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[Q] Are there any downsides to rooting ?

Hi all, I've done a fair bit of searching and reading up but not sure I can find definitive answers to whether there are any downsides to rooting my One X.
I am thinking similar to tethered jailbreaks in the iOS world, where if you run out of juice you have to cable up to get it to boot up etc.
I would like to root, so I have the freedom to use a few of the tweaks and mods on xda (such as the tweak to change the default - read too high - auto brightness levels), not sure I will actually replace my entire rom at this stage, just root so I can use some of these minor tweaks.
so, is there anything that I need to genuinely consider before making the leap, some specific questions that spring to mind are;
1. Can I always easily revert it ?
2. Read some posts where people are struggling to charge once it hits 0% ? Is this an actual problem if I just root ? I do not want to brick a phone or have to prize open the case to take batteries out etc
3. If I chose to replace ROM's in the future, are there actual apps that more or less backup all your apps and settings so you can just reload that one app after a new ROM is installed, restore a backup and I am good to go, or do you have to manually setup everything from scratch again ?
Thanks for any advice you guys can offer.
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The only downside to rooting is you get hooked on flashing. It's very easy to get back to stock. As long as you have proper RUU for your region that goes with your CID and all is fine.

At present, the only rooting method involves unlocking the bootloader. It can be locked again. But it's 'relocked' rather than 'locked'. So your warranty is still void in some cases.
I'm waiting for root method which doesn't require an unlocked bootloader. Or non HTCDEV Unlocked bootloader and S-OFF before I do mine, but that's just me

Sentinel196 said:
So your warranty is still void in some cases
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HTC will only refuse your warranty if you balls up your phone as a result of flashing roms. Everything else such as hardware defects will leave the warranty in tact.

Rooting Europe HTC One X .. Help please

Can anyone help me to root my Europe HTC One X phone please.
Also will it void my HTC warranty ?
I am not interested in unlocking the bootloader as i know this does void the warranty.
Thanks for any replies

At present you have to unlock via HTC-Dev.
That is the only way.

The only way to root the phone is by unlocking the bootloader, so unfortunately if you do not want to do this, you cannot root your phone.
I was worried I'd mess up and brick my phone whilst rooting, but everything worked OK.
Rooting the phone by unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty.

Thanks for the answers guys.
I will have to keep it stock then.
I am with vodaphone for the next 10-11 months so need to keep it stock for warranty purposes

jacko5 said:
Thanks for the answers guys.
I will have to keep it stock then.
I am with vodaphone for the next 10-11 months so need to keep it stock for warranty purposes
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I'd go for it.
Just read up beforehand. If anything does go wrong, you can always look here for support, it's quite hard to brick your phone now, and even if you do, there are ways to recover it.
Check out aphroditelikesme's (Cursed4Eva) video on YouTube about how to do it entitled 'Root the HTC One X - Part 1/2 - Unlocking the Bootloader' (I can't post links yet) it is very easy to follow. He also has a video on how to unroot the phone and lock the bootloader.
If you do decide to go ahead:
Watch, and re-watch the video
Prepare everything
Make sure you have about 20 minutes where you can work without being disturbed
Follow the video

[S-OFF] Possible!! how to?

hi, I have been reading a lot about S-OFF how to, but I've read too much & I'm kinda confused right now, can someone help me through if I can get S-OFF, & post me link for the thread I have to read & do exactly.
is it even possible yet?
if not, then what all those threads are talking about?
& if it helps, this's the one X I have
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No there is still no way to get S-Off on the HOX. The only way to install a custom rom is via HTCdev but then you'll lose the warranty.

duk3r said:
No there is still no way to get S-Off on the HOX. The only way to install a custom rom is via HTCdev but then you'll lose the warranty.
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R U sure about HTCdev???? I'm not talking about bootloader off, I'm talking about S-OFF

mehras1991 said:
hi, I have been reading a lot about S-OFF how to, but I've read too much & I'm kinda confused right now, can someone help me through if I can get S-OFF, & post me link for the thread I have to read & do exactly.
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If you read about S-Off on the correct forums (i.e related to One X) then you would know that its not possible yet.
mehras1991 said:
is it even possible yet?
if not, then what all those threads are talking about?
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What threads ?? Read this and this to find out the current progress in obtaining S-OFF.

