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I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]
As i am new at these things too, i will try to answer some of your questions.
1. Cyanogenmod is based on AOST source, which is main android source, while Revolution, LeeDrOID and rest are based on HTC source.
2. To be able to flash cooked ROM your Desire HD needs to be rooted.
Full step-by-step guide is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11557769
3. Themes for one ROM might work on other, but are not recommended.
4. Check the guide in point 2.
5. Same as above.
6. I think you got that right.
I hope i helped you a bit.Cheers
glenvarun said:
I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]
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Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also. You should probably ask the mod developer if his mod is compatable with another ROM, but I think CM7 being Gingerbread and ARHD3.2 being Froyo, the chances are slim. S-OFF is "Security OFF". HTC introduced a level of security which was supposed to make the system "read only" for anyone but them to prevent custom ROMs, kernels and ultimately - overclocking, which potentialy can damage your device. Luckily thy didn't do a good job on that, so the developers found a workaround. Flashing is writing a new ROM, kernel or a set of system files in your phone. And lastly, you are correct about the sense/non-sense stuff.
You can find good guides in the developement section about rooting, S-OFF (both radio and eng), flashing ROMs, etc. Bear in mind though that if your software version is 1.72, you'll have to downgrade first to get to the rootable 1.32
First of all thanks for the help.
I suppose flash means to install. Also the guide you gave me tells how to put s-off but i wanted to know what does s-off mean??
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@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
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glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Custom Roms are there to help and inprove the things...
Overclocking is running an hardware to something which it was not designed for...So it could harm the phone (Does not mean that it always does, there are guys who are running the overclock phone without problem).
Custom Roms are just the installed ROM so if you flash one rom and don't like it replace it with another one..before flashing read the instruction and flash (I was only able to run official rom for 2 hours, after that I rooted and installed CM7...
@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?
Yes you can revert your handset back to complete factory settings by running a suitable RUU (Rom Update Utility).
This will restore everything, except Radio S-OFF, back to HTC defaults. You could then send your handset away to be repaired, etc...
glenvarun said:
@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?
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Rom depends on your choice, Revolution is based on HTC framework (sense and no-sense both available), 3.2 is froyo based, 4.X is gingerbread but its in beta..YOu will get the stock applications like video player, camera etc..
CM7 is also under development, RC2 is stable version, It is based on AOSP GingerBread...has a lot of modifications....I use this one....Just my preferance...
You can try both and see which one you like...
About warrenty, yes, you need to restore the RUU to claim it, but there are enough thread around which will tell you how to do that...
The only thing is I haven't seen the RUU for India, there is one for Asia and version number is close so that can work...in case it is required, or...before flashing custom rom create a backup for your official rom and save that backup...so that you can use that to come back to official rom...
Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .
tkolev said:
Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also.
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Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)
glenvarun said:
Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .
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Some people have had trouble with the gps lock on CM7, not all, as I for one haven't got any problems with neither of the RCs nor the nightlys. I'm running nightly build 20 atm. And there is a fix for the gps included in the latest two nightlys so it's not a problem anymore.
just read a lot man, all informations you want is spread out there! in beggining this thread helps a lot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248
hope it can help! =o)
glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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No, overclocking to a reasonable extend should not harm your phone. I'm running an overclocked kernel (1.2 GHz) and it has no negative effect on my phone. In the manufacturing process there are deviations from the design and Qualcomm has rated the processor which is in our DHDs to 1GHz. This means that most processors can safely handle higher frequencies, but the higher they rate their production, more units will have to be scrapped. I think it's quite safe to go for 1.2 or even 1.5 (if you really need it and monitor the teperature closely) but I would never run on 1.8 GHz. I just wanted to explain why HTC decided to go for locked internal memory. There is a reason for that, not just because they are mean control freaks... oh wait those were Apple .
BigMrB said:
Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)
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I didn't know that you can install a custom recovery without S-OFF. Or a custom ROM without a custom recovery. Anyway there are many users which followed the guide in the developement section (including me) and did just fine (thanks to the great tools made by jkoljo and all the help we get in this great forum). Ultimately is anyone's decision what to do with his/her own phone.
