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I currently have the Galaxy Note 10.1, which currently has most of the features that the Note II already has, and soon to get more whenever they roll out JB.
I quite like the Note 10.1 and think that the Note II is quite a nice piece of equipment. But, I have this overwhelming feeling that the Note II's features will be redundant considering I have the tablet. That, or it'd make my tablet a bit useless, depends on how you look at it.
So, my question is, do you guys think I should buy the Galaxy Note II or the Galaxy S III? I also seen that the new LG Nexus 4 is quite nice, but with the flaw of not having expandable storage from what I've been able to gather. Or, do you guys have any phones that you would recommend that's pretty high end and expected to be good? I'm not buying my phone for at least a month, so I'm starting my research now.
The Note 2 is a perfect combination of a phone and a tablet. You can utilize it for both purposes easily. I strongly recommend it.
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The Note 2 is a perfect combination of a phone and a tablet. You can utilize it for both purposes easily. I strongly recommend it.
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Thank you for your recommendation. I'm going to do more digging into the phones to see what would be the best for me. But I'm unfortunately one of those techies that like my equipment to be high end and very pretty..
Question is really.. what do you do on your phone? watch movies? alot of web browsing?
i love my note 2 cos i do just that.. watch movies, listen to music, surf on the web reading news, forums.
couldnt live with anything smaller now. and me and my G/F use the pen daily.
if you like the Note 10.1 i think you cant go wrong with note 2 if you can stand the size
heatfire said:
Question is really.. what do you do on your phone? watch movies? alot of web browsing?
i love my note 2 cos i do just that.. watch movies, listen to music, surf on the web reading news, forums.
couldnt live with anything smaller now. and me and my G/F use the pen daily.
if you like the Note 10.1 i think you cant go wrong with note 2 if you can stand the size
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Well, on my current phone (Galaxy W CM9 Beta 1) I used to do a lot of web browsing, but, my current phone right now isn't playing very nice with me and Dolphin. I tend to do a lot of texting, as well. If I have the time in college or out and about I may watch a few things, depending on battery. It does seem like a brilliant choice. But, the 5.5 inches does sound rather insane! But the pen does come in handy a great deal. The Note II is the top contender for me, right now. No other phone even amounts to how amazing it is to me.
Note 2 is simply the best phone yet. And size is really good. Felt like it was designed for me after several hours of use. And the battery is so goood
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Well, I think it's decided! Thank you guys. I really do need something with good battery. I was worried that with the massive screen and overwhelming processor that the poor wee battery wouldn't be able to cope! The Galaxy W has terrible battery life when the data is active, which is something I tend to use a lot.
the size is huge but you get used to it, and i gotta say i love the pen for writing notes you can have a small notepad pop up every time you remove the pen im not a huge fan of onscreen keyboards and writing with the pen is very comfortable with almost no lag on the input.
was in the hospital for 4 days and the note 1 phone saved me with its huge screen, i watched youtube and movies and never felt the screen beeing to small or got eyestrain from its size.
Battery time is amazing on the note 2 also. about 8 hours watching movies twice what the first note could do, and the same the iphone 5 can do
ive seen some reports of even 10 hours watching movies
i dont see my phone as large any more, its normal its the other phones thats small.. smartphones should be about 5" with all this CPU power!
You should buy the note 2 because there is no other phone on the market now that can perform better than it benchmark test prove that.
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I currently have the Galaxy Note 10.1, which currently has most of the features that the Note II already has, and soon to get more whenever they roll out JB.
I quite like the Note 10.1 and think that the Note II is quite a nice piece of equipment. But, I have this overwhelming feeling that the Note II's features will be redundant considering I have the tablet. That, or it'd make my tablet a bit useless, depends on how you look at it.
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I'm betting the note 2 is going to make your tablet redundant and not the other way around. You'd probably find yourself using the phone more than the tablet because how much easier it is to hold on to and take with you on the go.
Tablet functions on a phone that fits into my pocket? Yes, please.
My advice, sell the note 10.1 before the value goes down too much if you plan to get the note 2.
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I'm betting the note 2 is going to make your tablet redundant and not the other way around. You'd probably find yourself using the phone more than the tablet because how much easier it is to hold on to and take with you on the go.
Tablet functions on a phone that fits into my pocket? Yes, please.
My advice, sell the note 10.1 before the value goes down too much if you plan to get the note 2.
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See, I use the tablet for note taking in college. Well, that's what I bought it for, at least. It arrived as my classes got to the point where I wasn't getting taught anything. So that's on hold for a month or so. I also use it for organisation with the calender for things such as college assessments and important dates. So I'd have the calender synced on both devices, which might increase productivity. I'm using it for app creation, whenever I get back into it, too. It's also used for when I need to use stuff like remote desktop, or take it out with me for when I go to fix up computers, or do work on my own, as well as general web browsing. And I use it for guitar, as well. One of the best uses I've found for it!
The Note II will make some of the features in my tablet useless, but I do use it for a great deal which the Note II couldn't do as well due to is smaller size. Being a programmer and musician, the screen, the better the results. I do admit that certain things will be used less, but certain things will be boosted, too. I've only just began to explore the uses for the tablet.
When note7000 came I regret buying it. When I heard of note7100 ive learned. I know that's the one I've been waiting. The next big thing right in my hands no regrets.
"This thing is BIG" .... that's what she said
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See, I use the tablet for note taking in college. Well, that's what I bought it for, at least. It arrived as my classes got to the point where I wasn't getting taught anything. So that's on hold for a month or so. I also use it for organisation with the calender for things such as college assessments and important dates. So I'd have the calender synced on both devices, which might increase productivity. I'm using it for app creation, whenever I get back into it, too. It's also used for when I need to use stuff like remote desktop, or take it out with me for when I go to fix up computers, or do work on my own, as well as general web browsing. And I use it for guitar, as well. One of the best uses I've found for it!
The Note II will make some of the features in my tablet useless, but I do use it for a great deal which the Note II couldn't do as well due to is smaller size. Being a programmer and musician, the screen, the better the results. I do admit that certain things will be used less, but certain things will be boosted, too. I've only just began to explore the uses for the tablet.
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After looking at your list it would still seem the note 10.1 is a waste. I'm a programmer as well but not a musician. A laptop note 2 combo should beat out a note 2, note 10.1 combo for school related task by a long shot and both could sink to Google calendar. As a programmer I would hate to be stuck with all my devices running a mobile OS not to mention the added weight I would be force to endure from carrying all those devices. When fixing pc's I want the fastest and easiest to use device possible and there the note 2 would again beat out the 10.1 and not mention since it is a phone we'd always be carrying it.
