Should I update to ICS? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

I've heard it has a lot of glitches so i'm really skeptical about updating. I care a mostly about battery life and performance. Are those two effected a lot? Is worth it? I don't plan to root, just stay on stock.

can someone please reply with the pros and cons?

Personally i would flash thederekjays evolution 3 v7. Experiences vary, but i had bad luck on 5-6 ics roms including 100% stock. Evo3 v7 is so far a bit faster and just as stable as GB. Plus, the bennies of ics (Google ics vs gingerbread if you want all the city details).
But as i said experiences vary.
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Worth the plunge....I say do it...you won't look back.... Gb is old news. Why would a new version of an OS be worse than it's predecessor?
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I didn't notice any difference in battery life vs gb and the upgrade made my phone run better IMHO. I just couldn't stand touchwiz anymore and opted for aokp. Besides, keeping gb when there's an available upgrade it like running windows 3.1 on you computer...... why would you do such a thing
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If you are happy about GB, stay with GB.
Once you go ICS, you can't go back... since you dont want to root.
It's probably the same honestly. No one is going to give you a stock gb vs stock ICS because no one cares about reviewing stock ICS. It is what it is.

2 weeks ago I would've said stick with GB, but then I tried ICS/CM9 & I absolutely love it. My battery life has improved drastically & it's more stable than the GB rom I was on before. Now that the ICS kernels are out, things will only keep getting better. I can't really think of any cons, aside from a slight learning curve due to some menu items being rearranged.
Why don't you want to root? By rooting you can try out ICS without being stuck with it if you don't like it.

i sold my phone couple of day before the ics update was released but i heard many ppl report that the stock ics was alot faster and better that gb. but in the end you will have to flash and try it for yourself to see if you prefer ics or gb

ICS
ICS is the way to go....Always go with the latest and greatest when OS' are concerned. ICS has been out long enough for Google to iron out any kinks. I would also go with Darkside Evo3v7. TDJ's new Venom kernel is incredible and being about to OC to 1785mhz is a bonus. I usually underclock for battery life. ENJOY

If you go stock, I recommend you wipe it before you flash it. I didn't the first time and had lag issues, to the point that I was regretting updating. I have since wiped, and used Odin to put on the stock Tmo ics and am happier.

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Just purchased E4GT

Like the title said, I finally jumped on board. I got the Evo at launch, and used it until October. I saw the Epic when it came out, but I thought it was too big, so I decided to wait for the iPhone. Well, long story short, it was a mistake lol. Small screen, locked-down software, etc etc. Well now that bad boy's gonna be up on craigslist and I'm back in the world of Android.
So far, I'm very pleased.
Any rom recommendations? I use to run Calkulin's Evo rom for a while, and I see that he has an Epic rom, so I guess I'll give that a spin first
Just try out his rooted fb17 build with the fb15 modem I've been using it as my daily since it was dropped.
Ics is super awesome on this phone just for the love of god DO NOT USE CWM TOUCH RECOVERY. i don't wanna see another i bricked my phone thread lol.
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I would advise against using any of the ICS roms as they are not daily driver status yet (I'm running an fb21 setup so I know).
Go with Blazer 4.0, until more work is done on the ICS ones, this will be your best bet for battery life, stability, and smoothness. I ran Calkulin's for a long time and his rom is good but Blazer definitely gets better battery life.
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Try them all but some good advice is until you get comfy with flashing and the little changes from the OG Evo to the Epic, I would just flash stock custom roms and leave those ICS roms alone like the poster above me just said. No need to bork your new phone so fast incase you do something wrong. Also stay away from the Touch recovery until they do some more testing on it... Just my opinion
I'd recommend both Calkulin's ROM, and Blazer ROM at the current time (And they're both excellent developers, so i'd think their future releases will be good also)... not to say the other ROM's available aren't good, I just personally haven't used them so I can not speak on something I haven't experienced. I expect a lot of ROM's to be released soon based on ICS, so the ROM recommendation might change soon.
Welcome, enjoy your new phone
Thanks for all the recommendations. Honestly, I haven't had much of a reason to root the device. The main reason I rooted the Evo was to get rid of Sense, and increase battery life.... needless to say I have neither of those problems on the E4GT.
I'll probably just root but stick with the current ROM I'm running so that I don't have to start from scratch. Once the ICS roms become more stable, I'll look into those.
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I'll probably just root but stick with the current ROM I'm running so that I don't have to start from scratch. Once the ICS roms become more stable, I'll look into those.
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Honestly, that's what I am doing. I have a stock ROM with root and CWM... and I'm observing the ICS progress and waiting for a decent, stable ROM/Kernel/Recovery then I'll make a change. My phone is important to me, so I observe to watch the testing and such before diving in.
I kept it stock myself and its been very well.... Bought my et4g about a week ago also for 200 bones... Frekaing steal basically
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There are several Alpha/Beta ICS roms out right now but I would strongly suggest using the older ones for now. Too many people are bricking their phones trying to run ICS. If you must do ICS I would suggest completely restoring your phone back to 100% stock and then installing ICS to a stock/unrooted rom.
I personally am using Calkulin's EL29 (v.2.8.1) rom with the EL29 Kernel and EL29 baseband. It is Gingerbread 2.3.6 but it is insanely stable, extremely responsive; especially if you don't use the TouchWiz but instead use GoLauncher.
I rooted mine so i could delete twiz and all the bloat, then i found team nocturnals dark ics blend rom and flashed it and the fb21 modem and life is good, got rid of all the ugly colors and twiz and fb21 modem increased my 3g data from 100kbps to 1mbps now when i use my og evo it looks dirty from the lower screen quality and its sooooo laggy compared to thia beast
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Cm9 ftw! It's a few more steps at the moment to flash and get some fixes for gps and ext sd to work, but it's so beautiful on this phone. I can't stand tw and all the bloat.
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[Q] E4GT 3.0 vs E4GT 2 1.4

