Hi all, I've done a fair bit of searching and reading up but not sure I can find definitive answers to whether there are any downsides to rooting my One X.
I am thinking similar to tethered jailbreaks in the iOS world, where if you run out of juice you have to cable up to get it to boot up etc.
I would like to root, so I have the freedom to use a few of the tweaks and mods on xda (such as the tweak to change the default - read too high - auto brightness levels), not sure I will actually replace my entire rom at this stage, just root so I can use some of these minor tweaks.
so, is there anything that I need to genuinely consider before making the leap, some specific questions that spring to mind are;
1. Can I always easily revert it ?
2. Read some posts where people are struggling to charge once it hits 0% ? Is this an actual problem if I just root ? I do not want to brick a phone or have to prize open the case to take batteries out etc
3. If I chose to replace ROM's in the future, are there actual apps that more or less backup all your apps and settings so you can just reload that one app after a new ROM is installed, restore a backup and I am good to go, or do you have to manually setup everything from scratch again ?
Thanks for any advice you guys can offer.
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The only downside to rooting is you get hooked on flashing. It's very easy to get back to stock. As long as you have proper RUU for your region that goes with your CID and all is fine.
At present, the only rooting method involves unlocking the bootloader. It can be locked again. But it's 'relocked' rather than 'locked'. So your warranty is still void in some cases.
I'm waiting for root method which doesn't require an unlocked bootloader. Or non HTCDEV Unlocked bootloader and S-OFF before I do mine, but that's just me
Sentinel196 said:
So your warranty is still void in some cases
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HTC will only refuse your warranty if you balls up your phone as a result of flashing roms. Everything else such as hardware defects will leave the warranty in tact.
Hi yall
Soon I will recive my One X... And I want to root it, and flash a custom rom... What is the correct procedure to get the warranty back on this handset??
BR
Ratata82 said:
Hi yall
Soon I will recive my One X... And I want to root it, and flash a custom rom... What is the correct procedure to get the warranty back on this handset??
BR
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Root your phone first and then talk about warranty mate..The best thing for you is to wait for an S-OFF exploit if you worried about the warranty.
Read this thread for a better understanding before you go ahead with things
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1603905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_One_X
Nothing.
Your warranty is unaffected regardless of whether or not you root. The only condition under which your warranty is invalid is if your custom software causes a hardware failure (An insane overclock for example).
The idea that HTC can completely invalidate your warranty just for unlocking the bootloader is a myth that many people believe.
hi, I have been reading a lot about S-OFF how to, but I've read too much & I'm kinda confused right now, can someone help me through if I can get S-OFF, & post me link for the thread I have to read & do exactly.
is it even possible yet?
if not, then what all those threads are talking about?
& if it helps, this's the one X I have
x.xx.707.x - Asia WWE (World Wide English)
No there is still no way to get S-Off on the HOX. The only way to install a custom rom is via HTCdev but then you'll lose the warranty.
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No there is still no way to get S-Off on the HOX. The only way to install a custom rom is via HTCdev but then you'll lose the warranty.
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R U sure about HTCdev???? I'm not talking about bootloader off, I'm talking about S-OFF
mehras1991 said:
hi, I have been reading a lot about S-OFF how to, but I've read too much & I'm kinda confused right now, can someone help me through if I can get S-OFF, & post me link for the thread I have to read & do exactly.
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If you read about S-Off on the correct forums (i.e related to One X) then you would know that its not possible yet.
mehras1991 said:
is it even possible yet?
if not, then what all those threads are talking about?
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What threads ?? Read this and this to find out the current progress in obtaining S-OFF.
PhoenixFx said:
If you read about S-Off on the correct forums (i.e related to One X) then you would know that its not possible yet.
What threads ?? Read this and this to find out the current progress in obtaining S-OFF.
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thanks,
so what flashing files on this thread does?
sory if I'm asking basic questions, I moved from motorola & I didn't have such problem on their devices
mehras1991 said:
thanks,
so what flashing files on this thread does?
sory if I'm asking basic questions, I moved from motorola & I didn't have such problem on their devices
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Ignore that thread, don't flash the files. It's for people who know what they're doing. Like it says, bricking is possible.
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Ok. I am a noob and a little confused.
So, if I root, I get access to entire operating system files. This enables me to make a full back-up of my phone. Am I right in assuming that I can root without unlocking the bootloader?
If I unlock the bootloader, I am able to load another version of android made by Cynagenmod and others. Can I unlock the bootloader without root or when I unlock it from HTC Dev, it roots my phone automatically? Also, if I do not load any other ROM, will I still be able to get HTC updates?
Where in all this is S-off? I understand that while unlocking the bootloader, HTC Dev still has some locked parts of the OS which is inaccessible due to S-on, but when we root the phone, doesn't it provide access to the locked partitions/files?
Apologies for the basic questions, would appreciate all help.
akhileshp said:
Ok. I am a noob and a little confused.
