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Reviews..

lets see if we can add the reviews to one thread so they'll be easy to find.
Here are two I just got real quick ...
Wirefly...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3p8UaIpsoY
Mobile Burn ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEijRctiodk

Here are all the reviews/unboxings I've seen:
MobileBurn part 1 and 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgWwD0YY_hE&feature=player_embedded#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3oyI1SMfkA&feature=player_embedded
BWOne:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MzAswTazUk&feature=player_embedded#!
Slashgear:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-epic-4g-touch-review-12178752/
Phandroid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8e_BIGwSbg&feature=youtu.be
Androidpolice:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/09/13/initial-hands-on-with-the-samsung-epic-4g-touch-for-sprint/

Here is probably the most thorough review you will find.
Courtesy of Anandtech.com
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/

Lisa from MobileTechReviews (She does great reviews) has a review coming tomorrow... she just got it today.

Sweet Guys !

Khilbron said:
Here is probably the most thorough review you will find.
Courtesy of Anandtech.com
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/
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Anand's review talks about the 2nd microphone used for noise cancellation. But it seems the Epic 4G Touch is missing this feature.

Here's a first impression from wired:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/09/samsung-galaxy-s2-epic-4g/

The best is yet to come...
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Korey_Nicholson said:
The best is yet to come...
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Yeah, looking forward to our Whosdaman review.
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WhiteZero said:
Anand's review talks about the 2nd microphone used for noise cancellation. But it seems the Epic 4G Touch is missing this feature.
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To be honest that feature on my E3D irritates the hell out of me. When *I* am in a setting on a phone call *I* hear the noise and it's usually very confusing that other people can't...I usually talk louder to compensate for the noise and only get asked "why do you sound like that" or "why are you yelling?"....it is especially effective with the exactl (constant, droning and predictable) type of background noise I work around. Perfect fit? No way, I have old school ears and sensibilities...the fact that someone I am having a conversation with isn't aware of or affected by the same sound that is ruining my day 10 hours a day for years, well, it's hard remember....Screw who I'm talking to, how about a phone that eliminates background noise for me? Besides, if I'm clearly busy (or trying to sound like it) the last thing I need is for my phone to make it seem like I'm in a quiet room with nothing going on.
Cool technology...the very concept of phase cancellation is what fascinated me enough as a child 2 decades ago to study sound, reproduction, recording and engineering in the first place...but...I will not miss it one bit.

Wirefly part 2 is up.
My post count isn't high enough to post the link.
Cheers

gaspowered1 said:
Wirefly part 2 is up.
My post count isn't high enough to post the link.
Cheers
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Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsWLhxTbeEk

gaspowered1 said:
Wirefly part 2 is up.
My post count isn't high enough to post the link.
Cheers
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Allow me
EDIT: MetalHead beat me to it. lol

anyone say how much memory is available to apps?

churro7 said:
anyone say how much memory is available to apps?
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2gb, there was a screen shot of the available space in one of the video reviews. I'm sorry, I don't remember which one.
Cheers

sweet thx
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Anyone noticed that the BWOne review there was a HDMI adapter while other reviews such as the AndroidPolice didn't come with one? What the heck?
Edit: From AndroidPolice "Yes, it did, but it wasn't in the phone box. It was in a bag, stuck in the shipping box separately. Thus, I didn't mention it in the unboxing."
Mystery solved.

PC World Review
I hear that the HDMI adapter doesn't come with it, at least its not part of whats in the box... speculation though, i am praying it does.

Okay special requests for my review will need to be sent by PM. I will include every request as necessary. So far the only major request I've had is signal comparison. And so far I can say that the Epic Touch is one bar stronger then the Nexus S 4G. I haven't been able to test 4G yet...

Found a couple new unboxing videos. Man my life is lame right now.
Pocketnow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bORdFDO8318
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Phonedog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Qi_XZNfk8&feature=player_embedded#!

