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[Q]Stock Roms vs Custom ones

Hello folx..
Im using Desire HD for a while and wanted to ask you:
What is the diffrence between stock rom and custom roms ? What do i get if i put custom rom on my desire hd ? I have to root it i know that. But is it worth to put custom rom?
Thanks alot in advance for responses..

as i can see in your signature, why have you modde your HD2? the same reason to not be controlled by anyone to what you do with something that you own, to be free of bloatware that the companys want sell you. that is why i keep mine as plain as possible.
Laynee1 said:
Hello folx..
Im using Desire HD for a while and wanted to ask you:
What is the diffrence between stock rom and custom roms ? What do i get if i put custom rom on my desire hd ? I have to root it i know that. But is it worth to put custom rom?
Thanks alot in advance for responses..
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mariosraptor said:
as i can see in your signature, why have you modde your HD2? the same reason to not be controlled by anyone to what you do with something that you own, to be free of bloatware that the companys want sell you. that is why i keep mine as plain as possible.
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Yes, i modded my HD2, because it has Wm stock on it, and i wanted android.. But i still cant see right bemefits of custom android roms for DHD.. Maybe im not reading much...

Briefly - Most custom ROMs are better optimized for speed, smoothness, battery life, user customization, extra settings etc. Not only that but most bugs are fixed before HTC would ever get round to it.
Do it, you wont look back

But , if i root my phone, i loose warranty ? Is there any chance i could "unroot" my phone ( revert to process of rooting, so i can keep my warranty for any case..) ?

If it's anything like the Hero (which I'm sure it is), then flashing an official HTC RUU ROM will remove root.
Best to check in the DHD development section though, there's a FAQ there
EDIT: As always, it's best to do as much of your own research and reading as you can before trying anything new, but here's a link to a thread about removing root etc: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9985360#post9985360

[Q] Several Questions about mods etc

I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]

As i am new at these things too, i will try to answer some of your questions.
1. Cyanogenmod is based on AOST source, which is main android source, while Revolution, LeeDrOID and rest are based on HTC source.
2. To be able to flash cooked ROM your Desire HD needs to be rooted.
Full step-by-step guide is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11557769
3. Themes for one ROM might work on other, but are not recommended.
4. Check the guide in point 2.
5. Same as above.
6. I think you got that right.
I hope i helped you a bit.Cheers

glenvarun said:
I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]
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Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also. You should probably ask the mod developer if his mod is compatable with another ROM, but I think CM7 being Gingerbread and ARHD3.2 being Froyo, the chances are slim. S-OFF is "Security OFF". HTC introduced a level of security which was supposed to make the system "read only" for anyone but them to prevent custom ROMs, kernels and ultimately - overclocking, which potentialy can damage your device. Luckily thy didn't do a good job on that, so the developers found a workaround. Flashing is writing a new ROM, kernel or a set of system files in your phone. And lastly, you are correct about the sense/non-sense stuff.
You can find good guides in the developement section about rooting, S-OFF (both radio and eng), flashing ROMs, etc. Bear in mind though that if your software version is 1.72, you'll have to downgrade first to get to the rootable 1.32

First of all thanks for the help.
I suppose flash means to install. Also the guide you gave me tells how to put s-off but i wanted to know what does s-off mean??
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@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
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glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Custom Roms are there to help and inprove the things...
Overclocking is running an hardware to something which it was not designed for...So it could harm the phone (Does not mean that it always does, there are guys who are running the overclock phone without problem).
Custom Roms are just the installed ROM so if you flash one rom and don't like it replace it with another one..before flashing read the instruction and flash (I was only able to run official rom for 2 hours, after that I rooted and installed CM7...

@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?

