Does any one know if there will be a CM9 release for the DHD? Will it have Linaro incorporated in it? Is there any other way we might be getting a taste of the performance enhancements in Linaro?
Was just wondering if anyone has heard anything related to the matter. What I had read about performance enhancement ranging form 50- 100 % by just software tweaks sounds amazing :S
LCD has added it to his roms. The CM team has stated on Facebook that they will not be adding it right away due to it breaking random things.
People are expecting a lot more improvements then they will really see.
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LCD? is that lord clockan? have you tried the rom? did you feel linaro made any visible improvements?
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Yes sorry auto correct made LC to LCD by mistake. While there is some improvement it is not the next best thing to hit Android. Also remember the board they were working with was a nexus board made for ICS as to what we have are hacked together builds.
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cool ... Im holding out untill the official ics release for dhd so as to avoid all the camera issues. Anyways there was one article talking about google integrating linaro into its original software so who knows. .. we might see an ics update from google and hopefully that could be enough to automatically take those changes across devices.
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Linaro is breaking a number of things at the moment. Besides, the CM source is frozen, won't be accepting anything into the release branch unless it is a bug fix or device support I believe.
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It will amazing. ...
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It will amazing. ...
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you're right: linaro changes has been abandoned and cm9 won't have that stuff.
this is truly amazing, I'm happy to see our devs recognize useless things (like your beloved linaro)
Its not that it was dropped because it was useless. In fact stuff from linaro have been merged and will be. Steve doesn't think its a good idea to currently switch to gcc4.7 which linaro uses. 4.7 is not as tested and mature as 4.6 so it does cause some issues/breaks things. So Steve chose to stick for 4.6 at least for now
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I was just wondering how many other people are already planning to upgrade over to Jellybean once it actually comes out (officially or unofficially). There are a lot of perks with staying stock like stability etc but will miss the functionality and tweakability of custom ROMs.
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As soon as there is AOKP for JB - I'm upgrading.
I'll wait a few months to give ample time for all inclusive feedback from the community, and to give the CM team some time to fine tune. But yea, eventually.
As soon as it comes out I'll be swapping! Personally I found the Google images to be perfectly fine to be running as my daily driver and as much as I love my customisations, I won't mind the new features.
Upgrading right away. I don't see a reason why not. Plus it won't take as long for cm to port it over because the code won't be a restart from scratch (compared to gb vs ics)
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As soon as it comes out I'll be swapping! Personally I found the Google images to be perfectly fine to be running as my daily driver and as much as I love my customisations, I won't mind the new features.
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I personally feel the same as you. I've been using CM9 since I bought my Nexus back in December '11 and I flash nearly every nightly that's released. So keeping with the trend and to stay cutting edge I will upgrade to stock JB until CM10 or whatever it's gonna be called comes out.
Just my 2 cents
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Just when cm team release they version
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Stock or not, I'll upgrade
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After the devs have their way with it...sure
Sure I'll go stock and wait for the cyanogen team to update and release a stable version.
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As soon as Rascream gets it ill give it a go... I have been in stock, aokp, cm9,eb,paranoid,fh and tried all the kernels franco/trinity /glados/stock with all the roms also got all the apps control for the main kernels trinity/franco/glados and I kept going back to cm9 they do a perfect job and it's a great rom combined with Franco or Linaro franco its a beast getting over 4500 in quadrant at 1600mhz 512mhz gpu and the phone was smooth as the real hell but hey the battery drain at such performance its crazy... so with cpu at 1400 and interactive governor battery was about 15 hours with 4 hours screen, and still buttery smooth... or at least that's what I thought.... until 2 days ago I decided to try a Linaro optimized rom and the name Rascream came up since I'm trying the franco Linaro seemed to be a good idea...
Gentlemans I don't think I'm going back to any other rom after trying this.. he encourage to use it along with trinity Kernel and i gave it the go... now the phone its so smooth that I can't believe it... damn... And the battery over 20 hours with 5 hours screen lol... Well I'd just can't imagine what it will be with jb Linaro optimized and hey I won't ever use non Linaro rom again...
just my opinion and my experience
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After the devs have their way with it...sure
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This. To be honest CM9/MIUI are gonna hold me over till jelly bean starts making its way into the branches. I'm banking on 4.1 being incremental at most anyways so it shouldn't take too long. I really can't see Google revamping again unless they do it for tablet mode only
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Well, if it offers improvements in areas that one my phone need to be improved, certainly I will make the early transition, however, I will probably wait until there is a custom ROM and Kernel or two available.
