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I just got an Evo last week and I have been loving it aside from the battery issues. I just noticed that this evo only support 3 point multitouch and some users had claimed that 5 point multitouch works for them.
Should I call Best Buy or Sprint and ask for one that support 5 point multitouch?
Is that even worth it?
Please advise.
A note on multitouch:
Some of you may have used my 5point multitouch test builds with success, others with failure. Research has shown that the Evo's contain at least 2 different versions of the touch sensor, one of which does not support 5point multitouch (but it DOES support 3point). You can check which sensor you have using adb by issuing the following command: "adb shell cat /sys/android_touch/vendor" and examining the result. If your result is ATMEL_x0080_x0016, your phone can support 5point. If your result is ATMEL_x004F_x0016, your phone will only support up to 3point.
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I verified that shell shows ATMEL_X004F
Oh yeah, DEFINITELY take it back. I don't know what I would do without those 2 extra points.
_MetalHead_ said:
Oh yeah, DEFINITELY take it back. I don't know what I would do without those 2 extra points.
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sad part is i can't tell if your being a smart ass of dead serious lol
I doubt you can return it as it doesnt effect performance unless there is such an app that supports 5 point touch. BTW this is due to the new batch of EVO's coming with the new screens, different connectors etc.
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sad part is i can't tell if your being a smart ass of dead serious lol
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The former. Don't tell OP though.
_MetalHead_ said:
The former. Don't tell OP though.
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LOL !!!
Sporkman said:
sad part is i can't tell if your being a smart ass of dead serious lol
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lol thought the same thing
I'm new to the Evo, that's why I asked. Am I missing out on something with not having 5 dots working?
jtadeo said:
lol thought the same thing
I'm new to the Evo, that's why I asked. Am I missing out on something with not having 5 dots working?
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Nah, you're fine. My old Evo had 5 point, my replacement that I just got has 3. There is no real world difference, no apps besides multipoint visualizer even make use of 3, and that's just a test program. Keep your Evo, and cherish and protect it with your life.
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Nah, you're fine. My old Evo had 5 point, my replacement that I just got has 3. There is no real world difference, no apps besides multipoint visualizer even make use of 3, and that's just a test program. Keep your Evo, and cherish and protect it with your life.
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Thanks for the info
already have this bad boy protected with bodyguardz full body skin
No prob. How do you like it so far? It's an amazing device, even with its unfortunate 3 point multitouch limitation!
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No prob. How do you like it so far? It's an amazing device, even with its unfortunate 3 point multitouch limitation!
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Runs great, but having some strange battery issues. Running the latest flipz rom and kings cfs #11 and the battery drops 20% within 10 minutes with hardly any use.
I performed a full reboot and didn't launch any apps and it did the same thing. I just Flashed netarchy-toastmod-4.1.9.1-cfs-havs-universal-signed so hopefully I get different results.
20% in the first 10 minutes is a little unusual, most people's Evo's tend to drop 10%. It has something to do with the way the phone charges the battery, once it gets up to 100% it stops charging altogether (no trickle) and doesn't start charging again till the battery drops down till about 90% (I believe). If you unplug your phone at 100%, turn it off and plug it back in until the light turns green and then turn it back on, you should get a full charge out of it. Also, your phone is new, so I'm sure it hasn't profiled the battery fully yet, which is probably where that extra 10% is coming from. Give it a few days and I'm sure you'll see it level out.
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20% in the first 10 minutes is a little unusual, most people's Evo's tend to drop 10%. It has something to do with the way the phone charges the battery, once it gets up to 100% it stops charging altogether (no trickle) and doesn't start charging again till the battery drops down till about 90% (I believe). If you unplug your phone at 100%, turn it off and plug it back in until the light turns green and then turn it back on, you should get a full charge out of it. Also, your phone is new, so I'm sure it hasn't profiled the battery fully yet, which is probably where that extra 10% is coming from. Give it a few days and I'm sure you'll see it level out.
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I haven't completely let it die out so that may be another problem. Lowest I have let this thing go is about 50%. I will try to drain it now, will report later.
Thanks again.
I only have 2 points =(
Mudkip said:
I only have 2 points =(
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If you are running a stock kernel then you will only have 2 points. You need to flash a custom kernel in order to have 3 or 5. Honestly though, there is no use for any more than 2 touchpoints.