Yes you can revert your handset back to complete factory settings by running a suitable RUU (Rom Update Utility).
This will restore everything, except Radio S-OFF, back to HTC defaults. You could then send your handset away to be repaired, etc...

glenvarun said:
@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?
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Rom depends on your choice, Revolution is based on HTC framework (sense and no-sense both available), 3.2 is froyo based, 4.X is gingerbread but its in beta..YOu will get the stock applications like video player, camera etc..
CM7 is also under development, RC2 is stable version, It is based on AOSP GingerBread...has a lot of modifications....I use this one....Just my preferance...
You can try both and see which one you like...
About warrenty, yes, you need to restore the RUU to claim it, but there are enough thread around which will tell you how to do that...
The only thing is I haven't seen the RUU for India, there is one for Asia and version number is close so that can work...in case it is required, or...before flashing custom rom create a backup for your official rom and save that backup...so that you can use that to come back to official rom...

Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .

tkolev said:
Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also.
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Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)

glenvarun said:
Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .
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Some people have had trouble with the gps lock on CM7, not all, as I for one haven't got any problems with neither of the RCs nor the nightlys. I'm running nightly build 20 atm. And there is a fix for the gps included in the latest two nightlys so it's not a problem anymore.

just read a lot man, all informations you want is spread out there! in beggining this thread helps a lot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248
hope it can help! =o)

glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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No, overclocking to a reasonable extend should not harm your phone. I'm running an overclocked kernel (1.2 GHz) and it has no negative effect on my phone. In the manufacturing process there are deviations from the design and Qualcomm has rated the processor which is in our DHDs to 1GHz. This means that most processors can safely handle higher frequencies, but the higher they rate their production, more units will have to be scrapped. I think it's quite safe to go for 1.2 or even 1.5 (if you really need it and monitor the teperature closely) but I would never run on 1.8 GHz. I just wanted to explain why HTC decided to go for locked internal memory. There is a reason for that, not just because they are mean control freaks... oh wait those were Apple .

BigMrB said:
Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)
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I didn't know that you can install a custom recovery without S-OFF. Or a custom ROM without a custom recovery. Anyway there are many users which followed the guide in the developement section (including me) and did just fine (thanks to the great tools made by jkoljo and all the help we get in this great forum). Ultimately is anyone's decision what to do with his/her own phone.

I'm gonna s-off this weekend after I've fixed my custom recovery
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Guess u guys are confusing between Radio S-Off and Eng-S-OFF.
You can't install a custom recovery without Eng-SOFF, hence u can't install custom Roms.
There is a one click S-Off for Eng-Soff & Radio S-OFf which u can find in Dev Section.
This should do the work quickly and in a painless way...
Personally i would recommend to go for MIUI or CM7...

All your questions have been answered clearly.
Just one warning regarding the warranty. It's possible to revert to stock EXCEPT if one hard key is needed and it doesn't work.
If on DHD all can be done via adb then it's ok (never checked).
I'm just coming from HD2 and without vol- key you were fu**ed (can't launch the bootloader but OS bootable).
Anyway never stopped me to install custom roms the first day

[q] htc desire hd stock rom

Hello
i am new to xda and i don't know if this thread is in the right place sorry if it isn't in the right place
i have been searching all day but i couldn't find what i needed.
I rooted my htc desire hd and downloaded a custom rom
Now i want my stock rom back
i tried finding the ruu and found some by xmoo but the rom i need inst there. I downloaded version 1.72.405.3 but couldn't get the ota update to 1.8
The rom i had was
T mobile version 1.8x
anybody know where i can get that ??
thanks

4tifjaved said:
Hello
i am new to xda and i don't know if this thread is in the right place sorry if it isn't in the right place
i have been searching all day but i couldn't find what i needed.
I rooted my htc desire hd and downloaded a custom rom
Now i want my stock rom back
i tried finding the ruu and found some by xmoo but the rom i need inst there. I downloaded version 1.72.405.3 but couldn't get the ota update to 1.8
The rom i had was
T mobile version 1.8x
anybody know where i can get that ??
thanks
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I'm not sure about the T-Mobile version of the ROM (not sure of any customizations they included), but you can download stock ROM's from the link below:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Ace
Obviously the best way would be to restore a ClockwordMod Backup of your original configuration, but I'm guessing such a backup was never done?
Just out of curiosity, why do you wish to return to a stock ROM?
Hope this helps

