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Ok. So it seems that the .587 ICS is hawt and i was thinking of upgrading to it from GB...
But could you please answer a few things-
1. Is it worth upgrading?
2. Why should i?
3. By removing all junk apps will it be smooth as GB (My friend's lagged alot)
I'll try to answer your questions:
1. It depends whether you want the new features that ICS offers. If you don't use you phone that much and like the speed it offers then stick with GB. Personally, I use the features. (And I like to have the latest software on everything I own, it doesn't matter if it slows it down or not :laugh
Here's a list of some of the features that ICS offers. http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/t...eatures-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-118969.
http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
Some of these can't be used on the arc because of no front facing camera or NFC
2. Think I answered two questions together ^. But all in all if you would use the newer features, and don't mind compromising speed. Also you will be able to install of the the newer xperia S apk's. More of the dev's are only working on ICS ROM's now.
3. Simply, no. It won't be as fast, even with all of the bloat removed. Some of the custom roms do get close, but they will still use more RAM than GB
Hope I helped. If you want, I'll try to explain some more :good:
Jon565G said:
I'll try to answer your questions:
1. It depends whether you want the new features that ICS offers. If you don't use you phone that much and like the speed it offers then stick with GB. Personally, I use the features. (And I like to have the latest software on everything I own, it doesn't matter if it slows it down or not :laugh
Here's a list of some of the features that ICS offers. http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/t...eatures-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-118969.
http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
Some of these can't be used on the arc because of no front facing camera or NFC
2. Think I answered two questions together ^. But all in all if you would use the newer features, and don't mind compromising speed. Also you will be able to install of the the newer xperia S apk's. More of the dev's are only working on ICS ROM's now.
3. Simply, no. It won't be as fast, even with all of the bloat removed. Some of the custom roms do get close, but they will still use more RAM than GB
Hope I helped. If you want, I'll try to explain some more :good:
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okkk thnx but then am really confused. should i. should i not...
tel me one thing. if i update it to ICS can i go back to GB by just normal flashing process?
Your choice
FIRST ICS was meant to run properly on devices with ram greater than 512mb. With only 512mb of ram it can only hold the necessary system applications of ANDROID. SO while running ICS on arc it RUNS SMOOTHLY FIRST but afterwards the apps get CACHED it starts lagging
REALLY LIKE HELL (with only 100-150mb ram gets left what do you expect its PERFORMANCE).SO i don't think that there is any possibility of running ICS smoothly forever on ARC.
JELLY BEAN on the other hand will also be requiring HIGH SPEC DEVICES..SO don't expect it also run without any lag on arc.
I don't know why SONY ERICSSON only put 512mb of ram in all it's 2011 xperia devices while also assuring to RUN OUT THE ICS UPDATE knowing the fact that ICS requires a higher RAM value.
I like the INTERFACE of ICS but to use it on the ARC IS TO GIVE UP the speed and performance.I used it for a month(tried every ics and cm9 rom)
but was too too UPSET. SO gone back to the GINGER BREAD ROM(it's best for the xperia arc).
TO USE ICS SMOOTHLY I SUGGEST TO BUY ANOTHER DEVICE WITH HIGH END SPECS.
SECOND IF you really want a beautiful experience(WITH LAG) of the interface(FOR A LITTLE WHILE) in lieu of the OVERALL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE then please UPDATE TO ICS.
BUT if you want to have a better experience(WITHOUT ANY LAG) with all of the phone's feature THEN STAY WITH THE GB.
I have tried almost every ICS ROM for the ARC and almost every ROM HAS A LAG(in the beginning it doesn't come into action but after some time when caching of system applications start it's the most HORRIBLE experience with the phone and sometimes you can't even use your phone for call or messaging (LIKE IT'S LAGGING LIKE HEELLL) )
SO it's upto you..what i think
I AM BACK TO GB FROM ICS
REST IS YOUR CHOICE
**I COPIED THIS FROM MY EARLIER POST FROM THE SIMILAR TOPICS..SO DON'T MIND IF THE POINTS ARE REPEATED
plz hit thanks if i helped
badboyofpersia said:
okkk thnx but then am really confused. should i. should i not...
tel me one thing. if i update it to ICS can i go back to GB by just normal flashing process?
