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[Q] [Help]My Desire Hd Can't root by visionary+

I bought a Desire HD from H.K. The rom is RUU_Ace_HTC_Asia_WWE_1.32.707.6.
I tried to cook the rom become Taiwanese rom step by step.
Using visionary to temproot ===>prmeroot===> s-off
Everything is fine.
However,I cook the wrong rom RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3.
I think it becomes UK rom.
Now, I want to do the same step to cook my DHD to be Taiwanese rom again but it doesn't work.
When I use Visionary to do temproot, it takes too long time.
The screen comes black and hard to use.
I did't Visionary several times, however it still doesn't work.
Can any one help me. please.

So I guess your phone is 1.72 firmware now?
Bad luck you can't root it.

Yes, I am 1.72 now.
so, Does it mean there are no way to root now?

There are no way to root now. U must wait for the solution.

It bewilders me how people manage to read the threads on how to root their phones, but never manage with the threads that tell them not to flash the 1.72 ROM's. I fail to understand how they miss the various threads.

I can imagine what a disaster it is to overlook this.
So if they officially release the android 2.2.1 update for my region and I update to it, it will also update the software to the 1.72 ROM.
Does this mean I will not be able to root (and therefore flash) to other ROM until someone here figures out a way to break it?

daysonp said:
I can imagine what a disaster it is to overlook this.
So if they officially release the android 2.2.1 update for my region and I update to it, it will also update the software to the 1.72 ROM.
Does this mean I will not be able to root (and therefore flash) to other ROM until someone here figures out a way to break it?
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When it comes do not install it. Better to use a custom rom which is based off of it. Such as the one in my sig. Then you get the best of both worlds - rooted Android 2.2.1.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD

liam08 said:
It bewilders me how people manage to read the threads on how to root their phones, but never manage with the threads that tell them not to flash the 1.72 ROM's. I fail to understand how they miss the various threads.
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Yep, I thank I didn't do much homework so I got my bad luck.
I just wonder if someone can help me to fix this trouble.
Maybe this is a chance to help me improve my English.
haha..

got it! but is it worth upgrading to the 2.2.1 update? Any performance gains? I'm not sure about what rom should I be on for fastest speed, stability with the sense ui?

daysonp said:
got it! but is it worth upgrading to the 2.2.1 update? Any performance gains? I'm not sure about what rom should I be on for fastest speed, stability with the sense ui?
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Difficult to say....it should have some better performance and the camera should work a bit better.
however, in my case, when recording in HD I still have some lags sometimes (although they seem to be less in both length and frequency).
As far as normal performance, I was running a OC kernel which I cannot use now anymore, so performance will not be noticeably better (might even be a bit less).
as Dr.m0x said: get a custom rom with 1.72 integrated...works fine and you keep root

Any news? Or nothing yet ? So no rooted phone for those who updated 2.2.1...

I have had rooted phone with stock ROM and when appeared some update of OS, I installed it and then I found out, that rooting no longer works I must now only wait.
Has any from cooked ROMs better camera software? The stock camera app is OK, but I am missing possibility to set JPEG compression, which is in my oppinion too high and destroyes fine details in each picture.

[email protected] said:
I have had rooted phone with stock ROM and when appeared some update of OS, I installed it and then I found out, that rooting no longer works I must now only wait.
Has any from cooked ROMs better camera software? The stock camera app is OK, but I am missing possibility to set JPEG compression, which is in my oppinion too high and destroyes fine details in each picture.
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It has been possible to downgrade your firmware and then gain root for a week now. There is a sticky topic in the development section.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.

And is there any way to backup my unrooted phone?

As far as I know there is not a way to do a full backup when the phone is unrooted. I fell for 1.72. Luckily I already did a titanium backup not long prior. The instructions given on the developers area of the forum are good though. The process does work.

