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SOUND QUALITY (when compared with devices equipped with the Wolfson DAC )

I am probably going for the Note, but I will be testing the sound of the GNexus, the minute it hits the showrooms here in Holland.....and if its sound is as good as or even better than my sgs's (wolfson dac) ....that could change my mind....
Anyway, for those who already own a Galaxy nexus AND have experience with phones equipped with the Wolfson DAC, like the sgs, i-phone and more, how is the GNexus's sound in comparison?
Thanks

Probably going to have to wait for the audiophile or music freaks to get a satisfactory answer to that. A lot of us are still waiting for that answer.
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Is this thing already being sold or not?
Here in Holland , if I order now, it will take 4 weeks

I pre-ordered mine @ expansys.nl and they deliver on December 3rd. Supercurio inspected the sound hardware already and it looks quite ok. its up to google how they impanted it into the OS, But im not worried cuz im sure things get tweaked and optimised overtime.

SquirtingCherry said:
I pre-ordered mine @ expansys.nl and they deliver on December 3rd.
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If you read better, it says expected December 3rd. That's slightly different.
Mine is expected at the end of November. Bottom line is that they simply don't know when The Phone will be delivered.

SquirtingCherry said:
I pre-ordered mine @ expansys.nl and they deliver on December 3rd. Supercurio inspected the sound hardware already and it looks quite ok. its up to google how they impanted it into the OS, But im not worried cuz im sure things get tweaked and optimised overtime.
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I tried to find the Supercurio info that you mentioned regarding the sound hardware for Galaxy Nexus but searching Google I did not find anything. Do you have a link?
BTW. I just looked at the expansys UK site and they have the 32GB model (for others looking for this version of the phone), but no price listed yet:
www expansys com/google-galaxy-nexus-32gb-black-224348/
Sorry, I don't have enough posts to make a proper link.

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I already knew Supercurio thoughts....
I was hoping that there enough users out there with that thing in hands, already testing...
I guess the selling still have to warm up
I buy my decices always on belsimpel.nl . they have good prices, good service and an office here in Groningen, where I can pick it up...
GNexus 560 Euros...
Tje price of the Note went down to 546 euros

what about the speaker quality? is samsung known to use decent speakers on their phones? i know htc speaker quality is pretty ****ty.. cracks occasionally and not really crisp
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spovat said:
what about the speaker quality? is samsung known to use decent speakers on their phones? i know htc speaker quality is pretty ****ty.. cracks occasionally and not really crisp
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Yeah the speaker on my HTC Incredible blew out during the first week of owning it.

Speaker on phone, really that bad?

I know the Nexus was released today,and instead of asking questions, I should be out getting it, but I feel that I need to ask this question before I go ahead and get it.
The speaker for the speaker phone and audio playback.....is it really as bad as reviewers say? I only ask because I use the speaker on my phone about 2-3 hours per day listening to podcasts, music and such. As silly as it sounds, it is really high on the make or brake list of the phone.
Also, in this same realm, did the update that is being pushed out doing anything for it? I am just curious if it is actual hardware or just software. I know, with my Touchpad, when running WebOS, sound comes out of the speakers perfectly, but when I boot up the CyanogenMod based XRON ROM on it, it is rather awful and pretty much unusable. So, its obviously a software thing, not a hardware thing.
I don't mind waiting a bit to see if more users have more opinions on it, and worst case scenario, if need be, I wouldn't mind waiting until the Razr gets ICS, or at least the CyanogenMod version of it..
Thanks

I haven't had any issues with audio playback. I'm not entirely sure what issues your referring to either so perhaps you could clarify.
Overall I'm very happy with my purchase and would highly recommend it. (coming from a HTC Desire)

There were several places I read it.
This was from this morning (http://tinyurl.com/cv932ov):
Galaxy Nexus speaker blows: The speaker on the Galaxy Nexus is basically useless and one of the worst speakers I have ever used on a phone. It is nearly impossible to use it as a speakerphone and forget about listening to music and podcasts without a headset or external speaker. Some have suggested it might be a software issue and I can only hope so since I can’t even use it with such low volume. The speakers on the iPhone 4S are much better and I have no complaints at all.
I remember both The Cell Phone Junkie and also someone on Android Central mentioning it as well, but with the 2 minutes of searching, I couldn't find it easily on their sites. Its seems people have complained about them being "tinny" and not great at high volumes..
From what it sounds, you have no problems with it at all?

