ringtone.
Any ideas? How do we enable Voice MMS? Is it a Carrier-restricted aspect?
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I, like many have been eagerly waiting for the 'Nodo' update to appear in my Zune installation on my home PC. But unfortunately I've had no luck so far with Zune and my phone both reporting my phone is up to date, with 7.0.7008.0 as the latest.
However when I plugged in my phone into my work PC (with a different internet connection, OS, but same version of Zune) it detected there was an phone update. Unfortunately I can't install it because work block access to Windows Update service. Under the settings menu, my phone did then report there was an update.
However, when plugging it back into my home PC, my phone and Zune reverts back to saying there is no update and 7.0.7008.0 is the latest!
Weird.
Can you do a copy/paste ?
He just got done with his story about how he can't get the update and you ask him if he can copy/paste?!?!?!
ahahahaha....hahahaha
Confirmed.
After i have read your Thread i have try it with diffrent options.
I have try it many times, my personal computer have on three diffrent location no update receive.
My company Laptop have on two diffrent location no update receive, but after i logged into the Company Network via VPN i get the message update available.
I have try it many times disconnect "no update" VPN every time "Update available".
Very Strange, but now i happy (and i have now copy&Paste)
what what what????
i doooont understand!!!! XDDD
explain more clearly so i can replicate the procedure identically!!!
i got the update a couple of days ago,unbranded omnia,but i already had copy and paste since i got the device a couple of weeks ago.
So it will work with some random vpn?
kindly explain further the situation.. thanks!
Talking about weirdness... I got prompted for NoDo today, was busy so decided to postpone.
Came back an hour later on the same PC and nothing. Zune says I'm up to date with version 7.0 (7008).
Can you guys all mention a device name along with a carrier
country etc.?
I tend to get some false hope everytime I read a story of people getting NODO successfully.
magicsgram said:
Can you guys all mention a device name along with a carrier
country etc.?
I tend to get some false hope everytime I read a story of people getting NODO successfully.
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Well these are not exactly succesful stories are they?
Just for the record I have an unbranded Omnia 7 still not updated.
there is a thread that specifies carriers and location already here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12401645#post12401645
Ok... Can you guys tell me how did you do the VPN so I can try and get the update... I dont have patience for this stupid update. I want it now!!! But seriously how did you guys do the VPN? =)
Well, theoretically you could use something like usaip.eu , which simply let's you vpn to places all over the world (with a free account only for 7 minutes before having to redial, but that should be enough).
I tried it and I still don't have nodo, only pre-NoDo (which I got the day it was released).
I have an LG Optimus 7, which originally was branded by vodafone, but I removed the branding via the registry (I tried the update with and without the carrier info). I live in Germany.
Good luck!
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Talking about weirdness... I got prompted for NoDo today, was busy so decided to postpone.
Came back an hour later on the same PC and nothing. Zune says I'm up to date with version 7.0 (7008).
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Lol, how is this even possible? Is MS having a time limit or something, like "here you go, the Nodo, take it while you have the chance, it will end in 5 minutes and then you'll have to wait another week until next chance shows up!"
Halle said:
Lol, how is this even possible? Is MS having a time limit or something, like "here you go, the Nodo, take it while you have the chance, it will end in 5 minutes and then you'll have to wait another week until next chance shows up!"
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Yeah that's just ridiculous, I don't get it.
However I tried the freeVPN solution, with no luck. Maybe I should try om my GFs Macbook? You never know...
none of these VPN things work. I tried here in our office in IBM Philippines.. LOL nothing works...
I checked for updates several times and tried all tricks available without success, zune said I was up to date with 7008 firmware. I then did a factory reset, connected with zune and straight away I got the update. Omnia 7 unlocked (original 3 branded but flashed with XENJK1 firmware) on Telia in Sweden.
Connection Setup is back in the marketplace, under HTC Apps as before.
Current version is 1.12 (build 2119.18323). I saw it because I was prompted to update.
This version *DOES* process \Windows\CustClear.proxml still, assuming you don't have the latest HTC Updates (the Mango ones). Therefore, it's usable for interop-unlock on HTC phones if you can upgrade to Mango without getting the HTC updates (try U2M7720 or just send the CABs directly).