Im debating between these two roms they are almost identical. one is just ics and the other gb. does anyone have any suggestions? which has better battery life, signal, smoothness, any input is valid here guys.
Sounds like you should go for the gb build. Gb is incredible battery, signal, performance. While ics is not bad it is noticeably worse. Advantages of pics are being able to use launchers which resemble aosp ics launcher (trebuchet, apex, Nova) and the general swagginess that ics has
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I was running E4GT 2 1.4 ICS for a day and I was getting random resets even after a full wipe. The resets were quick and most of the time I didnt even know my phone reset. I actually prefer the E4GT 3.0 even though it was GB, it seems a lot faster and more stable than the ICS build, esp with the modems being updated lightning fast for both builds, but nothing is really too much different appearance-wise between the two. Both have hotspot hacks, which is amazing and both a tweaked for speed and battery life.
soccerboarder43 said:
Im debating between these two roms they are almost identical. one is just ics and the other gb. does anyone have any suggestions? which has better battery life, signal, smoothness, any input is valid here guys.
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if you wanna be cool and be like the rest of use you can try out AOKP build 32 (ICS ROM) while the battery life isnt as good as GB its still awesome.
Or you could try a GB rom like blazer 4.0 with incredible battery life and use nova launcher which resembles ics launcher.
I would recommend using a Gingerbread based rom to begin with.
They are far more stable overall.
Additionally, the ICS based roms are not something to play with if you're just starting out. There are lots of posts here in the Q&A about ICS bricked phones.
This is a must read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
Yea im definately not just starting out and have followed the ops very carefully im very greatful i havent bricked this phone yet seeing as how i have over carelessness with my past 3 phones lol (evo shift, optimus s, moment) but im loving this phone emmensely and with the processor this thing has you rarely ever see a lag. and beat the crap outta battery life i had with past phones. im on E4GT 3.0 right now no complaints whatsoever. i miss ics tho lol thanks for all the input guys
Upon following the suggestions of someone commenting in the forum, I flashed 2.8.1 and have not had any major problems. I tried the 3.0 and had issues. I forgot what they were but 2.8.1 with fd19 modem and no frills CPU control set to 200 1200 cfq set at boot, it had been very stable for me.
Right after you flash it and boot into system, you probably will not be able to choose which launcher initially. Its a simple fix. Hit the power button to turn off the screen, wait a few seconds, then hit power again to waffle up screen. You might have to do this a few times before it let's you select anything. I download stock gingerbread launcher from modaco and use that.

