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My defy slowed down after installing few apps ?

defy became laggy after installing say hardly 10 apps ?
i rooted and installed vibrafix can it b cause ?
also can flashing again and again cause anything to phone ?
It became so laggy that my Galaxy fit was feeling fast with few apps installed

It could be vibrafix...
I think it's time for you to go CUSTOM
CMIUI 2.0 my recommendation

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strikoo said:
It could be vibrafix...
I think it's time for you to go CUSTOM
CMIUI 2.0 my recommendation
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haha ya but ill go later...on that coz m not so sure at this point of time...about modding nd all..

Stock ROMS have motoblur which can be helpful but it's harsh on hardware so when you start to install things and consuming more memory the phone starts to behave really slow, my Stock rom only last 1 day xD

OTA update from DFP-125 to DFP-231 gives you an unrootable phone

Hi all!
This is my very first post here, although i`m quite familiar with most topics related to our defy`s.
I`m starting this post because i need to share my experience with the latest and the greatest mistake I ever done since i have this phone, so all of you who are considering to update, be aware!
So, i flashed yesterday in my red-leans defy the GB 2.3.5 rom (to be more precise 4.5.1_DFP_125) and got this message from moto that there is an update to DFP 231. My rom was a bright clean one so the update process went smoothly and the result is a wonderful 4.5.1_DFP_231 rom with Bl 7 and unrootable (yet).
Although the rom is excellent and everything works as it should be (quite fast and great battery life for a full-blur rom), you must be aware that the absence of root limits almost all the fun part that the hardware of your defy (or defy+) is able to deliver. Keep this in mind before updating your bl6 (rootable) rom.
Sorry for another post on this topic but being new in this forum i`m not allowed to post in the development section of defy (where I firs intended to write).
A similar thread you can find here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523950 )
If somebody knows a way or will find a way to root all the new Bl7 roms, please share. Until then cheers from vazduh.

Being an android newbie and a Defy+ user, maybe my respond is irrelevant and sorry if it is.
My rom version was 6. I made the OTA update from DFP-125 to DFP-231, which also updated the boot.img, probably making it version 7? as you're saying.
Then I flashed a full DFP-125 sbf with version 6, and everything was fine. Rootable as ever.
So, the problem you're describing is that there is not a full sbf you can use for the first defy to do something like this or I'm totally missing the point? I though only a full sbf with CG31.smg could destroy the downgradeability.

i dont know what firmware i have before in my MB526, remember only android 2.3.6, my phone download 16mb via OTA and i have BL 7 and DFP-231. Can i try uptade sbf to DFP-125 ?

My phone had 2.3.5 when purchased.
I can flash this version 6 rom after the OTA update.
I wipe and use DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-125_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTES_P025_A023_M002_HWp3_WIG148097_Service1FF.sbf.
And everything goes factory default.
If you have flashed a version 7 full sbf, I think that the downgradeability is lost.

Why don't you guys try the ZergRush exploit or GingerBreak ?
Herpderp Defy.

not work for me, phone launch only DFP-188

Vazduh said:
Hi all!
This is my very first post here, although i`m quite familiar with most topics related to our defy`s.
I`m starting this post because i need to share my experience with the latest and the greatest mistake I ever done since i have this phone, so all of you who are considering to update, be aware!
So, i flashed yesterday in my red-leans defy the GB 2.3.5 rom (to be more precise 4.5.1_DFP_125) and got this message from moto that there is an update to DFP 231. My rom was a bright clean one so the update process went smoothly and the result is a wonderful 4.5.1_DFP_231 rom with Bl 7 and unrootable (yet).
Although the rom is excellent and everything works as it should be (quite fast and great battery life for a full-blur rom), you must be aware that the absence of root limits almost all the fun part that the hardware of your defy (or defy+) is able to deliver. Keep this in mind before updating your bl6 (rootable) rom.
Sorry for another post on this topic but being new in this forum i`m not allowed to post in the development section of defy (where I firs intended to write).
A similar thread you can find here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523950 )
If somebody knows a way or will find a way to root all the new Bl7 roms, please share. Until then cheers from vazduh.
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is your phone defy or defy+ ??? which variant ?? the post you have given has amused me cause as far as i know defy wasn't supposed to be upgraded to 2.3.6 . and u have only stated that you mobile is red lense defy that is also basic defy with bayers module variant but not defy+ . so kinda confused . can you tell which variant is urs ? is it defy with red lense ? or defy+ ?

