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HTC Mondarian on the AT&T network
Perhaps a 1.3 ghz CPU?
Snapdragon QSD8650A processor
4.3" screen
I believe an aluminum casing?
If all that is true, then T-mobile can have their HD7. I'd be much happy with this.

More pictures!
Nothing breathtaking but maybe the best looking WP7 device by HTC so far.
Lets hope the rumors of a 1.3GHz Snapdragon processor and a 1400mAh battery is true.
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-mondrian-renders-for-the-press-surface-1#comments

nizzon said:
Lets hope the rumors of a 1.3GHz Snapdragon processor and a 1400mAh battery is true.
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It's funny how people build up unrealistic expectations and then get disappointed.
As Nietzsche once said, hope dies last, I would kill it first.

Thats unrealistic?
Looks like the Samsung Cetus has a 1500mAh battery.
But hey... lets hope it has the same specs as all the others, so we won't get disappointed.
Oh wait!... I have a better idea, lets don't care at all.
I wish I could quote some fancy philosopher here... or do I?

Samsung Cetus i8700 is prob the best looking so far and with really good specs. I just hope a 16GB flavour is offered for that model.

nizzon said:
But hey... lets hope it has the same specs as all the others, so we won't get disappointed.
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What's the point in hoping when you know already that it'll have the same specs. Don't know about the battery though.

vangrieg said:
What's the point in hoping when you know already that it'll have the same specs. Don't know about the battery though.
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hoping? there are multiple reports out claiming that it will be 1.3, no one is blindly speculating.some people see the cup half full, but I guess you see it as wheats the point of looking?

Whatever. Microsoft said all devices will use the same chip. You can fantasize about those "multiple reports" as much as you like. There have been multiple "leaks" reposting Photoshop renders made by xda members just for fun, with big blogs copypasting things without thinking. Most of these "reports" had the same source.

Of course many of the blogs out there are wrong and start chirping what the one before them said. But no one is blindly predicting or "hoping" something out of reach like a phone with a 3.0 ghz quad core with 1 gb graphics either. Regardless of what microsoft said it is very possible that there will be a phone with more than 1 ghz, possibly even a 1.3 ghz, within the next year.

Next year, sure. Just not at launch. If this Mondrian is launched this "holiday season" it's getting the same chip as others. Easy as that.

If only it had a qwerty keyboard =(

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Bezzletine said:
If only it had a qwerty keyboard =(
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Relax, there will be phones with qwertys.

Nokia 900 could be the Holy Grail

If the rumours are true that is.
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/nokia-900-windows-phone-handset-tipped-in-leak

Interestingly enough there is no mention of FFC and I can't see one in the pic. Hope that's not the case, provided that thing is real to begin with.

Could be a fake but if this is real I won't care about FFC, it's not like I would actually use it.

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If the rumours are true that is.
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/nokia-900-windows-phone-handset-tipped-in-leak
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I agree. Now that looks like a Nokia WP7 I could love.

I heard it's a fake.
That's pretty bad since I am still waiting for a 32Gb device.

the specs looks good but i am digging the nokia 800/sea ray design more

I think it's fake:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/25/nokia-lumia-800-and-710-windows-phones-slip-out-ahead-of-tomorro/
Why would the other 2 be called "Lumia 800" and "Lumia 710" and this just be called "900" (and not "Lumia 900")

brummiesteven said:
I think it's fake:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/25/nokia-lumia-800-and-710-windows-phones-slip-out-ahead-of-tomorro/
Why would the other 2 be called "Lumia 800" and "Lumia 710" and this just be called "900" (and not "Lumia 900")
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It does look exactly like an Omnia 7. http://cdn.cbsi.com.au/story_media/339306547/samsung_1.jpg

I think it looks awesome, would love to have a 4 to 4.3 in WP7 Mango Phone, but feel this is fake because it lists 512MB ROM, I haven't seen ROM listings on any WP7 devices because of the built in memory. I just hope the Lumia 800 comes to Sprint, would love a device with bigger screen and no keyboard.