Phonedog review of ICS on GS2

Lolz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKHaoQ-QfrQ&list=FLLflYUVRnJN5YGTjFEzdaNA&feature=mh_lolz
The question I have is, how does the stock ICS release rate in terms of battery life and performance as compared to TDJ's and Whitehawk's releases? If its not any faster or runs longer, why bother until TDJ/WH release tweaked versions?
DK
Aarons a pretty cool dude lol battery life on the new tmo release didn't cut it for me but others reported good bat life. Give it a go and see how it flows for ya.
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When I had my SII, ICS was cool and all but the performance and battery life just weren't as good as the GB builds. I always ended up going back to GB
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should probably wait until TDJ releases the new version with his own kernel.
I am quite underwhelmed with the performance. Speed, smoothness, battery life, all better with GB. Not sure what they were thinking in this upgrade. Why send it something that makes the phones perform worse with no noticeable added features. Wasn't this supposed to be the upgrade to really show off the dual core processors?
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You people serious? The update literally not even been out 48 hours and you're all complaining about battery and performance? For one, that's not enough time to judge battery, two, did you really think a stock build would be some epic thing? Any one with any sense was excited for what it meant for custom ROMs.
FWIW, I ran stock until last night. That was when TDJ posted his first stock but tweaked and debloated ICS ROM from all things official. That said, the battery did just fine on tmo stock for the whole 16 or so hours that it ran on a single charge. Yeah, no tweaks, nothing crazy going on, just stock as it was installed through Kies.
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You people serious? The update literally not even been out 48 hours and you're all complaining about battery and performance? For one, that's not enough time to judge battery, two, did you really think a stock build would be some epic thing? Any one with any sense was excited for what it meant for custom ROMs.
FWIW, I ran stock until last night. That was when TDJ posted his first stock but tweaked and debloated ICS ROM from all things official. That said, the battery did just fine on tmo stock for the whole 16 or so hours that it ran on a single charge. Yeah, no tweaks, nothing crazy going on, just stock as it was installed through Kies.
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Its not just the performance that is the problem. Its the fact that they have the keys to making this phone great and are paid well to do so and our amazing unpaid devs have to clean up the mess that the tmo devs left behind. I mean srsly? Releasing a stock rom with shutdown and reboot hang? WORSE battery life? i had to flash a camera fix to make it EVEN WORK. PERIOD. Idk if they even fixed wifi calling but im leaning toward no. Bottom line its pretty lackluster and our devs here are our saving grace.
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I don't understand the people on this forum sometimes, you people make my head hurt.
I wholeheartedly agree. Devs spend their time fixing more than enhancing. To anyone complaining about people complaining.
NOT EVERYONE WILL HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE YOU DO.
Me being one of those people. Ucle2 runs much better, smoother with 20+ hours of bat life with 3+ hours of screen on time. With the tmo release I got lag, screen glitches and battery life not even half as good as tdjs evo 7.1.
...yet there are people that have absolutely no issues. Understand that the people with no issues are the minority. Not everyone wants to mod their phone. The amount of tmo gs2 owners on this forum are the minority compared to the millions of average users without knowledge of rooting.
...how do you think ics will run on their gb equipped handsets??
Leave the minority alone unless you have helpful info on changing their experience. If not, I and the rest of the ****ed updaters don't want to hear your 2 cents.
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RushAOZ said:
I wholeheartedly agree. Devs spend their time fixing more than enhancing. To anyone complaining about people complaining.
NOT EVERYONE WILL HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE YOU DO.
Me being one of those people. Ucle2 runs much better, smoother with 20+ hours of bat life with 3+ hours of screen on time. With the tmo release I got lag, screen glitches and battery life not even half as good as tdjs evo 7.1.
...yet there are people that have absolutely no issues. Understand that the people with no issues are the minority. Not everyone wants to mod their phone. The amount of tmo gs2 owners on this forum are the minority compared to the millions of average users without knowledge of rooting.