its really not that bad but it improves drastically with the free volume + app
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After having a read of that article I'm pretty sure this guy has a biased opinion. Many of these so called issues don't even make sense. For example, better camera (if you look at the example shots hardly any noticeable difference), speaker issue (none of what is stated I can relate to), display too big?(irrelevant, user preference) and 4s being a world phone (doesn't make sense as a GSM gnexus is available).
So basically I don't think this guy really knows what he's talking about. But this is only my opinion

I guess sitting here reading the internet all day at work is going to make my head spin and I should probably just go pick the thing up and actually try it out for myself.
Or, with a bad speaker, I guess that is a way to convince the wife to let me put wifi/bluetooth speakers throughout my house.

MikeDaub said:
I guess sitting here reading the internet all day at work is going to make my head spin and I should probably just go pick the thing up and actually try it out for myself.
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Great idea! Best way to make a decision.

RTContent said:
After having a read of that article I'm pretty sure this guy has a biased opinion. Many of these so called issues don't even make sense. For example, better camera (if you look at the example shots hardly any noticeable difference), speaker issue (none of what is stated I can relate to), display too big?(irrelevant, user preference) and 4s being a world phone (doesn't make sense as a GSM gnexus is available).
So basically I don't think this guy really knows what he's talking about. But this is only my opinion
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Ohh, I agree 100% that the article was written by an Iphone user, designed to draw people from Android to IOS. But, like I mentioned, I have heard it before and figured it was easy enough to ask in the forums about it.
I think most of the reviews have come from the GSM version, to there might be a software upgrade that might have helped it..

RTContent said:
Great idea! Best way to make a decision.
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Yea but..... That's another 6 envious hours of sitting at my desk reading about people getting it.. I want it now..

Another Vote for Volume+

Its not bad. Its just not very loud. Shoulda called it quiet speaker.
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I never thought my Incredible's speaker was really loud, but it always worked good enough for what I needed. Maybe I just need a Jawbone or some sort of Bluetooth speaker... That would solve all the issues if I couldn't stand using the one on the phone..

speaker is fine, used it all day so far... I'm fairly critical about speakerphones and music, and it sounds fine... no samsung phone has a "great" speaker, but this one is tolerable

Beats Audio now unofficially available for all Android devices

http://phandroid.com/2012/03/04/bea...es/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

what's good about beats? seems like it's all hype

So along with the 10+ threads we have about ICS for the international GSII (that don't help us at all) are we gonna see 10+ threads on how Beats can be ported to any Android device now?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525172
and the actual thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226

The download list says it works for samsung devices. I am testing it now.

I really hope this doesn't bring an influx of "does this ROM have Beats?" questions.
It's vastly overhyped and to an extent, the sound quality isn't any better than what you can configure with Poweramp.

synergeticink said:
The download list says it works for samsung devices. I am testing it now.
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Its already being integrated into paradox rom.
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Which one should we actually flash?
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Just installed it, I can tell a difference. Too bad there is no control app for it.

Man not this again. Flashed it last time and then he said that it was fake and didn't really do anything. what's the difference with this one?
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darkside79 said:
Man not this again. Flashed it last time and then he said that it was fake and didn't really do anything. what's the difference with this one?
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Ill have it ready for everyone tomorrow
I didnt look at this one yet.
The other wasnt fake...it just put the files in the wrong places..it was missing a few extras as well
M&S

Master&Slave™ said:
Ill have it ready for everyone tomorrow
I didnt look at this one yet.
The other wasnt fake...it just put the files in the wrong places..it was missing a few extras as well
M&S
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Ur a beast Bro hope u bring it soon so when I go to the gym tmrw I can rock out even better... keep up the great work
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Master&Slave™ said:
Ill have it ready for everyone tomorrow
I didnt look at this one yet.
The other wasnt fake...it just put the files in the wrong places..it was missing a few extras as well
M&S
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Your awesome man!!

Wont install on Tmo GSII
From My S II (T989)
or My Asus TF201

LpSk8r said:
Wont install on Tmo GSII
From My S II (T989)
or My Asus TF201
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Poor guy
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LpSk8r said:
Wont install on Tmo GSII
From My S II (T989)
or My Asus TF201
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I was able to install it, and it worked.

LpSk8r said:
Wont install on Tmo GSII
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Worked for me...you may want to try again.

