Hi all,
I currently have a Samsung GS3, but I've been thinking about moving over to the one x. I much prefer the design and general feel of the handset. The main thing that's bugging me is the battery, I understand it'll be a down step from the GS3, I'm willing to sacrifice that, I'm just wondering how people deal with it... Custom kernels helping with battery etc.
I usually charge my phone every night, so will that be ok to live with the one x?
joeyh51 said:
Hi all,
I currently have a Samsung GS3, but I've been thinking about moving over to the one x. I much prefer the design and general feel of the handset. The main thing that's bugging me is the battery, I understand it'll be a down step from the GS3, I'm willing to sacrifice that, I'm just wondering how people deal with it... Custom kernels helping with battery etc.
I usually charge my phone every night, so will that be ok to live with the one x?
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Battery life is really good with the custom kernels and roms
Standby time is amazing. I left my phone overnight, started at 60% battery, about 6 or so hours later, guess how much I had left? 59%.
Screen on time isn't brilliant, but the average is 3-4 hours screen on time for most people.
The battery life is a massive step up from my dhd, certainly the gs2, and this is mainly down to the companion core in the tegra 3.
Don't fret about the battery life. I can't say for definite, but it's probably better than GS3 imo. This companion core really does do wonders
Edit: you mention you normally charge overnight, I do if I want to have a full charge for the next day, but with this phone its not actually necessary to charge overnight. Assuming you have at least some battery left lol
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Brilliant cheers for the reply. I'll give it ago I think and see what happens.
Seems to me that the rooting and installing custom ROM method is a lot more complicated on the HOX... Is that the case or am I just thinking its a lot more difficult?
It's not too complicated, just make sure you read instructions carefully. The only problem is no s-off yet, so you have to flash boot.img in fastboot mode using computer and unlock via HTC.dev
About battery. It's a biggest problem for me, but I'm a heavy user and sometimes charge during the day. But using it for music, sometimes browser, mail it should last during the day. Just make sure in the evening you have charger I mean, using auto brightness and switching off connections when not needed. despite of this, I really love this phone.
You'll fall in love too
I'm having great battery life with the OrDroid ROM. Averaging almost 4.5 hours of on screen time. Not anywhere near my 6.5 hours with the GS3, but I prefer the One X in most situations.
joeyh51 said:
Brilliant cheers for the reply. I'll give it ago I think and see what happens.
Seems to me that the rooting and installing custom ROM method is a lot more complicated on the HOX... Is that the case or am I just thinking its a lot more difficult?
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To be honest, rooting the Samsung phones looks complicated (I've never done it) however I'm sure it's fairly straightforward to do, once you know how Likewise with the hox, pretty easy once you know how.
Don't be put off by that, the rooting of hox is pretty easy, there's a good guide here that says literally everything you need to do it. Just read it a few times before attempting anything (do this with any of these sorta things imo) I think it's in general section you should be able to find it easily enough
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lawrence750 said:
To be honest, rooting the Samsung phones looks complicated (I've never done it) however I'm sure it's fairly straightforward to do, once you know how Likewise with the hox, pretty easy once you know how.
Don't be put off by that, the rooting of hox is pretty easy, there's a good guide here that says literally everything you need to do it. Just read it a few times before attempting anything (do this with any of these sorta things imo) I think it's in general section you should be able to find it easily enough
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I have them both. The Samsung can be rooted right out of the box in one step. A whole lot easier.
But, once you get the hang of both of them, it's not that difficult to work with either.
Just ordered one
Baldilocks said:
I have them both. The Samsung can be rooted right out of the box in one step. A whole lot easier.
But, once you get the hang of both of them, it's not that difficult to work with either.
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Gotta say, this whole thing with HTC unnecessarily locking them down is gonna make me think hard when it comes to next phone
If it's the same as now, won't be that bad, it's just what else are htc going to do in future to restrict this development?
From their point of view I guess they have unlocked them, previous phones were just locked down but not very well.. They've just done the job properly on locking it down this time (pity not on qc lol)
Gah damn these stupid policies
Probably the wrong place for my little rant lol ^_^
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I've been using the s2 for more than 7 months now and recently got a Galaxy Nexus. I don't know if this is a downgrade but there are definitely a lot of areas where the s2 just trashes the galaxy nexus.
1. S2 Camera is definitely better than the galaxy nexus, although the shutter speed of the GN is faaast.
2. S2 has better codec support for movies plus it renders movies faster. I'm using MX player on the GN and it takes 3-5 seconds when jumping between scenes. Even fast forwarding is slow.
3. Super amoled + is much much brighter than regular super amoled. It took a few days for my eyes to adjust to the screen's "dimness" and yellowish color. I'm sure you'll experience this if it's your first time viewing super amoled coming from the s2.
4. Battery on the GN is a little worse than the s2, I'm usually at 30 percent before the end of the day with barely 1.5 hr screen time.
The development of the GN on the other hand is amazing. The software of the s2 has gotten pretty stale thanks to samsung and their ICS implementation just blows. A lot of guys were still on GB even when ICS came out. The GN is still a mixed bag for me, maybe by the time the next iteration of android comes out it'll pay off.
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I've been using the s2 for more than 7 months now and recently got a Galaxy Nexus. I don't know if this is a downgrade but there are definitely a lot of areas where the s2 just trashes the galaxy nexus.