As soon as a stock/rooted version for yakju hits either Google's factory image page or XDA, I'll try it out as soon as I can.
As it seems to be JB will be a point update, basically a polished and tweaked ICS , so stability should not be in question, so i guess as soon as it's officialy released there's no reason not to go for it.
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I'm sticking with 4.0.1 yakju for the next week and incrementally updating to 4.0.4. I've had to many problems with random rebooting... so testing different theories out first.
If Jellybean addresses the random reboot issue (still haven't found anything concrete on XDA or other about the potential causes) I'll likely give it a shot right away. Worse case scenario I revert back to my .1 backup (or whichever stable version my phone is running on at the time).
I'm thinking of waiting for a CM. CM9.1 anyone?
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This is XDA developers of course people here are going to want to upgrade to the newest version
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I was just wondering how many other people are already planning to upgrade over to Jellybean once it actually comes out (officially or unofficially). There are a lot of perks with staying stock like stability etc but will miss the functionality and tweakability of custom ROMs.
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Well as soon as I get the update notification... I'll take it. Why wouldn't you? Its not like there are going to be massive bugs or anything. If there's a serious problem it wouldn't be released.
You'd think I would have figured this out by now, but having been a CM9 loyalist since day one I never bothered to learn what any of the others constitute beyond looking at what their acronyms stood for.
So my questions are as follows:
1) What exactly is the difference between Android Open Source, Android Open Kang, and CyanogenMod? My initial understanding (and this was when I followed the stuff more closely on the HP Touchpad) was that AOSP was built directly from the source Google released, CM9 took it and tweaked it for the specific device, and AOKP piggybacked off that to further tweak. I'm not so sure anymore.
2) Who's developing what? I thought the three branches were distinct but then I see sbrissen and chris seemingly making commits to both CM and AOSP, so I'm a little confused by this.
3) What's receiving the most development right now? I was on CM9 Alpha 6 for the longest time. I was debating from moving to a CM9 nightly or a CM10 beta, but the separate thread for AOSP Jellybean made me wonder what exactly that offered vs CM10. I was tempted to stay on CM9 just because it's been around longer but I haven't seen any "official" updates in awhile (i.e. ones on the e4gt.blogspot.com site--I'm sure the nightlies are official in some sense). Is it still even being worked on by the CM team anymore or have they all jumped ship to CM10 development?
As of right now I just flashed the FH13 ICS Stock onto my phone to see how that works out. When the other roms reach a better level of stability I'll probably move back to one of the CM's, but I wanted some idea of what I'm flashing before I do.
Thanks in advance.
Aosp is pure android like on a nexus.
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Aosp is pure android like on a nexus.
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Okay...half-answered one of my three questions...and I kind already knew that.
Thanks anyway.
Google it. You will get your answers. Most pointing to the xda forums.
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Cm9 is still being worked on. Chris41g is working on making it officially supported. His nightlies are so much better than alpha 6. I'd recommend upgrading to a nightly if you are on a6. Sbrissens jb aosp is also amazing as well. For me the jump from his alpha 4 to 5 was a huge difference in terms of battery life. I haven't had any los on it or any other problems on it. Recently on one of the alphas (idr which one, probably the latest) he added the status bar toggles so that was a huge plus as well. It still doesn't have the customization of cm10 but it's still amazing.
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i've been trying numerous CM builds in my dinc including PONS builds, condemned, and the newest nightlys. i still havent been able to really solidify that one is better than the other. anyone wanna share some experience on which might be better? specifically ive been deciding between the newest nightlys and condemned's stable build. which do you guys think is better?
I've always like Pons' kangs for the open commits. Maybe if you ask really nicely, he'll update his build. However there may not be any changes worth rebuilding for.
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i've been trying numerous CM builds in my dinc including PONS builds, condemned, and the newest nightlys. i still havent been able to really solidify that one is better than the other. anyone wanna share some experience on which might be better? specifically ive been deciding between the newest nightlys and condemned's stable build. which do you guys think is better?
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Try all of Pons ROMs even his JB ROMs are mega stable.