...how do you think ics will run on their gb equipped handsets??
Leave the minority alone unless you have helpful info on changing their experience. If not, I and the rest of the ****ed updaters don't want to hear your 2 cents.
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It's not complaining about the complaining. It's shock at the naivety that a stock ROM would offer anything remotely close to what the GB customs offered let alone what the ICS customs will bring us very soon. I didn't expect anything out of TMO's ICS other than, hopefully, that tasty ICS look. TMO had other plans though so my one dream was shattered.
As for any issues with the TMO stock? I had only one. The wifi calling delay was still present for me. Aside from that, it did everything it should have. I understand as well that every experience is different but, again, the TMO release isn't the climax here. That is still to come.
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It's not complaining about the complaining. It's shock at the naivety that a stock ROM would offer anything remotely close to what the GB customs offered let alone what the ICS customs will bring us very soon. I didn't expect anything out of TMO's ICS other than, hopefully, that tasty ICS look. TMO had other plans though so my one dream was shattered.
As for any issues with the TMO stock? I had only one. The wifi calling delay was still present for me. Aside from that, it did everything it should have. I understand as well that every experience is different but, again, the TMO release isn't the climax here. That is still to come.
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Of course in a month or 2 this phone will surpass anything gingerbread gave us. Can't wait!
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Im happy with the update make sure to do a factory reset a lot issues get resolved like this. It did help to root and removed all tmobile bloat ware. Tmobile really needs stop putting useless apps on their phones
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Lolz
The question I have is, how does the stock ICS release rate in terms of battery life and performance as compared to TDJ's and Whitehawk's releases? If its not any faster or runs longer, why bother until TDJ/WH release tweaked versions?
DK
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My g/f and I both have the t989. Her's is rooted with stock GB, and I was running Juggernaut. There was a profound difference in battery life between the two phones. So far, my battery life with Mr. X's stock/rooted ICS looks to be about the same as Juggernaut. She is running stock ICS now, but it is too soon to say how her battery compares. It should be the same, unless getting rid of the t-mo bloat makes a significant difference. I don't think it will for battery life, though.
About 2 weeks ago something happened with my phone and the Juggernaut install was corrupted. I flashed back to stock GB and I couldn't get a full 24 hours. With Juggernaut I can get about 3 days.
I really hated the t-mo version of ICS with all the bloat, but with it rooted, I used TB to freeze all the bloat away. Much cleaner phone now.
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rfail1988 said:
Its not just the performance that is the problem. Its the fact that they have the keys to making this phone great and are paid well to do so and our amazing unpaid devs have to clean up the mess that the tmo devs left behind. I mean srsly? Releasing a stock rom with shutdown and reboot hang? WORSE battery life? i had to flash a camera fix to make it EVEN WORK. PERIOD. Idk if they even fixed wifi calling but im leaning toward no. Bottom line its pretty lackluster and our devs here are our saving grace.
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You are thinking about this from the perspective of the phone owner and android and enthusiast. Think about it from their business perspective.
1) This is the last OS update for this phone. Their emphasis at this point is probably on the next 'latest and greatest' android phone.
2) They aren't interested in making this phone the 'best' it can be. They are simply aiming for better than adequate (that would be for your regular user grade android phone), they are aiming for above average, but not superlative. If they aimed for (and achieved) superlative, you might not be as interested in buying their next 'latest and greatest' android phone. You know "Hey, no need to upgrade now, because, with this latest update, this phone rocks."
3) Finally, judging by all the bloat, another major goal the company has set for the programmers is to develop built in apps, etc. that tempt customers into paying for additional fee based services, thus adding additional income streams.
I'm just glad that it is so relatively easy to root this phone and create custom roms for it. I'm also very thankful there is a talented community dedicated to that undertaking.