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If you are running a stock kernel then you will only have 2 points. You need to flash a custom kernel in order to have 3 or 5. Honestly though, there is no use for any more than 2 touchpoints.
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i am running the cm6 kernal.
I dunno, I'm not on cm6 so I don't know what that kernel supports. Seriously though, have you come into any situation that required you to have more than 2? Didn't think so.
To everyone: Stop worrying about touchpoints, benchmarks, etc... and just enjoy your phones.
Hi all
I'm so sick of switching ROMs on my EVO 4G!! My battery life seems to suck no matter which ROM I try. I've tested my battery; it's fine. What I'd like is to be able to use Skype (just chatting; rarely use voice on Skype) with my EVO and get more than 3 hours battery life. I don't use Skype constantly; just want to be able to use the phone for more than a few hours before it becomes a paperweight!
Right now, pretty much as soon as I log into Skype on the EVO the batt drops to 80% and continues to drop every 30 min or so. Forget web browsing or texting; that kills it so fast it's dead in 2 hours.
I'm running Deodexed 4.24.651.1 and have tried Cyanomod, Baked Snack, Stock rooted and they all suck for battery life with Skype.
Maybe I need a different kernel?
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
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Hi all
I'm so sick of switching ROMs on my EVO 4G!! My battery life seems to suck no matter which ROM I try. I've tested my battery; it's fine. What I'd like is to be able to use Skype (just chatting; rarely use voice on Skype) with my EVO and get more than 3 hours battery life. I don't use Skype constantly; just want to be able to use the phone for more than a few hours before it becomes a paperweight!
Right now, pretty much as soon as I log into Skype on the EVO the batt drops to 80% and continues to drop every 30 min or so. Forget web browsing or texting; that kills it so fast it's dead in 2 hours.
I'm running Deodexed 4.24.651.1 and have tried Cyanomod, Baked Snack, Stock rooted and they all suck for battery life with Skype.
Maybe I need a different kernel?
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
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Maybe because it's Saturday. I'm surprised they haven't jumped on you for posting this in this section. None of the roms that are gingerbread will have the life you had on 2.2 unless the code gets released and the guys that make kernels can make new ones. Battery life on the roms vary but if it means alot you should try Calkulin's rom. He has an undervolting script built in that may work for you. If you flash a kernel from the 2.2 roms you might get better battery life but something will break in the rom, ie camera.
Awesome development work dude!!!!!! Cant wait to try it out. Where's the download link??
My first idea would be posting in the correct section, or, it sucks that Skype and battery life blow on this rom you developed.
Since that is over, are you wiping properly with a formatall.zip? Are you making sure to flash the correct kernels with the corresponding rom? Are you restoring any data with titanium backup?
Move this to the q&a and you will get the information you are looking for.
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I thought you had to have 10 posts before you could post in the dev section?
simple answer - skype though awesome also sucks.
for example just think about a laptop. my 7 hr macbook pro dies in under 2 hrs when i'm video or phone chatting on skype... shouldn't the same be expected for a cell? you're getting 3 hours, albeit only chatting as you say, but skype has been and remains a highly demanding application which although is convenient and widely used IMO is poorly written considering it's cpu and battery drainage. compared to simple web based google chat w/ video I get far superior battery life. like i said, my opinion, my experience. and yes as mentioned, try undervolting or SBC kernels or both. My EVO has ranged from stock settings 5 hr life to deck's w/ tiamat sbc + vipermod approx 40 hours (the 40 was when it was honestly just idle most of the time, occasional call or text a little bit of browsing, i was sick so on laptop mostly- although typical moderate daily use I would still be above 20% before plug in before sleep)
as long as you mentioned it, anyone happen to know a stable skype apk with video that was pulled? i've tried different sources and a bunch of my usual roms and I either get only back camera for a little then crashing or front camera green fuzziness and crash instantly.
Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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First off, I apologize for this being here. I THOUGHT I was posting in the Q & A threads so please don't be snarky. I had the other thread open in another browser tab going back and forth looking for input. How it got accepted I don't know; as I said I thought it was going into the QA area. Sorry.
To altman, yes; I am doing a complete format/wipe and only restoring essentials via Titanium.