So, if I root, I get access to entire operating system files. This enables me to make a full back-up of my phone. Am I right in assuming that I can root without unlocking the bootloader?
If I unlock the bootloader, I am able to load another version of android made by Cynagenmod and others. Can I unlock the bootloader without root or when I unlock it from HTC Dev, it roots my phone automatically? Also, if I do not load any other ROM, will I still be able to get HTC updates?
Where in all this is S-off? I understand that while unlocking the bootloader, HTC Dev still has some locked parts of the OS which is inaccessible due to S-on, but when we root the phone, doesn't it provide access to the locked partitions/files?
Apologies for the basic questions, would appreciate all help.
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You can't root yet without unlocking bootloader. You can load other versions of Android (there is no official Cyanogenmod yet, but there are quite a few CM9 and AOKP builds in the dev sections). Unlocking via HTCdev does not auto-root. You can relock after unlocking to get official updates.
Rooting doesn't give us access to being able to write to these partitions. That's what we want from S-OFF.
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You can't root yet without unlocking bootloader. You can load other versions of Android (there is no official Cyanogenmod yet, but there are quite a few CM9 and AOKP builds in the dev sections). Unlocking via HTCdev does not auto-root. You can relock after unlocking to get official updates.
Rooting doesn't give us access to being able to write to these partitions. That's what we want from S-OFF.
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Thank you so much. Much appreciated.
So to confirm, I have to unlock the bootloader from HTC Dev first, then try the method at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167 to root. I may not want to load the other custom builds right now, I'm still waiting for the Jb/4.0.4 update and also my warranty to run out. In the meantime, figuring out what is what and how it works, although I doubt I will be able to wait out another 9 months.
akhileshp said:
Thank you so much. Much appreciated.
So to confirm, I have to unlock the bootloader from HTC Dev first, then try the method at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167 to root. I may not want to load the other custom builds right now, I'm still waiting for the Jb/4.0.4 update and also my warranty to run out. In the meantime, figuring out what is what and how it works, although I doubt I will be able to wait out another 9 months.
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Firstly, HTCdev unlock will void the warranty, you can search other threads for this. Secondly, that thread is for the HTC One XL (Qualcomm Snapdragon LTE), which is a completely different model to the international HOX (Tegra 3), so you don't want to use that. Here's the correct thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1577671
HTCdev unlock also wipes your phone, so you might as well load up a new rom which is already rooted.
Also, if you do decide to HTCdev unlock, make sure you load a new recovery up.I recommend CWM recovery, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594819
Immediately after you do that, take a backup from CWM recovery.
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Firstly, HTCdev unlock will void the warranty, you can search other threads for this. Secondly, that thread is for the HTC One XL (Qualcomm Snapdragon LTE), which is a completely different model to the international HOX (Tegra 3), so you don't want to use that.
HTCdev unlock also wipes your phone, so you might as well load up a new rom which is already rooted.
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Yup, read about the void warranty bit. And I also noticed that the thread is headed for the One XL, however, it still does show up in the home page of the International One X.
And I get the point about the new ROM. Given I have no hw problems with my phone and i've had it since early april, i reckon I might unlock it this wknd and load up another rom. Thanks again.
akhileshp said:
Yup, read about the void warranty bit. And I also noticed that the thread is headed for the One XL, however, it still does show up in the home page of the International One X.
And I get the point about the new ROM. Given I have no hw problems with my phone and i've had it since early april, i reckon I might unlock it this wknd and load up another rom. Thanks again.
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I edited my last post with some more helpful info.
Hi there,
I've recently learned that the only way to be able to truly customize my phone is through rooting it. However this is a process Im not so familiar with and something I've heard can end up badly. Now I've watched a couple of video's on youtube about what to do and how to do it. But I have one major question. In each video I seem to watch, none of them are the developer edition. I remember reading, before purchasing the phone, that the developer edition came with an unlocked bootloader? Of which I am not certain as to what that is. But each time, in the videos, they go to the HTCdev website to request the bootloader to be unlocked or something of the sort. I also read somewhere by doing that, they are able to cross-reference the fact you've rooted your phone and deny complete warranty replacements. That is assuming you did root your phone in the end. My main concern is losing this warranty, I do not wish to void it at all, and by registering that you have kind of puts me off rooting my device. But then I began thinking, my bootloader is already unlocked, does this mean I don't have to register with that HTCdev website? and will this mean I can root it without them knowing, so I am then able to restore it (Of which i will need to learn) and get it replaced if something is to happen to my phone?
I know there are a lot of questions involved in this post! Sorry if i'm asking ridiculous things, but I am new to this kind of stuff!
Cheers,
Exactly, you're bootloader is already unlocked . all you really need to do is push a custom recovery to be rooted.