Thought you all would like to know!
I thought that interop-unlock is for Samsung,even though you even have connection setup you can't fully unlock your HTC device with interop-unlock in your device.
Interop-unlock just means having the MaxUnsignedApp value above 300 in the registry. This allows installing and running apps with ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Samsung or any other phone.
Heathcliff74 has released instructions for interop-unlock on LG phones, and an app for Samsung phones. The app is called "Interop-unlock" because that's what it does, but there's other ways to do it. Several other people have given instructions for doing it on HTC phones. It requires three things, though:
A CustClear.provxml file in the Windows folder. This typically means you have to roll back to pre-Mango to put the file there.
A working Marketplace (not sideloaded) copy of Connection Setup, which can process the CustClear.provxml file.
A working HTCFileUtility.dll driver, which typically means upgrading to Mango *WITHOUT* getting the HTC update that comes bundled with it (on HTC phones). You can do this by upgrading using U2M7720, or by deploying the update cabs directly, or by using a custom ROM (though those typically come already interop-unlocked).
After that, the steps are simple: place the CustClear.provxml file that will provision the registry value as needed, upgrade to Mango (sans HTC update), and run Connection Setup. The problem for a lot of people recently was that HTC pulled the Connection Setup app from the marketplace for a few weeks. This post was to let everybody know that it was back, and that it could still be used for unlock.
GoodDayToDie said:
Connection Setup is back in the marketplace, under HTC Apps as before.
Current version is 1.12 (build 2119.18323). I saw it because I was prompted to update.
This version *DOES* process \Windows\CustClear.proxml still, assuming you don't have the latest HTC Updates (the Mango ones). Therefore, it's usable for interop-unlock on HTC phones if you can upgrade to Mango without getting the HTC updates (try U2M7720 or just send the CABs directly).
Thought you all would like to know!
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So I had HTC Connection Setup v1.2 Build 2020.30266 on my unlocked phone by Ansar method (Mango) and the question is: should I update Connection Setup?????
Any unexpected problems will appear or not?
And how to cancel that suggested update????
Im on nodo and not seeing it. ugh. anyone else in the same situation?
GoodDayToDie said:
Connection Setup is back in the marketplace, under HTC Apps as before.
Current version is 1.12 (build 2119.18323). I saw it because I was prompted to update.
This version *DOES* process \Windows\CustClear.proxml still, assuming you don't have the latest HTC Updates (the Mango ones). Therefore, it's usable for interop-unlock on HTC phones if you can upgrade to Mango without getting the HTC updates (try U2M7720 or just send the CABs directly).
Thought you all would like to know!
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Why would HTC put this app back (which doesn't work if you have the HTC update BTW; tried it)? I don't understand HTC re-releasing their app for their HTC devices where it doesn't work with their HTC updates
I have a CustClear file sitting there since I upgraded the OEM route weeks ago (put it in the windows directory in NoDo and did not run/install CS until at final and it did not work; app was removed from MP, now released again and still doesn't work).
It's working for it's original purpose.
Im on Orange Network in the UK and i cant see it yet
Hopefully its just taking its time to filter through as ive held off on build 7403 untill this becomes available again so i can finally upgrade to mango and be interop unlocked,
its been a long wait! lol
Wait. We do not know if it has the same exploits
jdbastardy said:
Wait. We do not know if it has the same exploits
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Well according to the OP it is ok to use
GoodDayToDie said:
This version *DOES* process \Windows\CustClear.proxml still, assuming you don't have the latest HTC Updates (the Mango ones). Therefore, it's usable for interop-unlock on HTC phones if you can upgrade to Mango without getting the HTC updates (try U2M7720 or just send the CABs directly).
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Yep ok... I hope it will work even with the updates.
dingodog said:
Im on Orange Network in the UK and i cant see it yet
Hopefully its just taking its time to filter through as ive held off on build 7403 untill this becomes available again so i can finally upgrade to mango and be interop unlocked,
its been a long wait! lol
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I hear ya!
I'm starting to wonder if it will show up in the marketplace if youre not on mango.
I checked the marketplace and its still not there. Also the phone prompted me that an update is available (which it usually only did when I was connected to zune)
So any ideas anyone?
