Hi all!
This is my very first post here, although i`m quite familiar with most topics related to our defy`s.
I`m starting this post because i need to share my experience with the latest and the greatest mistake I ever done since i have this phone, so all of you who are considering to update, be aware!
So, i flashed yesterday in my red-leans defy the GB 2.3.5 rom (to be more precise 4.5.1_DFP_125) and got this message from moto that there is an update to DFP 231. My rom was a bright clean one so the update process went smoothly and the result is a wonderful 4.5.1_DFP_231 rom with Bl 7 and unrootable (yet).
Although the rom is excellent and everything works as it should be (quite fast and great battery life for a full-blur rom), you must be aware that the absence of root limits almost all the fun part that the hardware of your defy (or defy+) is able to deliver. Keep this in mind before updating your bl6 (rootable) rom.
Sorry for another post on this topic but being new in this forum i`m not allowed to post in the development section of defy (where I firs intended to write).
A similar thread you can find here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523950 )
If somebody knows a way or will find a way to root all the new Bl7 roms, please share. Until then cheers from vazduh.
Being an android newbie and a Defy+ user, maybe my respond is irrelevant and sorry if it is.
My rom version was 6. I made the OTA update from DFP-125 to DFP-231, which also updated the boot.img, probably making it version 7? as you're saying.
Then I flashed a full DFP-125 sbf with version 6, and everything was fine. Rootable as ever.
So, the problem you're describing is that there is not a full sbf you can use for the first defy to do something like this or I'm totally missing the point? I though only a full sbf with CG31.smg could destroy the downgradeability.
i dont know what firmware i have before in my MB526, remember only android 2.3.6, my phone download 16mb via OTA and i have BL 7 and DFP-231. Can i try uptade sbf to DFP-125 ?
My phone had 2.3.5 when purchased.
I can flash this version 6 rom after the OTA update.
I wipe and use DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-125_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTES_P025_A023_M002_HWp3_WIG148097_Service1FF.sbf.
And everything goes factory default.
If you have flashed a version 7 full sbf, I think that the downgradeability is lost.
Why don't you guys try the ZergRush exploit or GingerBreak ?
Herpderp Defy.
not work for me, phone launch only DFP-188
Vazduh said:
Hi all!
This is my very first post here, although i`m quite familiar with most topics related to our defy`s.
I`m starting this post because i need to share my experience with the latest and the greatest mistake I ever done since i have this phone, so all of you who are considering to update, be aware!
So, i flashed yesterday in my red-leans defy the GB 2.3.5 rom (to be more precise 4.5.1_DFP_125) and got this message from moto that there is an update to DFP 231. My rom was a bright clean one so the update process went smoothly and the result is a wonderful 4.5.1_DFP_231 rom with Bl 7 and unrootable (yet).
Although the rom is excellent and everything works as it should be (quite fast and great battery life for a full-blur rom), you must be aware that the absence of root limits almost all the fun part that the hardware of your defy (or defy+) is able to deliver. Keep this in mind before updating your bl6 (rootable) rom.
Sorry for another post on this topic but being new in this forum i`m not allowed to post in the development section of defy (where I firs intended to write).
A similar thread you can find here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523950 )
If somebody knows a way or will find a way to root all the new Bl7 roms, please share. Until then cheers from vazduh.
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is your phone defy or defy+ ??? which variant ?? the post you have given has amused me cause as far as i know defy wasn't supposed to be upgraded to 2.3.6 . and u have only stated that you mobile is red lense defy that is also basic defy with bayers module variant but not defy+ . so kinda confused . can you tell which variant is urs ? is it defy with red lense ? or defy+ ?
From DFP 231 no downgrade just to 188
no root
no downgrade
(yet)
just wait
188 and 231 (or 2311 / 2312) are all on BL7, so downgrading 231 to 188 should be possible...
but there is no way to root these roms (for now)...
@joydeep:
i think he has got an defy+, cause there will never be an OTA to gingerbread on Defy
and i really have to say:
ON EVERY THREAD WITH UPGRADING TOPIC IS A BIG RED TEXT THAT DOWNGRADING / ROOTING IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR 188 AND UP
joydeep1985 said:
is your phone defy or defy+ ??? which variant ?? the post you have given has amused me cause as far as i know defy wasn't supposed to be upgraded to 2.3.6 . and u have only stated that you mobile is red lense defy that is also basic defy with bayers module variant but not defy+ . so kinda confused . can you tell which variant is urs ? is it defy with red lense ? or defy+ ?