1. S2 Camera is definitely better than the galaxy nexus, although the shutter speed of the GN is faaast.
2. S2 has better codec support for movies plus it renders movies faster. I'm using MX player on the GN and it takes 3-5 seconds when jumping between scenes. Even fast forwarding is slow.
3. Super amoled + is much much brighter than regular super amoled. It took a few days for my eyes to adjust to the screen's "dimness" and yellowish color. I'm sure you'll experience this if it's your first time viewing super amoled coming from the s2.
4. Battery on the GN is a little worse than the s2, I'm usually at 30 percent before the end of the day with barely 1.5 hr screen time.
The development of the GN on the other hand is amazing. The software of the s2 has gotten pretty stale thanks to samsung and their ICS implementation just blows. A lot of guys were still on GB even when ICS came out. The GN is still a mixed bag for me, maybe by the time the next iteration of android comes out it'll pay off.
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And after 444 posts you still don't understand what is to put in the "Android Developement" section? That's Amazing man!!
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And after 444 posts you still don't understand what is to put in the "Android Developement" section? That's Amazing man!!
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+1 it's truly amazing how many people cannot read or follow rules/directions.
Pretty sure this Development section is the wrong place for an opinions thread.
To not seem like a jerk though, I'll share. I had an SG2, my GNex battery lasts on avg 35 hours with normal texting/facebook/calls. with gaming still get around 18hours.
I HATED the lag in screen wake with the SG2. (it's due to the way SG2 goes into deep sleep)
& Screen brightness? Honestly, I never have the brightness more than 60% unless showing off pictures.
Woops didnt mean that sorry . Mods if you'd kindly move my thread now before everyone flames my ass: )
Yeah one of the reasons why i wanted to switch my s2 was the wake up lag and the annoying home button lag . Seems allsamsung branded phones come with this now.
I had an htc sensation and a galaxy s2 before getting my Nexus, and all I can say is this: Root your nexus, install Aokp, foxhound, gummy, liquid, or paranoid (paranoid =coolest rom EVER) rom, install popcorn kernel and overclock to 1,4 , use root toolkit to increase camera quality to high, and then tell me if your still not happy with your Nexus :-D
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Dai323 said:
I had an htc sensation and a galaxy s2 before getting my Nexus, and all I can say is this: Root your nexus, install Aokp, foxhound, gummy, liquid, or paranoid (paranoid =coolest rom EVER) rom, install popcorn kernel and overclock to 1,4 , use root toolkit to increase camera quality to high, and then tell me if your still not happy with your Nexus :-D
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I'm not happy that you said use toolkit. People need to start learning how to root / do things without the toolkit.
zephiK said:
I'm not happy that you said use toolkit. People need to start learning how to root / do things without the toolkit.
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That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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The point is that person is understanding the process of what rooting is. In the long run, it'll be better for them rather than making a new thread asking the same questions.
I never said I was better than anybody. People take things for granted, I've started using Android since the G1 days where we had to obtain root via typing things in terminal emulator / ADB to obtain root. Not use a toolkit. Having root access and flashing ROMs/kernels/radios is a valuable step in Android, it can't be spoon fed to you. The person has to put some effort into knowing what their doing. Otherwise they'll just make a bunch of threads asking the same questions because they didn't know what the toolkit was doing. Same concept goes for mathematics and science. If you don't know how the formula is derived then you're just walking in the dark.
If installing drivers for your phone then typing,
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
is too difficult for them to understand then they shouldn't be rooting and tinkering with their phone. It is Android 101, if they dont understand the basics of ADB / fastboot then they will have problems in the long run and keep saying that their phone is bricked because they don't understand the process of fastboot flashing back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 8 pages here... for the most part they agree with the point I made here.
babymatteo said:
That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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Not being funny but that's how You like you'r fone set up, don't mean he's gonna like it too
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zephiK said:
The point is that person is understanding the process of what rooting is. In the long run, it'll be better for them rather than making a new thread asking the same questions.
I never said I was better than anybody. People take things for granted, I've started using Android since the G1 days where we had to obtain root via typing things in terminal emulator / ADB to obtain root. Not use a toolkit. Having root access and flashing ROMs/kernels/radios is a valuable step in Android, it can't be spoon fed to you. The person has to put some effort into knowing what their doing. Otherwise they'll just make a bunch of threads asking the same questions because they didn't know what the toolkit was doing. Same concept goes for mathematics and science. If you don't know how the formula is derived then you're just walking in the dark.
If installing drivers for your phone then typing,
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
is too difficult for them to understand then they shouldn't be rooting and tinkering with their phone. It is Android 101, if they dont understand the basics of ADB / fastboot then they will have problems in the long run and keep saying that their phone is bricked because they don't understand the process of fastboot flashing back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 8 pages here... for the most part they agree with the point I made here.
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I also started in the G1 days, and have had 7 or 8 phones and 2 tablets. I know how to use Odin, fastboot, ect. Yeah, knowing those methods is of course great, but not relevant to what the OP is talking about right now. Having the toolkit available is another reason why I like the Nexus so much, and if he's saying he a not happy in general with the Nexus, difficult or more complex rooting methods won't help convince him otherwise.
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Dai323 said:
I also started in the G1 days, and have had 7 or 8 phones and 2 tablets. I know how to use Odin, fastboot, ect. Yeah, knowing those methods is of course great, but not relevant to what the OP is talking about right now. Having the toolkit available is another reason why I like the Nexus so much, and if he's saying he a not happy in general with the Nexus, difficult or more complex rooting methods won't help convince him otherwise.