The sad truth?

Is the sad truth that our phones will never be as smooth as it was while running gingerbread?
is it just me or will our phones ever live up to the stability of GB? I have used every ROM since I bought this phone..and GB is the "pinnacle" of software for our phone.
Now this is my first Android phone but is this the case with other phones? I.e. the software shipped with the phone is the best suited version.
Just trying to see if anyone feels the same way as I do...
Well the phone was built around that OS. Guess its like having a PC that came with XP and wanting to throw on a custom made Windows 8 OS on it.
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I'll have to politely disagree
I actually have have my phone feel more smooth on ICS and even more smoother on jelly bean.. I was on ginger bread stock for the longest time before I found out about xda and my experience has been way better since then... I even reverted back recently to try a GB Rom and felt like my experience was still better on ICS /JB
But I understand where u coming from. Every one has different experiences
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Cm9 is awesome.
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Sure, I agree that ICS and JB are way better than GB..much "sexier" to have. Matter fact, JB has sucked me back in to loving my phone. However, the argument is that no matter how hard the devs try, who do a damn good job, GB will be far and away the best OS for our phone. This includes stability, dependability and of course battery life, among other things :good:
Its not our phones fault sprint gave us a jacked ota :/
Gb wasn't always 'perfect' but ics, and eventually jb we'll most likely be just as pleasing as gb, If not more, with more features. Just give her time
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Is the sad truth that our phones will never be as smooth as it was while running gingerbread?
is it just me or will our phones ever live up to the stability of GB? I have used every ROM since I bought this phone..and GB is the "pinnacle" of software for our phone.
Now this is my first Android phone but is this the case with other phones? I.e. the software shipped with the phone is the best suited version.
Just trying to see if anyone feels the same way as I do...
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Its just you. I've had an amazing experience since Ff09 or whatever that leak was
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thegoodrat said:
Is the sad truth that our phones will never be as smooth as it was while running gingerbread?
is it just me or will our phones ever live up to the stability of GB? I have used every ROM since I bought this phone..and GB is the "pinnacle" of software for our phone.
Now this is my first Android phone but is this the case with other phones? I.e. the software shipped with the phone is the best suited version.
Just trying to see if anyone feels the same way as I do...
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Just you. Here I am rocking CM9b1.
I totally feel what your saying..cuz other phones on sprint have smooth stock ics other than ours..we can go back and fourth but the fact of the matter is samsung and sprint released a half a** update for ics ..and god bless the developers trying to improve the ics experiance!
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Could not agree more. I am back on gb after using ics for a while its insane the stability and smoothness of this phone on gb. Ics is smooth but gb just destroyed it on our phone!
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ICS is working fine fine with me.
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I also agree that Ics does not match gb YET. But they are making progress fi03 has shown us hope of that. It looks a little smoother and showing major improvement I'm both battery and signal. So Sammy is listening and working to smooth out ics. Keep in mind that there is even a newer build that we don't have yet fi06 who knows whats fixed in that. And I am willing to bet we will get some more drops this month of they continue with this pattern . So let's try and stay optimistic Sammy definitely has the financial backing now to afford good support for there devices. And since the s2 is still selling very well Sammy is continuing support and with Motorola making such a public announcement about there jb support you know sammy is gonna compete with that. So even of ics doesn't become perfect they will probably get it right in jb. Either way a little patience and optimisim will go a long way the future looks bright for our phone.
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I also agree that Ics does not match gb YET. But they are making progress fi03 has shown us hope of that. It looks a little smoother and showing major improvement I'm both battery and signal. So Sammy is listening and working to smooth out ics. Keep in mind that there is even a newer build that we don't have yet fi06 who knows whats fixed in that. And I am willing to bet we will get some more drops this month of they continue with this pattern . So let's try and stay optimistic Sammy definitely has the financial backing now to afford good support for there devices. And since the s2 is still selling very well Sammy is continuing support and with Motorola making such a public announcement about there jb support you know sammy is gonna compete with that. So even of ics doesn't become perfect they will probably get it right in jb. Either way a little patience and optimisim will go a long way the future looks bright for our phone.