[Q] Several Questions about mods etc

I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]

As i am new at these things too, i will try to answer some of your questions.
1. Cyanogenmod is based on AOST source, which is main android source, while Revolution, LeeDrOID and rest are based on HTC source.
2. To be able to flash cooked ROM your Desire HD needs to be rooted.
Full step-by-step guide is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11557769
3. Themes for one ROM might work on other, but are not recommended.
4. Check the guide in point 2.
5. Same as above.
6. I think you got that right.
I hope i helped you a bit.Cheers

glenvarun said:
I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]
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Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also. You should probably ask the mod developer if his mod is compatable with another ROM, but I think CM7 being Gingerbread and ARHD3.2 being Froyo, the chances are slim. S-OFF is "Security OFF". HTC introduced a level of security which was supposed to make the system "read only" for anyone but them to prevent custom ROMs, kernels and ultimately - overclocking, which potentialy can damage your device. Luckily thy didn't do a good job on that, so the developers found a workaround. Flashing is writing a new ROM, kernel or a set of system files in your phone. And lastly, you are correct about the sense/non-sense stuff.
You can find good guides in the developement section about rooting, S-OFF (both radio and eng), flashing ROMs, etc. Bear in mind though that if your software version is 1.72, you'll have to downgrade first to get to the rootable 1.32

First of all thanks for the help.
I suppose flash means to install. Also the guide you gave me tells how to put s-off but i wanted to know what does s-off mean??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Custom Roms are there to help and inprove the things...
Overclocking is running an hardware to something which it was not designed for...So it could harm the phone (Does not mean that it always does, there are guys who are running the overclock phone without problem).
Custom Roms are just the installed ROM so if you flash one rom and don't like it replace it with another one..before flashing read the instruction and flash (I was only able to run official rom for 2 hours, after that I rooted and installed CM7...

@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?

Yes you can revert your handset back to complete factory settings by running a suitable RUU (Rom Update Utility).
This will restore everything, except Radio S-OFF, back to HTC defaults. You could then send your handset away to be repaired, etc...

glenvarun said:
@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?
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Rom depends on your choice, Revolution is based on HTC framework (sense and no-sense both available), 3.2 is froyo based, 4.X is gingerbread but its in beta..YOu will get the stock applications like video player, camera etc..
CM7 is also under development, RC2 is stable version, It is based on AOSP GingerBread...has a lot of modifications....I use this one....Just my preferance...
You can try both and see which one you like...
About warrenty, yes, you need to restore the RUU to claim it, but there are enough thread around which will tell you how to do that...
The only thing is I haven't seen the RUU for India, there is one for Asia and version number is close so that can work...in case it is required, or...before flashing custom rom create a backup for your official rom and save that backup...so that you can use that to come back to official rom...

Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .

tkolev said:
Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also.
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Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)

glenvarun said:
Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .
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Some people have had trouble with the gps lock on CM7, not all, as I for one haven't got any problems with neither of the RCs nor the nightlys. I'm running nightly build 20 atm. And there is a fix for the gps included in the latest two nightlys so it's not a problem anymore.

just read a lot man, all informations you want is spread out there! in beggining this thread helps a lot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248
hope it can help! =o)

glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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No, overclocking to a reasonable extend should not harm your phone. I'm running an overclocked kernel (1.2 GHz) and it has no negative effect on my phone. In the manufacturing process there are deviations from the design and Qualcomm has rated the processor which is in our DHDs to 1GHz. This means that most processors can safely handle higher frequencies, but the higher they rate their production, more units will have to be scrapped. I think it's quite safe to go for 1.2 or even 1.5 (if you really need it and monitor the teperature closely) but I would never run on 1.8 GHz. I just wanted to explain why HTC decided to go for locked internal memory. There is a reason for that, not just because they are mean control freaks... oh wait those were Apple .

BigMrB said:
Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)
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I didn't know that you can install a custom recovery without S-OFF. Or a custom ROM without a custom recovery. Anyway there are many users which followed the guide in the developement section (including me) and did just fine (thanks to the great tools made by jkoljo and all the help we get in this great forum). Ultimately is anyone's decision what to do with his/her own phone.