It's fake.
yankodesign.com/2010/12/24/multiple-oss-on-a-smartphone
However, I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Lumia 900 will be revealed tomorrow, and it will have a microSD slot.
Why?
Take a look at the Lumia 800 spec sheet. It says "no uSD" (the u is a micro), which sucks. Now why would they advertise a lack of a feature, unless it was to compare it with a phone that has the feature?

lovenokia said:
the specs looks good but i am digging the nokia 800/sea ray design more
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Yeah, me too, and the screen size is perfect for me. The looming threat of PenTile and 16GB only announcements likely to come out tomorrow spoil the party though...

Best title ever for a thread, Peew.
If these specs turn out to be true, then I know what device I'll purchase next. I'd prefer the Lumia 720 design wise though. But the 4.3" SAMOLED screen plus 32 GB storage mean more to me than the look of the device (which isn't too shabby to be honest).

uryu_ishida said:
It's fake.
yankodesign.com/2010/12/24/multiple-oss-on-a-smartphone
However, I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Lumia 900 will be revealed tomorrow, and it will have a microSD slot.
Why?
Take a look at the Lumia 800 spec sheet. It says "no uSD" (the u is a micro), which sucks. Now why would they advertise a lack of a feature, unless it was to compare it with a phone that has the feature?
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I noticed that and thought it was odd and that would make sense i do think there will be a top end devise as well. I just cant wait to see the searay though and hope that now nokia world is kicking off i will be able to get my order in

The consensus seems to be a fake...unfortunately

It's a concept designed by MindSailors. Check out the link below and go to the Design Showcase -> Electronic's section to see the high res pictures of that concept. You'll notice that the only difference between this and the leaked picture is the tile's background colour has been changed and they've added in the Nokia Nav tile.
http://www.mindsailors.com/

If Nokia releases something with the body of the Sea Ray aka 800 with a 4"+ screen, front facing camera & 32GB+ of storage, I will not be able to buy it fast enough.
Please don't disappoint me tomorrow! 3.7" and no FFC is no good as much as I love that body style.

dtboos said:
If Nokia releases something with the body of the Sea Ray aka 800 with a 4"+ screen, front facing camera & 32GB+ of storage, I will not be able to buy it fast enough.
Please don't disappoint me tomorrow! 3.7" and no FFC is no good as much as I love that body style.
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I'm in on that action too. In fact, you'd better wear your bestest and fastest tennis shoes because I intend to outrun you.
By the way, you ever see an old man hobble like a jack rabbit? Let Nokia put that love out and you will.

Peew971 said:
If the rumours are true that is.
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/nokia-900-windows-phone-handset-tipped-in-leak
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Is this supposed to be the "Ace"? If so isn't that device going to have LTE which isn't going to be supported until Tango early next year?
I have my eye on the Ace if it does indeed have the 4.3" amoled display with LTE and FFC, 1.4 Ghz CPU, etc...

mikroland said:
Is this supposed to be the "Ace"? If so isn't that device going to have LTE which isn't going to be supported until Tango early next year?
I have my eye on the Ace if it does indeed have the 4.3" amoled display with LTE and FFC, 1.4 Ghz CPU, etc...
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It's fake.

dtboos said:
If Nokia releases something with the body of the Sea Ray aka 800 with a 4"+ screen, front facing camera & 32GB+ of storage, I will not be able to buy it fast enough.
Please don't disappoint me tomorrow! 3.7" and no FFC is no good as much as I love that body style.
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If it has those specs and sea ray shape, I am willing to take the heat from my wife, This would be my 3rd new phone in 12 months.

Thinking about a Nitro?...Compare to other 720p phones!