Is there a particular reason people don't like Beats? I haven't tried it, but it seems to be immensely popular although I'm sure a lot of that is due to trendiness.
Even Starbucks made good coffee at one point....

opiate46 said:
Is there a particular reason people don't like Beats? I haven't tried it, but it seems to be immensely popular although I'm sure a lot of that is due to trendiness.
Even Starbucks made good coffee at one point....
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My reasoning is as follows.
On the Beats Audio HW side, it is overprices POS that lives on name brand along, much like BOSE. This is not to say the Hardware is bad, but rather that it is highly over-priced for what you get and can often get better quality for 1/3rd or less of the MSRP if you buy other brands.
As for the SW side of things Beats audio artificially increases the the lower end of the audio spectrum through audio "enhancement" algorithms which actually colors the sound and effects not only the Lower Bass but Mid-bass as well and imho ruins the music. It ruins it by changing the sound signature drastically from the original. Basically from all I have seen through wave-guide charts is that it adds or amplifies all frequencies under 120hz to be at an equal or higher level than the highest output for a single frequency. In short, it makes all music sound heavy in bass whether or not it was the artists original intention.

Can't say that's what I want happening to my music then. Thanks for the fairly detailed explanation.
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Raistline said:
My reasoning is as follows.
On the Beats Audio HW side, it is overprices POS that lives on name brand along, much like BOSE. This is not to say the Hardware is bad, but rather that it is highly over-priced for what you get and can often get better quality for 1/3rd or less of the MSRP if you buy other brands.
As for the SW side of things Beats audio artificially increases the the lower end of the audio spectrum through audio "enhancement" algorithms which actually colors the sound and effects not only the Lower Bass but Mid-bass as well and imho ruins the music. It ruins it by changing the sound signature drastically from the original. Basically from all I have seen through wave-guide charts is that it adds or amplifies all frequencies under 120hz to be at an equal or higher level than the highest output for a single frequency. In short, it makes all music sound heavy in bass whether or not it was the artists original intention.
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I hope more people realize this. People at my gym walking around with these headsets on their heads thinking "look, I'm cool and I got swag cuz I'm wearing Dre by Beats"

T-Mobile Galaxy S3 Audio Hardware

I have been trying to get infos on US version of Galaxy S3 whether it is Wolfson DAC or not, but unable to get any confirmations from early receivers yet. So, in a hope of receiving something, Can anyone of you who received Sprint Galaxy S3 confirm its audio hardware whether it is Wolfson DAC?

Let me know which *.lib files I'm looking for and I'll check for you.
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it has it. Samsung rep at launch party confirmed. Also some reliable articles.

stonew5082 said:
it has it. Samsung rep at launch party confirmed. Also some reliable articles.
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Actually, it does not. The gsmarena results indicated that it did not, but AndreiLux helpfully pointed to the system configuration in the source code.
So your choice is quad core, great GPU, and great sound, or a lower price and much better transfer speeds.

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Actually, it does not. The gsmarena results indicated that it did not, but AndreiLux helpfully pointed to the system configuration in the source code.
So your choice is quad core, great GPU, and great sound, or a lower price and much better transfer speeds.
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Gsm arena is about as reliable as a piece of dog feces. I trust the Samsung rep.

stonew5082 said:
Gsm arena is about as reliable as a piece of dog feces. I trust the Samsung rep.
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I can't comment on the veracity of gsmarena (or the quality of their audio testing), but you don't trust the source code released by Samsung? Are you suggesting that maybe the Wolfson is present in the U.S. phones but the Samsung developers forgot to enable it?

Haha I don't know maybe I'm in denial. I was really really looking forward to voodoo sound.

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So your choice is quad core, great GPU, and great sound, or a lower price and much better transfer speeds.
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...I would add that a U.S. based warranty should be considered among the perks of the stateside models. Most of the international GSIII's I'm seeing would have to be shipped overseas to have any warranty repair done. **** does still happen!

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...I would add that a U.S. based warranty should be considered among the perks of the stateside models. Most of the international GSIII's I'm seeing would have to be shipped overseas to have any warranty repair done. **** does still happen!
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I have fortunately never had to deal with this. Are you suggested that a carrier-purchased phone would have the warranty honored by the carrier? Up to a year (or whatever the warranty is)? Or that the warranty is always honored by Samsung, but Samsung U.S. won't access non-U.S. phones?

