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Coming from HW QWERTY...

Phone arrives tomorrow. I am eager to love it but anxious about the lack of a hardware QWERTY. My Droid 3 was unbeatable, could manage laptop speeds of typing on it and I wouldn't be onto the One had I not broken it despite its Motorola locked down badness and GB!
What do you recommend I do to make typing the best experience possible - I havent used any OSK's for ages really. Swiftkey I've seen a lot of good things about?
Finally, landscape or portrait typing? OH! And haptic feedback or not?
Cheers.

Swiftkey is good, also try ICS Keyboard (market version of the stock ICS keyboard which is great), and Swype if you like the swipey-style typing.
Swype is best for swiping, SwiftKey is best for predictions and ICS keyboard is best for aesthetics/pure typing, IMO. Personal preference, really.

if you didn't know, people actually type much quicker using on-screen keypad technology than on a qwerty keyboard

hello00 said:
if you didn't know, people actually type much quicker using on-screen keypad technology than on a qwerty keyboard
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True.

Do they? I chose the X over the S because of the larger screen to help me, I hope this is the case.
I couldn't do it on my Milestone, G1, Droid 3 or my Dads iPhone.
From what my mates say, they say they get used to it but I'll watch them type and they'll be very innaccurate, and pretty slow.
All noticed from iPhone users by the way... The prediction is awful on there and I can't recall seeing any suggestions above the keyboard.
Thanks guys. I guess I'll wait and see what its like tomorrow!!

hello00 said:
if you didn't know, people actually type much quicker using on-screen keypad technology than on a qwerty keyboard
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Really?
That makes no sense to me, I can type much faster on a hardware keyboard.
It is true that the world speed record is held by a software keyboard but that was using swype which isn't really typing.
Back to the original question; You'll miss your HW keyboard, but you'll get used to a software one pretty quickly. It's a shame they don't make many top-end phones with them any more (my 3 year old T-Mobile G1 still has the best keyboard I've ever used! )

The droid 3 is unbelievable. I broke the effer so Im back onto my G1, and its hellish after being on a dual core with big screen and battery... im limited to good old fashioned texts really... and the KB is worn out. What a phone that was...
Im hoping the Droid 5 (if there ever is one) is one of these new Nexus devices that are being touted.
Slim quad core and QWERTY. Yes please.
Until then I'm sure the X will suffice

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Really?
That makes no sense to me, I can type much faster on a hardware keyboard.
It is true that the world speed record is held by a software keyboard but that was using swype which isn't really typing.
Back to the original question; You'll miss your HW keyboard, but you'll get used to a software one pretty quickly. It's a shame they don't make many top-end phones with them any more (my 3 year old T-Mobile G1 still has the best keyboard I've ever used! )
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no they were not, they were using an iphone's on screen keyboard and you type so much faster since you don't have to actually press down on the keys..on screen keyboard you need only graze the letter and it shows up on the screen..i'm not the only one saying this, but 100+ ppl..

Thinking of making the jump to note 2

My upgrade comes next month and I wanna hear from those who switched from the og note to the note 2. Was it worth it to you? How is the phone performance? How about development? I've been watching this forum closely and I look forward to any input you might have. Thanks in advance.
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LittleRedDot said:
My upgrade comes next month and I wanna hear from those who switched from the og note to the note 2. Was it worth it to you? How is the phone performance? How about development? I've been watching this forum closely and I look forward to any input you might have. Thanks in advance.
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I went from the HTC Desire HD to the Samsung Galaxy SII, and now, to the Samsung Note II.
The size takes a bit getting used to. I'm still trying to use the back button with my left thumb, which just can't reach across. I have tiny hands. But other than that, I love the screen when I'm watching or reading something. The S-Pen adds a totally new dimension that I didn't expect before. I don't mean just the handwriting recognition or being able to get your cursor where you want. Being able to do screenshots, crop and annotate them is super useful, at least to me.
Aside from that, performance is what i'd expect from a brand new phone; everything is snappy and smooth. The battery lasts me the whole day (8am to when I sleep, 11pm or so?) rather than just half a day (have to charge before I leave work). I consider myself a moderate to high user: I've used 5gb out of 6gb of my quota (around 1gb for google reader alone), but most of it was for tethering.
The Samsung stock keyboard was surprisingly useful. They snuck in that word prediction feature from Swiftkey (well, i bought swiftkey from before) and it's finally took me away from the compact qwerty layout I've been using since the first Blackberry Pearl (2006).
Lots of little Samsung'isms all over the place. Little tilt motion things, not turning off when you're reading, keeping orientation when you lie down in bed while reading ... it's useful!
Things I'm not impressed with:
Not enough S-Pen specific apps. Not really Samsung's fault, I know they've been trying to motivate developers
Screen is too bright sometimes in the dark. I think it might be me not figuring out how to set it yet
Size. Both its strength and its weakness.
TouchWiz. Okay, this is personal preference for sure. But I replaced this with one of the many 3rd party launchers available, so it's okay.
Language Support, in particular East Asian language handwriting recognition support. Again, 3rd party. Most people won't need this, I'm guessing.
Not being able to save apps to the SD card. I don't know why, But I haven't been able to find the function. I only got the 16gb one, so I'm scared it's going to fill up.
That's all I can think of right now.