SOUND QUALITY (when compared with devices equipped with the Wolfson DAC )

I am probably going for the Note, but I will be testing the sound of the GNexus, the minute it hits the showrooms here in Holland.....and if its sound is as good as or even better than my sgs's (wolfson dac) ....that could change my mind....
Anyway, for those who already own a Galaxy nexus AND have experience with phones equipped with the Wolfson DAC, like the sgs, i-phone and more, how is the GNexus's sound in comparison?
Thanks

Probably going to have to wait for the audiophile or music freaks to get a satisfactory answer to that. A lot of us are still waiting for that answer.
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Is this thing already being sold or not?
Here in Holland , if I order now, it will take 4 weeks

I pre-ordered mine @ expansys.nl and they deliver on December 3rd. Supercurio inspected the sound hardware already and it looks quite ok. its up to google how they impanted it into the OS, But im not worried cuz im sure things get tweaked and optimised overtime.

SquirtingCherry said:
I pre-ordered mine @ expansys.nl and they deliver on December 3rd.
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If you read better, it says expected December 3rd. That's slightly different.
Mine is expected at the end of November. Bottom line is that they simply don't know when The Phone will be delivered.

SquirtingCherry said:
I pre-ordered mine @ expansys.nl and they deliver on December 3rd. Supercurio inspected the sound hardware already and it looks quite ok. its up to google how they impanted it into the OS, But im not worried cuz im sure things get tweaked and optimised overtime.
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I tried to find the Supercurio info that you mentioned regarding the sound hardware for Galaxy Nexus but searching Google I did not find anything. Do you have a link?
BTW. I just looked at the expansys UK site and they have the 32GB model (for others looking for this version of the phone), but no price listed yet:
www expansys com/google-galaxy-nexus-32gb-black-224348/
Sorry, I don't have enough posts to make a proper link.

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I already knew Supercurio thoughts....
I was hoping that there enough users out there with that thing in hands, already testing...
I guess the selling still have to warm up
I buy my decices always on belsimpel.nl . they have good prices, good service and an office here in Groningen, where I can pick it up...
GNexus 560 Euros...
Tje price of the Note went down to 546 euros

what about the speaker quality? is samsung known to use decent speakers on their phones? i know htc speaker quality is pretty ****ty.. cracks occasionally and not really crisp
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spovat said:
what about the speaker quality? is samsung known to use decent speakers on their phones? i know htc speaker quality is pretty ****ty.. cracks occasionally and not really crisp
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Yeah the speaker on my HTC Incredible blew out during the first week of owning it.

iPhone users reactions to samsung's anti iPhone ads

http://9to5mac.com/2011/12/01/samsung-continues-anti-apple-rant-on-facebook/

Lol that's pretty funny, especially the comments.
I just traded my iPhone 4 (acquired for a month) for the E4GT too, with $20 bucks on top. I can say that while I do miss some stuff that the iPhone did, I'm more satisfied with the EG4T.
Only thing that I don't like about my EG4T is how long it takes to charge up lol.

LOL 9to5mac
That's like a Muslim preaching to a bunch of country bunk Christians in Alabama. Too much koolaid for them to open their caveman minds.

naripsta said:
Lol that's pretty funny, especially the comments.
I just traded my iPhone 4 (acquired for a month) for the E4GT too, with $20 bucks on top. I can say that while I do miss some stuff that the iPhone did, I'm more satisfied with the EG4T.
Only thing that I don't like about my EG4T is how long it takes to charge up lol.
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What did u miss from iphone that sg2 android doesn't have?
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you have to admit, adding the battery specs for the e4gt while not mentioning the iphone's is pretty stupid considering everyone and their mom knows that the iphone destroys any android phone in battery life. they should've just left that bit out all together.

cnstarz said:
you have to admit, adding the battery specs for the e4gt while not mentioning the iphone's is pretty stupid considering everyone and their mom knows that the iphone destroys any android phone in battery life. they should've just left that bit out all together.
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I agree that they should not have had battery life ONLY for their phone. Either have it for both or don't mention it. But I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Epic matched the 4s in battery. Not only is the 4s battery worse than the 4, the epic actually had good battery life according to the reviews.
But yeah, that's pretty dumb how they did that chart. They also didn't mention resolution of the screens. Only the size (which I do love).