ashleyayling said:
I'm not sure about the T-Mobile version of the ROM (not sure of any customizations they included), but you can download stock ROM's from the link below:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Ace
Obviously the best way would be to restore a ClockwordMod Backup of your original configuration, but I'm guessing such a backup was never done?
Just out of curiosity, why do you wish to return to a stock ROM?
Hope this helps
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Here's a question. I'm a proud owner of a GT-i9000 SGSI and my sister has a HTC Desire HD.
She's recently been complaining about various issues with the phone itself. I haven't had a look at it yet but I'd like to know what the most current stable stock ROM is and how to install/flash.
That link that ashleyayling has supplied takes you to a page full of ROMs for something called ACE? Is that Galaxy Ace or is that a build version or something?
I've tried searching and ROM shows up plenty of times but nothing regarding stock ROMs. TBH, I haven't looked through all 39 pages of the search but I thought maybe someone will be able to help me?
To summarise:
1. Latest (stable) stock ROM
2. How to install/flash
Many thanks.

Akhtar507 said:
That link that ashleyayling has supplied takes you to a page full of ROMs for something called ACE? Is that Galaxy Ace or is that a build version or something?
I've tried searching and ROM shows up plenty of times but nothing regarding stock ROMs. TBH, I haven't looked through all 39 pages of the search but I thought maybe someone will be able to help me?
To summarise:
1. Latest (stable) stock ROM
2. How to install/flash
Many thanks.
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1. The link provided above is a full list of stock roms in RUU format. Ace was the codename for the Desire HD, so anything referring to Ace is usually the DHD
2. have a look in the development section, there's heaps of threads to help you out with this one, I don't think it would be an easy straightforward answer for someone to give you here (that's why there's whole threads dedicated to it)

Not to barge in on someone else needing help (Noob to the forums) but wondered if you can point me in the right direction! Desperately in need of help as I just killed My Rooted then OTA updated (killing the root) DHD. I was trying to root it again using the Ace Hack Tool and it's now stuck at the T-Mobile loading screen! I'm stumped as to what to do as no matter what I put on the SD it won't update it to work. And can't update via USB as it won't go into the OS. It does flash up quickly some writing while going into the bootloader but all I can make out is Image not Found... Please help! ATM its an expensive paperweight!

Sorry, I looked at the link given and there are loads of .exe downloads.
Can someone please say which one is the latest Stock RUU, I am selling my phone tomorrow and need to put it back to stock, if someone can just say which one I need to download.
Im guessing I just install it like I do with any custom rom through clockword mod.
Will I have root after the stock RUU has been installed? I dont think it matters if it is rooted or not so i'm not bothered too much about that, but i'm not sure they'll be happy if its on ICS MIUI which isn't 100% stable
Kevin

[Q] Galaxy Newbie / Root / Roms / Radio

Hey Guys, i´m coming from the desire z and got few small questions.
1. someone told me there´s no need to root the device, is that right or not?
2. do i need a kind of dev-bootloader?
3. which recovery is the best? / does the ext4 recovery exist for the nexus? really liked to work with it
4. got o2(germany), is there any recommended radio?
5. are there big differences between the roms? which one would u take? i personally would take cm9, because i used cm7 on my desire z, but e.g. android revolution got a lot of clicks, why do so many people prefere it?
for the moment, these are the questions that are in my mind, think in 2 days it´s gonna arrive, just wanted to make sure everything can ben realised as fast as possible when my new phone arrives
thanks in advance

no one an idea?