A prevalent question on these Nitro forums is whether or not to buy it...As compared to <whatever> phone. I think the most common comparison is with the Samsung Galaxy S2.
The problem is, the GS2 is an 800x480 resolution phone. To get an idea of why that doesn't make sense, go ahead and set your laptop's screen resolution to 800x600. How's that look to you? Now walk over to your computer and set it to 1280x800, how's that?
Not exactly a controlled and scientific comparison right? Different systems, different screens, different just about everything.
IMHO, if you're considering the Nitro and want to compare it to something?...Then there's really only 1 other phone (in the US, anyway); the HTC Rezound which has the exact same CPU/GPU chipset and 1280x720 screen (LCD though, not IPS). You could also compare with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, there's a LOT of variances there too but it's one of the only phones that also has the 1280x720 screen.
I stress the commonality of 1280x720 because not everything works properly (or even at all) when trying to display at this resolution and also there's potential draw delays to compensate. So make sure you're looking at the other phones that could share this same hurdle so you set your expectations accordingly.

good points, thanks!

To add two more 720P phones were announced at ces coming to AT&T. The Sony Xperia Ion and the Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket HD.

@Namura: Appreciate the "cold water" treatment. might make others think twice both for flaming the P930 and the comparison to other units.
@Kindawack: prototypes/announced phones don't figure into what he is talking about, as they are not market launched yet.

Knock it off all stay on topic and stop arguing, doesn't belong on xda!!!

Only 2 720p phone on market at this time.

MoreYummy said:
Only 2 720p phone on market at this time.
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I think it's like 4.
-Galaxy Nexus
-LG Nitro HD (duh)
-HTC Rezound
-Samsung GS2 HD (my dream phone)

I meant the ones are actually on the market for sale.

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I meant the ones are actually on the market for sale.
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GS2 HD IS on the market. Just not the US market. But if you want to talk about internationally, i think Sharp/Toshiba has got 720p phones too

Can't say how this site is accurate, but I like how you can set the parameters for search and how it shows the table:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...&id4=3215&id5=3233&id6=3109&id7=3271&id8=3064

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Can't say how this site is accurate, but I like how you can set the parameters for search and how it shows the table:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...&id4=3215&id5=3233&id6=3109&id7=3271&id8=3064
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Yeah, I wonder about the validity of their info as well. Considering the Samsung Note LTE for AT&T was only announced yesterday at CES...With the only confirms being 1.5GHz Qualcomm chipset (but no verification as to which model) and availability as "in the coming months"...Whereas that pdadb shows it as releasing in Feb and has the same APQ8060 chip as our Nitro.

man, i am way past waiting for the next kick ass phone to be released. I had been waiting since the droid bionic announcement (the 1st one ;-0) prior to getting this nitro.
not playing the *let's give it another month and see what's released* game no mo!
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Yup, I agree. I spent 5 months waiting for nothing..... as each day passes I'm more and more pleased with the Nitro.
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I am constantly hoping for a CWM breakthrough for our phone but then I remember that I am actually 100% satisfied with my rooted, debloated, blue icon and battery mod, go launcher ex Nitro, then I don't worry about CWM as much.

Same here. As long I am rooted, debloated, custom launcher (zean) and sim unlocked I am good. Custom roms would nice but a lot of time, they are a pain to keep up.
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I know benchmarks dont mean squat, but I am surprised how Nitro HD fairs well in any 3D benchmarks especially with 720p screen and sub-optimised soft. See attached Antutu benchmark. Barely behind Galaxy Nexus with ICS.
I just fired up Shadowgun and it does drop a frame here and there. No Tegra afterall but 4.5 inch 720p is looking better than I remember playing on Atrix 4G.

