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Leaked mango rtm to official update (maybe?)

Hey everybody,
I have an LG optimus 7 on TELUS that is running the leaked RTM. I just checked, and now the update is available. It was unclear if the leaked RTM would update. before i hit the go button.
anything i should do?
fiddler2 or something for cabs.... im not sure but want to make sure i giv devs a chance to get anything they might want.. im not sure how to do this on my own, im great at following directions tho.
*edit*
its called "LG update for windows phone" Im not really sure which update this is. because i don't remember it
*edit*
saved my fiddler2 session if anyone wants it. update went fine. i dont really notice any changes?

I got the same notification of an HTC update for Windows Phone....
I tried to update but got the error code 801811A3
I'm going to uninstall zune and try a fresh install.
Edit: HD7 on Tmobile - Leaked RTM
Edit 2: It's our firewall at work. Go figure. Time to find a workaround for this.
Also, the release page from microsoft for the mango 7.5 release is updated to deploying on all carriers today.

I got thesame for HTC. Mine succeeded and now does not show any further updates... I have checked but... I don't see a difference on my phone...
For those with the Arrive... on the ABOUT option, before the update... is there any information on the "help contacts" part for SPRINT?
Just wondering if this information was there with the leaked RTM...

I have RTM, just got the update notification aswell.
Zune is at stp 6 out of 10 atm.
It failed to reconnect at step 6, so I unplugge the phone and rebooted it, zhile the HTC screen showed I connected the USB cable and it resumed

well.. im not sure if im doing this at all right. installed fiddler2. its running
and im doing the update. so far so good 7 of 10. creating backup.

im guessing everyone who posted so far is carrier unlocked?
maybe be the reason we are seeing the update. even tho we have leaked mango.
almost done, phone is restarting.

Had 7720.68 Leaked RTM, upgraded to Mango carrier release fine.... No issues (besides losing 3G service)

And Walsh tweeted it
Caught it on the web and I immediately took my fedora hdd out of my systems an popped in my win7

I also had the update message and updated via zune. Zune always shows version 7.1, is this OK?
Should i revert to NODO and update again via zune?
Or i'm done?
I have an open/unlocked OMNIA7.
BR, swefla
Sent from my OMNIA7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

swefla said:
I also had the update message and updated via zune. Zune always shows version 7.1, is this OK?
Should i revert to NODO and update again via zune?
Or i'm done?
I have an open/unlocked OMNIA7.
BR, swefla
Sent from my OMNIA7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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I was on 7712 beta and updated through Zune to official 7720.
Before update I was unlocked and I stayed unlocked after the update.

I was on the leaked RTM and got the HTC Update for my Arrive. The only thing that worries me even though this looks like a fully Sprint branded update (as seen from the new support stuff in the About screen) is that it did nothing to remove the "provision" part of the update as talked about in the Windows Phone Blog for updating from 7012. If the move to RTM from 7012 fixed it already, then I am not worries, but if so, us early RTM adopters may just have to jump back to NoDo (since I didn't force an update before going leaked RTM) and get the official updates through that method.
One thing I did notice is I did get various little updates this summer while on the Mango Beta, so device specific updates may have already been done or no others may have been released for the Arrive till today. Hmm.
I just wish they would get the MyPhone ability to backup SMS messages so I can do a clean wipe and not loose every convo I have had (not important generally, but I like to keep them around.)

IM0001 said:
I was on the leaked RTM and got the HTC Update for my Arrive. The only thing that worries me even though this looks like a fully Sprint branded update (as seen from the new support stuff in the About screen) is that it did nothing to remove the "provision" part of the update as talked about in the Windows Phone Blog for updating from 7012. If the move to RTM from 7012 fixed it already, then I am not worries, but if so, us early RTM adopters may just have to jump back to NoDo (since I didn't force an update before going leaked RTM) and get the official updates through that method.
One thing I did notice is I did get various little updates this summer while on the Mango Beta, so device specific updates may have already been done or no others may have been released for the Arrive till today. Hmm.
I just wish they would get the MyPhone ability to backup SMS messages so I can do a clean wipe and not loose every convo I have had (not important generally, but I like to keep them around.)
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To All,
The LG, Samsung, and HTC Updates are just firmware updates.. Those aren't the cleanup updates or the Official Mango updates.
I've actually received the Samsung Update whenever I updated to 7720 leaked a month and a half ago. All it did was update the firmware and give me a new diagnosis app.

