You'd think I would have figured this out by now, but having been a CM9 loyalist since day one I never bothered to learn what any of the others constitute beyond looking at what their acronyms stood for.
So my questions are as follows:
1) What exactly is the difference between Android Open Source, Android Open Kang, and CyanogenMod? My initial understanding (and this was when I followed the stuff more closely on the HP Touchpad) was that AOSP was built directly from the source Google released, CM9 took it and tweaked it for the specific device, and AOKP piggybacked off that to further tweak. I'm not so sure anymore.
2) Who's developing what? I thought the three branches were distinct but then I see sbrissen and chris seemingly making commits to both CM and AOSP, so I'm a little confused by this.
3) What's receiving the most development right now? I was on CM9 Alpha 6 for the longest time. I was debating from moving to a CM9 nightly or a CM10 beta, but the separate thread for AOSP Jellybean made me wonder what exactly that offered vs CM10. I was tempted to stay on CM9 just because it's been around longer but I haven't seen any "official" updates in awhile (i.e. ones on the e4gt.blogspot.com site--I'm sure the nightlies are official in some sense). Is it still even being worked on by the CM team anymore or have they all jumped ship to CM10 development?
As of right now I just flashed the FH13 ICS Stock onto my phone to see how that works out. When the other roms reach a better level of stability I'll probably move back to one of the CM's, but I wanted some idea of what I'm flashing before I do.
Thanks in advance.
Aosp is pure android like on a nexus.
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Aosp is pure android like on a nexus.
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Okay...half-answered one of my three questions...and I kind already knew that.
Thanks anyway.
Google it. You will get your answers. Most pointing to the xda forums.
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Cm9 is still being worked on. Chris41g is working on making it officially supported. His nightlies are so much better than alpha 6. I'd recommend upgrading to a nightly if you are on a6. Sbrissens jb aosp is also amazing as well. For me the jump from his alpha 4 to 5 was a huge difference in terms of battery life. I haven't had any los on it or any other problems on it. Recently on one of the alphas (idr which one, probably the latest) he added the status bar toggles so that was a huge plus as well. It still doesn't have the customization of cm10 but it's still amazing.
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I am currently using a Sensation, however I will likely be purchasing a GNEX in the next week or two. I have become accustomed to flashing different ROMs on my Sensation so I wanted to know if a stable (not nightly) version of CM9 was currently available for this device. I checked on the CM site and its a bit hard to determine what is nightly vs stable, so I figured I would ask around here. Thanks in advance, and I hope to be joining the discussions on this forum soon!
no phones have a non-nightly version. NO RC1 version has came out for CM9 regardless of what phone it is.
aokp is really stable + more features than cm9.
Cm9 is stable and fast.
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nightly is VERY!!!! stable
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no phones have a non-nightly version. NO RC1 version has came out for CM9 regardless of what phone it is.
aokp is really stable + more features than cm9.
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What features are noteworthy that distinguish the two ROMs?
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What features are noteworthy that distinguish the two ROMs?
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Cm9 doesn't have many extra features ... AOKP has too many features
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Cm9 doesn't have many extra features ... AOKP has too many features
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Pretty much what he said. Go through the roms features and change log and you can answer that question on your own.
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CM9 newest nightly is always the best f it is newer than RC!
on ZTE Blade I flash always the newest nightly of CM7...
Does GN CM9 Nightly (newest) use the Android 2.3 Gingerbread CM7 music player? If I remember fine then it is using that..
Please, use CM9 AND DONT USR AOKP! We don't need another thread about someone complaining about something not working or horrible battery drain...etc...etc. CM9 is leaps and bounds faster and more stable.
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Please, use CM9 AND DONT USR AOKP! We don't need another thread about someone complaining about something not working or horrible battery drain...etc...etc. CM9 is leaps and bounds faster and more stable.
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I disagree, AOKP is very stable. It has many features. Don't take what people says. Its about personal preference
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I came from the Sensation and while Vorbeth did a nice job with Opensensation, the nightly CM9 I'm running is VERY excellent. The only bugs I saw when I skimmed thru the thread were with people trying to run custom kernels.