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All of this is relevant. Especially when YOU told the OP to start flashing his phone etc etc. What made you think the OP is a person that likes to be flashing ROMs? He could be one of those individuals who feels that the GN is good as the way it is and wants to leave it stock and leave future updates in the hands of Google?
If anyone starts flashing their phone they should ALWAYS know the common knowledge of how to fastboot and use ADB. It is a absolute NECESSITY, especially if people are having problems with their phones. The cause of this is because people are unaware of what's going on because they're using a toolkit.
Galaxy Nexus (and other Nexus devices) are not hard to root/unlock bootloader compared to other phones. Drivers, fastboot oem unlock, flash custom recovery.
Other phones you have to do so much more.. take a look at Motorola.
That's like saying if a friend asked you for the solution to a math problem. Would you feed him the answer? No. Guide him in the right direction to learn and expand his mind. It's not that difficult. The hardest part of rooting a Galaxy Nexus is getting the drivers installed. And if you have a Mac, that's even easier. No drivers needed.
You both have valid points here...but this thread still needs to be moved
avyonix said:
You both have valid points here...but this thread still needs to be moved
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then report the thread so a moderator can move it.
done
zephiK said:
All of this is relevant. Especially when YOU told the OP to start flashing his phone etc etc. What made you think the OP is a person that likes to be flashing ROMs? He could be one of those individuals who feels that the GN is good as the way it is and wants to leave it stock and leave future updates in the hands of Google?
If anyone starts flashing their phone they should ALWAYS know the common knowledge of how to fastboot and use ADB. It is a absolute NECESSITY, especially if people are having problems with their phones. The cause of this is because people are unaware of what's going on because they're using a toolkit.
Galaxy Nexus (and other Nexus devices) are not hard to root/unlock bootloader compared to other phones. Drivers, fastboot oem unlock, flash custom recovery.
Other phones you have to do so much more.. take a look at Motorola.
That's like saying if a friend asked you for the solution to a math problem. Would you feed him the answer? No. Guide him in the right direction to learn and expand his mind. It's not that difficult. The hardest part of rooting a Galaxy Nexus is getting the drivers installed. And if you have a Mac, that's even easier. No drivers needed.
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Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
ThANKS
hp13 said:
Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
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No. Just...no.
hp13 said:
Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
ThANKS
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Ease of convenience does not always make for better solutions. Short cuts don't always work out so well and if your going to be modifying your device why not take the time to learn the correct methods? But on the other hand, to each their own.
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hp13 said:
just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know.
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Correct but if you plan on rooting it you most definitely should know the steps behind it.
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seriously? who cares how people root their phone...go outside.
and yeah op, the gnex is pretty sweet for roms and mods, but yeah the s2 has some better attributes then the nexus
I just got the Galaxy S3 I747M on Friday, from Rogers.
I feel like I am seeing colour for the first time, after being shackled to an iPhone 4 and the restraints of the Apple "universe".
I was a heavy jailbreaker/customizer and want to continue on this phone. But I have no idea where to start. So many custom ROMs and what looks like 3-4 things I have to do/install before actually installing a ROM. Is there a comprehensive explanation of what needs to be done and why?
Also, any general tips/must have apps for Android? I find this phone's battery life is not stellar, but have read on here that there is a ROM that seems to help with that.
linuxbman said:
I just got the Galaxy S3 I747M on Friday, from Rogers.
I feel like I am seeing colour for the first time, after being shackled to an iPhone 4 and the restraints of the Apple "universe".
I was a heavy jailbreaker/customizer and want to continue on this phone. But I have no idea where to start. So many custom ROMs and what looks like 3-4 things I have to do/install before actually installing a ROM. Is there a comprehensive explanation of what needs to be done and why?
Also, any general tips/must have apps for Android? I find this phone's battery life is not stellar, but have read on here that there is a ROM that seems to help with that.
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welcome...
i have only been a heavy Android user since December, but there are some good reference guides in the sticky under this form and under the old North American S3 Forum...(http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1667)
make sure u follow the rooting process that does not trip the flash counter... if u do, then no worries cause there is an app (Triangle Away) that works to reset the flash counter..
you can always go back to Unrooted stock by downloading the stock ROM's
I am on Rogers as well and i am using the KyanROM 1.2.. and it;s pretty solid.. i get pretty good battery life and using Faux123's Kernel along with it to over clock it makes it even sweeter..
there is a sticky found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728824) that gives u a pretty good guide on what to do from start to Rooted happiness...
have fun!
I haven't had any problems with battery life and I just rooted mine 1 hour ago I've had it since Thursday. There is a sticky that gives you detailed step by step root instructions.
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linuxbman said:
I just got the Galaxy S3 I747M on Friday, from Rogers.
I feel like I am seeing colour for the first time, after being shackled to an iPhone 4 and the restraints of the Apple "universe".
I was a heavy jailbreaker/customizer and want to continue on this phone. But I have no idea where to start. So many custom ROMs and what looks like 3-4 things I have to do/install before actually installing a ROM. Is there a comprehensive explanation of what needs to be done and why?
Also, any general tips/must have apps for Android? I find this phone's battery life is not stellar, but have read on here that there is a ROM that seems to help with that.