sadoway said:
im guessing everyone who posted so far is carrier unlocked?
maybe be the reason we are seeing the update. even tho we have leaked mango.
almost done, phone is restarting.
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Nah, I got the HTC Arrive from SPRINT... had the 7712 DEV PREVIEW and when RTM was leaked I jumped into it... So I have been on 7720.68 all along... I still received an update via Zune but it was an HTC DEVICE update... no actual MICROSOFT update...

mapaz04 said:
Nah, I got the HTC Arrive from SPRINT... had the 7712 DEV PREVIEW and when RTM was leaked I jumped into it... So I have been on 7720.68 all along... I still received an update via Zune but it was an HTC DEVICE update... no actual MICROSOFT update...
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im starting to think this is the case

snickler said:
To All,
The LG, Samsung, and HTC Updates are just firmware updates.. Those aren't the cleanup updates or the Official Mango updates.
I've actually received the Samsung Update whenever I updated to 7720 leaked a month and a half ago. All it did was update the firmware and give me a new diagnosis app.
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I received a samsung firmware update straight after going to rtm, and just now I got another firmware update, but unfortunately it does not do much. My camera button is now disabled for quicklaunch (even though the setting is on :S) also the AllShare app still does not work.
I do think Ill have to flash back since zune now says up to date.

Guys, I'm on Telus with unbranded Optimus 7 phone running on RTM mango. I also got the update a few minutes ago by going into Zune and checking for updates. But this is not the mango update. But, all is not loos, this a was a pretty good firmware update. You see, I had installed the mango compass app a couple weeks ago and it was not working on my Optimus 7. After verifying all the forums, the necessary drivers were not on my ROM or any other ROM for that matter of fact. After the update, guess what? My compass application works great! I would assume that this update, updates all necessary drivers for Mango API's compatibility.
Now what I'm wondering is since I now have an Optimus "compatible" mango... Should I still try to get the latest Mango build being deployed today? Will I get hidden Wifi? Will I get WIFI hotspot?
Regards!

Marvin_S said:
I received a samsung firmware update straight after going to rtm, and just now I got another firmware update, but unfortunately it does not do much. My camera button is now disabled for quicklaunch (even though the setting is on :S) also the AllShare app still does not work.
I do think Ill have to flash back since zune now says up to date.
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Flash back to 7712 do the 7720 update through zune.. See if you get the cleanup tool. If you get that Cleanup tool, use fiddler and get the update cabs and post the links.

Marvin_S said:
I received a samsung firmware update straight after going to rtm, and just now I got another firmware update, but unfortunately it does not do much. My camera button is now disabled for quicklaunch (even though the setting is on :S) also the AllShare app still does not work.
I do think Ill have to flash back since zune now says up to date.
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I didn't get an update after updating to the RTM leak, but I did get one today. Hidden Wifi is there now, Camera focus is working now in Bing Vision, and the Camera Button still works.
AllShare and AdvancedTextMessage from Samsung still don't work.

singularity0821 said:
I didn't get an update after updating to the RTM leak, but I did get one today. Hidden Wifi is there now, Camera focus is working now in Bing Vision, and the Camera Button still works.
AllShare and AdvancedTextMessage from Samsung still don't work.
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Oke than I assume the update is just to the final mango and allshare is just not supported on Omnia7??
Camera thing is weird I changed the settings but seems to not do anything. Where can I test hidden WIFI?
EDIT:
hidden WiFi is there indeed. Camera button still works, it just takes 2 times as long and I am inpatient apparantly seems like the real deal, full mango...

Marvin_S said:
Oke than I assume the update is just to the final mango and allshare is just not supported on Omnia7??
Camera thing is weird I changed the settings but seems to not do anything. Where can I test hidden WIFI?
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Turn on WiFi then click advanced, you should have a + button to Add at the bottom now.

Got Mango on ATT - No Visual Voicemail

So I got the update on the leading edge. Still no VVM under phones on ATT. Called and they say the phone doesn't support it... Of course none of them even know anything about the phone or that there was an update today.
Should we all call in and make them think about this?