I'm gonna s-off this weekend after I've fixed my custom recovery
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Guess u guys are confusing between Radio S-Off and Eng-S-OFF.
You can't install a custom recovery without Eng-SOFF, hence u can't install custom Roms.
There is a one click S-Off for Eng-Soff & Radio S-OFf which u can find in Dev Section.
This should do the work quickly and in a painless way...
Personally i would recommend to go for MIUI or CM7...
All your questions have been answered clearly.
Just one warning regarding the warranty. It's possible to revert to stock EXCEPT if one hard key is needed and it doesn't work.
If on DHD all can be done via adb then it's ok (never checked).
I'm just coming from HD2 and without vol- key you were fu**ed (can't launch the bootloader but OS bootable).
Anyway never stopped me to install custom roms the first day
First of all, im new on these forums, so hello everyone
I have experience rooting, custom rom'ing and such from my Samsung Spica i5700, but dealing with ARC S roms and unlocking seems to be a whole different world!
So, the .62 update hit me, and ofcourse without reading XDA, I updated my -only- rooted phone. Now I have the bloatware back and cannot root, blasphemy!
So I thought about unlocking the bootloader, there comes the first question
- Does the automatic root kit (DoomLords thread, v4 by now) work with .62 that has had i'ts bootloader unlocked (he mentioned it DOES NOT work with stock .62)? If it does not, which tutorial or tool should I use? Ive seen Flashtool being used, and something about flashing whole new stock roms?
Now also, I am a big fan of custom roms - but the default rom of ARC S has some great things I've noticed and use alot, so I would love to keep those. As I was looking into Arconium 6.1 rom (nearly perfect it says!), I would love to know if it has the following things still available
- Sim Toolkit, known also as STK. Because in my country we have Mobile ID cards integrated into SIM cards, so basically I can use my phone to prove my identity and give digital signatures wherever I go. This is a must have for me.
- The phone has Sony Ericsson menu under Settings. Under there, I can connect my phone to my PC over WiFI (if it has PC companion installed) - I love this feature as I dont have to connect the cable, or mess about with slow Bluetooth speeds. Does the Arconium have this capability?
The stock rom is good enough, atleast for the moment, but I love getting more out of my device. Although if it means losing those two features, I will probably stay with stock rom, and just try to root it, and remove all the bloatware.
I have been reading the forums, but lot of different threads, and they all tend to say some different things. Confusing to say the least! Also tried searching the Arconium thread about SimToolkit, only had some questions about version 3. So again, no info there.
If any of you could give me any insight into these matters, would be very lovely. Would save alot of time by not installing Roms and such that do not even suit the needs.
Once again, thank you in front for all the help
Best wishes,
Erki
painkillah said:
So I thought about unlocking the bootloader, there comes the first question
- Does the automatic root kit (DoomLords thread, v4 by now) work with .62 that has had i'ts bootloader unlocked (he mentioned it DOES NOT work with stock .62)? If it does not, which tutorial or tool should I use? Ive seen Flashtool being used, and something about flashing whole new stock roms?
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No, it only works until .62 firmware (e.g .42 & .58 firmware).
Search a little about how to root .62 firmware.
Or you could downgrade to .42 firmware using Flashtool and root.
painkillah said:
Now also, I am a big fan of custom roms - but the default rom of ARC S has some great things I've noticed and use alot, so I would love to keep those. As I was looking into Arconium 6.1 rom (nearly perfect it says!), I would love to know if it has the following things still available
- Sim Toolkit, known also as STK. Because in my country we have Mobile ID cards integrated into SIM cards, so basically I can use my phone to prove my identity and give digital signatures wherever I go. This is a must have for me.
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Yes, Sim Toolkit is integrated.
painkillah said:
The phone has Sony Ericsson menu under Settings. Under there, I can connect my phone to my PC over WiFI (if it has PC companion installed) - I love this feature as I dont have to connect the cable, or mess about with slow Bluetooth speeds. Does the Arconium have this capability?
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Afaik, it has the same Connectivity settings in SE settings as stock ROM.
painkillah said:
The stock rom is good enough, atleast for the moment, but I love getting more out of my device. Although if it means losing those two features, I will probably stay with stock rom, and just try to root it, and remove all the bloatware.