It seems like the only real area it would shine is the musician route for your guitar and for that it seems overpriced. Of course this is all my opinion so please don't take any offensive to it.
If you get the note 2 you will end up selling the note 10.1... I own a note 1 (waiting for my note 2 to arrive) and I had a galaxy tab 10.1 p7500.. I bought my tab back when I had a gnexus and was very useful but since I got the note 1, I didn't use my tab at all so I've sold it because it was just a dust collector...
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After looking at your list it would still seem the note 10.1 is a waste. I'm a programmer as well but not a musician. A laptop note 2 combo should beat out a note 2, note 10.1 combo for school related task by a long shot and both could sink to Google calendar. As a programmer I would hate to be stuck with all my devices running a mobile OS not to mention the added weight I would be force to endure from carrying all those devices. When fixing pc's I want the fastest and easiest to use device possible and there the note 2 would again beat out the 10.1 and not mention since it is a phone we'd always be carrying it.
It seems like the only real area it would shine is the musician route for your guitar and for that it seems overpriced. Of course this is all my opinion so please don't take any offensive to it.
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I see where you're coming from, and I'm happy with your input. The Note 10.1 is brilliant for college related stuff because I have a desktop, meaning with my Note 10.1 I'm able to sit downstairs to study. It's also great for college because of how light weight it is. I just pop it in my bag and off I go. The way I use it is quite productive, for me. When fixing PC's it's normally so that I can have certain things up on the screen such as instructions, videos and what not, meaning the bigger screen is still more efficient. I normally have my bag with me when fixing PC's so it's again, on my person and easily carried. I went with the Note 10.1 over a laptop because of 1.) It's lighter 2.) Faster to boot up and operate, since everything in android is small (for the most part) and 3.) A laptop would be a waste, considering I have a high-end desktop. I did plan out what I needed before making the decision of getting one. As a programmer, though.. I work on Visual Studio for college and my own C# projects, but with Android - when I go to learn to develop on it - I will be programming with a mixture of AIDE and Eclipse. AIDE is an APK in android that lets you design apps straight from your device, then build and test them, too. It also syncs with your workspace for on the go.
But, I do thank you for your honesty. My set up is ideal for me, so far. Just that my phones a bit rubbish because of the lack of ram. I still need to look more into what is out there. Money is a bit of a factor so if I can get something that's pretty great with a lower price tag I'll probably jump on it.
aaah galaxy note 2 may be best for me
very helpfull thread after reading through this thread i think i am gonna buy not 2 only i have this old galaxy S which i think needs a replacement :cyclops: few days back i saw this galaxy note 2 in a show room since then i doubted whether to buy such a big phone or not but now i think i will buy it as soon as i collect enough resources i mainly use android phones to play games
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very helpfull thread after reading through this thread i think i am gonna buy not 2 only i have this old galaxy S which i think needs a replacement :cyclops: few days back i saw this galaxy note 2 in a show room since then i doubted whether to buy such a big phone or not but now i think i will buy it as soon as i collect enough resources i mainly use android phones to play games
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If you want an android phone for gaming I'd recommend a T3 device like the HTC One X+. T3 has exclusive THD games however Gameloft games don't work as well as not optimised properly for T3.
None the less GN2 is still packing some gaming power behind it.
A simple answer to your question is. If you are buying a smart phone now, than buy Note 2. Why settle for something less, when the next big thing is already here. Lol
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A simole answer to your question is. If youbare buying a snart phone now, than buy Note 2. Why settle for aomething less, when the next big thing is already here. Lol
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Aha, top lad! I'm hoping that the 32Gb/64Gb version is out by next month! Samsung never have enough chips to actually release those modes. (
I'm not going to lie.. I'm nervous about buying this phone. I've been a slider user forever and love my old trust worthy Galaxy S running Cyanogenmod's Jellybean port. It really does everything I want.
But I've been thinking about buying a tablet lately and maybe going the Note II route is a better option for me.
If you own one of these phones and have been using it for a couple of weeks and feel like sharing, what do you see as the pro's and con's of this phone?
Con 1 for me - no keyboard.
I love mine - I do a ton of typing and use numbers and characters all the time - switching with a touch screen keyboard to type something like k3yb0ard takes me 2 or 3 times longer using a screen then it does with my keyboard (I've timed it using everything from the stock keyboard to swype)
Pro's - pretty much everything hardware related but the lack of keyboard.
How stable is root on this phone? Everything running nicely? Overclocking? Good ROM and Kernel support? Beats audio? Voltage Control (or other overclocking apps)? All the usual phone root/modding goodies.
Is there a good portable keyboad that works with this phone? (bluetooth, small enough to carry in a pocket also, good battery life) That may be a solution when I'm doing a lot of emails or typing a lot of mixed format msgs.
Anyway, thanks for your answers.
The keyboard thing can be an issue. I know it was for me when I went from a HTC Touch Pro 2 to the EVO 3D. However, after a while I got used to it and it is second nature now. What's nice is the Note 2 takes it a step further. You can use the sPen to HANDWRITE your message instead of using the touch keyboard. It will translate your handwriting to text. I am just starting to get a handle on using the sPen to it's fullest. The new multi-window option is nice too(have a split screen with 2 app running at the same time).
The root on this is solid. It's an easy step by step process, with prebuilt programs that do all the work. The only real difference here is the Samsung counter that counts how many times you have loaded a custom ROM. Anything past 0 will prevent warranty work. BUT there is a program that can reset it and also the original stock tars are out there.
ROM development is lacking a bit right now because it is new. However, I am already seeing an increase in custom ROMs in just the last week or so. So it will get going. It may not get to the level of say the S3 but I think it will be good.
Hope this helps.
The screen is so large that typing on a virtual keyboard is much easier than it used to be.
I had a physical QWERTY fascination starting with the G1 and ending most recently with the MT4G Slide. I have to say that I don't have any moments where I long for a hardware keyboard with this device.
The voice input of Jelly Bean is amazing as well. If you are in a service area or wifi area, it works VERY nicely.
I also recently purchased a Logitech BT keyboard that allows me to use the Note II like a touchscreen netbook. Samsung's Smart Dock will most likely allow a keyboard, mouse, spare USB port and HDMI for only $100, so I consider that to be an option for some.
Even the smallish Samsung swypable keyboard that pops up in Multiview types quite well.