I think ATT only supports VVM on the iphone. I don't think it's even on android phones. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

They support iPhones and... Get this RIM Blackberries!
What is their issue?

if they do it for us it will cost us
I wish they had it, I have to use youmail and gv, youmail for visual vm and gv for transcription. Wish I had an all in one.

I used those products in the past and it kept getting out of sync, so I just gave up. How simple could it be for ATT to just "flip a switch".

teched said:
So I got the update on the leading edge. Still no VVM under phones on ATT. Called and they say the phone doesn't support it... Of course none of them even know anything about the phone or that there was an update today.
Should we all call in and make them think about this?
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Care to comment on how you got the AT&T official Mango RTM?

mikroland said:
Care to comment on how you got the AT&T official Mango RTM?
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I got the update today on my samsung focus. Just connect to zune, select check for update and voila.

Mango Update
I have the old version of Windows software in my samsung focus,, do they new mango update keeps the apps and pictures???

JOHNBON2010 said:
I have the old version of Windows software in my samsung focus,, do they new mango update keeps the apps and pictures???
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YES, everything is retained.

blahism said:
I got the update today on my samsung focus. Just connect to zune, select check for update and voila.
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I did that and now have the RTM. However how do we know this is the AT&T matched firmware with the Focus? Since that hasn't been released yet according to the wheresmyphoneupdate website.
Also would you mind running a test on your focus? Download the application called "Bandwidth" and run a 3G test. Let me know your best results. I'm getting terrible results even with the new RTM and Samsung update package.

mikroland said:
I did that and now have the RTM. However how do we know this is the AT&T matched firmware with the Focus? Since that hasn't been released yet according to the wheresmyphoneupdate website.
Also would you mind running a test on your focus? Download the application called "Bandwidth" and run a 3G test. Let me know your best results. I'm getting terrible results even with the new RTM and Samsung update package.
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Programs which relied on Samsung specific drivers are updated and working (compass, etc), which shows this is a carrier ROM. Also, the phone update website has been updated since 10 AM PST to show that the updates are being delivered - I updated at 10:15 AM PST.
Also, sooo many variables affect bandwidth that that isn't a very definitive test on how the update is. Especially with the new network ATT is putting in place.

Please wait for a chat representative to respond.
Welcome to AT&T Chat. My name is 'Kathy Williams' and I’ll be happy to assist you today.
Kathy Williams: I apologize that you are having problems with your Visual Voicemail, Mr.
Kathy Williams: I will be happy to assist you.
: thank you
: I looked everything up on how to set it up but for some reason it is not showing up in settings
: i was informed that I need to have ATT do somethign on their side to "turn on" VVM
Kathy Williams: Please allow me one moment to pull up your account.
Kathy Williams: Did this new update include Visual Voicemail for your phone?
: yes
: All windows phones were updated today and the update includes VVM
: all i need is the "switch" or whatever turned on so that my service allows access to it
Kathy Williams: I apologize but we do not show Visual Voicemail available on your phone at this time.
Kathy Williams: I do not show that we are supporting that feature on this phone yet.
: do you show the Samsung Focus S in your system yet?
Kathy Williams: Yes sir. It has been in our system for awhile.
: does that phone support VVM?
Kathy Williams: No sir.
: ok...
: ATT states they are the premier carrier for windows phones but doesnt offer visual voice mail yet?
: is there any way to find out if they ever will?
Kathy Williams: No on that phone yet. We only have it on the iPhone and Blackberry at this time.
Kathy Williams: I am sure we will offer it. However it is not available right now.
: and there is no way to find out if or when though?
Kathy Williams: We do not have any information at this time, Mr.
WTF!!!

Tom Warren with PC Mag reported on twitter a while ago that hes hearing from sources that AT&T will offer VVM for our phones within the next 30 days, lets hope that is the case!

Anyone that forced Mango today on ATT just got the same RTM Mango version that has been available for awhile with a manual install. You may have got a firmware update from Samsung that enabled the Compass, but you didn't get the ATT Carrier customized Mango yet.
Once you get that if it doesnt have VVM and Mobile Hotspots then feel free to complain.

Um, im on at&t and got it legitly and i dont have vvm yet. at&t is not supporting it yet...

