Hi Guys
I have had my Wildfire for 2 years and is now out of contract / warranty etc so I thought I'd like to play with it.
It has never had any updates (still running 2.1), nor any mods of any sort.
So my questions, (as it is not clear to me from searching)
1 - Can I get Gingerbread on?
2 - What programme do I use to flash phone?
3 - Do I need S Off first?
4 - Can I keep HTC Sense?
5 - Any pitfalls to look out for?
Thanks for help in this and sorry if I missed a good thread already (I did search, honestly, but sometimes difficult if you don't know what to search for?)
u jst go through this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
if dis doesn't help then u jst hav search for the right rooting method of 2.1 in development section...
PSL184 said:
Hi Guys
I have had my Wildfire for 2 years and is now out of contract / warranty etc so I thought I'd like to play with it.
It has never had any updates (still running 2.1), nor any mods of any sort.
So my questions, (as it is not clear to me from searching)
1 - Can I get Gingerbread on?
2 - What programme do I use to flash phone?
3 - Do I need S Off first?
4 - Can I keep HTC Sense?
5 - Any pitfalls to look out for?
Thanks for help in this and sorry if I missed a good thread already (I did search, honestly, but sometimes difficult if you don't know what to search for?)
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1.you can get gingerbread with CM7.2 Rom
2.Clockwork Recovery, Revonutionary, Unrevoked
3.Yes you must do to root it
4.No u Cant or u must install some multi boot app
5.You can get ur phone bricked
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PSL184 said:
Hi Guys
I have had my Wildfire for 2 years and is now out of contract / warranty etc so I thought I'd like to play with it.
It has never had any updates (still running 2.1), nor any mods of any sort.
So my questions, (as it is not clear to me from searching)
1 - Can I get Gingerbread on?
2 - What programme do I use to flash phone?
3 - Do I need S Off first?
4 - Can I keep HTC Sense?
5 - Any pitfalls to look out for?
Thanks for help in this and sorry if I missed a good thread already (I did search, honestly, but sometimes difficult if you don't know what to search for?)
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Seems really a good time to make your phone your own (that's exactly what you could do with root and s-off).
Root = you could access all files on your phone
s-off = "security off" means you'll have the right to write in system (that's necessary for a lot of those really cool things...)
Your questions:
1: definitely yes - plus: you could even get ICS yet (with some little issues but works)
2: you need a bit more rather than one single programme
3: see above
4: yes and no as if you like to keep sense if I'm not mistaken (no sense fan here) you'll be bound to froyo
5: are you kidding? if you're driving @90mph on a highway and close your eyes... it's just like that: s-off (see above) means what it says: "security off" - so you'll have to be a bit more careful what you do (sometimes more than a bit lol)
I suggest to have some good reads - and to ask your (remaining) questions until you know what you're going to do.
Best place to start could be one of the two threads in "General":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1365159
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1145035
And really: it doesn't hurt to read the OP and at least the last 2 or 3 pages to understand a bit more
But why do you want to have CyanogenMod as your first custom rom if you don't know anything about rootig? (i'm not offend you, just asking). IMO better way for you would be to only root your phone or install custom stock rom (f.e RemPuzzle) to get to know with it
drewniany92 said:
But why do you want to have CyanogenMod as your first custom rom if you don't know anything about rootig? (i'm not offend you, just asking). IMO better way for you would be to only root your phone or install custom stock rom (f.e RemPuzzle) to get to know with it
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uh - can't see that he was talking about CM anyway... But even if this was the case: CM7 should be the most stable, best supported and most uncomplicated custom ROM and a very good point to start at. But if wants to stick with sense this makes no sense anyway (pun intended lol)
drewniany92 said:
But why do you want to have CyanogenMod as your first custom rom if you don't know anything about rootig? (i'm not offend you, just asking). IMO better way for you would be to only root your phone or install custom stock rom (f.e RemPuzzle) to get to know with it
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I agree with you: my first steps were S-OFF, unlock bootloader and rooting with Revolutionary, and Nandroid backup.
Then I started playing with apps for root phones, flashed the RemPuzzle kernel for overclocking always with the stock ROM.
During that time I experienced Nandroid backup and restore and when I was quite familiar with these procedures, I decided to try a different ROM...
ok then (; so you should know that cm is more complicated with set it to perfect work (; if you know anything about it give a try and you'll see how much you have learned (;
Taptapped from my little killer iPod 4G (;
drewniany92 said:
ok then (; so you should know that cm is more complicated with set it to perfect work (; if you know anything about it give a try and you'll see how much you have learned (;
Taptapped from my little killer iPod 4G (;
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Um, I'm not sure about that and I believe everyone's mileage may vary (widely). I don't think that it's complicated or even hard to configure CM7. If I wouldn't know anything about it your suggestion would sound to me like: "hey hold on - that's the very experimental pro stuff"... (and CM7 to me is exactly the opposite of that)
Even more important: CM7 is the ROM with the best support as it's the most used custom ROM
Also, from my experience people root their phones to do exactly that: customizing.