And to be honest, the stock ROM was kicking ass too. There's nothing like having a phone that's truly open to unlock and have fun with. Plus, there are no bugs with certain components usually found in phones with sense or touchwiz. Bluetooth, camera, video recording and HD playback WORK exactly the way they're supposed to.
From this point forward, I will only buy a nexus device. I'm not trying to convince you, just giving my honest opinion.
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Please, use CM9 AND DONT USR AOKP! We don't need another thread about someone complaining about something not working or horrible battery drain...etc...etc. CM9 is leaps and bounds faster and more stable.
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That's your own personal opinion the rom has been stable since it's release for me.
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I was just wondering how many other people are already planning to upgrade over to Jellybean once it actually comes out (officially or unofficially). There are a lot of perks with staying stock like stability etc but will miss the functionality and tweakability of custom ROMs.
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As soon as there is AOKP for JB - I'm upgrading.
I'll wait a few months to give ample time for all inclusive feedback from the community, and to give the CM team some time to fine tune. But yea, eventually.
As soon as it comes out I'll be swapping! Personally I found the Google images to be perfectly fine to be running as my daily driver and as much as I love my customisations, I won't mind the new features.
Upgrading right away. I don't see a reason why not. Plus it won't take as long for cm to port it over because the code won't be a restart from scratch (compared to gb vs ics)
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As soon as it comes out I'll be swapping! Personally I found the Google images to be perfectly fine to be running as my daily driver and as much as I love my customisations, I won't mind the new features.
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I personally feel the same as you. I've been using CM9 since I bought my Nexus back in December '11 and I flash nearly every nightly that's released. So keeping with the trend and to stay cutting edge I will upgrade to stock JB until CM10 or whatever it's gonna be called comes out.
Just my 2 cents
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Just when cm team release they version
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Stock or not, I'll upgrade
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After the devs have their way with it...sure
Sure I'll go stock and wait for the cyanogen team to update and release a stable version.
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As soon as Rascream gets it ill give it a go... I have been in stock, aokp, cm9,eb,paranoid,fh and tried all the kernels franco/trinity /glados/stock with all the roms also got all the apps control for the main kernels trinity/franco/glados and I kept going back to cm9 they do a perfect job and it's a great rom combined with Franco or Linaro franco its a beast getting over 4500 in quadrant at 1600mhz 512mhz gpu and the phone was smooth as the real hell but hey the battery drain at such performance its crazy... so with cpu at 1400 and interactive governor battery was about 15 hours with 4 hours screen, and still buttery smooth... or at least that's what I thought.... until 2 days ago I decided to try a Linaro optimized rom and the name Rascream came up since I'm trying the franco Linaro seemed to be a good idea...
Gentlemans I don't think I'm going back to any other rom after trying this.. he encourage to use it along with trinity Kernel and i gave it the go... now the phone its so smooth that I can't believe it... damn... And the battery over 20 hours with 5 hours screen lol... Well I'd just can't imagine what it will be with jb Linaro optimized and hey I won't ever use non Linaro rom again...
just my opinion and my experience
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After the devs have their way with it...sure
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This. To be honest CM9/MIUI are gonna hold me over till jelly bean starts making its way into the branches. I'm banking on 4.1 being incremental at most anyways so it shouldn't take too long. I really can't see Google revamping again unless they do it for tablet mode only
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Well, if it offers improvements in areas that one my phone need to be improved, certainly I will make the early transition, however, I will probably wait until there is a custom ROM and Kernel or two available.
As soon as a stock/rooted version for yakju hits either Google's factory image page or XDA, I'll try it out as soon as I can.
As it seems to be JB will be a point update, basically a polished and tweaked ICS , so stability should not be in question, so i guess as soon as it's officialy released there's no reason not to go for it.
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I'm sticking with 4.0.1 yakju for the next week and incrementally updating to 4.0.4. I've had to many problems with random rebooting... so testing different theories out first.
If Jellybean addresses the random reboot issue (still haven't found anything concrete on XDA or other about the potential causes) I'll likely give it a shot right away. Worse case scenario I revert back to my .1 backup (or whichever stable version my phone is running on at the time).