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My phone is a regular defy with red leans, but after i flashed the defy+ oficial 2.3.5 ROM (DFP-125 for UK as i remember) i suppose that it "became" a defy+. This is why i received the OTA update message from moto to update to DFP 231 (which i know is a BL7 ROM). After the update process, i tried to root the phone with Superoneclick 2.3.3 and failed (never failed before, with previous ROMS). So my coclusion is that the 16 MB OTA update delivered me a 4.5.1 134 - DFP 231 rom which is not downgradeable and unrootable yet.
And yeah its amusing to now how easy can transform your defy into a defy plus (btw i didnt experienced any problems regarding battery indicator or camera issues. In fact the phone runs flawless after the update)
p4tgb said:
Being an android newbie and a Defy+ user, maybe my respond is irrelevant and sorry if it is.
My rom version was 6. I made the OTA update from DFP-125 to DFP-231, which also updated the boot.img, probably making it version 7? as you're saying.
Then I flashed a full DFP-125 sbf with version 6, and everything was fine. Rootable as ever.
So, the problem you're describing is that there is not a full sbf you can use for the first defy to do something like this or I'm totally missing the point? I though only a full sbf with CG31.smg could destroy the downgradeability.
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Strange. I myself tried to root the new OTA-updated 231 ROM and failed with every known method (known by google search at least), but i admit that i didnt try to re-flash the old 2.3.5 rom (451. 134 DFP 125) for the simple fact that a assumed it would be impossible, resulting in black screen. But i now have a full 231 UK sbf and perhaps would give a try to reflash 2.3.5 rom. It least this is what i understood from your post.
Cheers
DJ_Synergy said:
188 and 231 (or 2311 / 2312) are all on BL7, so downgrading 231 to 188 should be possible...
but there is no way to root these roms (for now)...
@joydeep:
i think he has got an defy+, cause there will never be an OTA to gingerbread on Defy
and i really have to say:
ON EVERY THREAD WITH UPGRADING TOPIC IS A BIG RED TEXT THAT DOWNGRADING / ROOTING IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR 188 AND UP
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its a defy RED lens regular, but because the hardware is identical with defy+ it was considered as a defy+. The only difference i know between the two phones is the battery (processor: OMAP 3630 but i know it says that defy has 3610 and defy+ 3620, no... its the same; GPU PowerVR SGX530, 512 RAM and so on)
I also have a regular defy in which I flashed the 2.3.5 Offical SBF so in a way it became a Defy +
I also received the OTA update, which changed the screen lock btw, and I noticed that it took away my root. I tried with Superoneclick 2.3.3 and 2.3.2 and they both failed. I also tried to flash the 2.3.5 Official SBF and it resulted in a black screen and wouldn't boot. So after 2 restless hours, I found the 2.3.6 rom and my phone was brought back to life.
But now I still have no root.. Does anyone have a solution?
CodeRedXM said:
I also have a regular defy in which I flashed the 2.3.5 Offical SBF so in a way it became a Defy +
I also received the OTA update, which changed the screen lock btw, and I noticed that it took away my root. I tried with Superoneclick 2.3.3 and 2.3.2 and they both failed. I also tried to flash the 2.3.5 Official SBF and it resulted in a black screen and wouldn't boot. So after 2 restless hours, I found the 2.3.6 rom and my phone was brought back to life.
But now I still have no root.. Does anyone have a solution?
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Not yet, and a I have a nasty feeling that we will have to wait a bit longer... As I read around the topic i understood that the new roms which have Bl7 came with a new script or something and this is why the old rooting methods didnt work. We need new stuff
On the other hand its a good rom, no complains about it, except root ofc. Keep digging
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Hi all,
I got my Desire HD today and it's Arabic With Froyo 2.2 and want to Updating it to Arabic Gingerbread Official ROM
I want to update, Root and every other necessary thing to the device to avoid Downgrading or any other pains that may appear in near future
Want to stay in official ROM for while to test device and get familiar with it before trying other custom ROM's
Thanks a lot and waiting your help
check your phone settings...
-----about phone.....software updates ......check now.......
will be updated to official gingerbread........
but rooting will be a problem if you are updating ur build number to 2.42 or above...
you cant root now......you must have to wait.........
if its updating to 2.36 or 2.37...you can root it................
it depends on ur luck[I think]
[rooting without downgrading is almost impossible]...