Somebody go tell them Samsung made their screen
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I find it funny that the comments were saying samsung is wrong for making fun of apple but didnt apple do that with the mac vs pc commercials

asqwrd said:
I find it funny that the comments were saying samsung is wrong for making fun of apple but didnt apple do that with the mac vs pc commercials
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Yeah with the kid from die hard lol
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rgregg504 said:
Somebody go tell them Samsung made their screen
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Nah, don't lie to them. It's actually an LG screen.

digweed4me said:
What did u miss from iphone that sg2 android doesn't have?
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It's probably just me not doing it properly through settings, but -
I like the sound/silent switch on the side. I would switch it to silent, and it'd silence everything...period. When I did it with the E4GT at work, some notification still rang even with sound off.
I also like that when you close YouTube and go back, it'd pick up where you left off in iOS5. While with the E4GT, it'd stop loading the video altogether if I were to go to the home screen or to read a txt msg. But I'm still new to this, so there may be ways around this.
Although, I DO like the fact that you can shut off the screen on the E4GT while the YouTube video is playing and just listen to the sounds. (I like to listen to videos...long ones, to help the work day go by)
I suppose that's about it lol... I mean, the iPhone4 was solid, and it was very smooth. But meh, so is my E4GT.

naripsta said:
It's probably just me not doing it properly through settings, but -
I like the sound/silent switch on the side. I would switch it to silent, and it'd silence everything...period. When I did it with the E4GT at work, some notification still rang even with sound off.
I also like that when you close YouTube and go back, it'd pick up where you left off in iOS5. While with the E4GT, it'd stop loading the video altogether if I were to go to the home screen or to read a txt msg. But I'm still new to this, so there may be ways around this.
Although, I DO like the fact that you can shut off the screen on the E4GT while the YouTube video is playing and just listen to the sounds. (I like to listen to videos...long ones, to help the work day go by)
I suppose that's about it lol... I mean, the iPhone4 was solid, and it was very smooth. But meh, so is my E4GT.
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I have no problem with silent mode being silent...but...youtube resume is such a tiny little feature to implement but so god-damned awesome sounding. Why hasn't Google taken care of this? I mean, srsly, with all of the major heavy duty **** they take care of on a day-to-day basis why not this tiny little convenience?
It really does blow my mind how some manufacturers and major software developers (like Samsung and Google) can overlook such simple usability features. It's not like that feature is unique to youtube on iOS....it doesn't take more resources...it isn't complicated.

naripsta said:
I like the sound/silent switch on the side. I would switch it to silent, and it'd silence everything...period. When I did it with the E4GT at work, some notification still rang even with sound off.
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Yes this function on android is HORRIBLE! There are some pluses to having a million different sound controls. Like the ability to silence text messages at night, but leave phone on. But when I'm in the doctor office, or jury duty I want one button to silence EVERYTHING.
I can't remember exactly, but I think ginerbread is when they changed it to its current form.

Man, there are a whole lot of mads up in that comment section.
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digweed4me said:
What did u miss from iphone that sg2 android doesn't have?
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Gapless playback. I know that wasn't directed at me, but I just answered it anyways.
I traded my E4GT for an iPhone 4S. I needed that gapless playback because I work at a venue...Android just wasn't workin out that great.
I do kinda miss that E4GT battery life though... Apple lowballed iPhone users with the 5.x update(s). 5.0 was the best (battery wise) but we can't downgrade back to it...so we're all up the creek. This that bull****.

ms79723 said:
Gapless playback. I know that wasn't directed at me, but I just answered it anyways.
I traded my E4GT for an iPhone 4S. I needed that gapless playback because I work at a venue...Android just wasn't workin out that great.
I do kinda miss that E4GT battery life though... Apple lowballed iPhone users with the 5.x update(s). 5.0 was the best (battery wise) but we can't downgrade back to it...so we're all up the creek. This that bull****.
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You traded the phone because of gapless? Poweramp does gapless.

I can see where some of you guys are going with this. Since the original Iphone not much has changed. Yeah, the body of the phone sorta changed, some internals and a new screen...but the design hasn't. One reason I never went to the Iphone was due to the fact that everything is propriatary...battery non removable, charging port isn't micro usb..instead it's apples propriatary charger and last but not least...Micro SD card expansion...can't do that on an Iphone. The screen size hasnt changed and facetime is only over wifi. I'm glad I went with the ET4G...it does everything and more than I though it would.