Using the stock ROM probably might lead you to continue using the phone like before. No idea if this really helps (besides the people who indeed just want the stock ROM and nothing else).
But I'm probably misled here as I directly started off with CM7 without knowing any flyspot of rooting and custom ROMs
and this is all fun with it (; installing new roms and trying to find best way to configure it to best working (; but i think that there is much more work with configuration cm 7 than rem puzzle for example (;
Taptapped from my little killer iPod 4G (;
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Hello folx..
Im using Desire HD for a while and wanted to ask you:
What is the diffrence between stock rom and custom roms ? What do i get if i put custom rom on my desire hd ? I have to root it i know that. But is it worth to put custom rom?
Thanks alot in advance for responses..
as i can see in your signature, why have you modde your HD2? the same reason to not be controlled by anyone to what you do with something that you own, to be free of bloatware that the companys want sell you. that is why i keep mine as plain as possible.
Laynee1 said:
Hello folx..
Im using Desire HD for a while and wanted to ask you:
What is the diffrence between stock rom and custom roms ? What do i get if i put custom rom on my desire hd ? I have to root it i know that. But is it worth to put custom rom?
Thanks alot in advance for responses..
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mariosraptor said:
as i can see in your signature, why have you modde your HD2? the same reason to not be controlled by anyone to what you do with something that you own, to be free of bloatware that the companys want sell you. that is why i keep mine as plain as possible.
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Yes, i modded my HD2, because it has Wm stock on it, and i wanted android.. But i still cant see right bemefits of custom android roms for DHD.. Maybe im not reading much...
Briefly - Most custom ROMs are better optimized for speed, smoothness, battery life, user customization, extra settings etc. Not only that but most bugs are fixed before HTC would ever get round to it.
Do it, you wont look back
But , if i root my phone, i loose warranty ? Is there any chance i could "unroot" my phone ( revert to process of rooting, so i can keep my warranty for any case..) ?
If it's anything like the Hero (which I'm sure it is), then flashing an official HTC RUU ROM will remove root.
Best to check in the DHD development section though, there's a FAQ there
EDIT: As always, it's best to do as much of your own research and reading as you can before trying anything new, but here's a link to a thread about removing root etc: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9985360#post9985360
I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]
As i am new at these things too, i will try to answer some of your questions.
1. Cyanogenmod is based on AOST source, which is main android source, while Revolution, LeeDrOID and rest are based on HTC source.
2. To be able to flash cooked ROM your Desire HD needs to be rooted.
Full step-by-step guide is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11557769
3. Themes for one ROM might work on other, but are not recommended.
4. Check the guide in point 2.
5. Same as above.
6. I think you got that right.
I hope i helped you a bit.Cheers
glenvarun said:
I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]
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Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also. You should probably ask the mod developer if his mod is compatable with another ROM, but I think CM7 being Gingerbread and ARHD3.2 being Froyo, the chances are slim. S-OFF is "Security OFF". HTC introduced a level of security which was supposed to make the system "read only" for anyone but them to prevent custom ROMs, kernels and ultimately - overclocking, which potentialy can damage your device. Luckily thy didn't do a good job on that, so the developers found a workaround. Flashing is writing a new ROM, kernel or a set of system files in your phone. And lastly, you are correct about the sense/non-sense stuff.
You can find good guides in the developement section about rooting, S-OFF (both radio and eng), flashing ROMs, etc. Bear in mind though that if your software version is 1.72, you'll have to downgrade first to get to the rootable 1.32
First of all thanks for the help.
I suppose flash means to install. Also the guide you gave me tells how to put s-off but i wanted to know what does s-off mean??
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@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Custom Roms are there to help and inprove the things...
Overclocking is running an hardware to something which it was not designed for...So it could harm the phone (Does not mean that it always does, there are guys who are running the overclock phone without problem).
Custom Roms are just the installed ROM so if you flash one rom and don't like it replace it with another one..before flashing read the instruction and flash (I was only able to run official rom for 2 hours, after that I rooted and installed CM7...
@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?
Yes you can revert your handset back to complete factory settings by running a suitable RUU (Rom Update Utility).
This will restore everything, except Radio S-OFF, back to HTC defaults. You could then send your handset away to be repaired, etc...
glenvarun said:
@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?
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Rom depends on your choice, Revolution is based on HTC framework (sense and no-sense both available), 3.2 is froyo based, 4.X is gingerbread but its in beta..YOu will get the stock applications like video player, camera etc..