PhoenixFx said:
If you read about S-Off on the correct forums (i.e related to One X) then you would know that its not possible yet.
What threads ?? Read this and this to find out the current progress in obtaining S-OFF.
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thanks,
so what flashing files on this thread does?
sory if I'm asking basic questions, I moved from motorola & I didn't have such problem on their devices

mehras1991 said:
thanks,
so what flashing files on this thread does?
sory if I'm asking basic questions, I moved from motorola & I didn't have such problem on their devices
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Ignore that thread, don't flash the files. It's for people who know what they're doing. Like it says, bricking is possible.
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Ok. I am a noob and a little confused.
So, if I root, I get access to entire operating system files. This enables me to make a full back-up of my phone. Am I right in assuming that I can root without unlocking the bootloader?
If I unlock the bootloader, I am able to load another version of android made by Cynagenmod and others. Can I unlock the bootloader without root or when I unlock it from HTC Dev, it roots my phone automatically? Also, if I do not load any other ROM, will I still be able to get HTC updates?
Where in all this is S-off? I understand that while unlocking the bootloader, HTC Dev still has some locked parts of the OS which is inaccessible due to S-on, but when we root the phone, doesn't it provide access to the locked partitions/files?
Apologies for the basic questions, would appreciate all help.

akhileshp said:
Ok. I am a noob and a little confused.
So, if I root, I get access to entire operating system files. This enables me to make a full back-up of my phone. Am I right in assuming that I can root without unlocking the bootloader?
If I unlock the bootloader, I am able to load another version of android made by Cynagenmod and others. Can I unlock the bootloader without root or when I unlock it from HTC Dev, it roots my phone automatically? Also, if I do not load any other ROM, will I still be able to get HTC updates?
Where in all this is S-off? I understand that while unlocking the bootloader, HTC Dev still has some locked parts of the OS which is inaccessible due to S-on, but when we root the phone, doesn't it provide access to the locked partitions/files?
Apologies for the basic questions, would appreciate all help.
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You can't root yet without unlocking bootloader. You can load other versions of Android (there is no official Cyanogenmod yet, but there are quite a few CM9 and AOKP builds in the dev sections). Unlocking via HTCdev does not auto-root. You can relock after unlocking to get official updates.
Rooting doesn't give us access to being able to write to these partitions. That's what we want from S-OFF.

ZrC said:
You can't root yet without unlocking bootloader. You can load other versions of Android (there is no official Cyanogenmod yet, but there are quite a few CM9 and AOKP builds in the dev sections). Unlocking via HTCdev does not auto-root. You can relock after unlocking to get official updates.
Rooting doesn't give us access to being able to write to these partitions. That's what we want from S-OFF.
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Thank you so much. Much appreciated.
So to confirm, I have to unlock the bootloader from HTC Dev first, then try the method at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167 to root. I may not want to load the other custom builds right now, I'm still waiting for the Jb/4.0.4 update and also my warranty to run out. In the meantime, figuring out what is what and how it works, although I doubt I will be able to wait out another 9 months.

akhileshp said:
Thank you so much. Much appreciated.
So to confirm, I have to unlock the bootloader from HTC Dev first, then try the method at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167 to root. I may not want to load the other custom builds right now, I'm still waiting for the Jb/4.0.4 update and also my warranty to run out. In the meantime, figuring out what is what and how it works, although I doubt I will be able to wait out another 9 months.
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Firstly, HTCdev unlock will void the warranty, you can search other threads for this. Secondly, that thread is for the HTC One XL (Qualcomm Snapdragon LTE), which is a completely different model to the international HOX (Tegra 3), so you don't want to use that. Here's the correct thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1577671
HTCdev unlock also wipes your phone, so you might as well load up a new rom which is already rooted.
Also, if you do decide to HTCdev unlock, make sure you load a new recovery up.I recommend CWM recovery, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594819
Immediately after you do that, take a backup from CWM recovery.

ZrC said:
Firstly, HTCdev unlock will void the warranty, you can search other threads for this. Secondly, that thread is for the HTC One XL (Qualcomm Snapdragon LTE), which is a completely different model to the international HOX (Tegra 3), so you don't want to use that.
HTCdev unlock also wipes your phone, so you might as well load up a new rom which is already rooted.
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Yup, read about the void warranty bit. And I also noticed that the thread is headed for the One XL, however, it still does show up in the home page of the International One X.
And I get the point about the new ROM. Given I have no hw problems with my phone and i've had it since early april, i reckon I might unlock it this wknd and load up another rom. Thanks again.

akhileshp said:
Yup, read about the void warranty bit. And I also noticed that the thread is headed for the One XL, however, it still does show up in the home page of the International One X.
And I get the point about the new ROM. Given I have no hw problems with my phone and i've had it since early april, i reckon I might unlock it this wknd and load up another rom. Thanks again.
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I edited my last post with some more helpful info.