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Damn like this totally made me think this was an election gig and your looking for a vote haha ..RIGHT ON!!
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I honestly never had an issue with ICS even with the past leaks besides the Wimax bug which is now fixed. Maybe phones have different effects to software. Idk but that emmc bug never affected me and I used the stock recovery to wipe more than once on several occasions lol..
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You guys must not be doing clean installs with full wipes and just doing the ota update. I haven't had any issues with ICS or JB, but I always do a thorough wipe before flashing anything and I only use aosp based roms, like AOKP or PA. I'm not a fan of TWiz so I only run it long enough to do PrL and Profile updates :shrug: if you're having issues with ICS or JB I recommend doing a thorough wipe and then flash a rom and start fresh, left over data and incompatible apps can cause all kinds of issues. I think the only reason the carriers don't wipe data on OTAs is cuz its easier to listen to ppl ***** about the update sucking than it is to listen to em ***** the update erased all their games and apps . They should just force data wipe on OTA and use the Google sync function to restore most data after a clean install, but still people would complain they lost their texts and other assorted crap that if its honestly that important should be getting saved to their external SD cards anyways, cuz if the phone breaks you're gonna lose your sh!t atleast if its on the external SD you can salvage it :thumbup:
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Yes I do every time. Try flashing back to el29 run it for a day or two then flash back to ics and tell me you don't see the difference. It's pretty night and day. I am willing most people that are satisfied with ics are either just happy that's it's a little but better than the ff18. **** we were given or aren't comparing it to el29 maybe cause they never ran it or it's been So long they forgot what it feels like. When you flash back to el29 coming from ics that actually feels like the upgrade. Especially on ph 4.1
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Cm9 is a smoother experience to me at least. Also I'm getting even better battery life than on calks 3.0
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krisI0N said:
Its not our phones fault sprint gave us a jacked ota :/
Gb wasn't always 'perfect' but ics, and eventually jb we'll most likely be just as pleasing as gb, If not more, with more features. Just give her time
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This is my thought exactly. We had what, 3 or 4 official builds of GB before they got it right? And we are on number 2 for ICS.
And with that being said, I am not having any problems with ICS. The last two leaks are running great and I don't miss GB at all.
Everybody has there own experience and opinions, this is just mine.
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I agree with the OP. GB was a much more stable experience. I've flashed dozens of roms both clean and keeping user data and while ICS/JB are definitely improvements to the OS feature-wise, they tend to fail at stability including bugs, battery life, reception, and performance. I've only found one ICS rom that has actually managed a better battery life than calk's EL29 GB and that's re-calked 1.9. As far as reception goes, I get 0-1 bar on ANY ICS/JB rom/kernel/modem combo I've tried here at work and I always get 1-3 bars on GB combos such as EL26 or EL29. Performance is much better on GB for the simple reason that there's less stuff and the improvements in OS efficiency are not enough to offset the increased resource usage of all those cool new features. I also have yet to find an ICS/JB rom that handles scrolling as well as GB... with 4.x when you scroll it's either manually by holding your finger and dragging slowly to pan down or it's superobnoxiously fast and you go from top to bottom but have a hard time scrolling to anywhere just shy of the top or bottom without manually panning to those points. On GB the scrolling is slower so on a long page it may take a while to get to the bottom but at least you can scroll to any point fairly easily once you get used to the scrolling speed. ICS/JB roms have bugs too... mostly minor little annoyances that aren't worth asking a dev to fix. App compatibility is another huge hit for 4.x roms as is the major wifi bug that every 4.x rom I've tried has had which causes the wifi to show as connected after a wakeup but you can't even access google.
Yes, there are certainly some features about ICS/JB which I really enjoy and this is why I keep flashing more roms in the hopes that maybe eventually I'll stumble across the perfect rom/kernel/modem combo to make my phone uber. Re-Calked 1.9 with Agat's 5.4 and FH23 has so far been a decent step in that direction but it's still not perfect as the wifi problem still exists and scrolling is still ICS scrolling but one of these days I'll find the perfect non-GB rom.
Well it seems some people arent understanding my post. Sure, cm9 is great. Ive been running pa cm10 for the past week cause its been so fun. But the best GB ROMs have given me the best experience even it wasn't as "fun"
Maybe idk how to flash properly or my phone sucks lol