I'm gonna s-off this weekend after I've fixed my custom recovery
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

Guess u guys are confusing between Radio S-Off and Eng-S-OFF.
You can't install a custom recovery without Eng-SOFF, hence u can't install custom Roms.
There is a one click S-Off for Eng-Soff & Radio S-OFf which u can find in Dev Section.
This should do the work quickly and in a painless way...
Personally i would recommend to go for MIUI or CM7...

All your questions have been answered clearly.
Just one warning regarding the warranty. It's possible to revert to stock EXCEPT if one hard key is needed and it doesn't work.
If on DHD all can be done via adb then it's ok (never checked).
I'm just coming from HD2 and without vol- key you were fu**ed (can't launch the bootloader but OS bootable).
Anyway never stopped me to install custom roms the first day

Guide to GB ROMS?

Hello all,
I like many others, I have installed the new GB ROM from the RUU supplied by HTC and it is "OK". However, i would like something else.
I have seen many guide to install ROMS and it seems more or less clear.
My problem, and maybe the problem for other noobs if the fact that there are so many ROMs out there. It is difficult to know which one to take.
For example, I am looking for plain old stock android 2.3 for the desire. No sense, no extra HTC apps. Just what google would have on the nexus 1. But, I cant figure out which ROM fits that.
Any ideas?
What would be great is sticky which lists the ROMs and their main features for all us noobs. Unless there is one already and I didnt see it

Get Oxygen Rom mate its nice and basic , if u want to go too basic get DevNull
But for starters i think u shud go with oxygen
Pm me if u want to discuss any other details

pablo_max said:
I have installed the new GB ROM from the RUU supplied by HTC and it is "OK". However, i would like something else.
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Well, if you installed official Gingerbread 3.14.405.1 RUU, you can't get root (yet). No root means that you can't install custom rom.

pablo_max said:
What would be great is sticky which lists the ROMs and their main features for all us noobs. Unless there is one already and I didnt see it
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Isn't there one already?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
Sent from my HTC Original Desire using Tapatalk

watch the video tutorial too - but it sounds like you want an AOSP rom

Yup, you definitely wanna try Oxygen + it was recently updated to Android 2.3.5.
It's sense free, all bloatware removed, very fast & minimalistic.
http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=149 (it wasn't updated on XDA yet, but you can download it from there)
CyanogenMod7 will also fit you.

Should have read into what you were doing before you updated. You can't root now, which means no custom ROMs for you. HTC updated HBOOT so no more rooting for the time being. You're stuck with it till someone cracks it. Unlucky dude.

My recommendation:
Sense (2.1+3.0) : InsertCoin 1.0.9
AOSP: Oxygen
no MIUI from me...sorry..

Thanks for all the replies. I am pretty sure it is only a matter of days or weeks at most until I can root. I recall the same situation last update.
It sounds like oxygen is the way to go. Once the root is available I will give it a shot. Thanks.

[Q]is it possible to root/install custom roms safely to a desire z 2.3 ota from htc?

Can i safely root/install custom roms in a desire z that was upgraded to gingerbread?
I am completely new to rooting/installing custom roms to any android phone. i held out doing so because my original plan was to wait for the 2.3 update from htc. using the official update is a nightmare. i always have lags in messaging and the sense always restarts when i go back to the home screen. can i safely root and install custom roms in my phone? can anyone point me to a very easy to follow guide to do so? thank you very much.