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V6 Supercharger would be also great if you only want to root and remove all bloatware.
Definitly try arconium 6.1, it's awesome and super fast
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Cheers to the both of you. Cleared up my questions nicely.
I shall try out the Arconium.
But the kernels - lot of people using DoomKernel, and then the one dp94 mentioned V6 Supercharger. Benefits - downsides to both of them? Dont care much for overclocking, because the performance of 1.4 Ghz single core is more enough for me (atleast for the time being). Would love better batterly life and/or performance without overclocking.
As far as I understand, the best way to do things is unlock bootloader, root, install CWM on phone, then let it install the CWM recovery, and from there just apply the custom roms?
Erki
painkillah said:
But the kernels - lot of people using DoomKernel, and then the one dp94 mentioned V6 Supercharger. Benefits - downsides to both of them? Dont care much for overclocking, because the performance of 1.4 Ghz single core is more enough for me (atleast for the time being). Would love better batterly life and/or performance without overclocking.
As far as I understand, the best way to do things is unlock bootloader, root, install CWM on phone, then let it install the CWM recovery, and from there just apply the custom roms?
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V6 Supercharger is a script, not a kernel.
You should definitely try DooMKernel. It's the best combination of battery life (recommend to try -36 baseband) and perfomance.
And you have to flash kernels using fastboot.
Thanks again
After looking for ways to root .62, and not finding anything - I felt like an idiot.
Then suddenly I realized what I had read about Doomkernel - it does root and CWM automatically!
Now running DoomKernel and Arconium
Would love to run CMmod, but as far as I can see, it is still missing HDMI and FM.
Cheers for all the help mate
painkillah said:
Would love to run CMmod, but as far as I can see, it is still missing HDMI and FM.
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Yes, that's correct.
Atm, these features are only working with stock based ROMs.
Hello everyone!
I am planing to root my htc desire hd cause i've read lots of stunning stuff you can do when your phone is rooted.
like using the newest version of android, installing google now and so on..
But my question is, is it possible to stay with my stock firmware (and if possible stock kernel?) somehow
and use one or more custom firmwares with programs like boot manager to find one for daily use?
and what are the disadvantages of using a custom kernel? cause i've read the following, looking through your forums:
In the present case,It is hard to say which kernel is good .All unofficial kernel have the same headphone button issue,and only 5 sensors(DHD have 7 sensors).
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(i dont even know what he means with 7 sensors.. )
ps: sorry for being so noobish and thx in advance for your answers!
SuperS_92 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planing to root my htc desire hd cause i've read lots of stunning stuff you can do when your phone is rooted.
like using the newest version of android, installing google now and so on..
But my question is, is it possible to stay with my stock firmware (and if possible stock kernel?) somehow
and use one or more custom firmwares with programs like boot manager to find one for daily use?
and what are the disadvantages of using a custom kernel? cause i've read the following, looking through your forums:
(i dont even know what he means with 7 sensors.. )
ps: sorry for being so noobish and thx in advance for your answers!
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If you use AAHK (no idea about HTCDEV method) you can simply do a full image backup of your stock firmware, including your kernel (this is called a nandroid backup), after you've rooted but before you flash a custom ROM. Then, wipe and flash custom firmwares to your heart's content. If you ever want stock back, just restore that backup. I'm not aware of a dual boot manager, though.
Usually, the kernel that came with the firmware (aka ROM) is the best kernel. Devs will post about alternate kernels that are compatible with their ROMs. (Note that if you're planning to use the latest version of Android, Jelly Bean, there is a compatible alternate kernel.)
No idea about those sensors.
SuperS_92 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planing to root my htc desire hd cause i've read lots of stunning stuff you can do when your phone is rooted.
like using the newest version of android, installing google now and so on..
But my question is, is it possible to stay with my stock firmware (and if possible stock kernel?) somehow
and use one or more custom firmwares with programs like boot manager to find one for daily use?
and what are the disadvantages of using a custom kernel? cause i've read the following, looking through your forums:
(i dont even know what he means with 7 sensors.. )
ps: sorry for being so noobish and thx in advance for your answers!