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I was the same as you. I got one x on launch day like 3 months ago and bricked it. It was my fault. Just research !!! Its very hard to brick an iPhone its very easy to brick an android. I'm on the new AOKP with ktoon kernel this phone is just flat out bada$$ just take your time and research
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Research research research. Make sure to research how to unbrick the phone especially so you won't be panicked if you manage to softbrick your device.
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Out with the old and in with the new...
Coming from iOS (after 6+ years) and loving all the homebrew stuff in the Android universe.
Got a Garnet Red GS3 on Friday, rooted and installed CM9 Preview on Saturday
linuxbman said:
I just got the Galaxy S3 I747M on Friday, from Rogers.
I feel like I am seeing colour for the first time, after being shackled to an iPhone 4 and the restraints of the Apple "universe".
I was a heavy jailbreaker/customizer and want to continue on this phone. But I have no idea where to start. So many custom ROMs and what looks like 3-4 things I have to do/install before actually installing a ROM. Is there a comprehensive explanation of what needs to be done and why?
Also, any general tips/must have apps for Android? I find this phone's battery life is not stellar, but have read on here that there is a ROM that seems to help with that.
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The best thing about Android is that you dont have to root or ROM to do everything that you needed to Jailbreak your iPhone to do. Does that make sense?
I have only rooted my S3 so far to get the ability to apply a few tweaks but I dont plan on ROMing it anytime soon. Runs like a champ.
I am also a new user to the android world, and though my experience I got to say do your research and back up everything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
Was a great guide for me to flash a rooted stock rom, very simple process just need to be careful, and how to install clockworkmod recovery.
As for apps, i love my titanium backup and is worth every penny especially if you start to try different roms. One thing is if your move across different rom types most of the time you will need to wipe your data, probably the safest thing to do anyways based on my research. I got stuck in the boot screen and only way for me at that time to fix was to wipe my data.
Well i think it is. I rooted my phone last night and installed the beats drivers from the Play Store. Shortly, it froze and went straight to the Samsung logo. I can still go into both recovery and download mode, but what do I do after that? I've heard about Odin....but how do i exactly put the custom roms into my phone, and which ones? And if any one can point me to a guide or tutorial, ill be extremely relieved. I'm new to the website as well as android, so if anyone could please help me out, thanks
When you rooted did you NANDROID backup ? If not go into recovery and clear cache and then go into advanced and wipe delvik cache. reboot
If that fails go back into recovery and do a factory reset and you should be ok.
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Well i think it is. I rooted my phone last night and installed the beats drivers from the Play Store. Shortly, it froze and went straight to the Samsung logo. I can still go into both recovery and download mode, but what do I do after that? I've heard about Odin....but how do i exactly put the custom roms into my phone, and which ones? And if any one can point me to a guide or tutorial, ill be extremely relieved. I'm new to the website as well as android, so if anyone could please help me out, thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727401
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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I disagree as long as you are willing to learn from the mistake all is good. I had a Samsung Exhibit II and deleted touch wiz launched (I was using go launcher) later I would do a factory reset and well... learned that system files do not get restored when you do a factory reset...oops
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I agree, we all were NOOBS at some point. That's the one thing I love about XDA is that with patience and the help of the users any noob can learn how to mod their devices. One piece of advice that I can offer is before you do any type of modding is READ and keep on READING. I have bricked the first device I ever rooted because I did not READ the forums as they are meant to be read.
z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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Yea, not cool dude..remember that WE were all NOOBS at some point in time, therefore we should support and help one another. As for what to do next, follow "Saldebot's" instructions and you should be fine. Sounds like it's only a soft brick. Just keep reading and learning as much as you can bud.
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Thanks guys, it worked. And my bad for not reading alot, im kinda new to this lol
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not fair
z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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touchdownadrian said:
Thanks guys, it worked. And my bad for not reading alot, im kinda new to this lol
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It's not the noobs who shouldn't be rooting... It's the lazy and careless who should stick to stock. If you are careful and diligent, rooting and all the good stuff that comes with it is easy and rewarding.
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It's not the noobs who shouldn't be rooting... It's the lazy and careless who should stick to stock. If you are careful and diligent, rooting and all the good stuff that comes with it is easy and rewarding.
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I whole-heartily agree, I was a freshman noob August 1st this year, by August 4th I was flashing like a pro. Left and right, ROMs, Kernels, Modifying system files, you name it. I wanted to streamline my phone and future proof it somewhat by overclocking. I spent 3 days researching and educating myself, finding the best ROMs, weighing pros and cons, and when it came time to flash, I was on my PC all day making sure whatever I did wouldn't brick me. I carefully analyzed and learned about virtually all methods of flashing by watching tons of videos and reading a bunch of tutorials by several sources. I MD5 checksum'd every zip to be flashed on my phone using an app (to ensure download and transfer was successful). I must have verified that the files I was preparing to flash were indeed for my device make and model about a dozen times before ever touching a button. When I went to flash over my first custom Kernel (even though I had already flashed 2 custom ROMs shortly before that), on that last button my hands were literally shaking, I could not afford a second Galaxy S III. Everything went beautifully, all of my careful planning and hours of invested research payed off. I had done everything right and was rewarded with better battery life (about +50% on heavy load and +500% on idle) and performance (+25%).
My girlfriend also has a Galaxy s3 and she wanted the same performance I was getting. I flashed the exact same software to her device I had to mine, no changes.