To 'crammed', try Tango; it's decent video chat, is free and is soon to be released for desktops too so cell to pc video chat will work. Tango is nice that it lets you utilize both front/rear facing cams (and did I mention it's free?). The big problem is trying to chat with folks who don't have cell access/unlimited minutes who need a desktop option like Skype, which is why I use it. With family in Poland and UK, Skype's the best way to stay connected for free for me but again, they don't have the same cellular access/plans so it's not possible to do cell to cell.
Thanks for the input
OP created his/her account before the 10 post restriction went into effect. The change was not retroactive.
tango is cool....i also use ClearSea...it's got the pc support so you can video chat between cell and pc...works pretty nice over 3g...
just an idea....
Decks 1.2.1 stable ROM in "advanced settings" in settings go to performance, go to VM heap set to 48
Savaged Zen 2.2.1 cfs SBC kernel
Battery calibration (market app) follow in app instructions
Setcpu (market app) my settings are 1152 Max 245 min savagedzen governor
Download rom manager and run fix permissions
Let it all sit 3 days, takes kernel that long to set and battery life gets better after a few full charges
I get great battery life. I get upwards of 20 hours easy and I use my phone heavily so, hopefully this will help
Next time please post your questions in the q and a section, dev is for someone who has something they have developed for the community to use. Thanks
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You guys sound like he should be hanged for posting here. Lol people make mistakes, it isn't that big of an issue.
If battery life is an issue for you, you have a few options. You can jump to CM7 or Evo Deck and set them up properly. With either of those, you can flash a nice kernel and set clock speeds accordingly. Battery life is going to suck on any 2.3.3 Rom right now, because developers have no access to the source code for the kernel. HTC is taking their sweet time.
However, you can also look into extended batteries. I have a one I found on ebay for about $16, and it's wonderful. The phone has a little bulk now, but I am currently sitting at 16.25 hours off the charger, and I'm at 32%. This is also on Synergy currently, so there is no custom kernel or anything in use.
Just a few thoughts.
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GeneralSky2004 said:
You guys sound like he should be hanged for posting here. Lol people make mistakes, it isn't that big of an issue.
If battery life is an issue for you, you have a few options. You can jump to CM7 or Evo Deck and set them up properly. With either of those, you can flash a nice kernel and set clock speeds accordingly. Battery life is going to suck on any 2.3.3 Rom right now, because developers have no access to the source code for the kernel. HTC is taking their sweet time.
However, you can also look into extended batteries. I have a one I found on ebay for about $16, and it's wonderful. The phone has a little bulk now, but I am currently sitting at 16.25 hours off the charger, and I'm at 32%. This is also on Synergy currently, so there is no custom kernel or anything in use.
Just a few thoughts.
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+1. It's easy to screw up when you've been up all night downloading and flashing the newest versions of your favorite ROMs or desperately seeking the answers you need. No need to grab your torches once the first 14 people have cried "wrong section" (most of whom then offer advice afterward, enabling much?)
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Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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I have a better question:
Why is it that someone felt it necessary to bump a post that clearly was ignored by everyone and put on the second or third page just to flame someone?
This thread went unnoticed with no replies for over an hour and yet someone felt that necessary.
That **** is just as bad as posting in the wrong section, if not worse.
i have been a member of this forum for about a year now. and as you can tell i have very few posts. The ones i do are simply to say thanks to someone who made an awesome rom/kernel/etc. I spend most of the time searching for the answers im looking for. perhaps if you looked in the right section and researched a bit before you continuously flashed your phone you would know what is going on with it.
gotta love people that just jump of the cliff because the guy in front of did...
Check out my sig, AOSP setup would probably help you with battery life. Current radios too
Zac95 said:
Let it all sit 3 days, takes kernel that long to set and battery life gets better after a few full charges
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Can you elaborate on this a little? I don't necessarily wanna bump this thread, but being a Comp. Sci. major, this seems odd to me.. What does it mean for a kernel to 'set'?
Or are you talking about the collection of data for the accurate battery reading (batters stats)?
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First off, I apologize for this being here. I THOUGHT I was posting in the Q & A threads so please don't be snarky. I had the other thread open in another browser tab going back and forth looking for input. How it got accepted I don't know; as I said I thought it was going into the QA area. Sorry.
To altman, yes; I am doing a complete format/wipe and only restoring essentials via Titanium.