E4GT enough said

eagercrow said:
You traded the phone because of gapless? Poweramp does gapless.
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Well gapless + no lag + good stock apps + reliability + better 3G speeds + better music app + other things.
Edit: and these are just my opinions folks. I miss being able to tinker with things...but that tinkering was messing with my time for homework and **** >.<

ms79723 said:
Well gapless + no lag + good stock apps + reliability + better 3G speeds + better music app + other things.
Edit: and these are just my opinions folks. I miss being able to tinker with things...but that tinkering was messing with my time for homework and **** >.<
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I understand most your reasons but the 3g speeds you must be one of the few lucky ones. Did you get the Iphone 4s on Sprint or a different carrier? Because Iphone Sprint 3g speeds were getting a lot of flack from users all around the country. I saw speedtest screen-shots in many blogs and they averaged below 1kbp/s.

Sprint Galaxy S3 Audio Hardware

I have been trying to get infos on US version of Galaxy S3 whether it is Wolfson DAC or not, but unable to get any confirmations from early receivers yet. So, in a hope of receiving something, Can anyone of you who received Sprint Galaxy S3 confirm its audio hardware whether it is Wolfson DAC?

Ummm which either one is the better one I think Wolfson its the same as the og epic one of the bigger reasons im getting the phone the amp chip on the s2 doesn't cut it like the epic did

If you searched you would find that it does have the Wolfson dac

jbadboy2007 said:
If you searched you would find that it does have the Wolfson dac
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Actually this is not so clear cut.
I have been following this for a few weeks and apparently at the samsung launch party it was asked and reported that it did.
But no one as far as I have seen has actually confirmed this for sure (physically or by driver)
Here is another discussion with plenty of disagreement
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721807&page=7
So...If a current user of the phone has the know how to extract this info I believe it would be helpful.
I would love to help but waiting for my 32 gb ..........

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If you searched you would find that it does have the Wolfson dac
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There is no confirmation as of today yet. I am hearing samsung rep said us version has it but there is no valid confirmation as of yet. If you searched and found source of confirmation please do share.
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bjrmd said:
Actually this is not so clear cut.
I have been following this for a few weeks and apparently at the samsung launch party it was asked and reported that it did.
But no one as far as I have seen has actually confirmed this for sure (physically or by driver)
Here is another discussion with plenty of disagreement
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721807&page=7
So...If a current user of the phone has the know how to extract this info I believe it would be helpful.
I would love to help but waiting for my 32 gb ..........
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It's in the international version and reps have said its in the us version. I'm pretty sure its in there

bjrmd said:
Here is another discussion with plenty of disagreement
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721807&page=7
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Probably while you were writing your post, AndreiLux confirmed that the U.S. versions do no use Wolfson by linking to the system configuration files in the released source code. Well, that answers that, unfortunately.

Voltage Spike said:
Probably while you were writing your post, AndreiLux confirmed that the U.S. versions do no use Wolfson by linking to the system configuration files in the released source code. Well, that answers that, unfortunately.
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welp, that sucks
wonder what else they stripped out?

Well, any audiophiles out there with some opinions as to how it sounds with decent equipment?

bjrmd said:
Well, any audiophiles out there with some opinions as to how it sounds with decent equipment?
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i heard its loud... that's all i've seen so far

I for one think that the GS3 sounds 2x better than my EVO3D

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I for one think that the GS3 sounds 2x better than my EVO3D
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The tests over at GSMArena agree with you. They found lots of distortion, noise, and lack of stereo separation.
At least the U.S. Galaxy S III models have excellent frequency reproduction. I mostly ignore the dynamic range (I think it's difficult to be sensitive to the minor variations in this regard). I'm just worried that the noise will be high enough to be perceptible, and it doesn't make me happy to know my headphone channels are mixing more than they should.

I bought voodoo plus for my epic. Tried to put it on here and says it's not compatible
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djjroc007 said:
I bought voodoo plus for my epic. Tried to put it on here and says it's not compatible
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You have to use Voodoo Louder.
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You have to use Voodoo Louder.
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voodoo louder does not suppourt our devices... yet

I guess I'm just more concerned as to whether the DAC is good or not.

SonicKnight said:
I guess I'm just more concerned as to whether the DAC is good or not.
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It all depends on how you look at it if you listen to raw "FLAC" format audio then DAC will make your phone sound beautiful but if your listening to lower quality mp3's then a compressor will defiantly do you well. All DAC is ;in a nutshell ; playing audio exactly the way it is.