Total time invested in flash on my device: 36 hours, at least
Total time invested in flash on her device: 1 hour... if that
The bottom line is yes, if you're not willing to put forth the effort and educate yourself first, you probably shouldn't be doing this. There are guides and tutorials out there for noobs and I would recommend you go there first until you know your way around your device. That way at least you have a little experience on your belt before you start doing anything too advanced (I did this when I was rooting my device for the first time).
As a side note, I know there are a lot of people out there worried about doing anything that could potentially brick their device. That is always a real possibility, I'm not going to lie to you, it happens more often than you think. However in just about every case of bricking you'll ever hear about, it's usually someone flashing something they're not suppose to, like a ROM designed for a different make and model of device, or something experimental that wasn't ready yet. Do all your homework (from multiple corroborating sources) before you undergo a flash and as long as you do everything "by the book" (so to speak) and don't rush through things by being lazy, you should be fine. Some even flash nightlies (yeah they're called that for a reason, updated versions of the ROM they currently have) EVERY NIGHT!!! In the end when you have an android device, you have an open source platform at your fingertips and you should take advantage of that, it would be a waste not to. If not, your next device might as well be an iPhone. They're great for noobs and as long as you're ok drinking whatever punch Apple gives you, they're pretty much impossible to brick since you can't do a whole lot with them. Apple will be happy to take your money and stiff you with closed source for it.
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I whole-heartily agree, I was a freshman noob August 1st this year, by August 4th I was flashing like a pro. Left and right, ROMs, Kernels, Modifying system files, you name it. I wanted to streamline my phone and future proof it somewhat by overclocking. I spent 3 days researching and educating myself, finding the best ROMs, weighing pros and cons, and when it came time to flash, I was on my PC all day making sure whatever I did wouldn't brick me. I carefully analyzed and learned about virtually all methods of flashing by watching tons of videos and reading a bunch of tutorials by several sources. I MD5 checksum'd every zip to be flashed on my phone using an app (to ensure download and transfer was successful). I must have verified that the files I was preparing to flash were indeed for my device make and model about a dozen times before ever touching a button. When I went to flash over my first custom Kernel (even though I had already flashed 2 custom ROMs shortly before that), on that last button my hands were literally shaking, I could not afford a second Galaxy S III. Everything went beautifully, all of my careful planning and hours of invested research payed off. I had done everything right and was rewarded with better battery life (about +50% on heavy load and +500% on idle) and performance (+25%).
My girlfriend also has a Galaxy s3 and she wanted the same performance I was getting. I flashed the exact same software to her device I had to mine, no changes.
Total time invested in flash on my device: 36 hours, at least
Total time invested in flash on her device: 1 hour... if that
The bottom line is yes, if you're not willing to put forth the effort and educate yourself first, you probably shouldn't be doing this. There are guides and tutorials out there for noobs and I would recommend you go there first until you know your way around your device. That way at least you have a little experience on your belt before you start doing anything too advanced (I did this when I was rooting my device for the first time).
As a side note, I know there are a lot of people out there worried about doing anything that could potentially brick their device. That is always a real possibility, I'm not going to lie to you, it happens more often than you think. However in just about every case of bricking you'll ever hear about, it's usually someone flashing something they're not suppose to, like a ROM designed for a different make and model of device, or something experimental that wasn't ready yet. Do all your homework (from multiple corroborating sources) before you undergo a flash and as long as you do everything "by the book" (so to speak) and don't rush through things by being lazy, you should be fine. Some even flash nightlies (yeah they're called that for a reason, updated versions of the ROM they currently have) EVERY NIGHT!!! In the end when you have an android device, you have an open source platform at your fingertips and you should take advantage of that, it would be a waste not to. If not, your next device might as well be an iPhone. They're great for noobs and as long as you're ok drinking whatever punch Apple gives you, they're pretty much impossible to brick since you can't do a whole lot with them. Apple will be happy to take your money and stiff you with closed source for it.
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Same here. It took me months of researching on my vibrant before flashing my first rom (bionix 1.6 by teamwhiskey). As I progressed, I did brick left and right but I always managed to bring it back to life with my prior knowledge. Now I'm eagerly waiting for my computer to be done downloading the root files and get started.
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Cr vibe said:
Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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Omg I LOVED THE VIBRANT! Restoring it from a brick was a piece of cake
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Cr vibe said:
Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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+++++++1 on that.... DAMN talk about headaches....
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Yea, not cool dude..remember that WE were all NOOBS at some point in time, therefore we should support and help one another. As for what to do next, follow "Saldebot's" instructions and you should be fine. Sounds like it's only a soft brick. Just keep reading and learning as much as you can bud.
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Yeah one of the only other IMPORTANT thinks i could add would be always do a factory reset before flashing roms.. some people like to flash "dirty" i wouldnt recommend it cause you will ALWAYS have issues maybe not in a hour but guaranteed you will... but knowledge is power dude.. i two read for about 36 hours before rooting my phone.. i rooted my wifes phone days after a rooted mine back in the day it only took like 15 mins.. another thing let phone sit 10 mins before ya play with it... gotta let the cache settle... the ten min wait is well worth it.. ive been doing it that way since the vibrant bro.. happy flashing and welcome..