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I have fortunately never had to deal with this. Are you suggested that a carrier-purchased phone would have the warranty honored by the carrier? Up to a year (or whatever the warranty is)? Or that the warranty is always honored by Samsung, but Samsung U.S. won't access non-U.S. phones?
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I think TMobile does warranty exchanges in-store.

The US versions don't have the Wolfson dac but they still sounds pretty darn good. So please stop sweating it. The Qualcomm audio stack it has is great and well sorted out. No worries on that front! I've tested it with Westone UM2's, Sennheiser MX880's, Denon D2000's, and the bundled earphones (best ever to come with a phone), and the phone sounds good. So stop worrying about it. It's a non issue.
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Not true ..the wolfson via voodoo also had an option to change mic sensitivity so we could record good sound in loud venues. So far the indications are you get crap recording video at loud concerts.
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Not true ..the wolfson via voodoo also had an option to change mic sensitivity so we could record good sound in loud venues. So far the indications are you get crap recording video at loud concerts.
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Yeah, but the indications are also that this is related to the video recorder audio encoding, not a hardware or system issue. A better video recorder or a simple update could resolve the issue.

not true i tried other video record with higher bit rates.. still crap.. need to lower the mic sensitivity

lgkahn said:
not true i tried other video record with higher bit rates.. still crap.. need to lower the mic sensitivity
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Any way to do this without Voodoo Sound, since it won't be compatible with the US variant of the Galaxy S3?

Well as a followup to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887750
I'm going to post about the qualcomm audio codec and we can access the registers maybe change the
mic levels, don't know about the wolfson though..

Aftermarket headphones with mics don't work for making calls on the GSIII?

Hey Guys, I am VERY frustrated with this phone.
I have 2 pairs of awesome aftermarket phones that I have used for years on various phones to make and receive calls: Klipsch s4is and Bose E2s, which have worked on: iphone 4, iphone 4s, nexus one, LG G2x.
I just sold my 4s to get a GS3, and now, the headphones are not recognized by the phone app. WHen I dial out, I cant hear anything, and the mic doesn't register my sounds. There is no option for wired headset in the phone sources section of the phone app (which has a bluetooth option, and a speaker option, but not a wired headset option).
Is there any solution to this? If not, I'm immediately selling. I can't imagine that this is the most popular android device. I'm already dealing with the stock mail app not showing or syncing Exchange sub-folders, which is very, very annoying. Combine that with the headphone issue, and I'm already ready to bail. Please help!

Your gonna sell your phone because of a headset ? Buy a bluetooth headset on ebay and thats it.
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shahkam said:
Your gonna sell your phone because of a headset ? Buy a bluetooth headset on ebay and thats it.
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not everybody wants to carry two things that need to be charged or the need to spend more money. i gotta say it really bothers me that i cant listen to music and cant switch to calls because it just doesnt work.

qben88 said:
not everybody wants to carry two things that need to be charged or the need to spend more money. i gotta say it really bothers me that i cant listen to music and cant switch to calls because it just doesnt work.
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Well i use the stock headset and they work just fine im not an audiophile but in my opinion it is okay ..
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Sounds like you are still loyal to I phones, and probably not ready for the s3. Probably best for you to stay where your loyalty lies.
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Sounds like you are still loyal to I phones, and probably not ready for the s3. Probably best for you to stay where your loyalty lies.
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Loyalty? What are you talking about. I'm about quality and features, not loyalty. In fact, to be loyal to a phone sounds completely wacko to me.
I'll repeat for everyone: I just called Samsung tech support. They have confirmed that aftermarket headsets DO NOT WORK ON THIS PHONE.
The also confirmed that: exchange sub-folders DO NOT WORK ON THIS PHONE.
You're telling me that is acceptable on their premier device? That is a joke. I will most definitely be selling this phone for one that supports the most basic, basic functionality.
BTW, I tested the phones on 5 different phones at the ATT and TMO stores and the Samsung kiosk at the mall. The headphones work on none of them. The 2nd tier customer support at Samsung has zero helpful information, and no date to fix. This is pathetic. I'll be getting rid of this phone now. If anyone wants a brand new white 32gb GS3 for TMO with an elago case and screen protector, let me know.