To 'crammed', try Tango; it's decent video chat, is free and is soon to be released for desktops too so cell to pc video chat will work. Tango is nice that it lets you utilize both front/rear facing cams (and did I mention it's free?). The big problem is trying to chat with folks who don't have cell access/unlimited minutes who need a desktop option like Skype, which is why I use it. With family in Poland and UK, Skype's the best way to stay connected for free for me but again, they don't have the same cellular access/plans so it's not possible to do cell to cell.
Thanks for the input
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Thanks for the tip. I wasn't directing the 10 post mark at you btw, more at moderators/XDA in general. My first account was locked for "spamming" I presume to get 10 posts whereas I actually spent hours answering ppl's questions in the q & a but I guess the short time frame wasn't liked. But I digress, I'm not so in need for cell to cell as much as a nice universal cell to cell/desktop cross platform and unfortunately skype is the most popular. My girlfriend as well as many friends/relatives also don't have the latest phones so the cell to desktop is wanted. for now I'm just sticking to gtalk, with isn't without it's errors either.
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Can you elaborate on this a little? I don't necessarily wanna bump this thread, but being a Comp. Sci. major, this seems odd to me.. What does it mean for a kernel to 'set'?
Or are you talking about the collection of data for the accurate battery reading (batters stats)?
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... Kernel to set meaning it takes a bit for it to settle down to the way it will normally function, call it "breaking it in" or like how you gotta drive a car a few thousand miles before your performance and MPG are where the manufacturer claims itll be... Yeah I kinda like the second analogy, go me!
Frequent flashing or flashing too soon sort of doesn't give the rom or kernel a chance because they haven't stabilized, often why some people praise while at the same time others curse a rom/kernel. Myself included :/ yikes. I found that to be true when deck was held up on his updates for almost a week and my phone was amazing, but I updated and went back into the loop of constant flashing so keep that in mind, if you're set on giving s rom and kernel a shot, give it at least a few days of the kind of use you NORMALLY would. If you're playing with it all day and it dies don't call it shotty battery life until you keep it in your pocket most of the day during the week. Not trying to berate anyone, I've done these same things myself, patience is a virtue after all.
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i have been a member of this forum for about a year now. and as you can tell i have very few posts. The ones i do are simply to say thanks to someone who made an awesome rom/kernel/etc. I spend most of the time searching for the answers im looking for. perhaps if you looked in the right section and researched a bit before you continuously flashed your phone you would know what is going on with it.
gotta love people that just jump of the cliff because the guy in front of did...
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lol reddy
I DID research the ROMs extensively; that's why I'm frustrated. I've tried so many after reading about how great they are. I'm not saying they AREN'T great either, just not working where I live. There's no 4G coverage already and 3G is spotty. Even if I don't load Skype at all I can't get 8 hours off my EVO before it dies.
When you rely on your phone for business like I do, even without Skype at all, you gotta be able to get through a normal workday or the phone's a pretty paperweight and not much else. Right now, I HAVE to plug it in at work or it won't last 8 hours and that just sux.
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lol reddy
I DID research the ROMs extensively; that's why I'm frustrated. I've tried so many after reading about how great they are. I'm not saying they AREN'T great either, just not working where I live. There's no 4G coverage already and 3G is spotty. Even if I don't load Skype at all I can't get 8 hours off my EVO before it dies.
When you rely on your phone for business like I do, even without Skype at all, you gotta be able to get through a normal workday or the phone's a pretty paperweight and not much else. Right now, I HAVE to plug it in at work or it won't last 8 hours and that just sux.
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Well then the issue lies with the network not your Rom
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Hi all,
I currently have a Samsung GS3, but I've been thinking about moving over to the one x. I much prefer the design and general feel of the handset. The main thing that's bugging me is the battery, I understand it'll be a down step from the GS3, I'm willing to sacrifice that, I'm just wondering how people deal with it... Custom kernels helping with battery etc.
I usually charge my phone every night, so will that be ok to live with the one x?
joeyh51 said:
Hi all,
I currently have a Samsung GS3, but I've been thinking about moving over to the one x. I much prefer the design and general feel of the handset. The main thing that's bugging me is the battery, I understand it'll be a down step from the GS3, I'm willing to sacrifice that, I'm just wondering how people deal with it... Custom kernels helping with battery etc.
I usually charge my phone every night, so will that be ok to live with the one x?