I don't think you will be disappointed with the input options that this device will allow you. Plus, the flatness in your pocket is something that you won't ever get in a slider. This giant phone actually feels better in my pocket than my 3.6" MT4GS did. I even have moments where I need to check if the phone is there. (Side note: I'm an adult and I wear the proper size pants at the proper waist level, sagging's for kids)
I understand where you are coming from.. I had a slider phone myself a few years ago and missed the physical keyboard.. I had an epic 4G touch previously and the screen was cramped for me since I have big hands.. But typing on the note 2 is great due to the large screen and I use swift key and you can increase the keyboard size.(also trying in portrait mode =AWSOME, so much more room lol) . Plus the haptic feed back when pressing keys makes it feel more like a physical keyboard
As far as root its way beyond solid... The customer kernel runs nice.. You can over clock to 1.8..I haven't yet since the phone is so smooth out the box.. I might over clock one day.. The unlimited multi windows is a bonus.. It would really suck to limit multi windows to only a few apps.. The audio mods are nice.. Very loud and nice bass
A really great start to a new device.. Can't wait to see what's to come over time
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I too had keyboard concerns but got over it with the help of SwiftKey. I am a big corporate email user and couldn't imagine being productive without the keyboard. Someone in this forum said go with SwiftKey and you'll never look back. I must also add that the stock N2 isn't bad
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Thanks for all the posts.. I drove myself to the sprint store today so I could play with the phone a bit in person and I'm glad I did.
We might be important when it comes to the election drama, but Ohio won't have LTE until late next year.
Made my decision easy.. no way - no how.
We have 4G wimax here and it's plenty fast.. I'm not downgrading to 3G just to upgrade the rest of my phone. (plus they charge you for 4G LTE anyway - even though we don't offer it.. just in case you go to a area with it)
Anyway, thanks for all the replies. By the time we get 4G LTE here I'll be posting about the Note 4 I think.
Yea, if you are solidly in a Wimax area and use it all the time, unless you can't live without the features of the phone, stay with the wimax phone till LTE comes around.
Where I'm at, the only place I had Wimax was when I was outside for lunch at work. Indoors, I can hardly get a signal for a phone call(this applies to ALL the carriers, as our building really screws with the signal.
I Still think tho that with the new cash infusion/purchase by Softbank, you will see Sprint accelerate it's LTE buildout quite a bit.
Bro there's days I miss my Sidekick Lx
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I'm sort of the local android advocate where I go to school, and I've convinced a close friend to purchase the note 2 when his contract expires soon. He's coming from an iphone and I've promised him so many things that android delivers that Apple fails to do. In my personal opinion, Samsung is the way to go; they make the fastest phones with best optimization and I'd be hard pressed to purchase anything by any other manufacturer (lg, htc, motorolla, etc). Also in my opinion, the note 2 is by FAR the best phone out now (even more so than the nexus 4, go look at the massive amount of problems they're experiencing). I recommend him the note 2 because he live design and I think he'll appreciate the spen coupled with the note 2s great engineering. However, there's some things I truly need to know. I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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The only thing I see turning someone off this phone is the size. If it is too big, steer them to the DNA, GS3 or One X+ (though battery life will suffer with those compared to the GN2). All your listed potential concerns are non existent for me. This coming from a three generation Nexus user.
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I'm sort of the local android advocate where I go to school, and I've convinced a close friend to purchase the note 2 when his contract expires soon. He's coming from an iphone and I've promised him so many things that android delivers that Apple fails to do. In my personal opinion, Samsung is the way to go; they make the fastest phones with best optimization and I'd be hard pressed to purchase anything by any other manufacturer (lg, htc, motorolla, etc). Also in my opinion, the note 2 is by FAR the best phone out now (even more so than the nexus 4, go look at the massive amount of problems they're experiencing). I recommend him the note 2 because he live design and I think he'll appreciate the spen coupled with the note 2s great engineering. However, there's some things I truly need to know. I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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I've had the note 2 for a little over 2 weeks and I can answer a few of these for you.
3. The screen is amazing. My sister bought the iphone 5 and we compared screen resolution. I assume since the note is so large it doesn't need to be close to your face so it looks much better.
4. I let my battery go from 100% to 7% and got great battery life. It lasted over 24hrs. Better than any device I've owned other than my iPad. But I dont call and text on my iPad all day either.
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5. I've only used the Spen a few times but it is very handy, and I'm left handed which you can change in the settings. The model is always garbage when they have the pen just hanging there like a detached limb It's much better in 'real life'.
7. Camera is great. I used it to record video and I felt like I was being biased about how great it was, but after uploading the video to facebook people commented wanting to know what camera I was using.
I haven't used touchwiz since I've had this phone. I use Nova Launcher which is great on rhis device.
I think the Note 2 is a great choice for your friend. I was a huge iphone fan and now I wouldn't take anything for my GN2.
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I'm sort of the local android advocate where I go to school, and I've convinced a close friend to purchase the note 2 when his contract expires soon. He's coming from an iphone and I've promised him so many things that android delivers that Apple fails to do. In my personal opinion, Samsung is the way to go; they make the fastest phones with best optimization and I'd be hard pressed to purchase anything by any other manufacturer (lg, htc, motorolla, etc). Also in my opinion, the note 2 is by FAR the best phone out now (even more so than the nexus 4, go look at the massive amount of problems they're experiencing). I recommend him the note 2 because he live design and I think he'll appreciate the spen coupled with the note 2s great engineering. However, there's some things I truly need to know. I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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I waited for the Note 2 for over a year and am very happy with it.
1. TouchWiz is smooth, very smooth. No problems in that respect.
2. The apps I use all work very well and i have many. A few admittedly can seem "out of focus" on the large screen. Ver few!
3. The screen is brilliant. Reading small text is the test and it is crisp and clear, the blacks are as black as night CHOOSE A SCREEN PROTECTOR CAREFULLY!! I have a Copter screen protector on now and it ruins the display quality. Especially text. I am trying to fing en alternative now.
4. The battery is truly phenomenal.I had a couple of busy days at work and so only had time to use it intensively for about 12 hours over a two day period. The battery lasted 2 days 5 hours!!
5. The S-pen is accurate, very useful and a is designers and photo editing nerds (me) dream. That's why i skipped the sII and sIII. It is however also very useful for many other things as well. Navigating web pages and screen menus without zooming in to 400% saves lots of time.
6. Some users have mentioned build defects such as the "creaky" back cover. I came from an SI so this neither bothers me nor worries me. (My SI now works better and faster than it did when i bought it two and a half years ago.) This creakiness will bother someone coming from iphone, The plastic feel will also bother him/her. You will have explain that it is to keep the weight to a minimum.
7a. The picture quality is very good in the right conditions. As with any camera you need to know its limitations. The camera is not as fast as the camera on the iphone. In my experience the iphone camera opens and focuses quicker. Once the Note 2 has focused shats are taken as quick as on the iphone. This is the only thing that makes me jealous of iphone users.