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First thing, Brilliant explanation from amankumar2508007. Couldn't have put it better myself! :good:
Right, onto your question. Yeah, you can just use the normal flashing process with flashtool. If you do decide to give ICS a try, wipe everything. Apps and other files will conflict with each other and slow the phone down even more. If you need any help, just ask me. I'll do the best I can to help
Jon565G said:
First thing, Brilliant explanation from amankumar2508007. Couldn't have put it better myself! :good:
Right, onto your question. Yeah, you can just use the normal flashing process with flashtool. If you do decide to give ICS a try, wipe everything. Apps and other files will conflict with each other and slow the phone down even more. If you need any help, just ask me. I'll do the best I can to help
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apps and other files will conflict??? u mean even after wiping in flash tool still the dirt remains?
or it will give a fresh GB
badboyofpersia said:
apps and other files will conflict??? u mean even after wiping in flash tool still the dirt remains?
or it will give a fresh GB
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I meant the wipe files in flashtool. That gets rid of everything. You should do that every time you switch from GB or ICS. No need to wipe in CWM.
What i meant by the apps is that some are the GB version. Also some of the apps really slow ICS down. It's better just to start from fresh.
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I meant the wipe files in flashtool. That gets rid of everything. You should do that every time you switch from GB or ICS. No need to wipe in CWM.
What i meant by the apps is that some are the GB version. Also some of the apps really slow ICS down. It's better just to start from fresh.
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ok ok ok ok
so one last time il ask
il download generic india ics .587 (good??) and flash it (selecting wipe).. this will put ics on my phone (clean version)
later if i dont like it i will flash gb .62 generic global wit WIPE option ticked.. this wil get me back to a fresh official gb fw.. right?
Yep that's right mate.
Please don't take my last post the wrong way, I didn't mean it like that. I was just trying to keep it as simple as I could
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i have been try 2 days already JB to GB , using RUS rom and thailand rom also many rom with pit also .
:crying:
when i use firmware 4.1.2 it work on my phone but donnot like that . i want GB back what should i do .
when i flash with 2.3.6 rom then i got problem hang at boot screen .
when i use kies not happpening anything , what should i do , after flash with GB i cannot go to recovery mode also .
i want my GB back please help,
GT-I8160L (thailand)
harkaman said:
i have been try 2 days already JB to GB , using RUS rom and thailand rom also many rom with pit also .
:crying:
when i use firmware 4.1.2 it work on my phone but donnot like that . i want GB back what should i do .
when i flash with 2.3.6 rom then i got problem hang at boot screen .
when i use kies not happpening anything , what should i do , after flash with GB i cannot go to recovery mode also .
i want my GB back please help,
GT-I8160L (thailand)
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first: my phone is i8160L, ive updated to jelly beans but the phone performs really slow. ram is always full and its verys frustrating.
second: ive tried to go back to ginger bread but the phone gets stuck in a bootloop. ive tried with an official firmware and also with the custom which have three parts. none of them works. odin shows me the fail message when i mark re-partition option.
so the thing is: how to really go back to gingerbread?
which files? which firmware? which odin?
is not allowing me not install other firm , only allowed GT-I8160L VERSION ONLY. WHICH ARE NOT WORKING , ANYONE can help me with GT-I8160L WITH 3 FILE or 5 parts please provide link please , thanks
What is your reason to go back to gb? Because i'll never go back cm10 is much smoother and faster than gb and with jb you have many more apps supported
Regrnvi prescience
Shadowcareful said:
What is your reason to go back to gb? Because i'll never go back cm10 is much smoother and faster than gb and with jb you have many more apps supported
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thanks for reply,
main reason is hang and freez alot GB IS MUCH BETTER, and lighter i think , even sky call are hang some time gtalk can hang to cano oprn line anr other program . like start playing game can call come cannot pick up maybe other GT-I8160/p are good with JB but not with my GT-I8160L
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,i like also jb but i want little more smother ,not with freez and hang .