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Battery life is really good with the custom kernels and roms
Standby time is amazing. I left my phone overnight, started at 60% battery, about 6 or so hours later, guess how much I had left? 59%.
Screen on time isn't brilliant, but the average is 3-4 hours screen on time for most people.
The battery life is a massive step up from my dhd, certainly the gs2, and this is mainly down to the companion core in the tegra 3.
Don't fret about the battery life. I can't say for definite, but it's probably better than GS3 imo. This companion core really does do wonders
Edit: you mention you normally charge overnight, I do if I want to have a full charge for the next day, but with this phone its not actually necessary to charge overnight. Assuming you have at least some battery left lol
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Brilliant cheers for the reply. I'll give it ago I think and see what happens.
Seems to me that the rooting and installing custom ROM method is a lot more complicated on the HOX... Is that the case or am I just thinking its a lot more difficult?
It's not too complicated, just make sure you read instructions carefully. The only problem is no s-off yet, so you have to flash boot.img in fastboot mode using computer and unlock via HTC.dev
About battery. It's a biggest problem for me, but I'm a heavy user and sometimes charge during the day. But using it for music, sometimes browser, mail it should last during the day. Just make sure in the evening you have charger I mean, using auto brightness and switching off connections when not needed. despite of this, I really love this phone.
You'll fall in love too
I'm having great battery life with the OrDroid ROM. Averaging almost 4.5 hours of on screen time. Not anywhere near my 6.5 hours with the GS3, but I prefer the One X in most situations.
joeyh51 said:
Brilliant cheers for the reply. I'll give it ago I think and see what happens.
Seems to me that the rooting and installing custom ROM method is a lot more complicated on the HOX... Is that the case or am I just thinking its a lot more difficult?
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To be honest, rooting the Samsung phones looks complicated (I've never done it) however I'm sure it's fairly straightforward to do, once you know how Likewise with the hox, pretty easy once you know how.
Don't be put off by that, the rooting of hox is pretty easy, there's a good guide here that says literally everything you need to do it. Just read it a few times before attempting anything (do this with any of these sorta things imo) I think it's in general section you should be able to find it easily enough
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To be honest, rooting the Samsung phones looks complicated (I've never done it) however I'm sure it's fairly straightforward to do, once you know how Likewise with the hox, pretty easy once you know how.
Don't be put off by that, the rooting of hox is pretty easy, there's a good guide here that says literally everything you need to do it. Just read it a few times before attempting anything (do this with any of these sorta things imo) I think it's in general section you should be able to find it easily enough
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I have them both. The Samsung can be rooted right out of the box in one step. A whole lot easier.
But, once you get the hang of both of them, it's not that difficult to work with either.
Just ordered one
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I have them both. The Samsung can be rooted right out of the box in one step. A whole lot easier.
But, once you get the hang of both of them, it's not that difficult to work with either.
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Gotta say, this whole thing with HTC unnecessarily locking them down is gonna make me think hard when it comes to next phone
If it's the same as now, won't be that bad, it's just what else are htc going to do in future to restrict this development?
From their point of view I guess they have unlocked them, previous phones were just locked down but not very well.. They've just done the job properly on locking it down this time (pity not on qc lol)
Gah damn these stupid policies
Probably the wrong place for my little rant lol ^_^
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Ok, I will keep this short. I have had my GNEX for a couple months now and have been on a quest for the best battery life I can get. My boss has the Razr (not the MAXX!) and when we travell together, he can go all day with plenty of battery left. Granted he is on stock and I am rooted but I usually underclock to squeeze more out.
Anyways, with that said and that this is going to be short...
I search and search and search and search and search, you get the point, for threads where this is being discussed. All I EVER find is people talking some ish about Pandas die or something and the mods close it because they say "yes there is a best one, its the one that works for you". Serioiusly? WTF. What does that gain us, besides everyone (the ones on the outside looking in and the ones on the inside looking out alike) wasting their time.
With that said, here is my point. I understand that everyone has different scenarios for what is going on and everyone has different agendas. But for most people here, they have had their phones long enough to use the same apps, do the same stuff day in and day out that when THEY try different ROMs they can report their findings. Like me for example I have had my best results with AOKP but I only tried Liquid and Xenon other than that and only Leankernel and Trinity so far. Now if someone else came along and said they saw THEIR best battery life on ROM X and Kernel Y and they tried my combination, it would give me a jump start. After all isnt that the point of a community? Besides people beating their chests about pandas?