7b. Speaker volume and quality is excellent.
You have many questions but at the end of the day, your friend will be the judge.
I will tell you this. I personally don't know anybody I've shown my Note II who was not impressed. I actually converted one of my co-workers over from an iPhone 4. He was AMAZED at what he was messing. He is absolutely in love with his device and learning more every day.
You won't be able to stop him from having a bad experience. Let him buy the phone, be there for him if he has any questions, and then watch him fall in love with the device. Watch him get giddy when he plugs in his headphones and his most used audio apps pop up. Watch him as uses apps such* as Smart Toggler, Tasker, or other Touch Wiz tweaks to automate toggling WiFi, GPS, Data, and Sound.
There is nothing an iPhone 5 can offer him that he can't find on the Note 2 except iTunes. Then again...Google Play is pretty freakin' impressive. Show him how to remotely install apps from his PC. Make him factory restore his device and then log in to see all his settings + apps restored automatically!
Basically show him the strengths of Android. The Galaxy Note 2 will MORE than speak for itself.
I can answer all of your questions in favor of the Note 2. The deal breaker may just be Android. When you are used to one OS for so long, especially one that never changes it can be hard to make the switch. Android can be overwhelming to someone who is accustomed to the simplicity of iOS. But if he's a little nerdy, or just likes to customize stuff he will dig it.
Either way, he can return it if he doesn't like it. If he gets it from Best Buy there's no re-stocking fee even, and I think you have 30 days...
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1: I experience hiccups occasionally and freezes rarely but its not like a freeze then fc....its more like a slow response
2: Haven't had any problems yet
3: I cam from a s2 skyrocket and the screen is beautiful to me.
4: the battery life REALLY is phenomenal! (just put your words in the right places)
5: For me, the spen is accurate but responsive is really subjective. There was a 1/4 to 1/2 second delay for the Spen (for me atleast and maybe its app related...I don't use the pen much)
6: I havent found any build defects but I'd imagine it will seem of less quality due to the fact the battery is removable and thus the back could have some creaks. The phone doesnt have any flex in it though....but I havent tried very hard to find flex
7: Camera and speakers are ample for me
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3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
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are you serious with this one?
there are 40 inches HDtvs with the same resolution of this 5.5 inches cellphone screen... i personally think anything higher than this on a screen this small, your eyes can't see the differences.
As for the battery, i usually do 3 days on a full charge with my Note 2, its an extreme upgrade from my old iphone 3gs (1 day only)
Unlike my iphone, none of the apps crashes.
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are you serious with this one?
there are 40 inches HDtvs with the same resolution of this 5.5 inches cellphone screen... i personally think anything higher than this on a screen this small, your eyes can't see the differences.
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Hey great 1st post & throwing you 1st thanks
The only reservation I have with the Note II, is the battery. I realize that there are so many people reporting these outrageously amazing battery times (usually without stating HOW/WHAT exactly they are doing on their phones and how they are managing to achieve these phenomenal battery lives) but I, unfortunately, am not one of those people who have experiences these unheard of battery statistics.
Grant it, standby time has been unrivaled. I've gotten almost 38 hours of battery life on my Note II. However, the most important metric—which is your screen-on time—was less than four hours... many not have even been three hours. I've seen many people reporting 24+ hours of battery with 10+ hours of screen-on time. Again, not sure how people are doing this. I have replaced my old iPod touch with the Note II. The Note I and II are the only phones I've ever had that were TRUE iPod/iPhone music player replacements. If I listen to just a bit of music, look at a few videos stored on my phone, play a few games for a little bit, and add a bit of web browsing to the equation... I can EASILY be down to about 50% battery after only 2.5-3 hours. Nowhere near what other people are reporting. Also, in many professional reviews, it's almost a toss-up with reported battery life. Half of the reviews state the ridiculously crazy amount of battery time others have reported on here, yet the other half are in my camp, stating that the battery is only as good as what you'd expect from a phone like the Note II and it isn't anything to write home about.
So that's the only thing I'd caution someone on. Either you'll be lucky and get the crazy great battery/phone or you'll end up with the red headed stepchild like I apparently have. Beyond that, I can't say anything bad about this phone.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever? no not ever with stock kernel, how ever u throw in note2kernel asylum edition and nothing ever hiccups. NOTHING
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing? this is the one problem with android, yes apps all function flawlessly. however we are not apple. they only have to make a few mods bc well they only make it for iphones ipads etc. so the support is a bit better i would say in that term. but apps on android are amazing. the open sourceness of things is fantastic.
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi? NO COMMENT. i honestly believe the iphone screen is one of the best there is. but the sheer size and quality, ( specs wise it may not be as good as iphone) but i like it so much more than the iphones.
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal? YES yes and YESSSSSSSSS. throw in undervolt and ul be all day. u can easily reach 12 hours screen time ON with HEAVVVVYYYYYY use.
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.? this all depends, after kernel updates and custom rom, there is a small small window of lag behind it but its nothing that will change or make it worse. i think it is phenomenal to be honest with you
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products- i can testify i had a defective unit. 12 days later i went to att and got a new one. my speaker jack was bad, i could not plug it in bc it popped right back out. my usb cable also came lose very very easy. new one i got is absolutely perfect.
7: camera quality/speaker loudness? camera... there i no other like it. the pictures are INSTANT and quality, well i dont need my camera anymore. speaker is loud, but they really couldve used better speakers for this beast.
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Hey great 1st post & throwing you 1st thanks
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Still wondering if this is sarcasm
BTW as an ex-iphone user, the only thing i miss is the rocker switch to switch from loud to Vibrate and vice-versa of course i think all the +values are worth this loss but i hope samsung will be able to so some kind of rocker switch like this someday (and make it configurable so we can so wathever we want with it )
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The only reservation I have with the Note II, is the battery. I realize that there are so many people reporting these outrageously amazing battery times (usually without stating HOW/WHAT exactly they are doing on their phones and how they are managing to achieve these phenomenal battery lives) but I, unfortunately, am not one of those people who have experiences these unheard of battery statistics.
Grant it, standby time has been unrivaled. I've gotten almost 38 hours of battery life on my Note II. However, the most important metric—which is your screen-on time—was less than four hours... many not have even been three hours. I've seen many people reporting 24+ hours of battery with 10+ hours of screen-on time. Again, not sure how people are doing this. I have replaced my old iPod touch with the Note II. The Note I and II are the only phones I've ever had that were TRUE iPod/iPhone music player replacements. If I listen to just a bit of music, look at a few videos stored on my phone, play a few games for a little bit, and add a bit of web browsing to the equation... I can EASILY be down to about 50% battery after only 2.5-3 hours. Nowhere near what other people are reporting. Also, in many professional reviews, it's almost a toss-up with reported battery life. Half of the reviews state the ridiculously crazy amount of battery time others have reported on here, yet the other half are in my camp, stating that the battery is only as good as what you'd expect from a phone like the Note II and it isn't anything to write home about.