From DFP 231 no downgrade just to 188
no root
no downgrade
(yet)
just wait

188 and 231 (or 2311 / 2312) are all on BL7, so downgrading 231 to 188 should be possible...
but there is no way to root these roms (for now)...
@joydeep:
i think he has got an defy+, cause there will never be an OTA to gingerbread on Defy
and i really have to say:
ON EVERY THREAD WITH UPGRADING TOPIC IS A BIG RED TEXT THAT DOWNGRADING / ROOTING IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR 188 AND UP

joydeep1985 said:
is your phone defy or defy+ ??? which variant ?? the post you have given has amused me cause as far as i know defy wasn't supposed to be upgraded to 2.3.6 . and u have only stated that you mobile is red lense defy that is also basic defy with bayers module variant but not defy+ . so kinda confused . can you tell which variant is urs ? is it defy with red lense ? or defy+ ?
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My phone is a regular defy with red leans, but after i flashed the defy+ oficial 2.3.5 ROM (DFP-125 for UK as i remember) i suppose that it "became" a defy+. This is why i received the OTA update message from moto to update to DFP 231 (which i know is a BL7 ROM). After the update process, i tried to root the phone with Superoneclick 2.3.3 and failed (never failed before, with previous ROMS). So my coclusion is that the 16 MB OTA update delivered me a 4.5.1 134 - DFP 231 rom which is not downgradeable and unrootable yet.
And yeah its amusing to now how easy can transform your defy into a defy plus (btw i didnt experienced any problems regarding battery indicator or camera issues. In fact the phone runs flawless after the update)

p4tgb said:
Being an android newbie and a Defy+ user, maybe my respond is irrelevant and sorry if it is.
My rom version was 6. I made the OTA update from DFP-125 to DFP-231, which also updated the boot.img, probably making it version 7? as you're saying.
Then I flashed a full DFP-125 sbf with version 6, and everything was fine. Rootable as ever.
So, the problem you're describing is that there is not a full sbf you can use for the first defy to do something like this or I'm totally missing the point? I though only a full sbf with CG31.smg could destroy the downgradeability.
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Strange. I myself tried to root the new OTA-updated 231 ROM and failed with every known method (known by google search at least), but i admit that i didnt try to re-flash the old 2.3.5 rom (451. 134 DFP 125) for the simple fact that a assumed it would be impossible, resulting in black screen. But i now have a full 231 UK sbf and perhaps would give a try to reflash 2.3.5 rom. It least this is what i understood from your post.
Cheers

DJ_Synergy said:
188 and 231 (or 2311 / 2312) are all on BL7, so downgrading 231 to 188 should be possible...
but there is no way to root these roms (for now)...
@joydeep:
i think he has got an defy+, cause there will never be an OTA to gingerbread on Defy
and i really have to say:
ON EVERY THREAD WITH UPGRADING TOPIC IS A BIG RED TEXT THAT DOWNGRADING / ROOTING IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR 188 AND UP
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its a defy RED lens regular, but because the hardware is identical with defy+ it was considered as a defy+. The only difference i know between the two phones is the battery (processor: OMAP 3630 but i know it says that defy has 3610 and defy+ 3620, no... its the same; GPU PowerVR SGX530, 512 RAM and so on)

I also have a regular defy in which I flashed the 2.3.5 Offical SBF so in a way it became a Defy +
I also received the OTA update, which changed the screen lock btw, and I noticed that it took away my root. I tried with Superoneclick 2.3.3 and 2.3.2 and they both failed. I also tried to flash the 2.3.5 Official SBF and it resulted in a black screen and wouldn't boot. So after 2 restless hours, I found the 2.3.6 rom and my phone was brought back to life.
But now I still have no root.. Does anyone have a solution?