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It all depends on how you look at it if you listen to raw "FLAC" format audio then DAC will make your phone sound beautiful but if your listening to lower quality mp3's then a compressor will defiantly do you well. All DAC is ;in a nutshell ; playing audio exactly the way it is.
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The audio DAC (as people are using it here) is an electronic system that converts the digital files stored/generated on your phone and allows you to hear them on your analog devices like headphones and the speaker. If it introduces distortion and noise, then it will do so regardless of the source material. You could argue that it doesn't matter with ten-year-old, low-quality MP3s, but it does matter somewhat.
Also, I'm not sure what you mean by a "compressor" in the context of playback.
Also keep in mind that, ultimately, it doesn't matter that much. The audio quality is going to be better than anything you might have listened to twenty years ago, and most people aren't going to notice unless you have a good set of earphones or speakers and are listening at a very loud or very quiet volume. If you tend to keep your volume around the middle of the "bar", I think you'll be hard-pressed to notice anything at the differences we are discussing here.

According to those tests the dac in the s4 krait is a actually superior to both the gs and gs2..and I can personally tell you my evo LTE sounds great with both my beats tours and klipsch ear buds

T989 vs Nexus 4g lte

I think its hiliarious but I have this friend who swears that his nexus is far better than my gs2. Yeah I have a slightly lower resolution but thats it. I have a proc that will oc to 1.86ghz, gpu that will oc up to what 320mhz. Oh wait I have an sd card slot whoot. He thinks that benchmarks dont tell the truth about a phone, well thats what they are made for to test, ram, cpu, graphics its all there. I guess you just cant convince everyone. It's funny because he says my phone is old and im not even using JB so that'll make it that much more quick when I upgrade. But what ev's
Just something to talk about, thought it was funny
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timenewton said:
I think its hiliarious but I have this friend who swears that his nexus is far better than my gs2. Yeah I have a slightly lower resolution but thats it. I have a proc that will oc to 1.86ghz, gpu that will oc up to what 320mhz. Oh wait I have an sd card slot whoot. He thinks that benchmarks dont tell the truth about a phone, well thats what they are made for to test, ram, cpu, graphics its all there. I guess you just cant convince everyone. It's funny because he says my phone is old and im not even using JB so that'll make it that much more quick when I upgrade. But what ev's
Just something to talk about, thought it was funny
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I think this phone matches nexus easily in every aspect almost. Nexus is not better. This phone has great developers and there's nothing it can't do that the nexus can.
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richardlibeau said:
I think this phone matches nexus easily in every aspect almost. Nexus is not better. This phone has great developers and there's nothing it can't do that the nexus can.
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Indeed.
Besides, the Nexus 4 thread is actually spammed with people having problems with the phone, phone "breaks" randomly in their pocket, pics of broken Nexus 4s, etc
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I gotta laugh at everyone that said the n4 blowwwwws the t989 out of the water in every way. Lol
First....go to the n4 forum and read the problems people are having.
Second ...a friend of mine got one...I played with it a bit. Severely unimpressed. Sure its speedy....but barely quicker than my t989. The display looks like crap compared to mine. And it simply seems fragile! Very!
I will hold on to my Hercules til it breaks or my contract ends and I feel like replacing it. Maybe. My phone does everything I want it too very well. So until phones will do my dishes and tune up my car....I'll maybe stick with what I got. Lol
As far as the n4 goes.....I doubt I'd even trade my phone for it. Actually ....no....I wouldn't.

Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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RushAOZ said:
Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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TOO FUNNY!!! LMAO......LET'S GET SOME MORE NOOBS IN HERE TO CRY SOME MORE.....PRICELESS!!!
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Had a T989 but switched to Nexus 4 and believe me this phone is better in every way... screen, battery life, look and feel, great build quality, super fast and smooth, the two gigs of ram makes multitasking a joy, and I don't have to wait for xda developers to bring me the latest updates... all I can say is get you one
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Galaxy S2 is a typical Samsung POS, the Nexus 4 is more akin in design to an iPhone. In other words, its insanely awesome
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lonz358 said:
Had a T989 but switched to Nexus 4 and believe me this phone is better in every way... screen, battery life, look and feel, great build quality, super fast and smooth, the two gigs of ram makes multitasking a joy, and I don't have to wait for xda developers to bring me the latest updates... all I can say is get you one
Think I will ask Santa to bring me one.......NOT!!! Maybe a Lexus but not a Nexus!!!!
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RushAOZ said:
Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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Lol. Where's your n4 then?
What a Dink! Lol
If XDA frowns upon opinions....let them say so....otherwise shhhhh. Wow!
P.s. the only crying I've seen in this thread is from you....crying about noobs and their inferior opinions. Lol