I cant use U2M7720 to upgrade I get a warning that the carrier is not in the database.
Just FYI, the app isn't working at all on an HTC Arrive (GoldC). Says it isn't supported by my device.
@atm153: That's unfortunately expected. It only works on GSM devices, and the Arrive is pure CDMA.
Folks on NoDo/7403: Not sure why it's not showing up. If it's targeted for Mango only, that would be... rude.
Folks asking if it works with the latest HTC updates (the Mango ones): Yes if you're asking "Will it set up my connection?" and No if you're asking "Will it unlock my phone?" This is the same as before.
Folks asking if it's safe to update: It appears to be just fine. However, if you're feeling paranoid, create a backup image (restore point). I had just created one for an unrelated purpose, and so was not afraid to test.
Hope that answers all of your questions...
I had HTC Connection setup on my cdma device about 4 months ago and unfortunately deleted it. It worked fine then, it was downloaded from the marketplace.
Really, Jay? That's interesting, it's been reported many times to not work on the Arrive. It works on Verizon's Trophy because that phone has both CDMA and GSM.
Give the new version a shot, I guess... but I wouldn't expect much.
I dont know if this will help anyone as i cant test it but here is a version that i had from a while back. Just thought someone may can use it?
GoodDayToDie said:
Really, Jay? That's interesting, it's been reported many times to not work on the Arrive. It works on Verizon's Trophy because that phone has both CDMA and GSM.
Give the new version a shot, I guess... but I wouldn't expect much.
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New release of CS does not work on the Verizon Trophy Mango 7720.68 - the carrier is not in the database error comes up.
Huh... are you installing it from Marketplace or via sideloading? I expect that error if you sideload it.
Works on my HD7, but then I also have avoided the latest HTC updates so my phone still has a working HTCFileUtility driver (allows TouchXplorer to work). If I break that driver (manually, without updating) and try to use Connection Setup, I get the same error that you're reporting. It would be fantastically stupid of them to release a version that's incompatible with their own update, but I thought it was pretty dumb to pull it in the first place too (the app has a pretty important legit use...)
I got the phone in feb so im guessing i downloaded it off the market in march or april. I downloaded all the free htc apps to mess around with. What was really odd was when i set it to sprint it messed up everything. When i set it to verizon everything was back to normal. Had i known i wouldve never deleted it.
WMPoweruser.com reports in this article that Microsoft has begun rolling out an update to OS version 7.10.8107.79 which includes the following:
It solves a problem of the keyboard on the screen, preventing the keyboard to disappear while typing
Resolves an issue with syncing Gmail
It solves a problem of access to the location. After the upgrade, the function IO hub sends to Microsoft anonymous information contact the Wi-Fi access points and antennas for mobile phones in the vicinity, only if you have allowed access to and use of location information from part of the "I’m here."
Revocation of certificates issued by DigiCert Sdn Bhd to solve a problem of encryption
Fixes a problem with the e-mail related to Microsoft Exchange Server 2003. When you reply to or forward an email, the original message is now included in the response.
Fixes an issue of notification of voicemail
Under Cellular Network, 3G Toggle Button is dropped off and replaced by a drop-down where you can select betwen 3G and Edge or any other you have. This is now called as Speed Connection.
according to a tweet by Chris Walsh - part of the Chevron team - the issue that a certain SMS could shutdown the whole WP messaging services seems to have been fixed as well: Link
If anyone gets it, please packet sniff and post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
I bet AT&T will wait for Tango, haha
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I bet AT&T will wait for Tango, haha
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I doubt it. They will likely wait for Apollo...about 3 or 4 months after it's official release, that is.
jessenic said:
If anyone gets it, please packet sniff and post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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*cab files already exist:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21028452&postcount=281
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21028452&postcount=282
Thank god for this update. I was giving up on my WP
Sent from my Venue Pro using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
No internet sharing? Anything else worth while? Will this remove any hacks, unlocks?
sinister1 said:
No internet sharing? Anything else worth while? Will this remove any hacks, unlocks?