I read constantly things change hourly like when that new leaked kernels came out for sgs2 and the emmc was trashed never to come back from a brick again. To anyone that cares if you love your phone read more than just the root and flash stuff learn what makes your phone tick from the factory hardware software and added crap from your carrier it all play's a part in the end result. Its as easy as you make it.
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Omg I LOVED THE VIBRANT! Restoring it from a brick was a piece of cake
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Ive passed down two vibrants (both rooted) to my sons so they can learn to flash roms and everything else that comes from the joys of root.
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Well i recently recieved an upgrade with my provider and I opted for the M9. This is because for the last 4 years ive had samsung and although I havent a bad word to say for them, I just fancied a change. So here I am.
Quite a difference in the way you can obtain certain things like unlocking, rooting etc. To be honest, though it was a bit worrying at first, I soon managed to get things done and It sort of makes you feel like you're more involved with your phone. Rather than just letting a .zip do all the work or a full firmware file through odin do the business.
Ive only had it 2 days and managed to root, unlock and s-off, Flashed a new firmware and rom and very happy with it. I have noticed despite the camera being a higher pixel count it isnt quite as sharp as the samsung camera, still good though. The front camera is definately better.
Having only had it 2 days though i cant really comment on performance etc etc. I need it longer but i'm relatively happy with how its going.
I do have a couple of concerns. 1 being the temperature it reaches when flashing etc.My samsung used to feel very warm but obviously its more noticable with the HTC due to it being all metal and I guess thats good as it sucks all the heat into the shell and away from the cpu's.
Anyway, this was just to say hi, and that I hope to continue to enjoy my htc experience, its definately come on a lot since my last HTC many years ago (Wildfire S).
Any tips / tricks / must haves that I should know about?
Thanks and HI! =)
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Well i recently recieved an upgrade with my provider and I opted for the M9. This is because for the last 4 years ive had samsung and although I havent a bad word to say for them, I just fancied a change. So here I am.
Quite a difference in the way you can obtain certain things like unlocking, rooting etc. To be honest, though it was a bit worrying at first, I soon managed to get things done and It sort of makes you feel like you're more involved with your phone. Rather than just letting a .zip do all the work or a full firmware file through odin do the business.
Ive only had it 2 days and managed to root, unlock and s-off, Flashed a new firmware and rom and very happy with it. I have noticed despite the camera being a higher pixel count it isnt quite as sharp as the samsung camera, still good though. The front camera is definately better.
Having only had it 2 days though i cant really comment on performance etc etc. I need it longer but i'm relatively happy with how its going.
I do have a couple of concerns. 1 being the temperature it reaches when flashing etc.My samsung used to feel very warm but obviously its more noticable with the HTC due to it being all metal and I guess thats good as it sucks all the heat into the shell and away from the cpu's.
Anyway, this was just to say hi, and that I hope to continue to enjoy my htc experience, its definately come on a lot since my last HTC many years ago (Wildfire S).
Any tips / tricks / must haves that I should know about?
Thanks and HI! =)
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Hello. Welcome. I hope you enjoy your M9 experience.
Yeah, they heat up a little bit when flashing, but I think you're assumption on the metal body is correct.
I think the camera is not awesome in lower light situations. outside, it's fantastic. There's a thread on the camera in this forum you should check out, but some people who have used both the S6 and M9 say that the S6 is better in low light situations, but the M9 is better outside. You can probably get some tips in that that thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/pictures-m9-t3044267). A lot of people like shooting in manual mode with this phone and can produce some pretty nice results.
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Hello. Welcome. I hope you enjoy your M9 experience.
Yeah, they heat up a little bit when flashing, but I think you're assumption on the metal body is correct.
I think the camera is not awesome in lower light situations. outside, it's fantastic. There's a thread on the camera in this forum you should check out, but some people who have used both the S6 and M9 say that the S6 is better in low light situations, but the M9 is better outside. You can probably get some tips in that that thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/pictures-m9-t3044267). A lot of people like shooting in manual mode with this phone and can produce some pretty nice results.
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Excellent thank you. I'll take a look and see if I can get any tips for improving my pictures. When I was in store chosing my next phone they did mention that it isn't the best in low light, probably due to the smaller aperture but I use take most of my pictures outside or in decent lighting anyway so I suppose it's not an issue as such. I'll definately have a look at that thread though and see if using manual mode will help me out more.
Thanks.
edit - I do have a quick question about firmwares. I have just flashed the 1.40.401.x but also noticed their are some 2.xx.xx something. Which are newer and why the huge difference? lol sorry to ask what is probably a very nooby question.
tomorio said:
Excellent thank you. I'll take a look and see if I can get any tips for improving my pictures. When I was in store chosing my next phone they did mention that it isn't the best in low light, probably due to the smaller aperture but I use take most of my pictures outside or in decent lighting anyway so I suppose it's not an issue as such. I'll definately have a look at that thread though and see if using manual mode will help me out more.
Thanks.
edit - I do have a quick question about firmwares. I have just flashed the 1.40.401.x but also noticed their are some 2.xx.xx something. Which are newer and why the huge difference? lol sorry to ask what is probably a very nooby question.
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I find it takes pretty decent still life photos in low light, but not great snapshots of people/pets (things that move). I think on auto, the camera isn't aggressive enough in bumping ISO, so it has to use too slow a shutter speed to completely stop movement.