TriAxisFL said:
Anyone that forced Mango today on ATT just got the same RTM Mango version that has been available for awhile with a manual install. You may have got a firmware update from Samsung that enabled the Compass, but you didn't get the ATT Carrier customized Mango yet.
Once you get that if it doesnt have VVM and Mobile Hotspots then feel free to complain.
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I forced and my firmware is AT&T (as labeled LG-C900AT) and there's no VVM option.
Sent from my LG-C900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

I don't know how many times it has to be said. AT&T does not currently support Visual Voicemail on Windows Phone 7 or Android, only on iPhone and BlackBerry. It will take upgrades on their back end before we see Visual Voicemail.

HTC Connection Setup

Connection Setup is back in the marketplace, under HTC Apps as before.
Current version is 1.12 (build 2119.18323). I saw it because I was prompted to update.
This version *DOES* process \Windows\CustClear.proxml still, assuming you don't have the latest HTC Updates (the Mango ones). Therefore, it's usable for interop-unlock on HTC phones if you can upgrade to Mango without getting the HTC updates (try U2M7720 or just send the CABs directly).
Thought you all would like to know!

I thought that interop-unlock is for Samsung,even though you even have connection setup you can't fully unlock your HTC device with interop-unlock in your device.

Interop-unlock just means having the MaxUnsignedApp value above 300 in the registry. This allows installing and running apps with ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Samsung or any other phone.
Heathcliff74 has released instructions for interop-unlock on LG phones, and an app for Samsung phones. The app is called "Interop-unlock" because that's what it does, but there's other ways to do it. Several other people have given instructions for doing it on HTC phones. It requires three things, though:
A CustClear.provxml file in the Windows folder. This typically means you have to roll back to pre-Mango to put the file there.
A working Marketplace (not sideloaded) copy of Connection Setup, which can process the CustClear.provxml file.
A working HTCFileUtility.dll driver, which typically means upgrading to Mango *WITHOUT* getting the HTC update that comes bundled with it (on HTC phones). You can do this by upgrading using U2M7720, or by deploying the update cabs directly, or by using a custom ROM (though those typically come already interop-unlocked).
After that, the steps are simple: place the CustClear.provxml file that will provision the registry value as needed, upgrade to Mango (sans HTC update), and run Connection Setup. The problem for a lot of people recently was that HTC pulled the Connection Setup app from the marketplace for a few weeks. This post was to let everybody know that it was back, and that it could still be used for unlock.

GoodDayToDie said:
Connection Setup is back in the marketplace, under HTC Apps as before.
Current version is 1.12 (build 2119.18323). I saw it because I was prompted to update.
This version *DOES* process \Windows\CustClear.proxml still, assuming you don't have the latest HTC Updates (the Mango ones). Therefore, it's usable for interop-unlock on HTC phones if you can upgrade to Mango without getting the HTC updates (try U2M7720 or just send the CABs directly).
Thought you all would like to know!
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So I had HTC Connection Setup v1.2 Build 2020.30266 on my unlocked phone by Ansar method (Mango) and the question is: should I update Connection Setup?????
Any unexpected problems will appear or not?
And how to cancel that suggested update????

Im on nodo and not seeing it. ugh. anyone else in the same situation?

GoodDayToDie said:
Connection Setup is back in the marketplace, under HTC Apps as before.
Current version is 1.12 (build 2119.18323). I saw it because I was prompted to update.
This version *DOES* process \Windows\CustClear.proxml still, assuming you don't have the latest HTC Updates (the Mango ones). Therefore, it's usable for interop-unlock on HTC phones if you can upgrade to Mango without getting the HTC updates (try U2M7720 or just send the CABs directly).
Thought you all would like to know!
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Why would HTC put this app back (which doesn't work if you have the HTC update BTW; tried it)? I don't understand HTC re-releasing their app for their HTC devices where it doesn't work with their HTC updates
I have a CustClear file sitting there since I upgraded the OEM route weeks ago (put it in the windows directory in NoDo and did not run/install CS until at final and it did not work; app was removed from MP, now released again and still doesn't work).

It's working for it's original purpose.