Download "screen filter" to solve the brightness problem. I use it every night and every morning. Regarding the apps2sd, well you can't without rooting. Some idiot at Google decided to remove that feature which is completely insane. I only reason to do this imo is because they (Google) are planning on releasing a console in th near future. A console which would probably not sell so well after we upgrade our just as powerful smartphones after 2 years and use them as a console instead. Whatever the reasons it is bad for us, bad for developers, bad for android and bad for sd card makers. The funny thing is that Samsung boasts about the expandable storage!!

I just recently switched myself and all I can say is wow! This phone is something else. I am really starting to love this phone. (coming from iP4s by the way) Its been a week now and I have no regrets at all. I still have a lot to learn about the full potential of the phone.
I do miss some of the simplicities of the iP4s IOS but just love the performance of this phone.
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LittleRedDot said:
My upgrade comes next month and I wanna hear from those who switched from the og note to the note 2. Was it worth it to you? How is the phone performance? How about development? I've been watching this forum closely and I look forward to any input you might have. Thanks in advance.
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I came from the Note 1. And everything is better faster etc etc on the Note 2. On the Note 1 I had it rooted and custom ROM'd and on the Note 2 I have not felt the need to do any of that...yet. The battery is bananas...I got almost 5 hours screen time and 1 1/2 days stand by on a single charge...I also still had 25% left in the tank. That alone makes it an easy choice. The main reason I was doing the custom roms on the Note 1 was to kill some of the bloat and apps I didnt need to save battery life. With the Note 2 it doesnt seem needed.

Swiftkey 3 on two devices?

I want Swiftkey 3 on my new Nexus 7 I got today (yay!). But if I buy it, is it a tablet version and it means I have to buy another version for my Nexus 4 that is due soon? i.e. do I have to pay twice?
Thanks,
Jon

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I want Swiftkey 3 on my new Nexus 7 I got today (yay!). But if I buy it, is it a tablet version and it means I have to buy another version for my Nexus 4 that is due soon? i.e. do I have to pay twice?
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i think so, and soon you might have to pay again for swift key flow.

I'm using the Phone version on the nexus 7 and on the xperia s! And i must say on the nexus 7 is better! I installed the tablet version but it sucks! The tablet one is for 10" display!
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Bought SwiftKey phone version. I am astonished at how good it is! So accurate in prediction right out the gate. Also, the voice dictation integration is awesome too. Makes the iPhone keyboard look incredibly dated.

I got SK3 free as Amazon app a while back. I never loaded it until today, loaded fine on my N7. Not really going to use until "Flow" is added, but I do bet it's a totally separate app you need to buy. If so sticking with android swipe.

Yea I have phone version. Works great on n7 though I will buy flow.

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i think so, and soon you might have to pay again for swift key flow.
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No I think they'll just update the current apps like they did with Swiftkey 3, when the free flow beta testing is over.

I use the tablet version on the N7, it's just fine, but pretty sure the Phone version would work just fine. I own both, but I keep Phone on phones, Tablet on tablets..
I like the split keyboard in landscape mode.

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No I think they'll just update the current apps like they did with Swiftkey 3, when the free flow beta testing is over.
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yea I read somewhere yesterday that it will be an update to the existing SK3 app

[Q] Keyboard sugestions! plus other minor questions.