Rofl, pandas die. Also, this has been done many times in the past, everyone totes different combinations. It's almost pointless, the only reason you don't see all sorts of opinions on these threads it's because people recognize how much of a waste of time it is. I cannot tell you how much "you're mileage may vary" actually comes into play here. You just have to flash what you want to use, and often times, the effect of ROM on battery life does nothing but you perceive it as being helpful, because you enjoy the experience of the ROM, this "placebo" effect also haunts the forums. So the only thing you can be sure of, is when your battery life it's considerably worse than before, just wipe, flash new rom/kernel and try again.
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The reason he can go all day is because his phone has an extended battery. I think its like 3000mah or something. If you have the gsm version its only 1750 do the math of course his going to out last yours. There is no best ROM for battery. Or kernel. Its how you configure said ROM or kernel. If you want a setup to go buy visit the link in my SIG about my Franco setup. I get relatively great battery life as anyone that knows me will tell you. Also manage your networks. Do you toggle data when not in use? Do you have things syncing? How often? What apps are running in the foreground as well as the background?
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The reason he can go all day is because his phone has an extended battery. I think its like 3000mah or something. If you have the gsm version its only 1750 do the math of course his going to out last yours. There is no best ROM for battery. Or kernel. Its how you configure said ROM or kernel. If you want a setup to go buy visit the link in my SIG about my Franco setup. I get relatively great battery life as anyone that knows me will tell you. Also manage your networks. Do you toggle data when not in use? Do you have things syncing? How often? What apps are running in the foreground as well as the background?
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The normal RAZR has 3000mAh??
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The normal RAZR has 3000mAh??
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Oops I'm sorry read that wrong.
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danman421 said:
Ok, I will keep this short. I have had my GNEX for a couple months now and have been on a quest for the best battery life I can get. My boss has the Razr (not the MAXX!) and when we travell together, he can go all day with plenty of battery left. Granted he is on stock and I am rooted but I usually underclock to squeeze more out.
Anyways, with that said and that this is going to be short...
I search and search and search and search and search, you get the point, for threads where this is being discussed. All I EVER find is people talking some ish about Pandas die or something and the mods close it because they say "yes there is a best one, its the one that works for you". Serioiusly? WTF. What does that gain us, besides everyone (the ones on the outside looking in and the ones on the inside looking out alike) wasting their time.
With that said, here is my point. I understand that everyone has different scenarios for what is going on and everyone has different agendas. But for most people here, they have had their phones long enough to use the same apps, do the same stuff day in and day out that when THEY try different ROMs they can report their findings. Like me for example I have had my best results with AOKP but I only tried Liquid and Xenon other than that and only Leankernel and Trinity so far. Now if someone else came along and said they saw THEIR best battery life on ROM X and Kernel Y and they tried my combination, it would give me a jump start. After all isnt that the point of a community? Besides people beating their chests about pandas?
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1) the razr screen is not the same as the GN. there are more pixels per inch on the GN than the razr.
2) you can never have the best combination. every phone is different. my verizon gnex i had cant handle overclocking past 1.4Ghz. ive seen threads on this forum where people have gotten to 1.8Ghz.
what works for you, will not always work for me and vice versa.
Go to location settings and uncheck Google's location service and GPS satellites. Open app drawer and navigate to the settings widget, long press to put on homescreen, select Location services when prompted for widget type (so that you can quickly turn those on for Maps or Navigation.
Presto, decrease idle battery draw from 2 to 3% per hour to 2% every three hours.
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Oops I'm sorry read that wrong.
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Lol I was about to say XD
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i think its time for them to know the benefits of the silk covered battery.
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I'm just thinking from Windows perspective, considering MS can corrupt files if you pull out laptop battery before shutting down the windows. How about with Android? If I pull out a battery before shutting it down, will anything in N2 going to get corrupted?
Here is why I'm asking. For anybody with Zerolemon, you can probably relate to this. The battery is huge and TPU case is tight, so on one occasion when I was taking case off I pulled the battery out as well. And in general, while I'm switching between TPU case and Defender mod, if I pull out a battery in the middle of use without shutting down N2, would it cause a problem?
i've tried it when its annoys me
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I don't think so. I've done it countless times, but I switch ROMs so often that *maybe* the slight software defects go unnoticed. I think its fine though.