ALL THE BEST............
Already checked for over the air update and found it about 110 MB
Case 1 : [Can i root my device now] and then update it either by Over The Air or RUU and keep root or it will be unrooted again ?!
Case 2 : I will update my device now and i don't know what versions it will be so will i be able to root it after update or will need hard work ?
sorry for those noob question but i am all new to this and don't want to break my device
If you root in froyo mood ....you cant go for official update......
for that you must unroot it and again update.......
2...If you update as I said it will depend on ur luck which version you are getting..
If you are updating to gingerbread 2.3.3
your build no. may updated to 2.37, 2.42, [I also saw one person posted in forum about 2.43]
If 2.37 comes ....no problem you can root it.......
If higher than that comes ...you must have to wait........[I dont know how longer]
In my opinion you must root it now.....because Official gingerbread isnt that good...
search the forum...you can see many compliants...after updating it....
I am fed up with too much of complaints and I am waiting to know how to root 2.42.........
rohithksaj said:
If you root in froyo mood ....you cant go for official update......
for that you must unroot it and again update.......
2...If you update as I said it will depend on ur luck which version you are getting..
If you are updating to gingerbread 2.3.3
your build no. may updated to 2.37, 2.42, [I also saw one person posted in forum about 2.43]
If 2.37 comes ....no problem you can root it.......
If higher than that comes ...you must have to wait........[I dont know how longer]
In my opinion you must root it now.....because Official gingerbread isnt that good...
search the forum...you can see many compliants...after updating it....
I am fed up with too much of complaints and I am waiting to know how to root 2.42.........
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So do you recommend staying in Froyo in official version and if i want Gingerbread so i have to use costume roms
i think that there is some changes in sense between Froyo and GB or i am wrong ? what the GB changelog for Desire HD cuz if it don't worth upgrading i will not do it and will stay with Froyo
So do you recommend staying in Froyo in official version and if i want Gingerbread so i have to use costume roms
yup....you can use custom roms if you want gingerbread after rooting....
I am recommending you to root in froyo than updating.........
I am one of the person who is regretting for updating .....
And I dont think there's difference bw the senses of gb and froyo....
[ if you wanna root...you MUST DOWNGRADE....whether its GB[upto 2.37] or froyo]......
What about rooting then update to 2.3.3 with pre-rooted room or GB update doesn't worth at all ??
i like the new sense 2.1 and want to get it but don't know what to do
also the device is new and with warranty so i don't wont to void it for one or two months cuz if there any problem with it i can send it back
if i updated now to official 2.3.3 ROM either by RUU or OTA , can i downgrade and go for root and custom ROM or i will be stuck at 2.3.3 with no root ?!
bro..listen carefully...I already posted for your question.....
its simple.....
If you update your fone to 2.3.3 via official update....
ur build no may get updated to 2.36 , 2.37 or above[in ur phone settings.about phone.. you can see ur build no......]
it depends on ur luck which version you will get.....[i believe]
currently therez ways to downgrade 2.36,2.37.......[build no]
if your fone get updated abve 2.37
.
downgrading above 2.37 isnt found yet.......so you cant downgrade it....that means you cant root it.......
I have a plan for you.........you just go for official update....
get ur 2.3.3 and sense 2.1
feel ur 2.3.3.....and know the difference bt 2.2 and 2.3.3
and use it for 2 or 3 months.....when you start thinking that you wanna root through downgrading just visit the forums......by that time our senior members will find the way to downgrade 2.42 and all...........
[caution-update at your risk....wat I have said about finding the way to downgrade 2.42 are estimations.....I am not sure about they will find within 2 or 3 months.]
rohithksaj said:
I have a plan for you.........you just go for official update....
get ur 2.3.3 and sense 2.1
feel ur 2.3.3.....and know the difference bt 2.2 and 2.3.3
and use it for 2 or 3 months.....when you start thinking that you wanna root through downgrading just visit the forums......by that time our senior members will find the way to downgrade 2.42 and all...........
[caution-update at your risk....wat I have said about finding the way to downgrade 2.42 are estimations.....I am not sure about they will find within 2 or 3 months.]
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That is what i am planning to do but just want to do it right so in future when i need to root or downgrade every thing will be smooth ,, do you recommend doing S-Off or any other stuff before updating as it possible now and will not be possible after updating ?!
noob question what is meant by 2.37, 2.42 where is that numbers ?? is it the build number or what cuz i can't find it
already downloaded this RUU is this the latest version and do you recommend update with it or go with OTA update ?
RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_HTC_ARA_2.42.415.1_Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_193079_signed
which version that i can downgrade and is there a shipped rom for that or no ??
Thanks a lot for your help and your time
oh bro..am getting confused............
k..here is the deal......its simple....
dont think about S-off or sumthing b4 you update.....to S OFF ur set you must downgrade it now........you can do that stuffs when you think about rooting....
2.I prefer you go for official update.....
3.go to settings--about fone----software information---build no.....
if the picture given on d top is your DHDs settings then ur build no is 1.83.415
Nothing to do bro...just go for official update.........nothing to worry about....nothing to do b4 official update to make rooting easy.......Enjoy it until you want to root......
when you want to root check the forums......you will definitely find the way.....
[now think about only official update.................PLS DONT THINK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE]
After updating officially......post ur new build no..here...I will tell you what to do........
ALL THE BEST>>>>
first i don't know how to thank you for your patience and your time
so now you recommend me to update to gingerbread and start using the device normal use
just want to know what is the best way to update the device OTA or using one of RUU files
final question about rooting and S-Off , is it possible to root and S-Off Desire HD with Gingerbread whatever the method is or updating it will make the device stuck and we have to wait for solution ?!
you go for official update bro..........that i recommend you to use gingerbread as you dont want to root ur fone now and create some problem....
no......you can root ur fone even after updating to gingerbread.....
just check out the forum.......
you arent rooting it quickly after updating na ????
if ur build no..gets updated to higher than 2.37.......
you must wait for rooting......thats it....nothing else.........
All the best with ur DHD GB......
Thanks a lot for your help and I will update the device today isA
I will postpon rooting for month or two for warranty reasons cuz the device is new and don't want to void my warranty
now i already installed some apps and want to format so shall i reformat it from BootLoader using Factory Reset
also updating it over WiFi or using the RUU file RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_HTC_ARA_2.42.415.1_Radio_12. 54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_193079_signed
update via Wifi......
Updated it via WiFi and it's so good
liked the new sense with quick setting and application icon now is better than the old arrow and menu section all / frequent / downloaded is VERY GOOD
Version now is
Baseband Version
12. 54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2
Kernal Version
2.6.35.10-g997575f
Build Number
2.42.415.1 CL68905
Software Number
2.42.415.1
....great...........Enjoy your GB.........
What's the best Maps/GPS application to use and have Egypt Maps cuz Google Maps still don't have offline mode maps like Nokia Ovi Maps and every time you run you must be connected to Internet
Or if there any other way to save maps for Google Maps to use it without internet will be good
you must have a app called locations.........[i havent tried yet]
there ......if you want to see the map of particular location.....you must download it.....[i had 327mb to download.....and I didnt]
so that does means....you can see the map...even if you are offline.......
rohithksaj said:
you must have a app called locations.........[i havent tried yet]
there ......if you want to see the map of particular location.....you must download it.....[i had 327mb to download.....and I didnt]
so that does means....you can see the map...even if you are offline.......
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I really don't know how to thank you ... trying it now
Maps appear only in location not in Maps ?!
Hi
How can i return to the froyo 2.2 my Defy came with? Which sbf do i need for Germany? Or ist this working over a *.zip?
Wanna be able to return to stock in case i want to sell it..
Plz help or guide me to the right thread...cant find it
EDIT: Ok found the info here on XDA...
have you tried browsing through the official SBFs page? There is a list of FULL SBFs (I think) that you may flash on your phone.
But you have to remember what particular CG version you had prior to installation of CM7. Check the thread about the Beginner's Guide to Motorola Defy. It's a very informative guide.
downgrade
is it possible to downgrade from defy 2.3.4 gingerbread?
tom11 said:
is it possible to downgrade from defy 2.3.4 gingerbread?
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I think so. I'm assuming that Gingerbread 2.3.4 and 2.3.5 are under the same CG versions (that's from how I understood the All-in-One guide).
But you haven't flashed any FULL SBFs yet, right? You just installed the CM7?
NEWS!
Today ,ME525 system will be upgraded to 2.3.4，This time is the official upgrade，By MFUN BBS. com Forum released the first time，Welcome to the forum for the exchange。
1 can downgrade after the upgrade?
A: The brush can be downgraded to a specific version of the ROM Android 2.2, this version will be released in the near future.
2 green lens is normal?