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Yes u can boot multiple roms using boot manager i hv seen it work but i hvnt been able to do it myself or u can say i was less intrested to pay attention. But the answer is yes u can. Head on to the boot manager in play store it gives u all the info u need to get u phone run two or more roms at the same time.
P.S: Speaking of which i think i might give it another go again but this time with interest.
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Hi Guys,
I am running the .62 official rom and looking for a bloat/crap free ROM to use with my Arc-S. It is a bootloader locked and cannot be unlocked so I need a working rom.
ICS is too slow for me. I can install CWM with x-parts so that works, I have installed some custom ICS roms from CWM backup zips and it works but I can't find any for the GB.
I am hoping for a very rustic base rom with no crap installed. I found a few like X-Gamer but they require the .42 official rom first and I cannot find any working link for it.
Hoping someone can help, I have done quite a bit of searching and really looking to put an end to this journey!
sombra84 said:
Hi Guys,
I am running the .62 official rom and looking for a bloat/crap free ROM to use with my Arc-S. It is a bootloader locked and cannot be unlocked so I need a working rom.
ICS is too slow for me. I can install CWM with x-parts so that works, I have installed some custom ICS roms from CWM backup zips and it works but I can't find any for the GB.
I am hoping for a very rustic base rom with no crap installed. I found a few like X-Gamer but they require the .42 official rom first and I cannot find any working link for it.
Hoping someone can help, I have done quite a bit of searching and really looking to put an end to this journey!
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Hmm... It is not possible to run jellybean/kitkat without unlocked bootloader, so you have no choice but to use ics ICS has awesome batery life BTW.
Have you tried Xperia ultimate hd by jader? Its not bad. It has aroma installer, so u can unselect those crappy apps.
Press thanks if i help^^
Glad to help:highfive:
sombra84 said:
Hi Guys,
I am running the .62 official rom and looking for a bloat/crap free ROM to use with my Arc-S. It is a bootloader locked and cannot be unlocked so I need a working rom.
ICS is too slow for me. I can install CWM with x-parts so that works, I have installed some custom ICS roms from CWM backup zips and it works but I can't find any for the GB.
I am hoping for a very rustic base rom with no crap installed. I found a few like X-Gamer but they require the .42 official rom first and I cannot find any working link for it.
Hoping someone can help, I have done quite a bit of searching and really looking to put an end to this journey!
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Use Ultimate HD 5.0.1 its awesome
sombra84 said:
Hi Guys,
I am running the .62 official rom and looking for a bloat/crap free ROM to use with my Arc-S. It is a bootloader locked and cannot be unlocked so I need a working rom.
ICS is too slow for me. I can install CWM with x-parts so that works, I have installed some custom ICS roms from CWM backup zips and it works but I can't find any for the GB.
I am hoping for a very rustic base rom with no crap installed. I found a few like X-Gamer but they require the .42 official rom first and I cannot find any working link for it.
Hoping someone can help, I have done quite a bit of searching and really looking to put an end to this journey!
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1. You're not allowed to create threads that ask for fastest ROM, or "speedy ROM" as you put it. Please change thread title or a mod will close your thread.
2. Since you're on locked bootloader, you have no choice but to stick with stock based custom ROM. UHD is one good example. However, if it doesn't suit you, you will have to find out for yourself. None of the users or the developers can help you here since you're the one using the phone.
Please read this thread for more information:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2097137
_kohjun_ said:
Hmm... It is not possible to run jellybean/kitkat without unlocked bootloader, so you have no choice but to use ics ICS has awesome batery life BTW.
Have you tried Xperia ultimate hd by jader? Its not bad. It has aroma installer, so u can unselect those crappy apps.
Press thanks if i help^^
Glad to help:highfive:
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ICS consumes more battery as a base ROM as compared to GB since it uses more resources and has more functions. Please do not give wrong information. The few ways to help ICS save battery are ROM tweaks, kernel tweaks and basic knowledge about maintaining your ROM to make it less power hungry.
If he prefers performance over functionality, GB will be a better choice for him.
esarve said:
Use Ultimate HD 5.0.1 its awesome
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Each ROM has it's pros and cons so you can't say for sure which ROM works best. Of course if you feel that it works fine, I have nothing to say since it's your phone.