Hello!
I'm moving up to this phone very soon, and had one big question about how well the built-in onscreen keyboard functions.
A bit of history:
Every Android phone I've ever owned that i considered my main device has had a physical keyboard. When my Samsung Epic broke about a month ago, I had a couple of spares to work with as a backup, so I was able to experiement with the HTC EVO and Motorola Photon. A very new concept to me, using an onscreen keyboard. I forever hated it, but after using the EVO for a month, I got incredibly used to it.
For my experience: I can't stand the EVO keyboard. I much prefer the one on the photon, or even the default AOSP one.
How is the keyboard that comes bundled on the optimus G? Does the screen size have any effect on how different typing with the keyboard would be compared to a phone such as the EVO, almost a whole inch smaller? How is the Haptic feedback? That's actually a pretty big thing that would start to bother me on my Epic, whenever I had opened the on screen keyboard for a quick password or such. (My epic had little to no haptic feedback, I suspect the vibrate motor was shot.) Having good haptic feedback on a keypress is as close I'll get to the tactile response of such from a physical keyboard.
I still intend on picking this phone up, regardless if they keyboard turns out to be lackluster, but if that's the case, maybe a third party keyboard could fill the gap.
How about third party keyboards? There's a lot of them out there, and I have no idea where to start.
Sorry if this is the wrong thread. I contemplated posting this under apps because of the last bit, but stuck it here as it has to do with the typing functionality.
Thanks!

Hi! The last phone I owned with a physical keyboard was the palm pre. I was the same as u thinking it would be difficult getting adjusted to soft key. IMO, the 4.7in screen is the sweet spot for typing. You'll get used to it pretty quick. I suggest getting swiftkey app, because of the word prediction feature. And as far as typing, it's extremely responsive! More so than my Galaxy S2. On my S2, it couldn't really handle the wpm i was typing. It would lag! This lgog can keep up! Oh ya, and the hepatic feedback is also top notch. No lag either.
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The stock keyboard isn't bad at all. I actually like it better than a lot of the onscreen keyboards on other phones. It's very clean, attractive, and functional. I actually just switched back to it to type this, and it works great! And I totally agree, 4.7 inch screen is a great size for keyboards.
My personal preference is Swiftkey. I have tried and own almost all of the major keyboards that you'll find in the app store. None of them really compare to Swiftkey, so if you're thinking of trying one out, then start with Swiftkey.

Thanks for the responses! I'll definitely give SwiftKey a try. It's good to know that the stock keyboard has some positive feedback as well.

I prefer the stock JB keyboard on my nexus7. Is there a way to turn off the LG keyboard and use the JB version? I tried to un check it under settings but it seems to be locked ON.

cremator75 said:
I prefer the stock JB keyboard on my nexus7. Is there a way to turn off the LG keyboard and use the JB version? I tried to un check it under settings but it seems to be locked ON.
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just download jellybean keyboard from playstore and im pretty sure it has a guide

G3 letdown?

Coming from the note 3 I'd say overall this phone is better, but there's some problems with the software. At least that's what I'm guessing. When I switch to app alternatives it runs great.
For instance the keyboard feels ungodly awful. Spacebar recognizes only half my taps, and the auto correct feels poorly utilized. I have to manually select dictionary suggestions. Going to SwiftKey and there's no problems. I'd love to actually test the g3 keyboard features but It's almost unusable.
Window transitions also seem to lag a bit and I see redraws. But I also notice it sometimes too navigating settings menu.
So what do you guys think, how's the software? Should I simply flash another rom ?
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Honestly the only thing I agree with you on is the keyboard but I upgraded from a gs3.

I love the phone so far. I switched from the S5. This phone feels allot like the s5 but it runs better in my opinion. I have a problem plugging things in the headphone jack. Sometimes the phone recognizes it and sometimes it doesn't.
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Are we not able to use Google keyboard?

Nitemare3219 said:
Are we not able to use Google keyboard?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.inputmethod.latin

Not sure why people post this, if you don't like it take it back. Problem solved..

The keyboard turns off auto correct out of box but leaves suggestions. When typing the two word on the left and right are suggested spellings if they are misspelled and you just swipe up on the left or right side to auto fix the word.

Coming from the note 3 I don't agree your phone is faulty keyboard is far better than the note 3. Go to your keyword setting and look around I will suggest. Only agree with window transition but it's far less laggier than the note 3

I say it's OK because I will install Google Cantonese Keyboard anyway (unfortunately, Samsung keyboards does not support ChangJei - one of the reasons I drop Samsung phones).