Im on Orange Network in the UK and i cant see it yet
Hopefully its just taking its time to filter through as ive held off on build 7403 untill this becomes available again so i can finally upgrade to mango and be interop unlocked,
its been a long wait! lol

Wait. We do not know if it has the same exploits

jdbastardy said:
Wait. We do not know if it has the same exploits
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Well according to the OP it is ok to use
GoodDayToDie said:
This version *DOES* process \Windows\CustClear.proxml still, assuming you don't have the latest HTC Updates (the Mango ones). Therefore, it's usable for interop-unlock on HTC phones if you can upgrade to Mango without getting the HTC updates (try U2M7720 or just send the CABs directly).
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Yep ok... I hope it will work even with the updates.

dingodog said:
Im on Orange Network in the UK and i cant see it yet
Hopefully its just taking its time to filter through as ive held off on build 7403 untill this becomes available again so i can finally upgrade to mango and be interop unlocked,
its been a long wait! lol
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I hear ya!
I'm starting to wonder if it will show up in the marketplace if youre not on mango.
I checked the marketplace and its still not there. Also the phone prompted me that an update is available (which it usually only did when I was connected to zune)
So any ideas anyone?
I cant use U2M7720 to upgrade I get a warning that the carrier is not in the database.

Just FYI, the app isn't working at all on an HTC Arrive (GoldC). Says it isn't supported by my device.

@atm153: That's unfortunately expected. It only works on GSM devices, and the Arrive is pure CDMA.
Folks on NoDo/7403: Not sure why it's not showing up. If it's targeted for Mango only, that would be... rude.
Folks asking if it works with the latest HTC updates (the Mango ones): Yes if you're asking "Will it set up my connection?" and No if you're asking "Will it unlock my phone?" This is the same as before.
Folks asking if it's safe to update: It appears to be just fine. However, if you're feeling paranoid, create a backup image (restore point). I had just created one for an unrelated purpose, and so was not afraid to test.
Hope that answers all of your questions...

I had HTC Connection setup on my cdma device about 4 months ago and unfortunately deleted it. It worked fine then, it was downloaded from the marketplace.

Really, Jay? That's interesting, it's been reported many times to not work on the Arrive. It works on Verizon's Trophy because that phone has both CDMA and GSM.
Give the new version a shot, I guess... but I wouldn't expect much.

I dont know if this will help anyone as i cant test it but here is a version that i had from a while back. Just thought someone may can use it?

GoodDayToDie said:
Really, Jay? That's interesting, it's been reported many times to not work on the Arrive. It works on Verizon's Trophy because that phone has both CDMA and GSM.
Give the new version a shot, I guess... but I wouldn't expect much.
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New release of CS does not work on the Verizon Trophy Mango 7720.68 - the carrier is not in the database error comes up.

Huh... are you installing it from Marketplace or via sideloading? I expect that error if you sideload it.
Works on my HD7, but then I also have avoided the latest HTC updates so my phone still has a working HTCFileUtility driver (allows TouchXplorer to work). If I break that driver (manually, without updating) and try to use Connection Setup, I get the same error that you're reporting. It would be fantastically stupid of them to release a version that's incompatible with their own update, but I thought it was pretty dumb to pull it in the first place too (the app has a pretty important legit use...)

I got the phone in feb so im guessing i downloaded it off the market in march or april. I downloaded all the free htc apps to mess around with. What was really odd was when i set it to sprint it messed up everything. When i set it to verizon everything was back to normal. Had i known i wouldve never deleted it.

Where's My Update - Community Edition

Microsoft has announced they will no longer document update releases by carriers, but this is still useful information, so now we must keep track ourselves to know which carriers are lagging behind.
Feel free to edit this spreadsheet when you have received an update notice on your carrier (no login required):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuPW6_Ouc0FidG53dGQ1al9JbGtQWnQ2TTR2Q1pGaGc
Cheers

Looks Great. Although I would suggest that they are completly sorted by Country, then Carrier and then device I guess this is fine for a first version.
Maybe someone can add these changes later with the help of this forum.
Anyway, today I received 8107 but only after using the cable/network disconnect trick on my PC. Should I still mark it as delivering update?