CM7 is also under development, RC2 is stable version, It is based on AOSP GingerBread...has a lot of modifications....I use this one....Just my preferance...
You can try both and see which one you like...
About warrenty, yes, you need to restore the RUU to claim it, but there are enough thread around which will tell you how to do that...
The only thing is I haven't seen the RUU for India, there is one for Asia and version number is close so that can work...in case it is required, or...before flashing custom rom create a backup for your official rom and save that backup...so that you can use that to come back to official rom...
Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .
tkolev said:
Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also.
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Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)
glenvarun said:
Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .
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Some people have had trouble with the gps lock on CM7, not all, as I for one haven't got any problems with neither of the RCs nor the nightlys. I'm running nightly build 20 atm. And there is a fix for the gps included in the latest two nightlys so it's not a problem anymore.
just read a lot man, all informations you want is spread out there! in beggining this thread helps a lot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248
hope it can help! =o)
glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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No, overclocking to a reasonable extend should not harm your phone. I'm running an overclocked kernel (1.2 GHz) and it has no negative effect on my phone. In the manufacturing process there are deviations from the design and Qualcomm has rated the processor which is in our DHDs to 1GHz. This means that most processors can safely handle higher frequencies, but the higher they rate their production, more units will have to be scrapped. I think it's quite safe to go for 1.2 or even 1.5 (if you really need it and monitor the teperature closely) but I would never run on 1.8 GHz. I just wanted to explain why HTC decided to go for locked internal memory. There is a reason for that, not just because they are mean control freaks... oh wait those were Apple .
BigMrB said:
Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)
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I didn't know that you can install a custom recovery without S-OFF. Or a custom ROM without a custom recovery. Anyway there are many users which followed the guide in the developement section (including me) and did just fine (thanks to the great tools made by jkoljo and all the help we get in this great forum). Ultimately is anyone's decision what to do with his/her own phone.
I'm gonna s-off this weekend after I've fixed my custom recovery
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Guess u guys are confusing between Radio S-Off and Eng-S-OFF.
You can't install a custom recovery without Eng-SOFF, hence u can't install custom Roms.
There is a one click S-Off for Eng-Soff & Radio S-OFf which u can find in Dev Section.
This should do the work quickly and in a painless way...
Personally i would recommend to go for MIUI or CM7...
All your questions have been answered clearly.
Just one warning regarding the warranty. It's possible to revert to stock EXCEPT if one hard key is needed and it doesn't work.
If on DHD all can be done via adb then it's ok (never checked).
I'm just coming from HD2 and without vol- key you were fu**ed (can't launch the bootloader but OS bootable).
Anyway never stopped me to install custom roms the first day
Hello all,
I like many others, I have installed the new GB ROM from the RUU supplied by HTC and it is "OK". However, i would like something else.
I have seen many guide to install ROMS and it seems more or less clear.
My problem, and maybe the problem for other noobs if the fact that there are so many ROMs out there. It is difficult to know which one to take.
For example, I am looking for plain old stock android 2.3 for the desire. No sense, no extra HTC apps. Just what google would have on the nexus 1. But, I cant figure out which ROM fits that.
Any ideas?
What would be great is sticky which lists the ROMs and their main features for all us noobs. Unless there is one already and I didnt see it
Get Oxygen Rom mate its nice and basic , if u want to go too basic get DevNull
But for starters i think u shud go with oxygen
Pm me if u want to discuss any other details
pablo_max said:
I have installed the new GB ROM from the RUU supplied by HTC and it is "OK". However, i would like something else.
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Well, if you installed official Gingerbread 3.14.405.1 RUU, you can't get root (yet). No root means that you can't install custom rom.
pablo_max said:
What would be great is sticky which lists the ROMs and their main features for all us noobs. Unless there is one already and I didnt see it
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Isn't there one already?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
Sent from my HTC Original Desire using Tapatalk
watch the video tutorial too - but it sounds like you want an AOSP rom
Yup, you definitely wanna try Oxygen + it was recently updated to Android 2.3.5.
It's sense free, all bloatware removed, very fast & minimalistic.
http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=149 (it wasn't updated on XDA yet, but you can download it from there)
CyanogenMod7 will also fit you.
Should have read into what you were doing before you updated. You can't root now, which means no custom ROMs for you. HTC updated HBOOT so no more rooting for the time being. You're stuck with it till someone cracks it. Unlucky dude.
My recommendation:
Sense (2.1+3.0) : InsertCoin 1.0.9
AOSP: Oxygen
no MIUI from me...sorry..
Thanks for all the replies. I am pretty sure it is only a matter of days or weeks at most until I can root. I recall the same situation last update.