I think 1.40 was kind of a temporary release to quickly address some issues in 1.32 (camera and CPU management mostly)...I don't think it was ever officially released in the US. But 1.40 has issue of it's own, mainly that charging the phone can be extremely slow at times. I don't know how HTC comes up with firmware numbering, but I would guess that part of the big number jump has to do with the fact that 1.xx firmware was for Android 5.0.2 while the 2.7 firmware runs on Android 5.1. I flashed the 2.7 firmware last night and the 1.40 base rom that I use works fine with it so far...I can't say with certainty that your ROM will work with it though. FYI, I'm on InsertCoin.
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I find it takes pretty decent still life photos in low light, but not great snapshots of people/pets (things that move). I think on auto, the camera isn't aggressive enough in bumping ISO, so it has to use too slow a shutter speed to completely stop movement.
I think 1.40 was kind of a temporary release to quickly address some issues in 1.32 (camera and CPU management mostly)...I don't think it was ever officially released in the US. But 1.40 has issue of it's own, mainly that charging the phone can be extremely slow at times. I don't know how HTC comes up with firmware numbering, but I would guess that part of the big number jump has to do with the fact that 1.xx firmware was for Android 5.0.2 while the 2.7 firmware runs on Android 5.1. I flashed the 2.7 firmware last night and the 1.40 base rom that I use works fine with it so far...I can't say with certainty that your ROM will work with it though. FYI, I'm on InsertCoin.
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Ah I see. I just noticed that most of the roms out at the moment recommend using the 1.40 firmware which is why I flashed that one. I'm currently using Viper which seems good so far, only had it a day. As I was new to everything I thought it best to stick with what is suggested as unlike with my Galaxy s4 the flashing of firmwares and roms seems quite specific. I had noticed it is quite a slow charge process, but I tend to charge overnight if I can and make the phone last the full day so it's not that much of a downer, unless i've had a lot of usage and need a "quick boost" >< then its not so great lol
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Ah I see. I just noticed that most of the roms out at the moment recommend using the 1.40 firmware which is why I flashed that one. I'm currently using Viper which seems good so far, only had it a day. As I was new to everything I thought it best to stick with what is suggested as unlike with my Galaxy s4 the flashing of firmwares and roms seems quite specific. I had noticed it is quite a slow charge process, but I tend to charge overnight if I can and make the phone last the full day so it's not that much of a downer, unless i've had a lot of usage and need a "quick boost" >< then its not so great lol
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Many people have reported that rebooting temporarily fixes the slow charge issue.
MaximusHD is the only rom that uses the new firmware currently. I bet others will be updating soon. The Viper guys have been chatting about Viper 3.0 being released soon and I assume it will be 5.1 based.
Thats good. I'll keep checking any updates and see what happens.
I can't wait for a few more roms to be up and about. I'm used to the countless available for the S4 and forget that device is 2 years old now so there was plenty of time to get things going. I shall just have to be patient.
Thanks for all the help mate.
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Thats good. I'll keep checking any updates and see what happens.
I can't wait for a few more roms to be up and about. I'm used to the countless available for the S4 and forget that device is 2 years old now so there was plenty of time to get things going. I shall just have to be patient.
Thanks for all the help mate.
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Not a problem. Enjoy the device.
Not to hijack your thread tomorio, but how did you decide on which phone? I have the Galaxy S5 now, but I'm torn between HTC M8, M9, or LG G4. Pros and cons to all. My biggest thing is ease of root as I have a couple of frequent use apps that require it. Thanks in advance for any tips on how you decided!
~Vol
Vol4Ever said:
Not to hijack your thread tomorio, but how did you decide on which phone? I have the Galaxy S5 now, but I'm torn between HTC M8, M9, or LG G4. Pros and cons to all. My biggest thing is ease of root as I have a couple of frequent use apps that require it. Thanks in advance for any tips on how you decided!
~Vol
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Hijack away my friend.
I too was torn but between the S6, LG G4 and htc m9. I was leaning away from the S6 as I really fancied a change, however I think it will always have more options available to it (for custom roms etc) due to the larger fan base and it is much simpler to get to grips with for rooting etc.
the G4 my Partner already has and something about it when I used it I just didn't enjoy, and its nowhere near as pretty as the M9 lol. Try one out if you can just to see for yourself. Unfortunately I have no more experience of it than having a little play of her phone so unsure on the rooting processes etc but imagine it to be similar to the Samsung way.
The HTC M9 was a tough choice. Especially when I looked at how rooting etc is done (this is one of the first things i check with phones flash-a-holic you see lol). Anyway, once i'd read over all the advice given in this forum, the how to's etc and got a small amount of knowledge of the process of rooting using fastboot etc i pushed myself to make the choice. As far as user friendly goes, I think for simpler flashing the Sammy will always win again, as it's processes are far simpler (flashing via odin etc and all the files being ready to flash straight off the bat). However if you're keen for a change then I would recommend the M9. I've only had it a few days really but already i'm glad I did.
Just be sure to look through all the ways of rooting so that you get a better understanding of how its done. I think once the initial unlocking bootloader, rooting and flashing custom recovery is done it;s pretty simple after that. I've got to grips with it already.
One of the main benefits I found with the sammy phones was I was never worried about bricking because there were many different ways to get it back up and running. I dont know how that fares with the M9 but as long as you follow the instructions step by step and have backups available you should be ok.
Sorry for the wall of text, if you need anything else let me know.
Hope that helps.