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Your gonna sell your phone because of a headset ? Buy a bluetooth headset on ebay and thats it.
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Not responsive to my post.
Secondly, bluetooth? i don't use bluetooth. i use high grade wired earphones with mic: Klipsch and Bose. THE DEVICE DOESN'T SUPPORT THEM.

silverghozt said:
Loyalty? What are you talking about. I'm about quality and features, not loyalty. In fact, to be loyal to a phone sounds completely wacko to me.
I'll repeat for everyone: I just called Samsung tech support. They have confirmed that aftermarket headsets DO NOT WORK ON THIS PHONE.
The also confirmed that: exchange sub-folders DO NOT WORK ON THIS PHONE.
You're telling me that is acceptable on their premier device? That is a joke. I will most definitely be selling this phone for one that supports the most basic, basic functionality.
BTW, I tested the phones on 5 different phones at the ATT and TMO stores and the Samsung kiosk at the mall. The headphones work on none of them. The 2nd tier customer support at Samsung has zero helpful information, and no date to fix. This is pathetic. I'll be getting rid of this phone now. If anyone wants a brand new white 32gb GS3 for TMO with an elago case and screen protector, let me know.
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Exchange sub folders work fine, I use them for work every day. (FYI, I have about 20 sub folders to my inbox.)

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Exchange sub folders work fine, I use them for work every day. (FYI, I have about 20 sub folders to my inbox.)
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Interestingly, tier 2 Samsung support contradicted you this afternoon. They don't work on mine, and the support person confirmed the feature is not supported.

silverghozt said:
Interestingly, tier 2 Samsung support contradicted you this afternoon. They don't work on mine, and the support person confirmed the feature is not supported.
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Her advice was also to buy a third party exchange app.

Have you tried them using a non touchwiz rom? That might be a solution

I have the same problem, but it only happens on "3 buttons" headset. If you use "one button" headset, it works fine with S3.
Example: I have Bose MIE2 (universal) and MIE2i (dedicated volume buttons for iPhone).
MIE2 (one button) does not disconnect when making calls, but MIE2i gets disconnected everytime when making call and I have to re-plug to make it work again.

My brother has piece of sh it headphones from Walmart with a built in answer button and mic. It works just fine...
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silverghozt said:
Hey Guys, I am VERY frustrated with this phone.
I have 2 pairs of awesome aftermarket phones that I have used for years on various phones to make and receive calls: Klipsch s4is and Bose E2s, which have worked on: iphone 4, iphone 4s, nexus one, LG G2x.
I just sold my 4s to get a GS3, and now, the headphones are not recognized by the phone app. WHen I dial out, I cant hear anything, and the mic doesn't register my sounds. There is no option for wired headset in the phone sources section of the phone app (which has a bluetooth option, and a speaker option, but not a wired headset option).
Is there any solution to this? If not, I'm immediately selling. I can't imagine that this is the most popular android device. I'm already dealing with the stock mail app not showing or syncing Exchange sub-folders, which is very, very annoying. Combine that with the headphone issue, and I'm already ready to bail. Please help!
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I feel your pain. The first time I realized that my headsets didn't work with the S3 I was baffled. And it sucks that every time I'm listening to music with my earphones and I get a call, I have to pull the phone out and answer the call using the earpiece and mic on the phone. Totally stupid and frustrating. I hope it gets fixed soon. It's also really funny how the buttons work (one, not 3 on 3-button headsets like mine) to pause and skip tracks but the mic doesn't. Stupid.
On the Exchange Folders front, all folders do show up. The way I access them (I have multiple exchange accounts set up) is to hit the account drop down and then tap on show all folders. So the Samsung support person you talked to was wrong on that front.
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silverghozt said:
Not responsive to my post.
Secondly, bluetooth? i don't use bluetooth. i use high grade wired earphones with mic: Klipsch and Bose. THE DEVICE DOESN'T SUPPORT THEM.
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My original Android wired headphones (that came with the Nexus One) work perfectly with the T-Mobile SGSIII to play music and make/receive calls. The call comes in, the music pauses and I answer the call, talk to the caller, hear them perfectly and end the call using the headset button. There something wrong with either your headset (I'm leaning in this direction) or your phone.
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Maybe the headphones you are using are only for iphone?

Bose high quality lol
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Have you tried them using a non touchwiz rom? That might be a solution
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This
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I have used wired and BT headphones from 3 different companies and I can listen to music and make calls with all of them.
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I have klipsch 4S Androids and they work fantastic on my SGS3. Personally, I love the headset and the Mic on it works great. I know klipsch say the iPhone ones don't work on android. But I agree, you should buy a different phone. You must like what you buy when you spend on a top of the line phone.
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