So that's the only thing I'd caution someone on. Either you'll be lucky and get the crazy great battery/phone or you'll end up with the red headed stepchild like I apparently have. Beyond that, I can't say anything bad about this phone.
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your battery life is worse than normal, but not to much. 2.5 - 3 hour screen on for 50% battery is normal, if everything is on.
you can do better if you want to. but for a normal user who don't know what is wake lock, kernel, it's fine.
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All your listed potential concerns are non existent for me.
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This phone actually sucks. Freezes, terrible battery life and screen is tooooo small.
I love my Note 2. I, like most everyone in this thread have had no issues with this device at all. I don't use TouchWiz though as I prefer Nova for the customization benefits. I came from a GS2 and for me it was a huge upgrade. The most deterring thing is the screen size, for me it isn't a big deal. My fiancee (she's only 4'10") loves to use my phone and the size doesn't bother her. Granted she has to use 2 hands but it's worth it. It's a great device and will only get better. Battery life is pretty good, but I also don't get these crazy reports of 10+ hours of screen time and 1+ days till dead on top of the screen time. I average 4 hours with just about everything turned off except Mobile Data, WiFi and sync. Disabled most of the pre-installed bloatware and I do have a live background. The S-Pen is so so for me, in certain apps it's a little slow but others it's spot on with where I draw. Haven't cared to adjust the pen itself since I don't use it all that much. All in all I am very impressed and highly recommend this phone.
I think getting the crazy 1 day + battery life has a lot to do with the way you customize the phone settings.
I used to blow through the entire battery in 4 hrs as well but since learning more about different roms/kernels and other things that drain your battery I have managed to stretch it to 1 day 14 hrs with similar heavy usage
Like I said you have to get the settings just right. Also in my experience these 1 days + between charges are only attainable when im at home on weekends and have wifi on 24 hrs a day. LTE is a huge battery drain not to mention that it has not been implemented everywhere so you also lose battery when the phone toggles between LTE and whatever else is available at the time.
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I'm sort of the local android advocate where I go to school, and I've convinced a close friend to purchase the note 2 when his contract expires soon. He's coming from an iphone and I've promised him so many things that android delivers that Apple fails to do. In my personal opinion, Samsung is the way to go; they make the fastest phones with best optimization and I'd be hard pressed to purchase anything by any other manufacturer (lg, htc, motorolla, etc). Also in my opinion, the note 2 is by FAR the best phone out now (even more so than the nexus 4, go look at the massive amount of problems they're experiencing). I recommend him the note 2 because he live design and I think he'll appreciate the spen coupled with the note 2s great engineering. However, there's some things I truly need to know. I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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1) I have yet to experience anything wrong with touch wiz ui. Never had a freeze or shut down and I have quite a few apps installed as well.
2) Apps. There are (I imagine) apps that aren't as good as others. Of all the apps that I use/used I haven't had any that have even slowed the note 2 down.
3) the screen is absolutely awesome. There have been tests done that compare this to the iPhone 5 and they are dead even.
4) battery life is the best I've seen on any smartphone period. I've had lots of phones including an iPhone.
5) The spen is very accurate. Dead on. The only gripe I have about the spen is when you hover it shows up on the screen. I can hold my spen about 2-2.5"away from the screen and it pops up. I wish it had to be held just s little closer before recognizing it.
6) mine is built very solid and feels strong in my hand (s). Some units were reported to have usb issues not fitting tightly and even falling out when you plug it in. I haven't experienced that. But one would take it back for a new one should they get a unit with that issue. No squeaks, noises or moans out of this thing.
7) speaker loudness is good enough. Camera quality is superb with so many options coming on the stock unit. The are tons of other camera apps that are available to suit your fancy as well.
I haven't had anything wrong with my unit. No speed calls call clarity is fantastic. Easily heard and the pression on the other line never complains they can't hear me or otherwise.
If your friend had even a similar experience with his potential until that I've had he'd be thanking you for years to come. There are so many options and customizations you just can't get with iphones that are easily available for Android. I jumped from the Apple bandwagon to android a little over a year now and can't believe it took me that long.
One recommendation tho, when you both get your new note2's get a FlyGrip put on it. It'll allow for true one-handed operation without jeopardizing losing control of your device and dropping it. Plus it serves as a nice stand. In my opinion the FlyGrip is a must have for phones and tablets alike.
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MultiLockOn said:
I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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First off...you need to understand something...folks can have a bad experience..regardless of wither the phone is perfect for you and others or not. You need to really see what he does with his I-phone before trying to convince him to change. Many I-phone lovers have a great deal invested in them not only for the phone and apps..but other apple products,and if he is one of these types..chances are his experiences will differ greatly than someone who isn't so invested..If he is only used to using I-Phones and uses a Mac instead of a PC...has Apple TV..and I-pads..it is going to be a hard sell..
Now..if he isn't one of these types..then you still need to see what he likes and dislikes about the phone he is currently using and show him the differences in a good working model of the Note II...there are many stores that seem to have some non-functioning demo units that these units that have been screwed up by folks playing with them while on display..I've see several like this..so..just beware...You need to find out what he wants to do with his phone and what his expectations are....Now to your questions..
1) Some times..just as with any phone that is on the market..Samsung is not immune to this...nor is Apple...and for anyone here to say otherwise is biased ignorant or just a hater of Apple.
2) For the most part...yes...but that is not to say you or anyone else won't get a bad one from time to time...wither it is coming from Apple's app store or Google's...Apps for Android has to span so many different versions of phones as opposed to Apple apps...so some that work flawlessly on one persons phone may not on another's phone.This is why some say Apple is better...and Android is fragmented..I can say it's a lot better today than just a year ago..Apple is not immune to having bad apps it does and has happened..
3) Absolutely it is...and it is one of the main selling points of the phone..It is night and day compared to any of the smaller screens out there including the I-phone 5.
4) Yes & no...it can be or it can be average...or in some cases dismal...and a lot is going to depend on the individual...and a-lot is going to depend on the phone itself. I can say this..I've had much better luck with mine than some have and have better luck than with any other Android phone I have used in the past..The nice thing about it though..is this forum and the folks here that go out of their way to help those with issues...unlike the standard answer one will get on the majority of I-phone forums and that is to take it back..