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dude... first of all: USE SEARCH FUNCTION!!! XDA mods have hard time maintaining the community and thousands (hundreds of) posts as is so any unnecessary posts should really be avoided.. back to thread..
Is it possible? YES! Is it safe??? No way!!!
As you can probably see in every single rooting/custom ROM flashing tutorial/guide - there's no such thing as "safe rooting/installation of custom ROM" and nobody will give you any guarantees there. ppl share their experiences but those don't necessarily relate to your (or any) other device in general.
if you mess with your phone - you must be mentally prepared for the worst, otherwise - don't do it.
there's a thread which already covers this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
also - WIKI is your friend!!! cheerz!

franciselmer said:
Can i safely root/install custom roms in a desire z that was upgraded to gingerbread?
I am completely new to rooting/installing custom roms to any android phone. i held out doing so because my original plan was to wait for the 2.3 update from htc. using the official update is a nightmare. i always have lags in messaging and the sense always restarts when i go back to the home screen. can i safely root and install custom roms in my phone? can anyone point me to a very easy to follow guide to do so? thank you very much.
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Just give the search a chance

thank you very much for your answers alcak4ever and QSchachi. i followed the link above and did it.so far im think i got it. the only problem is the download for the rom is slow.hehe. thanks again!

"Safe" is a relative term. Almost any phone modding carries some risk of damaging your device (brick, soft brick, etc.). But if you read up BEFORE you start, and follow the instructions carefully, the risk is pretty small. Just do the research, and understand the risks, and you should be fine.

franciselmer said:
thank you very much for your answers alcak4ever and QSchachi. i followed the link above and did it.so far im think i got it. the only problem is the download for the rom is slow.hehe. thanks again!
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Don't mention it. Just keep up with it. This is a nice device to mess with!

[Q] stock + custom firmware dualboot

Hello everyone!
I am planing to root my htc desire hd cause i've read lots of stunning stuff you can do when your phone is rooted.
like using the newest version of android, installing google now and so on..
But my question is, is it possible to stay with my stock firmware (and if possible stock kernel?) somehow
and use one or more custom firmwares with programs like boot manager to find one for daily use?
and what are the disadvantages of using a custom kernel? cause i've read the following, looking through your forums:
In the present case,It is hard to say which kernel is good .All unofficial kernel have the same headphone button issue,and only 5 sensors(DHD have 7 sensors).
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(i dont even know what he means with 7 sensors.. )
ps: sorry for being so noobish and thx in advance for your answers!

SuperS_92 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planing to root my htc desire hd cause i've read lots of stunning stuff you can do when your phone is rooted.
like using the newest version of android, installing google now and so on..
But my question is, is it possible to stay with my stock firmware (and if possible stock kernel?) somehow
and use one or more custom firmwares with programs like boot manager to find one for daily use?
and what are the disadvantages of using a custom kernel? cause i've read the following, looking through your forums:
(i dont even know what he means with 7 sensors.. )
ps: sorry for being so noobish and thx in advance for your answers!
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If you use AAHK (no idea about HTCDEV method) you can simply do a full image backup of your stock firmware, including your kernel (this is called a nandroid backup), after you've rooted but before you flash a custom ROM. Then, wipe and flash custom firmwares to your heart's content. If you ever want stock back, just restore that backup. I'm not aware of a dual boot manager, though.
Usually, the kernel that came with the firmware (aka ROM) is the best kernel. Devs will post about alternate kernels that are compatible with their ROMs. (Note that if you're planning to use the latest version of Android, Jelly Bean, there is a compatible alternate kernel.)
No idea about those sensors.

SuperS_92 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planing to root my htc desire hd cause i've read lots of stunning stuff you can do when your phone is rooted.
like using the newest version of android, installing google now and so on..
But my question is, is it possible to stay with my stock firmware (and if possible stock kernel?) somehow
and use one or more custom firmwares with programs like boot manager to find one for daily use?
and what are the disadvantages of using a custom kernel? cause i've read the following, looking through your forums:
(i dont even know what he means with 7 sensors.. )
ps: sorry for being so noobish and thx in advance for your answers!
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Yes u can boot multiple roms using boot manager i hv seen it work but i hvnt been able to do it myself or u can say i was less intrested to pay attention. But the answer is yes u can. Head on to the boot manager in play store it gives u all the info u need to get u phone run two or more roms at the same time.
P.S: Speaking of which i think i might give it another go again but this time with interest.
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