thanks , please advice ,
harkaman said:
thanks for reply,
main reason is hang and freez alot GB IS MUCH BETTER, and lighter i think , even sky call are hang some time gtalk can hang to cano oprn line anr other program . like start playing game can call come cannot pick up maybe other GT-I8160/p are good with JB but not with my GT-I8160L
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,i like also jb but i want little more smother ,not with freez and hang .
thanks , please advice ,
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I agree, JB do not perform well at all on th GT-I8160L I got, it can be used if turn of all animation and stuff like that but my biggest loss is that I can not run the 3 apps simultanously I need to use (Skype, Viber, CSip), the phone then is so slow I hardly can use it as a phone, I can never answer because the phone app starts so slow that the other part already hung up when I finally slide for answer :-/
I have EXACTLY the same problem downgrading to GB (I8160DXLF2_I8160OLBLF2_THL.zip), I have the official GB firmware and it installs nicely using Odin 3.07 but it get stuck in the bootscreen. If I then put JB (THL-I8160LDCME1, official thai) on it, no problem and it starts.
What todo? Please advice, anyone?
i m also
im about to upgrade my I860L. to that I860DOME1 .is it so slow that the phone is unusable. ithink flashing cm 10.1 or 10.2 will be faster
3 part firmware
I have the GB 3 part firmware, if you still need this, i can provide you...
teogepe said:
I have the GB 3 part firmware, if you still need this, i can provide you...
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theres no 3 part for L varient.
teddytsen said:
theres no 3 part for L varient.
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Yes there is. I have it!.
I will upload later, but where can i post it!?
well, just got my Gnex... and i really like accept for one issue... lots of random shutdown and reboot there is no pattern i can define..
how ever... fort the most part when it shuts down i am forced to pull the battery inorder to restart it... this is on an unlocked and rooted phone.. but it also happened on a completely stock rom... dang i really like this phone to... im wondering is its an issue with hardware, battery or rom right now im on Jellybean 4.2 rooted.. stock.. not really sure what else to do... perhaps try a different rom and kernel? bit lost here.. i just hope the phone is not defective... that would kinda suck..
any help is appreciated....
scuzzo said:
well, just got my Gnex... and i really like accept for one issue... lots of random shutdown and reboot there is no pattern i can define..
how ever... fort the most part when it shuts down i am forced to pull the battery inorder to restart it... this is on an unlocked and rooted phone.. but it also happened on a completely stock rom... dang i really like this phone to... im wondering is its an issue with hardware, battery or rom right now im on Jellybean 4.2 rooted.. stock.. not really sure what else to do... perhaps try a different rom and kernel? bit lost here.. i just hope the phone is not defective... that would kinda suck..
any help is appreciated....
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Which kernel are you using and what params for that ( if any ?)...?
Ashtrix said:
Which kernel are you using and what params for that ( if any ?)...?
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well, right now i have franko kernel installed , no params adjusted... not even sure where i would find the section in settings.. on a stock Verizion JB 4.2... im not even sure what would be the best rom to try
some one suggested MetalC.. but i cant find the Gapps that work with that one... so what i need is a solid ROM, Kernel and Gapps..
i was able to root via the Nexus Root Tool kit... that went well... but now i need to decide what Toro version rom i need to use.. and im keeping an eye out to see if the Franko kernel brings any joy for those random reboots and shutdowns... the guy i bought the Gnex from said he will do a full refund but i want to sort this out if possible... this little machine is too cool just to cash out on...
time to research on roms and stuff i guess..
scuzzo said:
well, right now i have franko kernel installed , no params adjusted... not even sure where i would find the section in settings.. on a stock Verizion JB 4.2... im not even sure what would be the best rom to try
some one suggested MetalC.. but i cant find the Gapps that work with that one... so what i need is a solid ROM, Kernel and Gapps..
i was able to root via the Nexus Root Tool kit... that went well... but now i need to decide what Toro version rom i need to use.. and im keeping an eye out to see if the Franko kernel brings any joy for those random reboots and shutdowns... the guy i bought the Gnex from said he will do a full refund but i want to sort this out if possible... this little machine is too cool just to cash out on...
time to research on roms and stuff i guess..