LMAO
IPS is just one type of LCD,
IPS, MVA, PVA, ASV are all good screen types,
the only bad screen is TN, which is never used on high end android devices.
AMOLED sucks IMO, over saturated, and your vision killer. Dont even mention most of the AMOLED on the market is pentile display.

theoski said:
I know benchmarks dont mean squat, but I am surprised how Nitro HD fairs well in any 3D benchmarks especially with 720p screen and sub-optimised soft. See attached Antutu benchmark. Barely behind Galaxy Nexus with ICS
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look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20564401&postcount=30 'tis even way ahead of nexus being reset and debloated

Billy Madison said:
look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20564401&postcount=30 'tis even way ahead of nexus being reset and debloated
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scores well eh. got a bit better score just now

The score is about same when you compare the top 3.
Not much differences.

HOX, 2 different screens?!

I have 2 HOX's one bought last month and one i won yesterday, I was comparing them there after i recieved the new one, and they appear to have different screens.
Well i don't actually know if they are different, i have no way of telling other than comparing them side by side and the one i got yesterday seems to be much better and my older one the whites are abit greyer, like the differences with the sensation when that came out.
Not sure if you can tell the difference between the 2, i used a sensation to take the picture.
The one on the left is the newer hox with the better screen.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26408110&postcount=3799

Sharp, Acer and Sony

My HOX screen looks like the one on the right and it's made in Taiwan (HT24.. serial number). It probably depends on where the phone was built.
Off topic, just curious but did you win this from the Androidandme.com contest?

My grey one is HT23YW and the white one is HT242W.
No i didn't win it from androidandme.
Thanks for that hamdir.

xmoo said:
Sharp, Acer and Sony
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How we find out which one we use ?

For the sensation i used terminal emulator to find the screen manufacturer, but i can't seem to find it out on the HOX.

Any fastboot or adb commands?

I found out that my screen is the color on the right when comparing with my friend yesterday. It pisses me off tbh. When comparing,the color on my phone doesnt look white it looks yellowish. Annoying. Anything one can do about this?

My HT23Y looks like the right one
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ShyamSasi said:
How we find out which one we use ?
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There are several threads about this... also how you can find out which one you have.

So basically leaving users who paid the same amoint of money with a less nicer screen is intended and in no way an error or so?

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Do we actually know they use these panel-manufacturers? It's never been confirmed, as far as I know. And I've never seen a Sharp IPS, I think. So my guess it's something like Sony, Samsung (as the first article with microscope image on the one x display said it was, and at the same time confirmed IPS) and probably LG. But it's just speculation, but since I've never seen a sharp ips, I don't think they have updated they're factorys just for this. But if someone knows for sure these are the displays (and not because of past relations, we all know they used them in sensation) then I'm sorry.

kruppin said:
Do we actually know they use these panel-manufacturers? It's never been confirmed, as far as I know. And I've never seen a Sharp IPS, I think. So my guess it's something like Sony, Samsung (as the first article with microscope image on the one x display said it was, and at the same time confirmed IPS) and probably LG. But it's just speculation, but since I've never seen a sharp ips, I don't think they have updated they're factorys just for this. But if someone knows for sure these are the displays (and not because of past relations, we all know they used them in sensation) then I'm sorry.
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I'm pretty sure sharp manufacture the ipad 3's and the iphone 4's screen so they would be perfectly capable of doing the one x's

kruppin said:
Do we actually know they use these panel-manufacturers? It's never been confirmed, as far as I know. And I've never seen a Sharp IPS, I think. So my guess it's something like Sony, Samsung (as the first article with microscope image on the one x display said it was, and at the same time confirmed IPS) and probably LG. But it's just speculation, but since I've never seen a sharp ips, I don't think they have updated they're factorys just for this. But if someone knows for sure these are the displays (and not because of past relations, we all know they used them in sensation) then I'm sorry.
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It is, from the three manufacturers.... http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1501514/

I really feel bad with HTC because they sell 2 type of screen (1 better and 1 worse) with the same price. My friend bought it for me from France so i can not replace it. Damn. I'm really unhappy with yellower screen

I just have a question, would this display be replaceable if i were to go to the shop that sold it to me?