[Q] Preparing to root

Hello everyone, I am very new to all of this so please have patience with my noobness. I have heard of people rooting their devices, and flashing custom ROMs and what not. I really like the look of cyanogenmod, and the functionality it would bring to my locked up AT&T HTC One M8. I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708628 thread that seems like a pretty promising and easy method to achieve root, S-off, and an unlocked boot loader. I almost went through with it today, but I really wanted to be more prepared. I am most scared about bricking my phone while it is still on contract and being stuck without a phone until march when my contract expires.
Basically what I want to know is is it possible to brick your device just by chance? Say I followed a trusted guide, did everything down to the dot, is there still a chance that my device could get bricked just by chance?
Also what are things that I should avoid to prevent getting bricked? Any veteran tips for a newbie? Anyway, thank you for your patience and help!

Hackentosher said:
Hello everyone, I am very new to all of this so please have patience with my noobness. I have heard of people rooting their devices, and flashing custom ROMs and what not. I really like the look of cyanogenmod, and the functionality it would bring to my locked up AT&T HTC One M8. I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708628 thread that seems like a pretty promising and easy method to achieve root, S-off, and an unlocked boot loader. I almost went through with it today, but I really wanted to be more prepared. I am most scared about bricking my phone while it is still on contract and being stuck without a phone until march when my contract expires.
Basically what I want to know is is it possible to brick your device just by chance? Say I followed a trusted guide, did everything down to the dot, is there still a chance that my device could get bricked just by chance?
Also what are things that I should avoid to prevent getting bricked? Any veteran tips for a newbie? Anyway, thank you for your patience and help!
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I would spend more time searching and understanding the phone first...Yes you can have a $600 bricked phone. Rooting is not hard, but there are always risks. Educate yourself thoroughly first, then make a decision.
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I agree with GalaxyNotes, though it is rare to brick your phone just from rooting, its possible. You are more likely to brick it trying to flash an incompatible rom or kernal. Also there is ALMOST always a way to repair your phone should you hard/soft brick it. Spend a little more time researching and if you have questions a long the way there are people here who will help you out.

That first root/unlock/flash is always to most agonizing. Like everyone said take your time. If you don't understand something just a little bit, ask. Also the best thing to do is get your system unlocked and custom recovery installed so you can get your current image backed up. That way you have a known good working copy of your current system and pretty much makes you brick-proof. I've downloaded and have all necessary files etc. to root my device but I'm waiting on my warranty period to end. I just don't want to deal with customer service if something happens to my phone and I'm unlocked. I've seen people have no problems and others all kinds of problems trying to get service after unlocking.
Good luck.

I would recommend not going to CM. Not that CM isn't great, it's just not that great on our phones. The general concensus is Sense > GPE > CM/AOSP. Of course it's not like this for all devices... It's just that HTC does a VERY good job with Sense. You just can't beat it's features and stability. I've gone the route of switching to AOSP and GPE, but always ended up going back because it just felt like it was lacking something. To each their own of course, but I just wanted to share my 2¢.

So, does root exists for Nokia 8.1?

Hi All.
Was searching everywhere last week and can not find the definite answer. I was thinking to buy the Nokia 8.1 TA-1119 model. However I am a developer and need root, so was trying to figure out if root procedure already exists for this phone.
There are some pages which give some root instructions, however they talk about installing the TWRP and as I checked, there is no TWRP for Nokia 8.1
So, would so much appreciate, if someone would give me some info, if root can be achieved on this phone?

While something is definitely possible and I have a rooted Nokia 8.1. But for your root requirements, I'd recommend that you consider some other phone which is more development-friendly.
First of all, it is super hard (playing with IMEI numbers and will have to pay), then the unlocked bootloader still doesn't allow booting or flashing any partitions via fastboot. So, pretty boring and it is equally hard to fix a bricked phone. Avoid if the sole purpose is an unlocked bootloader and regular rooting/flashing.

singhnsk said:
While something is definitely possible and I have a rooted Nokia 8.1. But for your root requirements, I'd recommend that you consider some other phone which is more development-friendly.
First of all, it is super hard (playing with IMEI numbers and will have to pay), then the unlocked bootloader still doesn't allow booting or flashing any partitions via fastboot. So, pretty boring and it is equally hard to fix a bricked phone. Avoid if the sole purpose is an unlocked bootloader and regular rooting/flashing.
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Yes you are right. but some one should start on this. I am looking forward to learn and build ROM for this awesome phone. as android app developer, I think I will not take much time, but looking for some source to get undetstanding how things works.
but first of all root is must.