5) Like I said in the beginning...you can't always measure a phone by what you see as a demo unit..Way too many little hands doing their best to bork it..but mine is very responsive.
6) You will have defects in any manufacturers phone...including Samsung or Apple. Both are for the most part exceptional phones..Some folks have to have a 100% perfect product and will scream bloody murder if it isn't...some aren't so picky..This will be up to the person your trying to convince really..and as long as he understands this..and understands if he gets a damaged one to take it back..it's a no brainer.
7) Both are excellent..both have some minor differences between makes..but both will do a great job..If a person needs a better camera...they should get a dedicated camera IMHO...and as too the loudness and quality of the speakers..my Note II is louder than any unaided I-phone out there..This was something I disliked about my other Android phones...but on this one..it is one of the things like the screen size that blows away the competition entirely.
So...I have to ask..is you friend happy with his I-phone now ? Are you just trying to get them to switch because of your preference ? If yes to both..your possibly setting yourself up for a very unhappy situation..If they are really wanting to switch..they will..Many folks are deeply disturbed by Apple's relentless lawsuits..and lack of recent innovations...Many more are seeing all of the negative TV adds and are questioning themselves as well..Just know this before you say much more to them..if they are the type of individual that wants to set it and then forget it..they may be much better off with a Apple I-phone than a Android one..While most Android phones can be used like that as well in reality...the simple fact is the majority of I-phone users expect theirs to work perfectly out of the box...and many past Android phones which are the bulk of the phones on the market haven't been that way. While you may be here and can see what can and can't be done to them...you have to ask them if they are willing to actually learn how to do this..Many many people aren't willing to mess with their phones by either jail breaking them...or rooting them and installing custom features..so they are a set it and forget it type of individual...
Phone for phone comparing the Note II against a 4s I-phone..is a no brainer really..it offers so much more that that one..Comparing it to a I-phone 5..will depend entirely on the individuals taste/wants/needs..and also what their carrier offers as far as connectivity for LTE as well as how deeply they are invested in Apple products..and their family& friends as well. From a purely personal perspective..I prefer my note to either the 4s or 5 I-phones because of what I do with it..and that is something your friend is going to have to decide for themselves...
This is about as unbiased as I can be...hope it helps..
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Still wondering if this is sarcasm
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No sarcasm involved.
I was throwing you props for making valid point that has not been made on res....well at least in this forum & for that I gave you thanks on your 1st xda post.
So guys I'm in a dilemma here I have both phones right now sealed in the box I don't know which one to keep and which one to sell. I'm in Canada so lte works on the nexus 4. What do you guys suggest ? Thanks
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One for work one for play ;p
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I was in the same dilemma as well. If you don't mind the size, the Note 2 is the better choice. The Nexus 4 may get the faster updates but we're on xda anyway so pretty much any phone with a good community will get updates.
Personally, if I had a choice between those 2 phones, I would prefer the Note 2. I'm a bit biased because I've been with Samsung for so long and I don't trust any other brand other than them. LOL. But from an unbiased point, the Nexus 4 provides faster updates (as mentioned), the Krait processor, and it's Google. Note 2 has a bunch of useful features and now we have some very reputable and brilliant developers in our community which will jump start our development. There's even an Android 4.2 (WIP) coming for us!
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So guys I'm in a dilemma here I have both phones right now sealed in the box I don't know which one to keep and which one to sell. I'm in Canada so lte works on the nexus 4. What do you guys suggest ? Thanks
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Note 2 hands down...more features and great dev support.
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I've used both and ended up sticking with the note 2 there's nothing out there right now that can compare to its specs not even goggles own baby
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Did you ask this same question in the Nexus 4 section? lol...It's gonna be hard to get an unbiased opinion when you ask a question like that in a section specifically for one of the phones
Having said that, I had the LG Optimus G, and aside from the LG skin (which wasn't TOO horrible) it was a good phone, but I still promptly exchanged it for a Note 2 and don't regret it one bit. I have never had good experiences with LG phones. The display was beautiful though.
I have a note 2 and my buddy has a nexus 4. I thought the nexus 4 screen looks way better then note 2 screen hands down in my opinion. The build quality and feel of nexus 4 is also much better. However no removable battery no lte, and no sd card support are major deal breakers. 16gb is just not enough with games and apps installed. At least if they made a 32gb version.
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The nexus 4 has some attractive points. LTE maybe less of an issue if you in Canada. The screen is nice and it's a fast performer.
But for me the lack of MicroSD and non-removable is a no go for me. Not only is battery life on the Note 2 awesome, but I have a spare battery i can use if every needed. I also really like having the s pen and the 5.5" screen i greatly enjoy. The size of the note is not for everyone, I'm OK with it.
You have to decide how important each of these factors are to you. Once you do that I'm sure you'll be happy with your choice.
If note 2 was made by LG and nexus 4 by Samsung, I'd say go for nexus 4...
Personally I'm staying away from anything LG, I had enough gray hair with LG Nitro HD, thank you very much.
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If note 2 was made by LG and nexus 4 by Samsung, I'd say go for nexus 4...
Personally I'm staying away from anything LG, I had enough gray hair with LG Nitro HD, thank you very much.
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You're lucky you never tried the Thrill then...
I need more time before trying LG again. The guy at the AT&T store tried to get me to buy the Optimus G when the Note was not in stock yet. The nexus might be okay if LG isn't responsible for the software.
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When you ask such question in Note 2 forum, my feeling is that you are going to get some bias answer.
I have both phones, and I think both phone are top notch in their own way. Here's what I think:
Nexus 4
- Very solid build, the construction is as solid as iPhone. Feels great in hand.
- The display does produce some relatively accurate colour compare to my IPS displays. I do a lot of photo editing/viewing. On the other hand, the sAMOLED does throw the colour off a bit by over saturated (nature of AMOLED), with the "natural" profile on Note2, it does become closer to real colour. Pixel density on the N4 is also better, but it's not critical as the Note 2 display is pretty sharp with the sAMOLED HD.
- AOSP, AOSP, AOSP! If you aren't a fan of Touchwiz, this is what you should keep. Not just the updates, as they don't come everyday. It's the user experience. Samsung does add a lot of neat feature that many can't live without, but in my honest opinion, AOSP does provide a nice layout and great feature out the box. I am also not a huge fan of Samsung's oversized UI, either.
- Believe it or not, the on screen button is a very important "feature" of N4 - You now have a place to put your thumb when you hold the phone, especially when passing the phone to people to show them stuff...without accidentally touching any of the buttons. However, also because of the on screen button, you do lose some screen estate.