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I have been rocking condemned v15 and love it. It just works.
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another big question is, do you guys all use adrenaline mod? if so, with what rom? i found that adrenaline didnt have much of an effect on condemned, whereas on the new nightlys (like the one posted today), it seems to make a big difference. is this because of the tweaks done to condemned? are they better tweaks? sorry if i sound like some college girl who knows nothing but this has been rocking my mind a bit
Which ROM is best/most stable is subjective depending on who you talk to, ask 10 different people, get 10 different answers. These types of threads aren't encouraged and hence closed but you can read and join in with the discussion in the General forum here as this was left to stop further threads being opened.
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Can someone point out how much improvement/smoothness linaro compiled roms provide over stock/regular compiled roms? Also are there any downside to using linaro compiled roms ? Also which is the best/try out worthy linaro compiled rom?
TIA
P.S. Comments from devs or someone into development would be really helpful.
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Couldn't you just have searched for toolchain benchmarks, reading the comments on the dev section of the ROMs built with Linaro...
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Not sure if there is even a difference, many have said it is just a placebo hence why all devs don't use it. When I have ran it, it seems that the phone runs smoother but who knows for sure.
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Couldn't you just have searched for toolchain benchmarks, reading the comments on the dev section of the ROMs built with Linaro...
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I wanted to know from user point of view. Someone who has experienced it.
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Not sure if there is even a difference, many have said it is just a placebo hence why all devs don't use it. When I have ran it, it seems that the phone runs smoother but who knows for sure.
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Thanks for the input
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I'm on the HTC Rezound, all of our AOSP roms use Linaro. I've run betas of the same rom without Linaro, and it's definitely smoother with Linaro. You notice this with the notification drawer pull down and launcher screen transitions.
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I'm on the HTC Rezound, all of our AOSP roms use Linaro. I've run betas of the same rom without Linaro, and it's definitely smoother with Linaro. You notice this with the notification drawer pull down and launcher screen transitions.
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Thanks brenuga. Will surely look forward to linaro compiled Roms. :thumbup:
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YW although I'm surprised there is no linaro-built rom for galaxy nexus. I'm pretty sure paranoid android is...
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YW although I'm surprised there is no linaro-built rom for galaxy nexus. I'm pretty sure paranoid android is...
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There are many linaro built ROMs for the GN.
One guy ran all sorts of different tests on linaro and others. Results were all similar...
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I've read that roms with linaro are faster. Are roms that are built with the linaro toolchain actually faster? Does it have any noticeable effect, or is it just like a placebo thing?
Thanks~
I'm on a linaro based coming from a non linaro base, and I think it feels faster and smoother... Could be placebo though. I'm actually going to take the next 30 minutes to read up on it. I'll be back.
Consensus is, no it not placebo, I've yet to come across any thing that is detrimental evidnece (I don't consider most of the benchmarks to be evidence) But I read about 6 pages and all gave info on how it compilies faster and helps the CPU act and process things faster. I'm noticing a little difference, but nothing to make you, mess (poo) your self.
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I'm interested to give the new illusion ROM a try since it will be based on linaro. What ROM are you on mt3g?
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lol
Ok
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The rom you are going to run, I test for Ramsay.
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The rom you are going to run, I test for Ramsay.
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Duh
My bad. Good to hear good things about it. Anxiously awaiting the release. Thanks
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Ya, they are waiting to make sure it is 100& the way they want it before a release. Some good stuff is in the works for sure though.
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I've read that roms with linaro are faster. Are roms that are built with the linaro toolchain actually faster? Does it have any noticeable effect, or is it just like a placebo thing?
Thanks~
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Back when I was working on aospX with existz, we used the linaro toolchain (and then migrated to his custom toolchain based on linaro, because the most recent linaro toolchain at the time was a little buggy) and it made somewhat of a difference in things like scrolling and stuff like that... But that was for gcc-4.6. I have yet to try building with the recent linaro-4.7 for aokpX as I haven't really had the time, but existz says that performance with the latest android gcc-4.7 toolchain is about on-par with the linaro one so we've been sticking with the one from aosp.
Although, I think its up to the end-user to decide if the improvements are really there. The way I see it is.. if your device feels smoother to you with a linaro-compiled build/kernel, then what anyone else thinks about the toolchain shouldn't matter.
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