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popthosegaskets said:
1. You're not allowed to create threads that ask for fastest ROM, or "speedy ROM" as you put it. Please change thread title or a mod will close your thread.
2. Since you're on locked bootloader, you have no choice but to stick with stock based custom ROM. UHD is one good example. However, if it doesn't suit you, you will have to find out for yourself. None of the users or the developers can help you here since you're the one using the phone.
ICS consumes more battery as a base ROM as compared to GB since it uses more resources and has more functions. Please do not give wrong information. The few ways to help ICS save battery are ROM tweaks, kernel tweaks and basic knowledge about maintaining your ROM to make it less power hungry.
If he prefers performance over functionality, GB will be a better choice for him.
Each ROM has it's pros and cons so you can't say for sure which ROM works best. Of course if you feel that it works fine, I have nothing to say since it's your phone.
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But he doesnt have a unlocked bootloader
_kohjun_ said:
But he doesnt have a unlocked bootloader
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Doesn't mean he cannot flash custom ROM. As long as the custom ROM is stock based and uses stock kernel he can flash it with no problems. He can easily use X-Parts to install recovery, flash any stock based custom ROM and use it. Locked bootloader does not allow unsigned kernel(a.k.a any custom kernel) to be flashed on the phone since only Sony can sign the kernels.
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Hello I am new to flashing android phones. I am currently using my Xperia Z with Android 4.4.4. But i have heard good things about old phones running new android versions. and since i like to play games, and i used the Xperia Play back in the days I was very curious about using it again. My only problem is. Where to go. I see allot of different things out there. I for example checked out cyanogenmod. But the latest file they have is from 2013-09-29 and seems outdated to me [correct me if I am wrong] I am seeing different roms for different kind of users, but I am not sure what content u want to be different.
So in a nutshell. I just want a full Android experience with better performance. i think lollipop is the way i wanna go.
I am on the original android version [2.3.4]
Any tips and tricks are welcome
There arent any official cyanogen mod roms (like kitkat, lollipop) for Xperia play anymore. You have to check the development section for unofficial cyanogen mod builds.
I made the same decision as you I used a Galaxy s3 with Android 4.4.4. But i always wanted to revive my play. I Tried out several roms, Jellybean, Kitkat, Lollipop (All found in development section) but was quite dissapointet. Jellybean had graphical issues and had a poor gaming Performance even with 1.6Ghz overclock. Lollipop isnt stable at all. So i tried out a gingerbread rom with a lollipop theme and now im quite satisfied. Its fast, has a Good gaming Performance and has no problems at all.
Additionally You should use link2sd because the internal memory is small and if you are using an android 4.0.4+ rom greenify is a great way to keep apps from running in the background and using to much ram.
Maybe try out some roms like i did, before you make the play your main device again.
Tutorials for rooting, bootloader unlocking etc. can all be found here.
Sent from my R800i using XDA Free mobile app
Hydrony said:
There arent any official cyanogen mod roms (like kitkat, lollipop) for Xperia play anymore. You have to check the development section for unofficial cyanogen mod builds.
I made the same decision as you I used a Galaxy s3 with Android 4.4.4. But i always wanted to revive my play. I Tried out several roms, Jellybean, Kitkat, Lollipop (All found in development section) but was quite dissapointet. Jellybean had graphical issues and had a poor gaming Performance even with 1.6Ghz overclock. Lollipop isnt stable at all. So i tried out a gingerbread rom with a lollipop theme and now im quite satisfied. Its fast, has a Good gaming Performance and has no problems at all.
Additionally You should use link2sd because the internal memory is small and if you are using an android 4.0.4+ rom greenify is a great way to keep apps from running in the background and using to much ram.
Maybe try out some roms like i did, before you make the play your main device again.
Tutorials for rooting, bootloader unlocking etc. can all be found here.
Sent from my R800i using XDA Free mobile app
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i guess that is quite recent u tried lollipop? I am hearing good things about old devices running 4.2, but ur not happy with the stability of that on the xperia play? And is it not possible to use sd for half internal space or something like that?
ur talking about the Development section. u mean on xda page? I am not that familiar with xda for now. if u got a link in some directions. would be appreciated
Edit: I also checked android.gs. Recommended by some peeps. but still i have no clue where to start. I still think Cyanogenmod is the way i whanna go if u whant stability. And is it recommended to use ''SuperOneClick'' for the Xperia Play?