Here is all you need for customizing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694600
Here is for rooting and other things.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699065
Here is the guide for adb and fastboot, which gonna be useful and essential for customization.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
Please, please, PLEASE read instructions so you won't mess up your m8!
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Hey everyone,
I've tried to google around and search the forums on XDA but there is no straight up answer to some questions I have. This is the first HTC device I own and although I have been rooting/unlocking devices since the Nexus 4, I am afraid to go ahead with this one. I just wanted the answers to the following questions, if anyone here knows them please:
1. Unlocking the bootloader seems straight-forward and supported by HTC. I'm in the UK which means no Uh-Oh protection. If something was to happen to the device and I sent it back under warranty, would I be ****ed or would HTC replace/repair it? HTC UK's call center was worse than useless and HTC US' policy doesn't apply to us so I thought I should ask here.
2. Does unlocking the bootloader and rooting mean I will lose access to the fingerprint scanner, camera quality or anything 'stock'? I know Android Pay won't work but at the moment I am not too bothered either way because it's a hit and miss thing with it.
3. Finally, is there a way to completely revert unlocking the phone/s-off and going back to S-ON/Locked without any signs of having messed around with the device? I ask in relation to question 1. If unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty for UK users, is there a way to go back to stock and make the phone as though NOTHING was done to it?
Thank you to anyone who helps answer even 1 of these questions :victory:. I want to root and get xposed onto my new device but not at the cost of losing features on a brand new phone or losing warranty on it either :silly:
1. I can't comment on this simply because I don't know and don't want to spread false information.
2. You will not lose any features at all. In fact, I'm running a bootloader unlocked and rooted setup and Android Pay still seems to work fine for me. It let me add a debit card but I haven't yet been able to actually try to purchase something.
3. Yes, if you are S-Off you can completely revert back to a locked bootloader with S-On if you want to.
I'd recommend both unlocking and S-Off so you can revert back to stock in the future for a warranty claim just to be safe.
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1. I can't comment on this simply because I don't know and don't want to spread false information.
2. You will not lose any features at all. In fact, I'm running a bootloader unlocked and rooted setup and Android Pay still seems to work fine for me. It let me add a debit card but I haven't yet been able to actually try to purchase something.
3. Yes, if you are S-Off you can completely revert back to a locked bootloader with S-On if you want to.
I'd recommend both unlocking and S-Off so you can revert back to stock in the future for a warranty claim just to be safe.
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Hey, thanks for the reply! Only just saw this, not sure why it didn't notify me.
Right no worries about point one seeing as point 3 makes it irrelevant if I can revert back and save my warranty anyway. Just to be sure on points 2 and 3, I can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On status and the system won't show I have messed around at all? As for Android Pay, that's cool! Did you set it up before or after rooting? And does your fingerprint scanner work? Can you make payments on google play by authorising with your fingerprint?
Thank you again for your help!
Devzz said:
Hey, thanks for the reply! Only just saw this, not sure why it didn't notify me.
Right no worries about point one seeing as point 3 makes it irrelevant if I can revert back and save my warranty anyway. Just to be sure on points 2 and 3, I can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On status and the system won't show I have messed around at all? As for Android Pay, that's cool! Did you set it up before or after rooting? And does your fingerprint scanner work? Can you make payments on google play by authorising with your fingerprint?
Thank you again for your help!
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Yep, you can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On state assuming you were previously S-Off. There will be no signs that the device was messed with.
For Android Pay, I had initially set it up prior to rooting but the rooting process wiped my phone. I had no issues setting it up again on a freshly rooted install.
Google Play and every other app that uses it still fully supports authorization via fingerprint. From what I can tell, I have lost absolutely no features by rooting. There really is nothing to lose once you get past the initial phone wipe that occurs when you unlock the bootloader.
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Yep, you can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On state assuming you were previously S-Off. There will be no signs that the device was messed with.
For Android Pay, I had initially set it up prior to rooting but the rooting process wiped my phone. I had no issues setting it up again on a freshly rooted install.
Google Play and every other app that uses it still fully supports authorization via fingerprint. From what I can tell, I have lost absolutely no features by rooting. There really is nothing to lose once you get past the initial phone wipe that occurs when you unlock the bootloader.
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Ah that's great! Would've thought HTC would implement some kind of security thing where rooting may cause the fingerprint scanner to not work like Samsung/Sony have. Good on HTC :highfive: I'm gonna start reading up now and unlock/s-off/root the phone in the next few hours! :fingers-crossed:
Devzz said:
Ah that's great! Would've thought HTC would implement some kind of security thing where rooting may cause the fingerprint scanner to not work like Samsung/Sony have. Good on HTC :highfive: I'm gonna start reading up now and unlock/s-off/root the phone in the next few hours! :fingers-crossed:
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Yeah, it really is a great thing they've done! HTC is being really friendly to developers and power users. If you have questions or need some help with the unlocking or rooting feel free to drop me a PM!