I'm thinking of waiting for a CM. CM9.1 anyone?
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This is XDA developers of course people here are going to want to upgrade to the newest version
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I was just wondering how many other people are already planning to upgrade over to Jellybean once it actually comes out (officially or unofficially). There are a lot of perks with staying stock like stability etc but will miss the functionality and tweakability of custom ROMs.
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Well as soon as I get the update notification... I'll take it. Why wouldn't you? Its not like there are going to be massive bugs or anything. If there's a serious problem it wouldn't be released.
Hey everyone, simple question!
Will CM9 stop development now that CM10 is out? Ive ran CM10 for like 5 hours, loved it. And noticed its a lot like CM9. No new tweaks for anything. New interface (Due to jellybean) but other than that its pretty much a lot like CM9. So will they stop making CM9 builds? Like will they stop making RC's or a stable build and just focus on CM10?
Once they officially move to CM10, yes, CM9 development will stop. They will then maintain CM10 and CM7 for older devices. I'm too lazy to look, but I'm sure some Googling would find for you where they said that.
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Once they officially move to CM10, yes, CM9 development will stop. They will then maintain CM10 and CM7 for older devices. I'm too lazy to look, but I'm sure some Googling would find for you where they said that.
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There isnt much about ceasing development for CM9 to better focus on CM10. I was hoping someone on the CM team could give me a definite answer. I mean there is so much work done for CM9 i cant see them just dropping it. Maybe after a Stable build is confirmed they will focus on CM10. There are lots of bugs in CM9 yet.
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There isnt much about ceasing development for CM9 to better focus on CM10. I was hoping someone on the CM team could give me a definite answer. I mean there is so much work done for CM9 i cant see them just dropping it. Maybe after a Stable build is confirmed they will focus on CM10. There are lots of bugs in CM9 yet.
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I think the bugs your referring to on 9 will eventually get worked out on 10. JB is basically a refinement of ICS.
The only reason I say this is because a few of the bugs I had in 9 are gone now that I'm using 10. Even though I have way more bugs now using 10...lol.
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I think the bugs your referring to on 9 will eventually get worked out on 10. JB is basically a refinement of ICS.
The only reason I say this is because a few of the bugs I had in 9 are gone now that I'm using 10. Even though I have way more bugs now using 10...lol.
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Bahaha! Which bugs are gone? I ran cm10 for like 5 hours and loved it. But too many bugs to keep as a dd. I really really really want the disable full screen tweak which we had in cm7. That's like all I want. Lol
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Bahaha! Which bugs are gone? I ran cm10 for like 5 hours and loved it. But too many bugs to keep as a dd. I really really really want the disable full screen tweak which we had in cm7. That's like all I want. Lol
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You know just some little bugs, but some were very obvious like, audio & system sounds are much improved. In fact I couldn't even here system sounds at all, but now they're clear as day. On 9 my audio would mute when I received a notification while listening to music/podcasts, now it resumes like it should. My soft key lights function all the time now and don't just come in when they want to.
Now this is just my opinion, but I think since 9 & 10 are so closely related, that they'll just incorporate any remaining bugs from 9 and focus on JB. ICS will naturally benefit from all the work on JB. Again, just my opinion
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It makes sense actually. Ms guru just posted on the cyanogenmod forum about how ****ty the nightlys have become. So it almost seems as if focus has gone onto cm10
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It makes sense actually. Ms guru just posted on the cyanogenmod forum about how ****ty the nightlys have become. So it almost seems as if focus has gone onto cm10
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I've been running 10 for a few days now and it's pretty sweet. Definitely has a ways to go, but CM9 RC2 is quite stable, so I almost think CM9 & 10 will in essence become just CM10, and that's were all the focus will be.
Personally, I'd be very happy with that. I can't believe how far cm10 has come in such a short amount of time. Team Chopsticks have done an amazing job with ICS and now JB.