Edit2: i installed cyanogenmod on my xperia play, but i get ''unsupported Device'' i can press ''Continue Anyway'' but I am not sure that is smart to do. some advice would be nice
Don't be lazy, check sticky threads in Xperia Play section.
Be aware, Xperia Play don't have emulated sdcard. Sdcard is real sdcard and internal available memory is limited.
My advice, use GB stock-based roms for best game perfomance.
Unlock your bootloader and flash Lupus GB kernel for more perfomance (compared to stock) and more internal memory (640MB compared to 380MB that stock have). Use link2SD, app from market, and move your apps to SDcard.
Official, last CM for Xperia Play is CM7. Unofficialy, there are FXP (FreeXperiaTeam) builds that goes up to lolipop. But IMHO, they are lacking in game-support (on lolipop touchpads don't even work, and gamepad buttons is inverted, on jellybean there are lag when pressing touchpads)
Bakisha said:
Don't be lazy, check sticky threads in Xperia Play section.
Be aware, Xperia Play don't have emulated sdcard. Sdcard is real sdcard and internal available memory is limited.
My advice, use GB stock-based roms for best game perfomance.
Unlock your bootloader and flash Lupus GB kernel for more perfomance (compared to stock) and more internal memory (640MB compared to 380MB that stock have). Use link2SD, app from market, and move your apps to SDcard.
Official, last CM for Xperia Play is CM7. Unofficialy, there are FXP (FreeXperiaTeam) builds that goes up to lolipop. But IMHO, they are lacking in game-support (on lolipop touchpads don't even work, and gamepad buttons is inverted, on jellybean there are lag when pressing touchpads)
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I am not lazy. I am just overwhelmed by the content there is out there. this confuses me at where to start for beginners. so ur saying the best way is using lupus not cyanogemod? and what android version is that lupus ur talking about?
Be aware, Xperia Play don't have emulated sdcard. Sdcard is real sdcard and internal available memory is limited.
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maybe we have a miss-communication here, but i heard somewhere that it is possible to install the internal system on the other half of the sdcard. correct me if I am wrong here. Or isn't that what u meant
Lupus is not a rom. Its a kernel. So the two things you can change at your phone are the kernel and the rom. The kernel controls the hardware of your phone, like the maximum clock frequence the cpu can scale up to, the way the ram is handled and partition sizes of the internal memory. Additionally most kernels like lupus include a custom recovery, that is needed to flash roms. The kernel can only be flashed via fastboot. This is why you have to unlock your bootloader. Otherwise you wont have access to the part of your phone where the kernel is stored.
So if you want to flash a rom, you have to flash a kernel first, but not every kernel can be used for every rom. Lupus will work with gingerbread roms only, turbo kernel works on ics and jellybean roms etc. You have to check the different kernel threads to decide which one is best for your needs and fits to the rom you want to flash.
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Lupus is not a rom. Its a kernel. So the two things you can change at your phone are the kernel and the rom. The kernel controls the hardware of your phone, like the maximum clock frequence the cpu can scale up to, the way the ram is handled and partition sizes of the internal memory. Additionally most kernels like lupus include a custom recovery, that is needed to flash roms. The kernel can only be flashed via fastboot. This is why you have to unlock your bootloader. Otherwise you wont have access to the part of your phone where the kernel is stored.
So if you want to flash a rom, you have to flash a kernel first, but not every kernel can be used for every rom. Lupus will work with gingerbread roms only, turbo kernel works on ics and jellybean roms etc. You have to check the different kernel threads to decide which one is best for your needs and fits to the rom you want to flash.
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I already unlocked my bootloader then i need to root my phone right? I am trying to follow [GUIDE][18th Dec][4Noobs] Root BootLoader Unlocked Xperia Play. But it says ''After flashing your ROM.''
I am not sure what that means. i tried SuperOneClick but that seems to only work with below .62
I know u can change roms which suits me the best. But can i also change kernels
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I already unlocked my bootloader then i need to root my phone right? I am trying to follow [GUIDE][18th Dec][4Noobs] Root BootLoader Unlocked Xperia Play. But it says ''After flashing your ROM.''