As long as you haven't changed your branding or your ROM to a different carrier, then you can add that your carrier is delivering the update.

slimshady322 said:
Looks Great. Although I would suggest that they are completly sorted by Country, then Carrier and then device I guess this is fine for a first version.
Maybe someone can add these changes later with the help of this forum.
Anyway, today I received 8107 but only after using the cable/network disconnect trick on my PC. Should I still mark it as delivering update?
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hi, what phone model ? Branded or unbrander ?
I have a titan unbranded, I have try the disconnect trick but it does not work :-(

iosub said:
hi, what phone model ? Branded or unbrander ?
I have a titan unbranded, I have try the disconnect trick but it does not work :-(
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Unbranded probably wont get the update as there is no one to request it for you! I think that is how it is. I've forced the update on my Titan and worked perfectly fine. Very simple steps. There is link etc in the Titan forum as well as here somewhere.

drupad2drupad said:
Unbranded probably wont get the update as there is no one to request it for you! I think that is how it is. I've forced the update on my Titan and worked perfectly fine. Very simple steps. There is link etc in the Titan forum as well as here somewhere.
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hi the trick is to disconnect the WiFi (1-2 sec) on the PC after click update,right?
btw, do you have the wifi or 3g on, in the phone?
thanks

iosub said:
hi, what phone model ? Branded or unbrander ?
I have a titan unbranded, I have try the disconnect trick but it does not work :-(
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I have a Vodafone Germany branded LG E900.
iosub said:
hi the trick is to disconnect the WiFi (1-2 sec) on the PC after click update,right?
btw, do you have the wifi or 3g on, in the phone?
thanks
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You disconnect your PC from the Internet (in my case via network cable) shortly after you start searching for updates via Zune. I actually disconnected about 5 seconds after searching started, but you can try out what works for you.
I had WiFi enabled and cellular data connection disabled (no 3G and no EDGE), although I only disabled cellular data due to my prepaid flat expiring.

can confirm that unbranded/open market phones not get the 8107 update
omnia 7 -> no update availible in germany, even with cable trick, no chance.
dell venue pro -> no update avaible in germany, even with cable trick, no chance
both no carrier brandings.
I am pissed a lot about microsofts way to schedule udpates to the people, nobody knows where and why any update will arive and there are everywhere anoyiing bugs in wp (keyboard) -> user experience is an F

What does it mean, open phones no update??? no update now, or no update never ever?? Anyway, we pay more for a open phone, to get more updates and even sooner, and at the end, we are the last.

0711 said:
can confirm that unbranded/open market phones not get the 8107 update
omnia 7 -> no update availible in germany, even with cable trick, no chance.
dell venue pro -> no update avaible in germany, even with cable trick, no chance
both no carrier brandings.
I am pissed a lot about microsofts way to schedule udpates to the people, nobody knows where and why any update will arive and there are everywhere anoyiing bugs in wp (keyboard) -> user experience is an F
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XxAndrexX said:
What does it mean, open phones no update??? no update now, or no update never ever?? Anyway, we pay more for a open phone, to get more updates and even sooner, and at the end, we are the last.
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I think open phones now get the updates much easily! We only need one carrier to release update and then using cab sender it updates right away! I did that with my unbranded Titan and it only took 8-9 minutes from point A to point B!

there is currectly no update delivery, maybe in the future but if you see microsoft community manager any carrier has to request the update ... but theres no carrier for open market phones, whats the obvious? Open market phones dont receive this update ever and get it maybe with the next (tango?) update.

send a tweet to
Lets send a tweet to @joebelfiore
@joebelfiore my HTC titan is unbranded #wp7 how can I get the 8107 update If is carried depended ?
Iosu
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drupad2drupad said:
I think open phones now get the updates much easily! We only need one carrier to release update and then using cab sender it updates right away! I did that with my unbranded Titan and it only took 8-9 minutes from point A to point B!
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I think that is a dangerous method.. If you don't update all the language cabs..
You may not get next HTC update..

So open phones users, we are screwed or what? i got the 7740 update right away. but until now no theethering for example.

yes this is the actual situation, some unbranded phones may not become wlan tethering because it depends on carrier request and dont get the 8107 update (on the official way...with hacks you can have both but this is not the point why i choose windows phone)
sad to see microsoft destroys its own system and screw away their fans

I've got a Samsung Focus (originally a Rogers phone) unlocked and using on Bell Canada network.
I did the wifi disconnect trick and got the 7740 update...doesn't this mean Roger is delivering it?