Just a guess here, but I would say yes to this an any other electronic device BUT.................we have come a long way in the IT field!! Most Servers (I said Servers, not cell phones?) have an internal battery that prevents (in a way?) this sort of thing. I can pull the plug, but its still several seconds before it actually shuts down (depending on WHAT was actually running when I pulled the plug.)
With that said, and after I thought about it, maybe not. just like letting your battery die? Phone will shut itself off automatically to save settings, so there maybe a little juice just for this?
Just a thought.
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I'm just thinking from Windows perspective, considering MS can corrupt files if you pull out laptop battery before shutting down the windows. How about with Android? If I pull out a battery before shutting it down, will anything in N2 going to get corrupted?
Here is why I'm asking. For anybody with Zerolemon, you can probably relate to this. The battery is huge and TPU case is tight, so on one occasion when I was taking case off I pulled the battery out as well. And in general, while I'm switching between TPU case and Defender mod, if I pull out a battery in the middle of use without shutting down N2, would it cause a problem?
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The answer to your question is "it depends." It's like running a stop light. Maybe it's OK, maybe it's disaster.
I've been using Android since 2009 and I DID have one incident pulling the battery. I needed to change batteries and powered down. I was in a rush so I pulled the battery before it was fully down. Big mistake. When I put the new battery in and powered up I was at the factory reset. I had to reinstall everything. Very bad.
On the other hand, I've removed the battery, either on purpose or accidentally, many times over the years and only that one time did I have a problem.
I've been pulling batteries for years with no ill effects... He'll that's how we fixed glitches on blackberry and htc devices.
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I do it all the time and never had a problem. Android is based on Linux which is in turn quite different from windows. You don't need to shut down Linux either. You can just pull the plug out while you're in the desktop and apart from the fact you'll loose any unsaved changes to your documents there will be no ill effects.
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I have been pulling my battery for years, even in the old Windows Mobile & PocketPC days. The only thing, I could think of, is to be careful about **(in my opinion) is if you had something writing some type binary file to the external SD card.
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I do it all the time and never had a problem. Android is based on Linux which is in turn quite different from windows. You don't need to shut down Linux either. You can just pull the plug out while you're in the desktop and apart from the fact you'll loose any unsaved changes to your documents there will be no ill effects.
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Then you're lucky. The file system is still open and can get corrupted.
That's not to say I haven't done that, but pulling the battery from a running system is my last resort, not my first choice.
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No. I've been pulling batteries on over a dozen devices for years. Nothing will happen.
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Then you're lucky. The file system is still open and can get corrupted.
That's not to say I haven't done that, but pulling the battery from a running system is my last resort, not my first choice.
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This is true.
I dropped my phone, my battery fell out,v and all my data from Simpson's tapped out got corrupted. Rare, but it can still happen.
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Then you're lucky. The file system is still open and can get corrupted.
That's not to say I haven't done that, but pulling the battery from a running system is my last resort, not my first choice.
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Listen to this guy!! I have been in IT since 1983, pulling the battery could cost you millions! ($1.8Million to be exact) The good side, I got 50 shares of stock to fly to Dallas and rebuild server! :good: Listen to John, last resort.
What I have found with Android, as stated, if you have something open, you lose it AND you sometimes get 1/2 way up (Android Guy), then have to use power button to shut it off, then power button to cut it on. Good Luck!
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No. I've been pulling batteries on over a dozen devices for years. Nothing will happen.
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In general that's the point of using a journaling file system, but it is not complete immunity from corruption.
Rare, but not impossible.
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In general that's the point of using a journaling file system, but it is not complete immunity from corruption.
Rare, but not impossible.
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I agree with you 100%, not completely an assurance with a product like Visions Solutions ODS/OMS or MIMIX for journaling BUT, worst case, both servers are in same Data Center and you lose power and generator does not kick in? Best case, you only lose last transaction, role swap to target, activate user IP on target, let users work, switch them back when ready on source system, let journaling catch up.............
I've don't that a few times I guess you can tell John? Oh, and if you work for a Casino company, that property is losing 'X' hundreds of thousand of dollars a minute because all machines automatically shut down and you have some a** reminding you of such every 15 seconds or so and how they have to give customers free food and drinks to keep them from leaving and you need to work faster !! I should have studied harder in college and been doctor or lawyer like my mother said?