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Internet Sharing was part of the Mango update. If it's not enabled on your device, you'll need a firmware update with the appropriate drivers from your OEM. As far as I've heard (or to be more precise read), hacks and/or unlocks won't be affected by this new OS update.
dkp1977 said:
Internet Sharing was part of the Mango update. If it's not enabled on your device, you'll need a firmware update with the appropriate drivers from your OEM. As far as I've heard (or to be more precise read), hacks and/or unlocks won't be affected by this new OS update.
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Thanks dkp1977, and now where to get it???
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I bet AT&T will wait for Tango, haha
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Yeah. Still on 7720 here. Didn't even get 7740.
hd7 custom tom
Still custom roms are in 7740 I hope new custom roms in nextgen+
Hey i got a question, anyone using att samsung focus has got this update?
Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express
nope I didn't recieve it, in fact I'm still on 7720 Focus 1.3 Sim unlocked
UPDATE====================
Just updated using Cab sender method at first to 7740 and then to 8107 and everything is fine no bugs noticed
anyone with a samsung omnia 7 got this update?
idont think so...maybe later this day ms will open more gates...till now only lg optimus 7 with vodafone branding receive this update...i dont have read that other phones become it till now...but not sure..omnia 7 unbranded ...
gesendet von meinem omnia7
tooly26 said:
idont think so...maybe later this day ms will open more gates...till now only lg optimus 7 with vodafone branding receive this update...i dont have read that other phones become it till now...but not sure..omnia 7 unbranded ...
gesendet von meinem omnia7
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I thought Nokias would be getting this update as well.
No access to Mobile Network in Settings
I'm using an LG Optimus 7 on Vodafone UK and set the cab to my device.
It accepted the update and everything seems fine although I now cannot access the Mobile Network settings - it starts to open, you get the transition and then it just snaps back.
Anyone know how I can get it back via a registry tweak or whatever?
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I'm using an LG Optimus 7 on Vodafone UK and set the cab to my device.
It accepted the update and everything seems fine although I now cannot access the Mobile Network settings - it starts to open, you get the transition and then it just snaps back.
Anyone know how I can get it back via a registry tweak or whatever?
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Did you send all the language pack updates along with the OS update?
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Did you send all the language pack updates along with the OS update?
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Ah - looked at my downloads folder and I'd missed one - working fine now. Thanks
Looks like the update made the official Windows Phone site. Hopefully they update the "Where's My Update" section soon
Microsoft has announced they will no longer document update releases by carriers, but this is still useful information, so now we must keep track ourselves to know which carriers are lagging behind.
Feel free to edit this spreadsheet when you have received an update notice on your carrier (no login required):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuPW6_Ouc0FidG53dGQ1al9JbGtQWnQ2TTR2Q1pGaGc
Cheers
Looks Great. Although I would suggest that they are completly sorted by Country, then Carrier and then device I guess this is fine for a first version.
Maybe someone can add these changes later with the help of this forum.
Anyway, today I received 8107 but only after using the cable/network disconnect trick on my PC. Should I still mark it as delivering update?
As long as you haven't changed your branding or your ROM to a different carrier, then you can add that your carrier is delivering the update.
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Looks Great. Although I would suggest that they are completly sorted by Country, then Carrier and then device I guess this is fine for a first version.
Maybe someone can add these changes later with the help of this forum.
Anyway, today I received 8107 but only after using the cable/network disconnect trick on my PC. Should I still mark it as delivering update?
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hi, what phone model ? Branded or unbrander ?
I have a titan unbranded, I have try the disconnect trick but it does not work :-(
iosub said:
hi, what phone model ? Branded or unbrander ?
I have a titan unbranded, I have try the disconnect trick but it does not work :-(
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Unbranded probably wont get the update as there is no one to request it for you! I think that is how it is. I've forced the update on my Titan and worked perfectly fine. Very simple steps. There is link etc in the Titan forum as well as here somewhere.
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Unbranded probably wont get the update as there is no one to request it for you! I think that is how it is. I've forced the update on my Titan and worked perfectly fine. Very simple steps. There is link etc in the Titan forum as well as here somewhere.
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hi the trick is to disconnect the WiFi (1-2 sec) on the PC after click update,right?
btw, do you have the wifi or 3g on, in the phone?
thanks
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hi, what phone model ? Branded or unbrander ?