CodeRedXM said:
I also have a regular defy in which I flashed the 2.3.5 Offical SBF so in a way it became a Defy +
I also received the OTA update, which changed the screen lock btw, and I noticed that it took away my root. I tried with Superoneclick 2.3.3 and 2.3.2 and they both failed. I also tried to flash the 2.3.5 Official SBF and it resulted in a black screen and wouldn't boot. So after 2 restless hours, I found the 2.3.6 rom and my phone was brought back to life.
But now I still have no root.. Does anyone have a solution?
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Not yet, and a I have a nasty feeling that we will have to wait a bit longer... As I read around the topic i understood that the new roms which have Bl7 came with a new script or something and this is why the old rooting methods didnt work. We need new stuff
On the other hand its a good rom, no complains about it, except root ofc. Keep digging

[Q] GB vs GB root vs ICS

Hello,
Had a quick question for anyone willing to give me a bit of feedback. I've been thinking about rooting my Xperia Play. I'm hesitant only because I don't want to get it if the functionality of ICS will be much of an improvement, if at all.
Should I stay with Gingerbread and wait to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich or should I root now and wait till the root for ICS is available in the future? I've been reading the forums here and found plenty of people trying the Beta ICS and it seems like it depends on the person whether they are fond of it or not. I'm certainly not wanting to Beta test ICS.
I'm looking for a kick in the right direction. I mean, I know I can unroot the phone if necessary I've seen forums about such, but it seems like an ordeal to root and then just to undo the root and I can tend to be a bit lazy. So should I stick with plain Gingerbread, wait to upgrade to ICS, or go and root my phone for the boost now in terms of power?
I use my Xperia Play as a phone, emulator, music player, and for general apps. Basically, just general recreation and it can certainly feel slow when just pulling up my texts on my phone. Let me know what you think is best.

Why would you need to unroot to upgrade to ICS? Just root now and upgrade when ICS is stable

An ordeal to root? The rooting methods are 1-click, it couldn't be easier

jacklebott said:
Why would you need to unroot to upgrade to ICS? Just root now and upgrade when ICS is stable
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Exactly bro! Root on gb will beunrooted if you upgrade to ics. I thnk you mess up infos about rooting and unlocking bootloader.
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Asking too many questions. If you wanted it, you would know you want it and you would have done it by now.
Stick with what you have. Wait for the official update. It'll be along soon I am sure

d31b0y said:
Asking too many questions. If you wanted it, you would know you want it and you would have done it by now.
Stick with what you have. Wait for the official update. It'll be along soon I am sure
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If you use DoomKernel with either the Official Sony Beta ICS or KA12 ICS beta roms you have Root.... if you flash KA12 it auto roots on install.....just FYI

Michealtbh said:
An ordeal to root? The rooting methods are 1-click, it couldn't be easier
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Don't think one click rooting methods are available if he is on the latest firmware..
correct me, if im wrong..

Gonna comment to the OP's question about the speed difference as someone who has now tried (1) the standard GB rom (on verizon, so 2.3.3), (2) a super-fast GB replacement (Cola), (3) the Sony stock ICS beta, as well as (4) a custom rom based on the ICS beta....
IMO aside from a couple of very specific cases (email on GB releases really slowing the phone down when connected to Exchange ActiveSync, for one), no version of ICS will ever be able to match the speed of GB on this phone. I'm sure that some custom ICS roms will be great, but a custom GB rom built for speed will still be able to win in the end.