shadehh said:
I just have a question, would this display be replaceable if i were to go to the shop that sold it to me?
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i think you can request for exchange a new one, they can not just replace the screen only

I have had a replacement phone from provider and I have the yellow tinted screen hate it. So I will get another. I can't get past it. Juts irritates me

Simpody said:
I have had a replacement phone from provider and I have the yellow tinted screen hate it. So I will get another. I can't get past it. Juts irritates me
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just before you exchange try to see another with the white screen and compare it to your screen, look close and you will notice your screen is considerably sharper

HTC one x+ leaked

The HTC one x+ has been leaked supporting 64 GB internal and it looks like its got a new material around the camera ring which should make it more scratch resistance and it runs on jelly bean. If you look at the three keys on the O2 brochure the keys instead of a blue colour they are red. It's also been claimed that it will have 1.7 GHz processor this could be the tegra 3 which can be clocked to 1.7 GHz with all cores running and DDR3 which is better then the tegra 3 all the other phones are using including the current HTC one x international version, or it could be the same processor which runs at 1.7. GHz single core mode or it could be s4 pro which can run at 1.7 GHz. Most likely it will use s4 pro or the new tegra 3 model with a built in 4g modem.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_makes_an_appearance_in_an_o2_uk_brochure_-news-4868.php
Their are no leaks on battery size or anything else the pricing is at £480.00 without contract on O2. The reason why they are releasing this model is because they need to release a phone with 4G which they already have but that isn't international and it has 16GB which isn't enough. the reasons why they are releasing this is because:
-they need to increase their internal memory because that was a major deal breaker for many people although I am okay with 32gb.
-they need a 4g version to compete with iPhone 5. HTC already have a 4g but with only 16gb which is less.
-they needed to redesign the camera lens so its not easily scratched.
-they need to put a better CPU as the current tegra 3 and s4 are not as good as A6 and s4 pro. Although it would be better I'd they where to go with s4 pro since that's the best CPU with excellent power efficient.
-if they do not place a s4 pro then hopefully they'll increase battery since although I doubt that.
-they need to have 1.5gb-2gb ram atleast so theirs no more slowness or sense crashes.
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Many people are saying it's to soon for them to releases a flagship but with the likes of Nokia 920, iPhone 5 and others they need to release it. Its actually been 6 months since the HTC one x has been released so I don't know why people are comparing this to the sensation and xe that was released like two months after the sensation I think.
I personally think it's good that they are releasing this I hopefully will be getting it. Remember its called the one x+ it's just a improved version which will be much better on the software side of things. Atleast they didn't do what apple did release 4s after a year with only a few few improvements and no design improvements. I thinks its good of HTC to address the HTC one x's problems after six months.
Many people are complaining on other tech sites that it doesn't have removable sd or a 12 megapixel camera but theirs no need for that. Someone said that if the HTC one x+ has 64gb build in with no sd they won't buy it, first of all 64 gb is more then enough and why do people beg for a sd slot the only advantage I can see is when you have more then one android you want to swap data.
One thing that I have noticed about you tech lovers your so greedy you ask for one thing then you get it and then you want another thing. Your always complaining like you lot have any experience in running an electronic company like HTC. HTC must have done something right to get this far. Many people also compare a current model to a leaked which is obviously gonna be better.
What would you like to see in the new improved model, why and do you think HTC going back to the red keys like the xe was a good idea and will you be buying it even when it has 64gb at the same retail price as a s3 16gb?
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aliHTCDHD said:
One thing that I have noticed about you tech lovers your so greedy you ask for one thing then you get it and then you want another thing. Your always complaining like you lot have any experience in running an electronic company like HTC. HTC must have done something right to get this far. Many people also compare a current model to a leaked which is obviously gonna be better.
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Dunno why, but you sound like one hell of annoying guy. Talking about us being greedy yet you are setting such high demands for the one x +. Now bounce ofd
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