I am not sure what that means. i tried SuperOneClick but that seems to only work with below .62
I know u can change roms which suits me the best. But can i also change kernels
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Unlocking bootloader is just that, unlocked bootloader. It is only for purpose to be able to flash custom kernels (other then stock). Since you have done it, you don't have to be bothered with any more info about unlocking bootloader.
Root is different thing. It enable you administartive rights on your phone, so you could change stuff (it would be also overwhelming if i say what stuff). Most (99.99%) custom roms comes pre-rooted and you don't need to bother with it. if you are trying to root stock firmware, keep in mind that zergrush methot for rooting (i think even super-one-click use same method) work for .42 firmware and bellow. For .62 and above firmware use eroot (just google file named "eroot_v1.3.4.exe")
Use flashtool. it's a program for PC from http://flashtool.net for flashing stock firmare (ftf files) and kernels (kernel is with .img extension). If you mess something up, flashing stock ftf is 100% working way to restore phone to working condition.
Also, most (99.99%) of custom kernels have ClockworkMod recovery (or TeamWinProjectRecovery) that you can enter with button when booting (most of times it's vol-, but some of them use 'back" button).
As for internal memory, yes, you can expand it, but it tends to complicate things, so, i wouldn't recommend you to that for now.
Use kernel that matchs the rom you are trying to flash. GB rom won't boot if you have flashed ICS (or JB) kernel.
As for what is better rom/kernel, no one can answer that question (it's just troll food). You have to find yourself what suit your taste.
Check Xperia Play Index - ROM'S, FIRMWARE, KERNEL'S, GUIDE'S, THEMES, MOD'S
Root is different thing. It enable you administartive rights on your phone, so you could change stuff (it would be also overwhelming if i say what stuff). Most (99.99%) custom roms comes pre-rooted and you don't need to bother with it. if you are trying to root stock firmware, keep in mind that zergrush methot for rooting (i think even super-one-click use same method) work for .42 firmware and bellow. For .62 and above firmware use eroot (just google file named "eroot_v1.3.4.exe")
Use flashtool. it's a program for PC from http://flashtool.net for flashing stock firmare (ftf files) and kernels (kernel is with .img extension). If you mess something up, flashing stock ftf is 100% working way to restore phone to working condition.
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Ahhh o was thinking i had to root stock in order to install different kernels/roms but if i understand, u only need to unlock the bootloader in order to run different kernels/roms for that.
So flashing a kernel is some sort of way for making a backup?
Edit: Yeah i have .69 i tried super-one-click but it crashed right away. I am already gonna use a different kernel i see not reason why i should root my stock version
Root is different thing. It enable you administartive rights on your phone, so you could change stuff (it would be also overwhelming if i say what stuff). Most (99.99%) custom roms comes pre-rooted and you don't need to bother with it. if you are trying to root stock firmware, keep in mind that zergrush methot for rooting (i think even super-one-click use same method) work for .42 firmware and bellow. For .62 and above firmware use eroot (just google file named "eroot_v1.3.4.exe")
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I used "eroot_v1.3.4.exe". Phone seems to be rooted. i got Superuser now. Only when i launch it it shows me ''There are currently no Superuser app policies'' do i need to install something else in in order to use it?
the reason why i whant to root my stock is i whant to have a recovery backup on hand.
i still find some of the tutorials on xda real foggy. so like when i see a kernal i like and i whant to install, i use Flashtool to install them?
its still really confusing which rom works with which kernel. i can't really find a nice thread to look this out
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Ahhh o was thinking i had to root stock in order to install different kernels/roms but if i understand, u only need to unlock the bootloader in order to run different kernels/roms for that.
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I used "eroot_v1.3.4.exe". Phone seems to be rooted. i got Superuser now. Only when i launch it it shows me ''There are currently no Superuser app policies'' do i need to install something else in in order to use it?
the reason why i whant to root my stock is i whant to have a recovery backup on hand.
i still find some of the tutorials on xda real foggy. so like when i see a kernal i like and i whant to install, i use Flashtool to install them?
its still really confusing which rom works with which kernel. i can't really find a nice thread to look this out
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Now you have root. Superuser app is just app that grant other apps root permission. On it's own don't have much to do. When other app ask for root permition, you'll be asked do you want to grant or deny that root permission.