I have a titan unbranded, I have try the disconnect trick but it does not work :-(
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I have a Vodafone Germany branded LG E900.
iosub said:
hi the trick is to disconnect the WiFi (1-2 sec) on the PC after click update,right?
btw, do you have the wifi or 3g on, in the phone?
thanks
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You disconnect your PC from the Internet (in my case via network cable) shortly after you start searching for updates via Zune. I actually disconnected about 5 seconds after searching started, but you can try out what works for you.
I had WiFi enabled and cellular data connection disabled (no 3G and no EDGE), although I only disabled cellular data due to my prepaid flat expiring.
can confirm that unbranded/open market phones not get the 8107 update
omnia 7 -> no update availible in germany, even with cable trick, no chance.
dell venue pro -> no update avaible in germany, even with cable trick, no chance
both no carrier brandings.
I am pissed a lot about microsofts way to schedule udpates to the people, nobody knows where and why any update will arive and there are everywhere anoyiing bugs in wp (keyboard) -> user experience is an F
What does it mean, open phones no update??? no update now, or no update never ever?? Anyway, we pay more for a open phone, to get more updates and even sooner, and at the end, we are the last.
0711 said:
can confirm that unbranded/open market phones not get the 8107 update
omnia 7 -> no update availible in germany, even with cable trick, no chance.
dell venue pro -> no update avaible in germany, even with cable trick, no chance
both no carrier brandings.
I am pissed a lot about microsofts way to schedule udpates to the people, nobody knows where and why any update will arive and there are everywhere anoyiing bugs in wp (keyboard) -> user experience is an F
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What does it mean, open phones no update??? no update now, or no update never ever?? Anyway, we pay more for a open phone, to get more updates and even sooner, and at the end, we are the last.
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I think open phones now get the updates much easily! We only need one carrier to release update and then using cab sender it updates right away! I did that with my unbranded Titan and it only took 8-9 minutes from point A to point B!
there is currectly no update delivery, maybe in the future but if you see microsoft community manager any carrier has to request the update ... but theres no carrier for open market phones, whats the obvious? Open market phones dont receive this update ever and get it maybe with the next (tango?) update.
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@joebelfiore my HTC titan is unbranded #wp7 how can I get the 8107 update If is carried depended ?
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drupad2drupad said:
I think open phones now get the updates much easily! We only need one carrier to release update and then using cab sender it updates right away! I did that with my unbranded Titan and it only took 8-9 minutes from point A to point B!
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I think that is a dangerous method.. If you don't update all the language cabs..
You may not get next HTC update..
So open phones users, we are screwed or what? i got the 7740 update right away. but until now no theethering for example.
yes this is the actual situation, some unbranded phones may not become wlan tethering because it depends on carrier request and dont get the 8107 update (on the official way...with hacks you can have both but this is not the point why i choose windows phone)
sad to see microsoft destroys its own system and screw away their fans
I've got a Samsung Focus (originally a Rogers phone) unlocked and using on Bell Canada network.
I did the wifi disconnect trick and got the 7740 update...doesn't this mean Roger is delivering it?
0711 said:
yes this is the actual situation, some unbranded phones may not become wlan tethering because it depends on carrier request and dont get the 8107 update (on the official way...with hacks you can have both but this is not the point why i choose windows phone)
sad to see microsoft destroys its own system and screw away their fans
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for tethering you need OEM driver update it's not only OS depended
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Samsung had the driver ready even before Mango started rolling out. In the official rollout drivers update was already softap implemented and working . I got some ROM that had older OEM drivers date than the Mango rollout and it was there too.
On the other hand, HTC was playing bad and didn't include it. No idea how LG and Dell...
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for tethering you need OEM driver update it's not only OS depended
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i know...but if i use hack i can use internet sharing...if i dont, i am not able to use it
even on german telekom the omnia 7 users got internet sharing
i have german telekom sim but unbranded omnia 7 and dont got it
i know that the dell venue pro is not capable for this feature but omnia 7 was before mango!