I could not help but upgrade to ICS lol, My boot loader has been unlocked since the day I bought it but when the Beta was released and they made progress on it (WiFi, and stuff) I just could not help myself , Once you remove bloatware its really stable and smooth.

Suggestions Please

Ok. So it seems that the .587 ICS is hawt and i was thinking of upgrading to it from GB...
But could you please answer a few things-
1. Is it worth upgrading?
2. Why should i?
3. By removing all junk apps will it be smooth as GB (My friend's lagged alot)

I'll try to answer your questions:
1. It depends whether you want the new features that ICS offers. If you don't use you phone that much and like the speed it offers then stick with GB. Personally, I use the features. (And I like to have the latest software on everything I own, it doesn't matter if it slows it down or not :laugh
Here's a list of some of the features that ICS offers. http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/t...eatures-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-118969.
http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
Some of these can't be used on the arc because of no front facing camera or NFC
2. Think I answered two questions together ^. But all in all if you would use the newer features, and don't mind compromising speed. Also you will be able to install of the the newer xperia S apk's. More of the dev's are only working on ICS ROM's now.
3. Simply, no. It won't be as fast, even with all of the bloat removed. Some of the custom roms do get close, but they will still use more RAM than GB
Hope I helped. If you want, I'll try to explain some more :good:

Jon565G said:
I'll try to answer your questions:
1. It depends whether you want the new features that ICS offers. If you don't use you phone that much and like the speed it offers then stick with GB. Personally, I use the features. (And I like to have the latest software on everything I own, it doesn't matter if it slows it down or not :laugh
Here's a list of some of the features that ICS offers. http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/t...eatures-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-118969.
http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
Some of these can't be used on the arc because of no front facing camera or NFC
2. Think I answered two questions together ^. But all in all if you would use the newer features, and don't mind compromising speed. Also you will be able to install of the the newer xperia S apk's. More of the dev's are only working on ICS ROM's now.
3. Simply, no. It won't be as fast, even with all of the bloat removed. Some of the custom roms do get close, but they will still use more RAM than GB
Hope I helped. If you want, I'll try to explain some more :good:
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okkk thnx but then am really confused. should i. should i not...
tel me one thing. if i update it to ICS can i go back to GB by just normal flashing process?

Your choice
FIRST ICS was meant to run properly on devices with ram greater than 512mb. With only 512mb of ram it can only hold the necessary system applications of ANDROID. SO while running ICS on arc it RUNS SMOOTHLY FIRST but afterwards the apps get CACHED it starts lagging
REALLY LIKE HELL (with only 100-150mb ram gets left what do you expect its PERFORMANCE).SO i don't think that there is any possibility of running ICS smoothly forever on ARC.
JELLY BEAN on the other hand will also be requiring HIGH SPEC DEVICES..SO don't expect it also run without any lag on arc.
I don't know why SONY ERICSSON only put 512mb of ram in all it's 2011 xperia devices while also assuring to RUN OUT THE ICS UPDATE knowing the fact that ICS requires a higher RAM value.
I like the INTERFACE of ICS but to use it on the ARC IS TO GIVE UP the speed and performance.I used it for a month(tried every ics and cm9 rom)
but was too too UPSET. SO gone back to the GINGER BREAD ROM(it's best for the xperia arc).
TO USE ICS SMOOTHLY I SUGGEST TO BUY ANOTHER DEVICE WITH HIGH END SPECS.
SECOND IF you really want a beautiful experience(WITH LAG) of the interface(FOR A LITTLE WHILE) in lieu of the OVERALL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE then please UPDATE TO ICS.
BUT if you want to have a better experience(WITHOUT ANY LAG) with all of the phone's feature THEN STAY WITH THE GB.
I have tried almost every ICS ROM for the ARC and almost every ROM HAS A LAG(in the beginning it doesn't come into action but after some time when caching of system applications start it's the most HORRIBLE experience with the phone and sometimes you can't even use your phone for call or messaging (LIKE IT'S LAGGING LIKE HEELLL) )
SO it's upto you..what i think
I AM BACK TO GB FROM ICS
REST IS YOUR CHOICE
**I COPIED THIS FROM MY EARLIER POST FROM THE SIMILAR TOPICS..SO DON'T MIND IF THE POINTS ARE REPEATED
plz hit thanks if i helped