- edit- also i may have touched on it in a previous post, but i think as far as customizing your phone goes and making it your own, I feel that HTC as a company are much more in tune with "our world" of people who like to change the stock features and put their own touch on things.
Walls of text don't bother me. I'd rather have too much information than not enough. It's going to be the M9 if we can work out the AT&T issues I mentioned in my other thread. I went to the store last night expecting a simple transaction like the bazillion other phone upgrades I've done over the years. Walked out steaming, to say the least. The worst part was the lady helping me majorly projected a "couldn't care less" attitude that is a major pet peeve of mine!
I'm getting ready to upgrade from my beloved Galaxy S4. I'm considering the One M9 and would love to hear opinions from current owners.
I saw another thread titled similarly, but that person didn't mention some of my chief concerns.
My biggest concern is I MUST have a rooted phone. The S4 was a bit of a pain because it was locked down so much, but the amazing people here on XDA always came through and eventually worked up root methods that idiots like me can follow. Other than the root issue, I have loved the S4.
My phone before the S4 was an HTC Incredible, which was awesome. And with a Verizon recently locking up the S6 with updates to block rooting, I thought HTC might be my ticket once again. Then when I came here to do some research, it seems Verizon has similarly locked down the One M9.
So how difficult is it to root the M9?
I saw something about sending the phone off to a gentleman who could unlock the bootloader. That would be an option for me since I don't have to have the phone immediately. If I do that, does that solve the root difficulty permanently?
On top of all that, how is the One M9 as a phone? Is Sense still similar to previous versions, etc.?
I'd love to read your thoughts!
Buckhunter206 said:
I'm getting ready to upgrade from my beloved Galaxy S4. I'm considering the One M9 and would love to hear opinions from current owners.
I saw another thread titled similarly, but that person didn't mention some of my chief concerns.
My biggest concern is I MUST have a rooted phone. The S4 was a bit of a pain because it was locked down so much, but the amazing people here on XDA always came through and eventually worked up root methods that idiots like me can follow. Other than the root issue, I have loved the S4.
My phone before the S4 was an HTC Incredible, which was awesome. And with a Verizon recently locking up the S6 with updates to block rooting, I thought HTC might be my ticket once again. Then when I came here to do some research, it seems Verizon has similarly locked down the One M9.
So how difficult is it to root the M9?
I saw something about sending the phone off to a gentleman who could unlock the bootloader. That would be an option for me since I don't have to have the phone immediately. If I do that, does that solve the root difficulty permanently?
On top of all that, how is the One M9 as a phone? Is Sense still similar to previous versions, etc.?
I'd love to read your thoughts!
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Well, first of all, this question has been asked several times here and there are a handful of responsive threads that answer some of your questions.
1. It's very easy to root the M9, if you have access to one of the individuals in the java card thread. I drove a few miles west on the PA turnpike to hook-up with @dottat after acquiring my M9 and had a rooted, bootloader-unlocked handset within minutes of our meet-up. I had someone else waiting in the wings for me to mail it to him, but this was more convenient. If you aren't near anyone on that thread's map, you'll have to send the handset out. Yes, that's harder than the "gool ol' days" with many of the exploits available on xda and elsewhere, but that's life now.
2. As a phone it's great. If you happen to get another call from someone else with advance calling it is to telephone audio what FM is to AM.
3. The camera is very good. No OIS, but with 21 megapixels, it's pretty darn good. The front facing camera, an ultrapixel camera, is excellent for selfies, if you're into that sort of thing (I'm most assuredly not).
4. The processing speed is very quick with the multi-core processor.
5. Sense 7 is much more unobtrusive than prior Sense versions. I like it very much. I had even flashed a Sense 7 ROM on my M8 because I preferred it to Sense 6.
6. The device can get hot, especially in a sunlit care when dashboard mounted with BT audio and GPS in use. Very hot. The solution is run it naked and on a charger, otherwise your battery will die before you arrive anywhere. Overheating is less prevalent out of sunlight.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks for the great feedback! I didn't know about the heat issue.
Here's another question: I use my phone at LOT for tethering. I keep it plugged in because the battery drain is so intense while doing so, but if the screen is on for any amount of time even the S4 gets HOT to the point of shutting down.
I'm not saying that's a flaw in the phone ... that's a lot of computing/work for such a small device, but ... do you think the M9 would be unworkable for my intense tethering?
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Thanks for the great feedback! I didn't know about the heat issue.
Here's another question: I use my phone at LOT for tethering. I keep it plugged in because the battery drain is so intense while doing so, but if the screen is on for any amount of time even the S4 gets HOT to the point of shutting down.
I'm not saying that's a flaw in the phone ... that's a lot of computing/work for such a small device, but ... do you think the M9 would be unworkable for my intense tethering?
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I don't think tethering alone would do. Direct sunshine and GPS seem to be the main drivers
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The heat is a luck of the draw thing too. My phone is caseless mounted to the dash and charging any time I'm driving. At a minimum it is playing music and has the GPS active. A lot of times it is running waze/google maps or Ingress. While it will get hot to the touch, I have never seen the actual overheat warning. I think the highest I've seen is ~118°F battery temp. I don't usually check the CPU temp.
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Thanks again for the feedback, guys. I went ahead and ordered an M9 last night.
Will be sending it off to get bootloader unlocked as soon as it arrives.
Don't know what I'd do without XDA!