L-ViZ said:
Hey Guys, i´m coming from the desire z and got few small questions.
1. someone told me there´s no need to root the device, is that right or not?
2. do i need a kind of dev-bootloader?
3. which recovery is the best? / does the ext4 recovery exist for the nexus? really liked to work with it
4. got o2(germany), is there any recommended radio?
5. are there big differences between the roms? which one would u take? i personally would take cm9, because i used cm7 on my desire z, but e.g. android revolution got a lot of clicks, why do so many people prefere it?
for the moment, these are the questions that are in my mind, think in 2 days it´s gonna arrive, just wanted to make sure everything can ben realised as fast as possible when my new phone arrives
thanks in advance
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1. There are definite benefits to unlocking the bootloader and rooting. And if you ever had to, you can go back to stock. The great thing about the Galaxy Nexus is how very hard it is to truly brick, but dont try
2. No, unlocking the bootloader is actually pretty simple. You will need Android SDK and the drivers installed on your computer
3. I prefer Clockwork Mod Recovery. Because its the most popular, it is also what most instructions are for
4. You will just have to read through some of the GSM radio threads. Updating to 4.0.4 is probably all you need though.
5. Yes there are difference between ROMS. I am currently using AOKP Milestone 4. CM9 is certainly great with a lot of feature. ARHD is more to the stock feel. Its not going to have as many feature as AOKP, CM9, or Gummy, but it is a very smooth ROM. Honestly it just comes down to what you like in the feature list.
If you have any questions on how to do any of this there are detailed, near fool-proof, instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442184

L-ViZ said:
1. someone told me there´s no need to root the device, is that right or not?
2. do i need a kind of dev-bootloader?
3. which recovery is the best? / does the ext4 recovery exist for the nexus? really liked to work with it
4. got o2(germany), is there any recommended radio?
5. are there big differences between the roms? which one would u take? i personally would take cm9, because i used cm7 on my desire z, but e.g. android revolution got a lot of clicks, why do so many people prefere it?
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Guude
1) Depends on what you wanna do with the phone. Mine is rooted
2) Not really
3) I would use CWM. Works perfect and is very popular
4) I always used the radio coming with the installaled Rom. And had no problems at all.
5) At the moment i use Gummy Rom. Tried Cm9 a few nightlies ago, but actually i like gummy more. Still some bugs (camera doesn`t work properly, but 3rd party cam apps do so i don`t care) and the battery life is great. Overall performance is also very good.

thank you for your answeres gonna check the roms

[Q] Help with Xperia Play - Flash?

Hello! I'm a noob here for now, but I hope I can change that.
I will own an Xperia Play soon.
(EDIT)If it helps: It will be an Xperia Play in White. I read that it may be R800i... don't know what's meant and what differences are. (Because there is R800x, R800a...)
I found out, that you can install ROMS, and do a lots of stuffs (well, it's Sony) if you flash it or something...
My question:
After searching the Board for how to flash it, i realized that I don't know so much about the Xperia Play and where I should begin.
I ask you, how do I flash it, what about the ROMs and what should I know about it, I mean, what does this flashing give to me? (I know about the risks since I'm hacking and flashing PlayStation Consoles...) Is there more things I can do then with it?
Thank you in advance! Any help is good for me.
Greetings,
HelpmeImTired.

U can flash custom kernel and custom rom to PLAY
For kernel, it normally will give u more freedom to play with you device cpu speed and some tweaks related to it (like i/o and else) some kernel also bring support to more advanced setup option for your device
To flash custom kernel u will need unlocked bootloader.
As custom rom, i believe u will understand what it can do by browse through development section..
Normally we flash the rom via CWM recovery (which normally come together with custom kernel)
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otonieru said:
U can flash custom kernel and custom rom to PLAY
For kernel, it normally will give u more freedom to play with you device cpu speed and some tweaks related to it (like i/o and else) some kernel also bring support to more advanced setup option for your device
To flash custom kernel u will need unlocked bootloader.
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If I understand right, I have found in this Wiki (where I looked for some Answers) a Link to a bootloader unlocker (incl. Guide) and I should follow all the steps. Is it important to know, which version I have?
As custom rom, i believe u will understand what it can do by browse through development section..
Normally we flash the rom via CWM recovery (which normally come together with custom kernel)
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What about this CWM recovery? And where do I get this custom kernel?
I know, I'm noob. Hope I get some more answers. I want to "unlock" my phone (which I received today (AWESOME HAPPY ) ) as soon as possible ^^
I saw awesome THEMES for that phone and want to apply them.
Getting the Custom Kernel to my phone will give me access to install games the so called illegal way? You may know what I mean... after getting the software just installing it and the phone doesn't .. you know what I mean.
Thank you!