A: The domestic market DEFY are red lens, solid MOTO China, the upgrade package only for the state line to do the hardware adapter.
Please look outside the parallel version of the update or wait for the magic green lens interesting forum solution.
3. This version is the official version?
A: This version is the official version, compared to the previous version is more stable transplant leak.
4 How to Brush?
A: Brush through a dedicated Motorola RSD Lite software can be a key Brush
5 data storage problem?
A: The major version number upgrade will clear the phone, please make a backup job in advance
6 Brush whether the warranty
A: The State Bank brush this upgrade package users can enjoy the same warranty
7 Brush Pack in what ways exist?
A: SBF firmware form
8 parallel red-head is available?
A: In theory there is no pressure.
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!
wonder other country or area will update defy or not!!!
and it is "flash" instead of "brush"?
Yes brush after being directly translated to from Chinese means flash.
This is a terribly translated pile of text, does this mean green lens will work or red lens will work???
Official, so can you update it with motorola's update software? Or how does one know it is official?
Congratulation！But mine is smuggleg.
I have updated my ME525 using the image file made by VID190, thanks him
你花这么多时间来翻译，真是有耐心啊，呵呵
I've one question, can we (mb525) to flash signed sbf. I want official 2.3 cause, poorly powermangement of custom roms (battery is like countdownter when display is used)?
Arrow DEFY for China(ME525)Upgrade 2.3
someone who can say that such testing is and what improvements have
I make the install
defy
will the defy be updated for the rest of the world?
^ officially no. Motorola makes stupid ...
So this is an official 2.3 but only in China?
Now, is it better than builds we got already? Is kernel fixed? I read bright buttons issue seems to be present... And if we get SBF, which cg versions it will have (Chinese Froyo got version 2, not 4)?
Officially only China ME525 will get Android 2.3.4, this is discrimination, but Motorola makes 2 time, when update Motoroi 702 in Chaina to 2.2, when even xt720 not get official 2.2 in rest world. Chaina are about 1 billions
cool but brush
If it does work on the MB525 its gonna be a lot more stable and battery efficient than the Defy+ rom's that we use as they aren't optimized for the smaller battery on the Defy.
Sent from my ME525+ using Tapatalk
So, what's the news on this it?
Is the update available over the air in China or not?
Anyone from China has done the "brushing" yet? - lol
I could give it a shot, but I don't want to mess with my 'downgradability' to Froyo and CM7...
And from that official GB, would a Froyo nand restore and fixed.sbf flashing bring me back OK - 100% safe?
Where the devs at !?
Sent from my ME525+ using Tapatalk
Could someone take the liberty to post it in the Development forum. Please.
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When will be yours update to 2.3, in October, we want try your rom on our devices...
Upgrade the china rom to downgrade later to froyo ?
Hi i want to change my gingerbread rom..
My Phone parameter:
System: 45.0.1320.MB526.Retail.en.DE
Android: 2.3.6
Baseband: EPU93_U_00.60.00
Kernel: [email protected] #1
Build: 4.5.1-134_DPF-132
My Problem:
After flashing a another rom, the defy don´t boot only the White LED is on...
Battery is full...
thx...
Is there any android 4.0 rom for defy?
hi all loooking for a little help have defy on 2.2 froyo offical update from moto want to root phone then flash ginger bread on it but a little aprehensive have read loads of posts on site rooting the phone looks easy have downloaded the advised software oneclick,rds lite,can anyone point me in the right direction for the full sfb for this
nandroid backup.....
I would consider using a nandroid backup instead as there are problems with downgrade-ability if you flash the full SBF.
Currently I'm using the one found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285007
It seems pretty good, I haven't had any problems although I did have to do the battery fix. I'm not sure about the other versions based on MS2Ginger2.0, if they are much better hopefully someone can let us both know.
I've got a Motorola Defy+ which was running on 2.2 when i purchased it.
In modding my defy+ i managed to update it to 2.3.6 with a full sbf file before being aware of the whole "no downgrade" option.
I really like the look of wajkiui rom. However upon reading the details of it; it seems that its only available to 2.2? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161110
Is there any possible way at all that I can downgrade 2.3.6 to 2.2? I'd then just do a fixed sbf + nandroid backup.
or
Is there a version of the wajkiui rom that is made available for 2.3.6 that i'm not aware of?
I've done a lot of searching on xda and havent been able to find an answer.. so thought id make a thread
Thanks