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I've had my sprint gnex for about a week now. maybe two weeks, I forget. Anyway, 4.0.4 ICS is mind-blowing compared to 2.3.5 that I had on my rooted S-on Evo 4g (I did de-bloat the stock rom). The fact that it's not a Sense or TouchWiz rom is the best part of all, and really I find that I have no desired functionality that would require rooting or flashing of any kind. However... a lot of the additions in JB look really awesome and I'd like to check into those at some point in the near future. I'm comfortable with the idea of rooting and flashing. After I rooted my Evo I may have actually laughed out loud for being as paranoid and anxious as I was.
Here's my concern: after trudging through the sprint gnex dev forum, there's a lot of roms and kernels available. At this point I'm not so concerned with a kernel, but I'd like some help narrowing down the options to one or maybe two roms to get started with. Basically I'm looking for one that's as close to what Google would give me if they were releasing to sprint devices. I would also be cool with one that's as close to what sprint might release in an official OTA.
I was never crazy about trying CM roms (or other AOSP based ones for that matter) on the Evo just because I wasn't crazy about having to flash back and forth between stock roms for PRLs and profiles. I'm not sure how often that would really have to be done, but I won't consider that a deal breaker if it gets me into an ideal rom.
CM10 + faux kernel
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I've had my sprint gnex for about a week now. maybe two weeks, I forget. Anyway, 4.0.4 ICS is mind-blowing compared to 2.3.5 that I had on my rooted S-on Evo 4g (I did de-bloat the stock rom). The fact that it's not a Sense or TouchWiz rom is the best part of all, and really I find that I have no desired functionality that would require rooting or flashing of any kind. However... a lot of the additions in JB look really awesome and I'd like to check into those at some point in the near future. I'm comfortable with the idea of rooting and flashing. After I rooted my Evo I may have actually laughed out loud for being as paranoid and anxious as I was.
Here's my concern: after trudging through the sprint gnex dev forum, there's a lot of roms and kernels available. At this point I'm not so concerned with a kernel, but I'd like some help narrowing down the options to one or maybe two roms to get started with. Basically I'm looking for one that's as close to what Google would give me if they were releasing to sprint devices. I would also be cool with one that's as close to what sprint might release in an official OTA.
I was never crazy about trying CM roms (or other AOSP based ones for that matter) on the Evo just because I wasn't crazy about having to flash back and forth between stock roms for PRLs and profiles. I'm not sure how often that would really have to be done, but I won't consider that a deal breaker if it gets me into an ideal rom.
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MMuzzy's AOSP is as close to OTA stock as you'll find. In both form and build quality.
Like the above, CM10 is as stock as you'll find. There are other very close to stock with internal performance tuning.
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For a standard custom experience. Go CM.
I suggest Eclipse or Paradigm for beyond.
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I don't know about other jb ROMs, but unlike cm7 on the evo (which i used to have as well) cm10 allows you to do prl and profile updates in the about phone menu.
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paranoidandroid with trinity kernel...
If you want stock the best one is RUJellin by shabbypenguin and dreamsforgott3n. They had it ported and running without problems less than24 hours after source. Plus they're super cool and the thread is pretty chill.
CM10 for sure. Stock cm kernel. Its the most polished looking room for xure
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Ok, definitely seeing a lot of love for CM so I'll be researching that one for sure. If that doesn't pique my interest I'll start checking out some of the other ones mentioned as well. You can probably expect a few more questions in this thread before I actually dive into anything, though
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Ok, definitely seeing a lot of love for CM so I'll be researching that one for sure. If that doesn't pique my interest I'll start checking out some of the other ones mentioned as well. You can probably expect a few more questions in this thread before I actually dive into anything, though
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I prefer AOKP to CM, but the last few AOKP builds have been horrible on battery and in terms of someone wanting a custom experience and not really knowing what they want, I point them to CM.
paranoidandroid is just cm10 with more options lol
I'm trying to be a good forum member and search out my own answers before posting them, but I'm having a bit of trouble finding much info about CM10 from their own website. First of all, they don't have a subforum for the samsung gnex at all (just the google variant), and most of what I have skimmed across on the forums seems to be related to either CM 7 or 9. Should I be looking in the Google Galaxy Nexus CDMA forum over there? Do we have much here on xda for CM10 aside from a dev thread?