0711 said:
yes this is the actual situation, some unbranded phones may not become wlan tethering because it depends on carrier request and dont get the 8107 update (on the official way...with hacks you can have both but this is not the point why i choose windows phone)
sad to see microsoft destroys its own system and screw away their fans
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for tethering you need OEM driver update it's not only OS depended
Iosu

Samsung had the driver ready even before Mango started rolling out. In the official rollout drivers update was already softap implemented and working . I got some ROM that had older OEM drivers date than the Mango rollout and it was there too.
On the other hand, HTC was playing bad and didn't include it. No idea how LG and Dell...

iosub said:
for tethering you need OEM driver update it's not only OS depended
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i know...but if i use hack i can use internet sharing...if i dont, i am not able to use it
even on german telekom the omnia 7 users got internet sharing
i have german telekom sim but unbranded omnia 7 and dont got it
i know that the dell venue pro is not capable for this feature but omnia 7 was before mango!
When i look at 2 friends, one with branded telekom and one unbranded, both got internet sharing and no one can tell why my friend with unbranded got the update and i am not.
its not the lack of the feature, because i dont care about wlan tethering but who pushs the updates? Microsoft and they hold it back, a total inconsistents in the update process...like with 7740 as os update or even more worse the 8107 update
-> tested the cab sender and all seems to be fine for me but restored my backup because i want it on the official way and not this. I paid not only for the device, for the os, too! The update experience is just bull**** with wp, android doin it better because i can choose nexus phone (never thought i say this) and get every update immediatelly and apple do it the best way since now.
Looks like my next phone will be no windows phone, regardless that i like the system but i dont get what was promised and what i get.

The big issue here is how to confirm all this data.
Maybe some of the information is wrong.

I guess I'll try to keep the Sasktel (Canada) section current. I'm guessing there aren't too many Sasktel people on here with windows phones but I could be surprised.
Also +1 on being annoyed with this whole carrier requested updates.
At least we'll be able to come here to see what's officially available.

Force updating to Tango - a warning

A lot of people have seen the links on WPCentral and WMPowerUser for force updating to Tango using the cab sender method.
I've been posting in that thread since yesterday and I'm seeing countless people messing up their phones by (a) not using the cab sender tool to make a backup before sending the updates or (b) not installing the language packs with the update or not installing the correct language packs.
The other thing people should be aware of is that for some people the update is removing INTEROP unlock. If you have a very recent Samsung firmware there may be no way to unlock again.
Tango adds very few features. Location awareness icon is not there. Export to SIM only appears to be there for a select few. Unless MMS is something that your life depends on, wait until more work can be done by the developer community analyzing what effects the 8112 and 8773 updates have on all the different phones & variations (carrier/unbranded) thereof.
EDIT: One user with a Dell Venue Pro has most probably irreversibly bricked his phone by applying the update.

If you want to force the update, try it:
http://www.wp7connect.com/2012/06/28/how-to-force-tango-update-on-your-device/
Worked for me. Needed two updates. The second one was 8773, then I received Nokia firmware.

i don't understand how those steps are able to work. if the wlan connection is killed while zune is searching for an update it returns a 'can't check for updates right now' error.

If you do it the right timing, it will stop the checking of the phone carrier etc. So thats something like
Connect to server > Check Atual Version > Check Last Version Available > Check if allowed to update > Update
When you kill the wlan, you are supposed to it exactly in the part that check if you are allowed to update. When it doesnt receive a response from server, it just update. Basically, you jump one step.
And it works perfectly. I've done this with Mango, now I done this with Tango too. Believe, it's not troll.
Another method is to count how much time it takes to answer you that your software is up to date. And then take 1-3 seconds off. That's when you have to disconnect. So you keep trying alternating the time you disconnect your pc.

thanks for the explanation of the sequencing.
i love wp7, and the lumia has been great...but i think it's a bit strange that updates are via zune software only, yet they stripped the marketplace accessibility functions from that same software making them ota only. sorry for the stray OT.