When i look at 2 friends, one with branded telekom and one unbranded, both got internet sharing and no one can tell why my friend with unbranded got the update and i am not.
its not the lack of the feature, because i dont care about wlan tethering but who pushs the updates? Microsoft and they hold it back, a total inconsistents in the update process...like with 7740 as os update or even more worse the 8107 update
-> tested the cab sender and all seems to be fine for me but restored my backup because i want it on the official way and not this. I paid not only for the device, for the os, too! The update experience is just bull**** with wp, android doin it better because i can choose nexus phone (never thought i say this) and get every update immediatelly and apple do it the best way since now.
Looks like my next phone will be no windows phone, regardless that i like the system but i dont get what was promised and what i get.
The big issue here is how to confirm all this data.
Maybe some of the information is wrong.
I guess I'll try to keep the Sasktel (Canada) section current. I'm guessing there aren't too many Sasktel people on here with windows phones but I could be surprised.
Also +1 on being annoyed with this whole carrier requested updates.
At least we'll be able to come here to see what's officially available.
Hi there
Wondering if any of you kind folks can help me understand what is happening on my phone.
I've a new Nokia Lumia 900 which I've had for about 2 weeks. Unfortunately (rather fortunately!) I won it at a Microsoft event, so I can't exactly take it back to a retailer for repair or question.
My phone seems to intermittently crash. Most times it just reboots but occasionally it's just dead and I have hold down the power button to reset. Anecdotally it seems to happen most when I have WiFi turned on, though it does happen occasionally without WiFi on.
I have reset back to factory setting twice and also turned off all background process I can. Of course there are still a few applications that I can't turn off from running in the background.
Despite this, the phone still crashes A LOT with WiFi on (2 to 6 times a day) and occasionally with WiFi off (once every 2 or three days).
Does anyone know what is happening and how I can find a fix?
PS: Both the phone and Zune report that there are no updates applicable.
Cheers.
Look in settings/about and take note of the Firmware and OS versions and kindly write them down on here, If you have OS ver 8862 then you already have the latest version and need to take your phone to a Nokia Care centre or send for repair as it should not crash at all, If you have a lower ver ie: 8107, 8773 or 8858 then maybe you can force an update through Zune, Which may well fix your issue?
Tried that...
AndyFZ1S said:
Look in settings/about and take note of the Firmware and OS versions and kindly write them down on here, If you have OS ver 8862 then you already have the latest version and need to take your phone to a Nokia Care centre or send for repair as it should not crash at all, If you have a lower ver ie: 8107, 8773 or 8858 then maybe you can force an update through Zune, Which may well fix your issue?
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Thanks for your reply Andy
I did exactly that, checked the OS version, and I discovered that I did NOT have the latest OS version but Zune reported I did.
As a result I contacted Nokia to explain the difference in OS version availability published on the Australian support site vs the fact that Zune reports the OS version is up to date. I was told that not all OS versions are available across all Lumia 900 phones and regions! Er... Whatever...
However, the support staff did recognise I'm having an issue and has lodged a ticket with the "appropriate department". Time will tell how response they are.
I guess I either have to wait for the OS update to be made available to have their support technicians contact me back to resolve the issue.
Either way I will update this thread with the results in case anyone else has a similar issue.
Fingers crossed they get it sorted for you,
However if you do decide to be cheeky there is a way of forcing the update via Zune, As you click update and before it tells you you already have the latest firmware etc you disconnect your lan cable, It is a bit tricky and timing is the key, You may have to try several times etc,
Or as a last resort http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128295
In either case I cannot guarantee it will fix your issue but it could save you from boredom as you await a fix.
AndyFZ1S said:
Fingers crossed they get it sorted for you,
However if you do decide to be cheeky there is a way of forcing the update via Zune, As you click update and before it tells you you already have the latest firmware etc you disconnect your lan cable, It is a bit tricky and timing is the key, You may have to try several times etc,
Or as a last resort http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128295
In either case I cannot guarantee it will fix your issue but it could save you from boredom as you await a fix.
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Ha! Yes.... Well I've not heard anything from them yet. Day 2 so I'm not quite bored yet
However, on a positive note the updates came through tonight via Zune without pulling of LAN cables (ED: read hair), so all's good on that front. Time will tell if the updates solve the problem, but it did 3 cumulative updates so I guess there was a bit to do...
Thanks Andy