Still need to look at paranoidandroid, I'm not opposed to a few extra options on top of what CM10 has already
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Paranoid looks like awesome, like the ability to use the tablet UI, but I think I'll wait for that one to mature a little more since I'm just getting started with roms!
I'm also gonna have to say mmuzzy's stock AOSP ROM. It's what we would have had from Google if we had AOSP support, IMO.
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I'm running vanilla rootbox 2.2 which is also pure android with AOKP bits. To be honest it hasn't even been 24 hours since I flashed that ROM but it's been running very stable. I just can't say anything about battery life yet.
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I love the win7 experience with the Android customization in the background
No need to swap out different roms.
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I am new to the root world and would like to get some advice on what I should run on my phone. I am currently running cm9 stable but am having some issues. So I don't know where to go from here.
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Hello
I am new to the root world and would like to get some advice on what I should run on my phone. I am currently running cm9 stable but am having some issues. So I don't know where to go from here.
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Try other ROM!
You will get the best ROM in your opinion
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I see a lot of posters here cheer for CleanGB so you might wanna check that out, as for me I always like to try the latest so now I'm sticking with CM10.1 preview!
The People's ROM is a good ROM. So is CM10 stable. But I'm running latest CM10.1 ROM and its amazing.
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eoliver12332 said:
Hello
I am new to the root world and would like to get some advice on what I should run on my phone. I am currently running cm9 stable but am having some issues. So I don't know where to go from here.
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The Peoples Rom is a solid Rom with great battery life. All the CM roms have been great for me and CM10.1 is no exception, but I'd try a few to see what you like best.
Now should I just run the custom kernel and modem that comes with the cm rom? I'm having issues with mms and Wi-Fi tether
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NEVER ask what's the best ROM!
They ALL are for the users that use them. No one can tell you what is the best for YOU. You need to read and decide for yourself if a ROM suits you.
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Now should I just run the custom kernel and modem that comes with the cm rom? I'm having issues with mms and Wi-Fi tether
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Your modem does not change but the kernel will. The one that comes with CM10.1 is a 3.xxx based kernel and is smooth. I'd recommend running the rom as is for a few days and see how you like it.
I agree with you Kenny, but what an amazing work! everything is fast & fluid, colors are vibrant and beautiful.. I have been hanging around Epic forums for more than a year and this is the first time I saw something like this! you really had put a lot of work behind this, well done :good:
Been lurking and playing for a while now...
First off, I'm really impressed with the work the developers do here! OMG, it's giving my Epic new life and more. My wife like my phone so much, she asked me to root hers and put JB on it!
That being said, there's really a lot of choices, and almost every ROM makes a good daily driver. The question is what your threshold is for having things you're willing to put up with to get the cool new features these ROMs provide.
Here's my experience in the last 4 months - I started with CM9, and while I really liked it, I had some issues where it seemed to run hot at times. I added all the build.prop tweaks for increasing battery life, and once the stable version came out, I was pretty stoked. After a couple of weeks, I tried CM10 nightlies (my current ROM, 2013-01-20. I LOVE it! I added the 4.2 gapps camera and Gallery to enhance it a bit).
I expected the worst, because I work with developers and the term "nightlies" is never something we show to the public. In reality, aside from some initial issues with rebooting on earlier builds, it's been awesome.
This past couple of weeks, I decided to check out the waters and tried CM 10.1, and ran it for over two weeks - even put it on my wife's phone. It was like buttah until it randomly rebooted in the middle of a business call. I figure, once it goes to nightlies, I'll try it out again. Still itching, I tried ParanoidAndroid 4.1.2, and also AOKP Alpha 4.2.1 build. Both builds were stable and pretty polished, but battery life was better with CM10 - at least for the time-being. If you like to have lots of control over how your phone looks and acts, you can't go wrong with either ROM. I went back to CM10 mostly because it runs everything, especially Dead Space, which I couldn't get to work on any other ROM.
So, there's not really a "best" - it depends on what you want, and can put up with if there are issues.