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lonz358 said:
Think I will ask Santa to bring me one.......NOT!!!
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Seriously though to each his own I like sg2 thats just my preference.. Some like htc and motorola phones to me most of them are ugly damn phones but just my opinion. You like what you want as long as your happy with it right? That"s all that counts in the end of the battle of the phones. I am happy with my hercules for now!!!

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Seriously though to each his own I like sg2 thats just my preference.. Some like htc and motorola phones to me most of them are ugly damn phones but just my opinion. You like what you want as long as your happy with it right? That"s all that counts in the end of the battle of the phones. I am happy with my hercules for now!!!
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+1. Well put!!

kj2112 said:
Lol. Where's your n4 then?
What a Dink! Lol
If XDA frowns upon opinions....let them say so....otherwise shhhhh. Wow!
P.s. the only crying I've seen in this thread is from you....crying about noobs and their inferior opinions. Lol
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I'm patiently waiting for shipping orders to finish. Then I'm selling this t989 and jumping ship back onto the Nexus. As far as what the guy up top said about development on the Nexus, clearly he's new to XDA. No phone has more dev support than the Nexus line does. In fact, much of your favorite AOSP roms were built and first released on Nexus devices. Not only that but Nexus devices always get Google's newest OS' first. The t989 doesn't even have full Jelly Bean GPU driver support.. you guys don't even know what project butter truly is yet.
Second, the t989s dual core s3/adreno 220 SoC cannot in anyway whatsoever compete with the quad s4 pro/adreno 320 SoC. You can clock this phone as high as you want and score 9000 on antutu and its still not enough to beat the 13,000 the s4 pro SoC averages.. and that's on stock builds.
Third, if you say the 720p IPS display isn't better than the 480p over saturated SAMOLED display on the t989, clearly you're either blind or couldn't tell a good display if one took a dump on your eyeballs. While blacks will never be as deep, color reproduction is much better on the Nexus 4. And if Voodoo follows suit like on the other Nexus devices, well be able to tweak and calibrate the screen to our will.
Battery life? Nexus 4 wins hands down. Build quality? The t989 looks like crap compared to the Nexus 4.
Working for T-Mobile, I've already played with about 4 Nexus 4s. They're beautiful devices. Super fast and smooth.
Now stop hating and come back to reality. This phone wasn't even better than the other GSIIs, let alone any flagship device released this year. We can all use the "my phone does everything well" excuse but frankly, so can my old single core Nexus S.
With that being said, you kids can continue making up all sorts of crazyness up in trying to justify your purchase over a brand new handset that's better in every conceivable way. It makes for some great comedy.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium

Don't take it so personal is all. No one was "crying" and some don't need the fastest phone on earth to be perfectly happy.
Seems the phone crowd has some min/maxers....which is fine ...their choice. I don't have a top of the line gaming computer either....my laptop "does what I want it to do" just fine. Just like my Hercules.
I will be keeping this phone for some time. I could buy an n4, or anything else for that matter, tomorrow .....but I feel no need to. That's me. Maybe not you.
Can't we all use whatever phone we want without the hate?
Read the n4 forum....many....many people saying the same things I said about the n4....I didnt make a call tho....so guess I missed out on hearing the buzzing everyone is excited about! Lol. Bottom line....for me.....never bought an LG product I was happy with.
Take care dude....guess you'll be off to live in the n4 forums!