- Buttery smooth, yes, smoother than the "more powerful" Note 2
- The price - You are indeed getting a lot of phone for the price that you are paying.
- Battery is medicore, partially due to bugs of 4.2 I believe. Dead locks are draining the battery.
- Lack of SD card might be a deal breaker for you. It isn't for me.
- Camera sucks.
Note 2
- Huge display, this is probably the max that you can carry with the borderline portability. The display is beneficial for reading stuff, browsing, sharing contents with friends
- The battery is ridiculous. The size, with the power management of the software makes it unreal. I get average 2 hours of light/moderate usage per 10%, on LTE.
- Touchwiz - To use the full features of the Note2, you probably don't want AOSP. The S-Pen works well with touchwiz, and I find touchwiz works well with large displays due to the oversized UI elements
- Size - It's pocketable, but it's not extremely comfortable. Taking in and out, using it in public, talking on it looks very awkward. No matter how big your hands are, how big of a person you are, this IS larger than your average phone by a lot
- One hand usability - Samsung does have some one hand accessibility but in general, reaching for places around the screen is a struggle with one hand
- Great sound - Speaker, and headphone jack.
- Strong vibrator
- S Pen - Unless you have a use for it, it's a gimmick. It's fun to fool around with it, but the hype tends to die off quickly
- FAST charging. Nexus 4 is fast, but Note 2 is even faster consider it's massive battery. This is a very important feature to me.
- Impressive camera, but not that it's any/much better than that of SGS3
- Oh, if you don't have a 7" tablet yet, this should fill that gap a bit.
As it stands, Note 2 has some very attractive points to me, such as the large display for reading and the insane battery life that makes me not to worry about being close to a charger. However, I don't feel comfortable using it on a daily basis due to the size. WIth that said, I am using a Note 2 now as I gave my Nexus 4 (8GB) to my other half. I have a 16GB coming in a month, and I will re-evaluate it again by then.
These two phones are pretty much Android in it's best form in today's market, and they are not substitutable for each other due to the different nature of them. The phone war has evolved to beyond to the specs-war just like computing world. The "better specs" of Note 2 doesn't necessary determine whether the phone is better or not, and with that said, Nexus 4 specs is pretty impressive too. You need to pick your own base on your need
Hope it helps a bit with your decision! Any more specific questions you have that can help with your decision, just ask. It's a tough one to make.
Awesome thanks for the input its a huge decision I think of will end up keeping the note
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The Nexus 4 ultimately had too many drawbacks for me to consider it. The thermal throttling issues with the S4Pro processor, the non-swapable battery with less than stellar battery life, the limited storage without microSD expansion, the glass back prone to cracking, and no LTE. And now we find out that the Nexus 4 cannot support USB-OTG, so all those who bought one thinking they could move files over to an external drive are SOL. No USB keyboards/mice/Dualshock etc. Not a big deal if you have bluetooth peripherals, but I want to have as many options as possible. The Note II is a superhero in that regard...
I have the Note 2 and personally love it, but if you don't need the size, then nexus 4 is a much better option. I love the vanilla 4.2 JB and the screen is much crispier, any build quality is top notch [I have both phones]
If note 2 had a 1080 display then, I would so Note 2 hands down.
Get a quality BT headphone and you won't have to worry about how you look to other people...personally I really could give a rats behind how others think...but hey that's just me...
Nexus vs Note II...to me it all comes down to do you want the biggest best phone or a smaller phone that doesn't offer as much.
S-pen is there if you need it...and it's always better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
ASOP...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046616..it has a few minor glitches...but if this is your thing...then enjoy it.
Smoothness...drop this one in...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028661 add Nova launcher and tweak it...and your golden...
Memory card...your going to want one...just to fill up with all of the videos you'll be watching and music you'll be rocking to...
My advice...prop them both up side by side and watch any video on it...browse the internet..then ask yourself...which offers you what you want/need to enjoy it with
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Mac11700 said:
Get a quality BT headphone and you won't have to worry about how you look to other people...personally I really could give a rats behind how others think...but hey that's just me...
Nexus vs Note II...to me it all comes down to do you want the biggest best phone or a smaller phone that doesn't offer as much.
S-pen is there if you need it...and it's always better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
ASOP...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046616..it has a few minor glitches...but if this is your thing...then enjoy it.
Smoothness...drop this one in...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028661 add Nova launcher and tweak it...and your golden...
Memory card...your going to want one...just to fill up with all of the videos you'll be watching and music you'll be rocking to...
My advice...prop them both up side by side and watch any video on it...browse the internet..then ask yourself...which offers you what you want/need to enjoy it with
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Mac,
No offense but I think your post is pretty bias.
- Yes, you can always bring a BT headset, but shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly? Also, how about the people that don't like bluetooth headset in general?
- S-Pen, yes, it's better to have but at what cost? Size of the phone?
- Touchwiz isn't without it's own glitches, whether AOSP or not is a pure preferences whether it has bugs or not. I actually find touchwiz works well with GN2, AOSP won't.
- Smoothness, sorry, Note 2 just isn't as smooth as a N4 no matter what launcher you put in. It could be due to settings, but out the box even with Nova, it's not there.
- Memory Card - why must he get one?
I do agree with Note 2 having better specs, but the cost is the size. If you can live with the size and Touchwiz, there isn't a reason not to get Note2....but only if you can live with the size.
Cheers.
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shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly?
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Caring about what other people think of you holding a phone to your face reeks of insecurity to me. "Looking Silly" is the last thing that would sway me from buying an excellent device.
Remember how small phones used to be ten years ago? It wasn't that long ago when people also thought 3.5" smartphones were huge.
cy88 said:
Mac,
No offense but I think your post is pretty bias.
- Yes, you can always bring a BT headset, but shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly? Also, how about the people that don't like bluetooth headset in general?
- S-Pen, yes, it's better to have but at what cost? Size of the phone?
- Touchwiz isn't without it's own glitches, whether AOSP or not is a pure preferences whether it has bugs or not. I actually find touchwiz works well with GN2, AOSP won't.
- Smoothness, sorry, Note 2 just isn't as smooth as a N4 no matter what launcher you put in. It could be due to settings, but out the box even with Nova, it's not there.
- Memory Card - why must he get one?
I do agree with Note 2 having better specs, but the cost is the size. If you can live with the size and Touchwiz, there isn't a reason not to get Note2....but only if you can live with the size.
Cheers.
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Cy8888, that's funny you said Mac's post was biased because that's exactly what I thought when I read your long post above.
Remember, the OP asked what people thought and the reply's have been, for the most part, just that. Almost every statement you made in your lengthy post was "your opinion", certainly not facts. For example, I use the S-Pen daily and love it's added benefit and it, in my opinion, is not a gimmick as you stated.