Am I the only one still using GB???

I have found that out of all the ROM's Ive tried, even the latest JB ones, that the ones with the best battery life and stability were Blazer and Calks 3.0. Those of which are on Gingerbread. So, am I the only one that thinks or agrees to this? I might not be "up to date" but my performance is damn good! =)
must be
What little extra battery life I'm not getting on FK23 & FL16 compared to GB is not worth all the extra goodies I would have to live without. For me GB is boring and the tradeoff is more than worth it.
Have you tried both the TW JB and the AOSP JB roms?
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I have found that out of all the ROM's Ive tried, even the latest JB ones, that the ones with the best battery life and stability were Blazer and Calks 3.0. Those of which are on Gingerbread. So, am I the only one that thinks or agrees to this? I might not be "up to date" but my performance is damn good! =)
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Haha, you're not the only one. After DD'ing Jellybean leaks for the past 25 days, I flashed back to my Calkulin nandroid backup for its awesome battery life. . I got the best Jellybean battery life on fl16 (3 hrs 45 mins) but it can't compare to the ~6 hrs on calkulin. I'm just gonna wait now for the ota Jellybean + source before I try it again.
jburke90 said:
I have found that out of all the ROM's Ive tried, even the latest JB ones, that the ones with the best battery life and stability were Blazer and Calks 3.0. Those of which are on Gingerbread. So, am I the only one that thinks or agrees to this? I might not be "up to date" but my performance is damn good! =)
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Probably not the 'only' one. But in these parts XDA Developers you will certainly be in the minority.
By it's very nature these forums are for those looking for the latest greatest and bleeding edge technologies and tweaks.
The latest JB builds are awesome. Good battery, hotspot working natively (so far). Stable. Google Now natively. More responsiveness. Nicer looking and more customizable. I get about 14+ hours with fairyly heavy usage - my cell is my phone for work and home.
Yes these forums do provide some great stuff for the 'regular joe' but that's not what the forums are here for. We try to work together to get the most out of the devices as possible. That usually means functionalily and features 1st, performance 2nd and battery 3rd. I do know that there are some devs who may change those orders but that is usually the case.
I have always been amused by the 'how long does your battery last' crowd. While I think any phone should last at least a day with a good battery and reasonable usage I think it's silly to 'demand' more. It's 2012 get another battery (or external battery for emergencies) for backup, grab more chargers - I have one in all cars, home office work office and laptop bags.
Just my two cents.
Have you tried replacing your battery ? I just bought 2 new ones from Anker and my phone is getting better battery life and I'm running FL16 JB. I am delighted with the purchase and wish I had done it sooner. Here's link and read up on them as well.
Anker battery for D710
Good luck
Personally I use CM10 on my phone, but on my mate's phone, it's running Blazer's 4.1 GB sheerly because of the WiMax speeds. If I didn't love flashing the latest and greatest, I would've stuck with GB too.
From my experience, nothing beats calkulin's 2.8.1. I wanted to like more current roms, but even with underclocking, ics and jb chug the battery. People can ask or claim that your battery is bad. If the battery is bad then why can I get about double the battery life out of calkulin when compared to more recent roms? Same battery, twice the run time, practically no lag or noticeable performance hit. I was halfway through my second extended life battery during a normal shift at work with ics and jb when going home when I'd be around 20% with calkulin gb on the first battery. I'm not saying everyone else is wrong in their preferences, but to me, battery efficiency without noticeable CPU hit means everything. Other builds seem sluggish and battery hogs to me. Don't get me wrong, there's some cool features with new builds but the trade off of battery isn't worth it to me. It's a damned shame calkulin moved onto other pastures. He definitely knew his $hit when it came to tweaking rooms and I like his choices he took in his earlier builds with this phone.
I think if calkulin and bugless beast Pete got together, their rom would be damned near bulletproof. Peter Alfonzo.
Pacman ROM has amazing battery life for being JB. Plenty of customization tweaks as well, I used to only rock blazer 4.1 as well but some of my apps got updated and now require to be on ICS or JB based ROM.
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try another kernel on JB...may be its make ur battery life to be good...
You must have amazing battery life cuz fk23 has matched el29 battery wise and has better signal for me anyway
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What's the screen on time
colonel.shepard said:
What's the screen on time
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Usually around 40 to 50%
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Ics
JB
i keep auto sync on too
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