I came from a Note 3 as well. On it I miss the AMOLED, USB 3.0, and the S-Pen. On the G3i like the smaller form factor while keeping the larger screen and the resolution. The G3 does have some bugs I don't like though, such as my keyboard would keep reverting to the LG one until I froze it. I don't think either is better, just slightly different.

Tbh I think the lg keyboard is the worst I've ever used. I uninstalled it and I'm on the android l keyboard now

There was an update today for the keyboard.. Seems to make it much smoother and word suggestions appear as you swype and not after.. Looks to be big improvements. Also added emoji's into word suggestions . Give it a try!

I am trying this keyboard instead of using Google's and it seems to be okay.

mgbotoe said:
Coming from the note 3 I don't agree your phone is faulty keyboard is far better than the note 3. Go to your keyword setting and look around I will suggest. Only agree with window transition but it's far less laggier than the note 3
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I agree. I absolutely love the keyboard once I went into settings and set things the way I wanted them.

Eckono said:
I love the phone so far. I switched from the S5. This phone feels allot like the s5 but it runs better in my opinion. I have a problem plugging things in the headphone jack. Sometimes the phone recognizes it and sometimes it doesn't.
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I heard about that issue and LG is denying that its a hardware issue.. I think it may be a software bug but who knows i havent had the problem so i wouldnt know but try going back to your tmobile store if that is where you got it from if not then... you're screwed :silly:

I don't focus on stock things like keyboards which can be easily swapped for something else. I'm used to the Google Keyboard and just use it with any device, problem solved.
Personally I like my devices as close to stock Android, and with Root + Xposed you can pretty much get there. The only thing I really use that's LG's is the camera app, and it's quite good. People complain about the camera app too -- well guess what, you can load other cameras too - either the stock Google Camera or FV-5, A Better Camera, etc.

I'm coming from an HTC M8. I loved the M8 but I dropped it in a pool and TMobile gave me the option of either getting a refurb replacement via the insurance I pay for or getting a different phone. As much as I loved the M8, I took a new phone. Mostly because I wanted a larger screen again, but other than the size of the screen and maybe the camera (camera isn't a real big issue though) I loved the M8.
I will agree that I don't like the stock keyboard. But being on Android, we can change that. I've put my trusted and true Swype on and i'm back in business.
I've seen people complain about lag in the UI and there is a non root fix for that using a service phone number and changing a setting. I did notice a pinch of that lag and applied the change and it seems to have cleared up. http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-fix-lag-on-lg-g3-without-root/ if anyone is interested.
The 4K screen is more than a phone needs but isn't the reason why I chose the phone. Its pretty, plenty bright for me and yes, I was using it outside during the day and it was bring and clear enough for me. The battery is good too. I notice that when the screen is on, the battery is faster ( /duh) but when the screen is off, the battery practically doesn't go down. I have a 10,000MaH battery to recharge my devices on the go so if I it dies I can use that or guy a 2nd battery to swap. But I have an office IT job so I am never far away from a plug.
I am quite impressed with the camera though. I will always use my DSLR for important shots but this phone has a good camera and the autofocus is stupid fast.
I'm quite happy with the G3 and won't be taking it anywhere near a pool. I've had at least 7 smart phones and the M8 was the first I broke. Cost me $175 for my clumsiness.

johnomaz said:
I've seen people complain about lag in the UI and there is a non root fix for that using a service phone number and changing a setting. I did notice a pinch of that lag and applied the change and it seems to have cleared up. http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-fix-lag-on-lg-g3-without-root/ if anyone is interested.
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I'll be damned...these changed settings did kill the lag issue on mine..it took a few seconds after the second boot, maybe 15-20, but suddenly it was like I was running Nova or Apex with 0 Animations. Good catch, thanks, and welcome to G3! Cheers!

Why do people miss samoled screens? Sorry but that black can suck it with the dark banding while scrolling crap. The absolute best keyboard is the Xperia one hands down. It literally took the best features from each keyboard and packed it into one. Just wish they had a theme option besides the only 3 stock ones.
I should be getting a G3 next month and can't wait. Size wise it's a downgrade from a Z Ultra but I'll be keeping it around as a tablet so to speak.

The keyboard out of the box is terrible.
However, after customizing it to my liking, it's honestly one of the better keyboards I've ever used. The update happened a day or two after I bought it as well, so perhaps that had something to do with it.
I came from the Note 3 as well, and I couldn't stand the keyboard on that (though I liked the device overall).