So, no need to call out another forum members post when he is doing the same as you...giving his opinion as requested by the OP.:angel:
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Cy8888, that's funny you said Mac's post was biased because that's exactly what I thought when I read your long post above.
Remember, the OP asked what people thought and the reply's have been, for the most part, just that. Almost every statement you made in your lengthy post was "your opinion", certainly not facts. For example, I use the S-Pen daily and love it's added benefit and it, in my opinion, is not a gimmick as you stated.
So, no need to call out another forum members post when he is doing the same as you...giving his opinion as requested by the OP.:angel:
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I was bias because I love/have the Note 2 so much but the size, right?
What I said: "S Pen -Unless you have a use for it, it's a gimmick." - You do, so it's not a gimmick for you for sure. I know a few people that do have a use for it and I am impressed with how they make use of it for work purposes.
Which other point of my post is pure bias? I simply listed out the things I from with using both devices, I never said one is better for another for everyone. However Mac did say that "you are GOING to want one", "BUGS with 4.2", etc etc to just praise the Note 2. OP is trying to make a decision, and words like that aren't going to make his choice easier is it?
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Caring about what other people think of you holding a phone to your face reeks of insecurity to me. "Looking Silly" is the last thing that would sway me from buying an excellent device.
Remember how small phones used to be ten years ago? It wasn't that long ago when people also thought 3.5" smartphones were huge.
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I might have worded it wrong, but the fact that it's bigger than normal does draw attention. Yes, you can choose not to care about anyone thinks at all, but there are some actually "dont" want to draw that type of attention with a device. It is a fact that Note 2 is humongous, and that's ALSO it's selling point. Unless you have a need and can live with the size, otherwise you might want to look at other alternatives like SGS3 (which i have one sitting here also if you want comparison) that offers something in the middle.
I apologize if I've rubbed anyone the wrong way, wasn't the intention.
Cheers!
thinking of buying this phone and trying to decide if i buy it for Tmobile or Verizon (no more sprint for me) one thing i need though is to be able to talk and surf the net at the same time...
Anyone regret buying this phone.....
What do you love the most of this phone?
What do you hate the most of this phone?
many people complain about the size of the phone which does seem huge but i can comfortably use it with one hand so thats not an issue for me i actually type better no typos not like on the sgs2...also i dont wear skinny jeans so it fits in my pockets without a problem
Hows the reception on this ? sgs2 and sgs3 reception really suck
If I were in the market for a phone right this moment I would most likely buy the Galaxy Note 2 again. I have absolutely no regrets whatsoever over getting this phone. I hate the bloatware that comes preinstalled on it that cannot be removed without root access and the somewhat limited flexibility of the Multi Window feature among other things. However, these are minor things that in no way tarnish the appeal of the Galaxy Note II to me. As for what I love about this phone, on the other hand, I could be here all night though I'll keep it brief: Multi Window, S Pen functionality, the sheer size of the screen (although 5.5" doesn't seem so massive anymore compared to the competition's 2013 flagships) and the larger capacity battery which easily gets me through 1 - 1.5 days of heavy-ish use.
I hope I've answered your questions and good luck!
Galaxy 3 bad reception?? U must have had a bad one in the at&t forum and me personally have never had bad reception with it. I don't think I've ever lost more than 1 bar or dropped a call
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jaekidd1012 said:
If I were in the market for a phone right this moment I would most likely buy the Galaxy Note 2 again. I have absolutely no regrets whatsoever over getting this phone. I hate the bloatware that comes preinstalled on it that cannot be removed without root access and the somewhat limited flexibility of the Multi Window feature among other things. However, these are minor things that in no way tarnish the appeal of the Galaxy Note II to me. As for what I love about this phone, on the other hand, I could be here all night though I'll keep it brief: Multi Window, S Pen functionality, the sheer size of the screen (although 5.5" doesn't seem so massive anymore compared to the competition's 2013 flagships) and the larger capacity battery which easily gets me through 1 - 1.5 days of heavy-ish use.
I hope I've answered your questions and good luck!
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My thoughts mirrors what he says. :thumbup:
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Best phone I've ever bought hands down..
I would buy the Note 2 again in a heartbeat. it does everything i want it to do and does it all day long.
I just got this phone in Feb. And I love this beast. I would buy a second one for the wife. We'll wait for the S4 for her. No regrets on this phone. I haven't rooted it and might not need to because I can disable the bloat.
thanks to everyone who has replied back .. best way to get real feedback is to ask the real heavy users ... video reviews are good but only to a point which is why i thought i asked on here
When I bought it I watched this video on YouTube. It made me realize this phone is a monster to a point that I will never buy any other phone again. Only newer Notes that come out when it's time to upgrade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nh2NSLgaII&feature=youtube_gdata_player
No regrets whatsoever, and I haven't even scratched the surface of what this phone can do. Even without all the fanciness of hooking it up to the smart dock etc, just having the multi-window, the pen, the battery life, and that large screen is such a plus.
I would definitely buy this phone again. I paid $690 on release day and feel like I already got my money's worth..I commute 3 hrs a day, too and from work, so my phone gets heavy usage.
This is the Best phone I ever had and the Development is already hard to keep up with!
Love the phone and I love it even more that is rooted with the amazing battery .
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no regrets at all!!! have had an amazing time thus far with this phone, it takes care of everything that i throw at it, and covers all my uses while on the go, in a sleek design. its powerful for whatever you want to use it for. if i had to buy it all over again, hands down i would not go for any other phone at the moment. screen size is amazing, multi-tasking (w/ multi-window), S Pen, battery life are all amazing! i honestly have no complaints whatsoever with this phone! as with all carrier spcific phones, bloatware will always be present, but for that you can always root and clean up. besides that I LOVE MY GN2!!!!
Idk how to get amazing battery life on this phone without rooting, I get on average max of 7 hours heavy use, 12 moderate use, and 18 light use.
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thanks to everyone who has replied back .. best way to get real feedback is to ask the real heavy users ... video reviews are good but only to a point which is why i thought i asked on here
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Another way to look at it is through the resale market. You wouldn't see too many Note II available. Most Note II users simply couldn't find a better replacement.
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Not sure if its just me or.... I just love how the note 2 vibrates... the vibration sound is so different.
Best phone so far i've owned. Just a little big for my small hands :silly:
I love this phone. Dont regret getting it at all.
Sure good phone .. But the gs4 and note3 will be out so if u don't mind waiting
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Amazing phone!
My only regret is: its taking time away from my wife and work.. lol..
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