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Don't take it so personal is all. No one was "crying" and some don't need the fastest phone on earth to be perfectly happy.
Seems the phone crowd has some min/maxers....which is fine ...their choice. I don't have a top of the line gaming computer either....my laptop "does what I want it to do" just fine. Just like my Hercules.
I will be keeping this phone for some time. I could buy an n4, or anything else for that matter, tomorrow .....but I feel no need to. That's me. Maybe not you.
Can't we all use whatever phone we want without the hate?
Read the n4 forum....many....many people saying the same things I said about the n4....I didnt make a call tho....so guess I missed out on hearing the buzzing everyone is excited about! Lol. Bottom line....for me.....never bought an LG product I was happy with.
Take care dude....guess you'll be off to live in the n4 forums!
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Well see, your opinion makes sense. I can dig that. Unfortunately that's not the OPs reasoning as he full out stated that the t989 is better. You can be happy with whatever device you want. You can't take that away from anyone. But facts are facts. And this device doesn't come anywhere close to a Nexus 4. That's all I'm saying.
Anyways this thread is troll bait. Someone close it lol
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Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol

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Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol
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I won't. I haven't even dropped my t989 once in the 9 months I've had it. Don't jinx me though! And yea I told them to troll. This thread is troll bait. Thought it would make for a good show > haha
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Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol
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Dropped it twice, waist high, No problems here seriously it's a phone with glass, just like the t989(don't think the t989 has gorilla glass 2 though) but if your not careful its going to break like every other phone.
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As a former T989 owner and a current nexus 4 owner, this thread makes me laugh (and I was running AOKP jellybean on mine). Don't get me wrong, I loved my hercules and it is still a great phone, but let's be realistic here. The nexus 4 is hands down a better device in almost every way possible.
Screen
The display is far from "carp". Yes, if you are used to AMOLED displays (like the one on the T989), you will initially find the colors to be "washed out". But in reality, this is because AMOLED screens have grossly over-saturated and unrealistic colors. The blacks are not as deep as AMOLED but they are damn close (again this is due to the nature of IPS displays). Nexus 4 screen is much much sharper, the whites are actually white (and not blue like the one on the T989) and colors are more natural. There is a reason why most reviewers rate is as one of the best displays on any phone. IMO, there is no competition here.
Performance
Again, there is a big difference here (even with JB on the T989). Nexus 4 is smoother and snappier in general use. But heavy usage like gaming is where the biggest difference lies. As for benchmarks, the lower than expected scores are due to benchmark programs not being optimised for 4.2 (go see the difference between the new and old version of Antutu). And honestly, in reality, benchmarks don't mean s***. All I need to know is that this phone handles everything I throw at it without any hiccups and certainly much better than the T989. If you think that a two gen old dual core with 1 Gb ram preforms as a well as the current top end quad core with twice the ram, you are delusional.
Storage and battery
Storage is the only area where T989 has an advantage with its micro sd slot. If you are the type of person that needs to store all of your life on your phone then nexus 4 is not for you. Personally, I barely store anything on my phone (I had used up only about 4 gb of the internal space on my t989) as everything is on the cloud, so even the 8GB nexus 4 is more than enough. Again this is a personal thing so it's a disadvantage for some people but not others.
Battery life for me has been much better on the nexus 4 than on the t989. Obviously, everyone's usage is different so this will vary from person to person, but I'm extremely happy with mine.
Build quality
Here again, there is no competition. The nexus 4 has a much more solid build and has a very premium feel to it. My T989's plastic back started to creak like crazy just after a few days of owning it and it drove me crazy. I thought I was using a low-end entry level device rather than a premium product.
Yes the nexus has a glass back and yes glass cracks when you drop it...who knew huh? So if you are the type to drop your phone frequently, don't buy it or just get a case for it, end of story.
As for the problems being reported, very few newly released devices are without issues and this is a fact. T989 had it's fair share of problems, some of which have still not been fixed till this day (sticky power button anyone?). If you are someone who can't handle even a minor problem with your device, than a newly released phone is not for you (whether it be a nexus 4 or something else). And let's not forget that problems reported on online forums can be blown out of proportion. After all, only those who have issues are going to complain, while those without issues will probably remain silent. Personally, my nexus 4 is flawless, except for the slight static/buzzing problem from the earpiece reported by many people. However, this noise is very faint and inaudible during calls, so this is a non-issue for me. I'm confident that google will fix the issue and when they do, I will ask them to send me a replacement. After all, that's what the warranty is there for. In the mean time, I'm really enjoying owning this phone over my t989.
Oh and let's not forget about the pure android experience and the fact that you will get updates as soon as google releases them. Even if you are into modding, the nexus is the best phone for that as well as its modding community has always been the strongest out of any android phone. You guys really need to step back and look at things objectively here. As someone who has owned and lived with both phones, I can tell you that there is no competition between the two.