To have recovery on stock kernel, you'll need app for that.
[APP]/[RECOVERY]x-Parts [CWM Installer] [Version 7.0] 29/6/12
Make sure you download v5 (CWM Installer-v5.apk) from attachment, because v7 don't work on Xperia Play
When you have custom kernel, you won't need app for recovery, because recovery is already included in kernel.
You don't need flashtool to install kernel, but it is much easier, with just few click.
Without flashtool, you'll need to put kernel file in same directory where you adb.exe and fastboot.exe is (from android SDK or flashtool folder) and flash it by typing from command promt (i don't even remember exact commands for it, it was so long ago i was flashing that way, that i forgot about it)
And also, flashtool containt windows driver for flash and fastboot mode.
As i said, kernel must be same match as ROM.
Stock kernel, Lupus GB v12, Doomlord V14, Extreme kernel are used for roms based on stock firmware (which is GB) and you can't use ICS, JB, KK or LP roms with those kernels.
Also, most CM roms comes with kernel inside zip file (boot.img) that need to be flashed.
CM7, even it's GB rom must use it's own kernel because it is not stock-based rom and will not work with stock-based kernels.
If you dont have any app that needs superuser rights, then it wont show you anything of course. You could try no-frills cpu control to see that youre rooted for example.
Almost every rom comes with a kernel. So if you download a rom, check the zip-file and if something like boot.img is included in there extract it. This kernel should perfectly work with the rom, because the developer included it, or he build this kernel especially for the rom.
If you succesfully flashed the kernel through fastboot and got the rom to work you can think about using another kernel
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Hydrony. U where talking about ur using gingerbread now. u also mentioned try using android 4.0.4+ rom greenify. for lower hardware usage. I cannot find ''rom greenify'' in the development section.
I am checking out this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-play/development/dev-play-neo-l-legacyxperia-t2802932 the part I don't understand are the requirements. They say ''Have the stock ICS 4.1.B.0.587 full ftf flashed'' i guess that is the CM Kernel right? They are talking about the CM11.0 in the thread titel but i see https://basketbuild.com/devs/LegacyXperia/zeus a CM12.0 version in the folders. does this mean there is an update for this CM, and that i can now go for CM12.0 or is this for other devices? After that they are talking about ''R800i (Play) users need to flash MT25i (Neo L) ftf'' is this something i must do first? and what is it
Almost every rom comes with a kernel. So if you download a rom, check the zip-file and if something like boot.img is included in there extract it. This kernel should perfectly work with the rom, because the developer included it, or he build this kernel especially for the rom.
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i have totally no idea where to unpack this..
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i do got the kernel with it ''boot.img''
If you succesfully flashed the kernel through fastboot and got the rom to work you can think about using another kernel
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Editke i got it running now. i only forgot to install gapps. iam not sure if it matters which gapps i take http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53319258#post53319258 Should i just go for 5.0.X?
its hard finding a kernel+rom where i can use Nintendo 64 Emulator without problems. tried 2 so far but they booth keep hanging up. anyone got a link to one i should try?
Yes, I am using a gingerbread rom, because its fast and reliable and all emulators i use (Drastic, n64oid etc.) Run very well.
Greenify is not a rom, its an app thats Working on devices with at least ice cream sandwhich installed. It hibernates all apps, that you dont use at the moment, so they dont waste ram capacity which is quite important on devices with low ram like Xperia play.
Ftf files must be flashed with flashtool. They are the stock firmwares from sony and some custom roms need specific stock Roms as a base. So you should install them before flashing kernel etc. If you dont want to encounter problems
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Ftf files must be flashed with flashtool. They are the stock firmwares from sony and some custom roms need specific stock Roms as a base. So you should install them before flashing kernel etc. If you dont want to encounter problems
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ah oke. So that means i have to download the stock firmware, flash it. And after that, flash the kernel? Is there only one ftf stock firmare file? Or does every different kernel needs a different stock firmware