It sounds like oxygen is the way to go. Once the root is available I will give it a shot. Thanks.
hi, im just a fresh unlocked/rooted user and i would like to install a rom (which also upgrade my wfs processor) i found stock sense 2.3.5 and cm 7.2 are highly recommended. i guess i need to install one of those, so i can enjoy my unlocked phone 100%
is there any step by step tutorial for these? i used search and i really didnt find what could help me.
(this threat seems good, but the 2. steps are a bit stranger for me. maybe some pictures could help or dunno)
if it was the no. 10000000 question like this, than pls ignor this and dont be mad for me . i really read all day long for this, but couldnt reach my goal
szuladam said:
hi, im just a fresh unlocked/rooted user and i would like to install a rom (which also upgrade my wfs processor) i found stock sense 2.3.5 and cm 7.2 are highly recommended. i guess i need to install one of those, so i can enjoy my unlocked phone 100%
is there any step by step tutorial for these? i used search and i really didnt find what could help me.
(this threat seems good, but the 2. steps are a bit stranger for me. maybe some pictures could help or dunno)
if it was the no. 10000000 question like this, than pls ignor this and dont be mad for me . i really read all day long for this, but couldnt reach my goal
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Do a nandroid backup first for heaven's sake!
d33ps1x said:
for heaven's sake!
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and ours as well
I know this is a pretty old thread, but I couldn't find any other thread which had any answer.
Does anyone have a step by step guide to CM 7.2?
I'm a noob and don't want to make any mistake. I have done a nandroid backup so I'm good to go.
Hey Guys, i´m coming from the desire z and got few small questions.
1. someone told me there´s no need to root the device, is that right or not?
2. do i need a kind of dev-bootloader?
3. which recovery is the best? / does the ext4 recovery exist for the nexus? really liked to work with it
4. got o2(germany), is there any recommended radio?
5. are there big differences between the roms? which one would u take? i personally would take cm9, because i used cm7 on my desire z, but e.g. android revolution got a lot of clicks, why do so many people prefere it?
for the moment, these are the questions that are in my mind, think in 2 days it´s gonna arrive, just wanted to make sure everything can ben realised as fast as possible when my new phone arrives
thanks in advance
no one an idea?
L-ViZ said:
Hey Guys, i´m coming from the desire z and got few small questions.
1. someone told me there´s no need to root the device, is that right or not?
2. do i need a kind of dev-bootloader?
3. which recovery is the best? / does the ext4 recovery exist for the nexus? really liked to work with it
4. got o2(germany), is there any recommended radio?
5. are there big differences between the roms? which one would u take? i personally would take cm9, because i used cm7 on my desire z, but e.g. android revolution got a lot of clicks, why do so many people prefere it?
for the moment, these are the questions that are in my mind, think in 2 days it´s gonna arrive, just wanted to make sure everything can ben realised as fast as possible when my new phone arrives
thanks in advance
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1. There are definite benefits to unlocking the bootloader and rooting. And if you ever had to, you can go back to stock. The great thing about the Galaxy Nexus is how very hard it is to truly brick, but dont try
2. No, unlocking the bootloader is actually pretty simple. You will need Android SDK and the drivers installed on your computer
3. I prefer Clockwork Mod Recovery. Because its the most popular, it is also what most instructions are for
4. You will just have to read through some of the GSM radio threads. Updating to 4.0.4 is probably all you need though.
5. Yes there are difference between ROMS. I am currently using AOKP Milestone 4. CM9 is certainly great with a lot of feature. ARHD is more to the stock feel. Its not going to have as many feature as AOKP, CM9, or Gummy, but it is a very smooth ROM. Honestly it just comes down to what you like in the feature list.
If you have any questions on how to do any of this there are detailed, near fool-proof, instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442184
L-ViZ said:
1. someone told me there´s no need to root the device, is that right or not?
2. do i need a kind of dev-bootloader?
3. which recovery is the best? / does the ext4 recovery exist for the nexus? really liked to work with it
4. got o2(germany), is there any recommended radio?
5. are there big differences between the roms? which one would u take? i personally would take cm9, because i used cm7 on my desire z, but e.g. android revolution got a lot of clicks, why do so many people prefere it?
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Guude
1) Depends on what you wanna do with the phone. Mine is rooted
2) Not really
3) I would use CWM. Works perfect and is very popular
4) I always used the radio coming with the installaled Rom. And had no problems at all.
5) At the moment i use Gummy Rom. Tried Cm9 a few nightlies ago, but actually i like gummy more. Still some bugs (camera doesn`t work properly, but 3rd party cam apps do so i don`t care) and the battery life is great. Overall performance is also very good.
thank you for your answeres gonna check the roms