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It amazes me when I give a common sense best practice coming from far more years of experience than I would care to admit to; then having it dismissed in an off hand fashion of "it hasn't happened to me yet, so it can't be a problem." It only takes one time.
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dsims:
It amazes me when I give a common sense best practice coming from far more years of experience than I would care to admit to; then having it dismissed in an off hand fashion of "it hasn't happened to me yet, so it can't be a problem." It only takes one time.
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Back on topic and to the OP, this guy (his name is John?) seem to know a few things. LISTEN to him!! You can pull that battery a million times successfully with no problem. It only takes ONCE and all hell breaks loose (like your in the middle of Android update or camera was open and you loose all you pictures?) there are other options, soft reset or ask someone here. You get an answer pretty fast.. ........
The only other thing I can add? Backup your phone often and move backup to your laptop, desktop, USB Drive.......Whatever. And if your into rooting and flashing ROM's, Titanium Backup is a must!! I think I paid like $9.00 but its a life saver!! I have mine auto set for 3AM Monday?,
Either way, good luck!
John,
Since we are all friends here, quick funny story. I worked for payroll processing company. we were doing new internet project and along the way, it never worked correctly. They hired this white boy (I will explain that later!) as president of some crap from M.I.T. and as I used to work for IBM, he wanted me. He had this bright idea to upgrade and do re-org on DB as same time. In planning this, I found IBM White Paper stating "Not to do this unless instructed by IBM Development?" I did not test this, I just showed idiot this paper? His thing was, "Don't worry about it, I will do it myself?" My thing to my direct manager..............I was told to leave him alone. I always knew DB2 and Orcale did not play nice. I know DB2, not Orcale, but I know they are not friends. Friday he did it, Saturday I was on my way to dallas!
Now said white boy as an a**! A A** to everyone around except me and another brother. He treated us like pets for some odd reason. BB (I use initials) leased a Lexus on company because he told him he was tired of putting mileage on his car? I got suite at hotel because I was working MAD hours and r.oom was killing me. One hand, I hated him. He dropped my bosses budget from $5Million to like $250K? but hey, he was hooking me up?
The VERY next Tuesday upon my return, he wanted to talk. Idiot had plan for Friday to again do this. My thing was, we need to bring in IBM Development. His thing was.,"I have 2 Masters from M.I.T, I don't need IBM!" I told my manager AND his boss at the same time (I'll never forget cause it seems like yesterday) "Don't call me this weekend and if you I will immediately resign!" Now me and my manager were like brothers, he** I loved him more then my actual brothers! We had travled the together, our families knew each other. He knew I was serious!
Friday I go to Happy Hour then Liquor Store for bottle of Remy' Martin and case of beer. 2:00AM I start to get hammered. 8:00AM doorbell rings, its my manager, he just tells me to read this! A note from CEO, fly to Dallas, fix AS400 (AS400? that funny cause they have changed Server name like 3 times since then?) and I will give you 50 shares of stock and anything Hardware Support needs? I'm drunk and tired and don't feel like packing crap. Manager says, I'll take you to PHL and go with you, we can get clothes in Dallas? Hum................
After my return, a few things changed!!! I personally had lunch with CEO (he was in another city, saw pictures, but never met him?) He told me this could never happen again. I told him I told his choice idiot, my manager, and 3 other VP's days before his planning, NOT to do it. He told me if I have any trouble out of idiot, call his cell phone and gave me his cell number. After him, idiot and I meet. What can we do to prevent this?
1. Don't do it again, bring in IBM. Done
2. The 11 guys in my department have been doing my work remotely and helping me on this internet project. They need new laptops. Thinkpads. 1.5GHz Duel Core with 2GB of memory (Hey, that was huge back then!) Done.
3. I have really been busting my a** from 7:30AM to 10:00PM 7 days a week. I really need some rest and get away. Additionally, I have no clue whats going on in my department............................I would have been fine with weekend in AC, 45 minute drive. Me, 11 people in my group including manger AND their family's flew to Disney. We had 2 hour meeting in conference room on Friday and partied like he** until Monday!!
Like you stated, it's one in a million pulling that battery, but if you get that once, there is a HUGE price attached!
Hope you all enjoyed my story!