badboyofpersia said:
okkk thnx but then am really confused. should i. should i not...
tel me one thing. if i update it to ICS can i go back to GB by just normal flashing process?
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First thing, Brilliant explanation from amankumar2508007. Couldn't have put it better myself! :good:
Right, onto your question. Yeah, you can just use the normal flashing process with flashtool. If you do decide to give ICS a try, wipe everything. Apps and other files will conflict with each other and slow the phone down even more. If you need any help, just ask me. I'll do the best I can to help

Jon565G said:
First thing, Brilliant explanation from amankumar2508007. Couldn't have put it better myself! :good:
Right, onto your question. Yeah, you can just use the normal flashing process with flashtool. If you do decide to give ICS a try, wipe everything. Apps and other files will conflict with each other and slow the phone down even more. If you need any help, just ask me. I'll do the best I can to help
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apps and other files will conflict??? u mean even after wiping in flash tool still the dirt remains?
or it will give a fresh GB

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apps and other files will conflict??? u mean even after wiping in flash tool still the dirt remains?
or it will give a fresh GB
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I meant the wipe files in flashtool. That gets rid of everything. You should do that every time you switch from GB or ICS. No need to wipe in CWM.
What i meant by the apps is that some are the GB version. Also some of the apps really slow ICS down. It's better just to start from fresh.

Jon565G said:
I meant the wipe files in flashtool. That gets rid of everything. You should do that every time you switch from GB or ICS. No need to wipe in CWM.
What i meant by the apps is that some are the GB version. Also some of the apps really slow ICS down. It's better just to start from fresh.
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ok ok ok ok
so one last time il ask
il download generic india ics .587 (good??) and flash it (selecting wipe).. this will put ics on my phone (clean version)
later if i dont like it i will flash gb .62 generic global wit WIPE option ticked.. this wil get me back to a fresh official gb fw.. right?

Yep that's right mate.
Please don't take my last post the wrong way, I didn't mean it like that. I was just trying to keep it as simple as I could
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[Q] How to root and install custom roms on xperia sl?? m a beginner..

First of all thanks in advance
my phone performance is very bad(xperia sl) it have only 700 MB of RAM whereas the spec says that it have 1 GB of RAM, so it lags and hangs very much, i have read somewhere that installing a custom ROM improve performance and have reached this forum by that, so plz tell me step by step tutorial to installing a custom ROM, and i dont even know anything so plz tell me in detail..

Arshad Bhati said:
First of all thanks in advance
my phone performance is very bad(xperia sl) it have only 700 MB of RAM whereas the spec says that it have 1 GB of RAM, so it lags and hangs very much, i have read somewhere that installing a custom ROM improve performance and have reached this forum by that, so plz tell me step by step tutorial to installing a custom ROM, and i dont even know anything so plz tell me in detail..
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Do read other threads to get general information. Also, go through various ROM threads(not many) to know about them.
Also, decide if You want to stay on Stock based ROM's(Jelly Bean 4.1.2) or want to use latest Android ROM's. Do know, the company firmware is the best firmware, You won't find any major bugs there. But if You decide to root and install custom ROM's, You will face many problems, many of them major one's. But there is positive side too, You get many new features, latest android etc. So first decide if You are okay with issues with Your phone, or want a stable phone. Then If You want to flash ROM's, let us know which one's. And most of all, search, even on Google, just add "xda" while searching. Like "unlock bootloader Xperia S xda" will give You proper results.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2863433