mikeeam said:
If you do it the right timing, it will stop the checking of the phone carrier etc. So thats something like
Connect to server > Check Atual Version > Check Last Version Available > Check if allowed to update > Update
When you kill the wlan, you are supposed to it exactly in the part that check if you are allowed to update. When it doesnt receive a response from server, it just update. Basically, you jump one step.
And it works perfectly. I've done this with Mango, now I done this with Tango too. Believe, it's not troll.
Another method is to count how much time it takes to answer you that your software is up to date. And then take 1-3 seconds off. That's when you have to disconnect. So you keep trying alternating the time you disconnect your pc.
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i did what you said and it worked :O thanks

stewpeanut said:
thanks for the explanation of the sequencing.
i love wp7, and the lumia has been great...but i think it's a bit strange that updates are via zune software only, yet they stripped the marketplace accessibility functions from that same software making them ota only. sorry for the stray OT.
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WP 8 is going to have OTA update. And a rumour that 7.8 too (I dont know what for. Will MS release updates after 7.8 to 1st and 2nd generation?). But I think the Kernel CE is the one to blame here. Its not a big problem for me. You will have like 2~3 updates in one year. That gives one update every 4 months or 6 months. I dont mind connecting my WP to computer.
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i did what you said and it worked :O thanks
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Yw! Tango has fixed some dirty language bugs for me!

meechieballer said:
i did what you said and it worked :O thanks
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on what carrier are you?

It worked for my carrier unlocked Samsung Focus.
At first I installed the OS updates (4), then I tried to install the 5 lenguages that my phone needed but an error prevented that, so after I tried to install only my main lenguage and it worked!
I agree, it's not really worth it, I use the MMS feature, but this cab update method it's not very stable in all phones.

I finally couldn't take the disappearing keyboard issue on my HTC HD7s. As far as I read, AT&Crap had no intention of providing that update, or Tango for that matter. I followed the steps for the cab loading updates and they worked fine. Haven't noticed any adverse effects for the past few days. Now I just bide my time until my contract ends so I can grab whatever decent WP8 phones that come out.

We've been doing force update thing from the Mango days. It's a easy process *IF* people follow the directions. It does work but, you must have the correct language packs/files to install with it.
It also could remove your Unlock.
If you READ THE DIRECTIONS and RE-READ THE DIRECTIONS, then FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS you should be fine.
It's people who are in a rush who brick or screw up their phone.

NarcoSleepy said:
I finally couldn't take the disappearing keyboard issue on my HTC HD7s. As far as I read, AT&Crap had no intention of providing that update, or Tango for that matter. I followed the steps for the cab loading updates and they worked fine. Haven't noticed any adverse effects for the past few days. Now I just bide my time until my contract ends so I can grab whatever decent WP8 phones that come out.
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I read a few comments on wpcentral that AT&T people with devices such as the Focus Flash have received the update through regular means/disconnecting from network while updating method.

Lg optimus 7
Question about the Tango update...
On My Lg it went smooth... i see sms picture, video that i can attach, but i have ringtone in place of voicenotes ??
Anyone else experience this?

Tango on at&t Lumia 900???
So is there any confirmation that people are able to do the Tango update on the Lumia 900 on at&t via the disconnect internet trick? I've tried a couple of times and been unsuccessful. I don't want to waste my time continuing if it won't work.

akizmaj said:
Question about the Tango update...
On My Lg it went smooth... i see sms picture, video that i can attach, but i have ringtone in place of voicenotes ??
Anyone else experience this?
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Yep I only have pictures/video enabled,anyone knows how to enable voicenotes?

After several attempts finally got the prompt for update OS to 7.10.8112 however the update was unsuccessful!! Did it 2nd time but again the update was unsuccessful???
Not sure why it's doing this? If I cannot update to 7.10.8112 then I cannot update to Tango 7.10.8773.98
Has anyone else experienced this on unlocked European Titan? If it helps I'm currently on OS version 7.10.8107.79 and with Bootloader version 2.6

What is your free space on your:
a) PC?
b) phone?
Also it should say some error number.

OndraSter said:
What is your free space on your:
a) PC?
b) phone?
Also it should say some error number.
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Have enough space on my laptop more then 50g and have around 5.95gb of free space on my handset.
Yes there was a error code displayed but remember what it was? I'll try again tonight after work and post here with the error code.

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No Voice Note on 8773
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Yep I only have pictures/video enabled,anyone knows how to enable voicenotes?
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I followed cab sender method, which seemed to work fine. However, I also do not have Voice Note, instead I have Ringtone.
Any ideas? How do we enable Voice MMS? Is it a Carrier-restricted aspect?