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For 4.4 go for cMetal / Playfulgod / dhacker's CM builds, for a 4.3 experience i dunno any one for toro and for kernel i think you can try out MpoKang as it can be flashed on 4.3 and up just have a look in the official thread and you'll be able to find zips plus use trickster app for the kernel control :good: !!
well, a bit of a followup friday swapped out the stock kernel for Franko kernel... and i have had it on for about most of the day yesterday and zero random shutdowns and no SOD.. this little thing is great and its a lot more easy to have this around then a remote for 2 google tv a roku and an xbmc box... i have not delved into new roms, the JB stock seems to be working fine im getting at least 10 hrs out of the battery... this is be best micro tablet i could ever find for 70 bucks... and the screeen is quite nice.. im sure i will be moding soon enough... but for now just a kernel change seems to have put an end to the sleep of death and random shutoffs..
I am fed up with the lag issue in this GRAND duos. tried all these methods
(1) reverting back to amf7
(2) flashing bna4
(3) flashing ubmk3
(4) disbaled stock gallery app
(5) disabled as many as possible official apps....
All the solutions proved to be just temporary. After 24 hours to 4 days it starts lagging again. Now I am sick of flashing firmwares.
My phone is under warranty up to 19 April. If I go to service center and ask for replacement of motherboard/phone, will they replace just on the complain "my this phone hangs a lot. I have googled and found that many users have flashed other firmwares yet phones lag. These users say that this problem has no solution but replacement of motherboard?" (I cannot tell them that I have flashed other firmwares myself).
If any user with same problem has flashed custom ROM, please share your experience.
Bro, though I've never flashed a custom rom on my grand , but my Grand is rooted and I've flashed a lot of mods on it , but my Grand never lags . It is very fast and buttery smooth . I want to ask you that wether you directly started flashing custom roms on your galaxy grand or in the beginning you just rooted and flashed some mods like me ?
@MohdGhufran
From what date is your last stock ROM?
I'm having the same problem. But I've used the CM11 on another occasion and did not face any problem. Then I went back to Stock and updated the same last week.
The phone was very bad (lag). So I returned to the CM11, but the lag continues.
I'll try an earlier stock and after the CM11.
I'll post the result here.
(Sorry for my English by Google)
@Mohdgufran - I agree... I m running umbmk1 ... after 3 to 4 days with out restart the phone starts to lag...
The only solution temporarily is to clear the ram in task manager...
Stay wid 4.2.2 and use a ram cleaner (it sucks a bit battery but its the only possible non technical solution)
MohdGhufran said:
I am fed up with the lag issue in this GRAND duos. tried all these methods
(1) reverting back to amf7
(2) flashing bna4
(3) flashing ubmk3
(4) disbaled stock gallery app
(5) disabled as many as possible official apps....
All the solutions proved to be just temporary. After 24 hours to 4 days it starts lagging again. Now I am sick of flashing firmwares.
My phone is under warranty up to 19 April. If I go to service center and ask for replacement of motherboard/phone, will they replace just on the complain "my this phone hangs a lot. I have googled and found that many users have flashed other firmwares yet phones lag. These users say that this problem has no solution but replacement of motherboard?" (I cannot tell them that I have flashed other firmwares myself).
If any user with same problem has flashed custom ROM, please share your experience.
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maybe u r using stock rom... samsung stock is da worst rom..... u can try gennxt rom, it will hang but not much as in stock rom.... if u r using single sim,,,, den cm11 is da best for u...
MohdGhufran said:
I am fed up with the lag issue in this GRAND duos. tried all these methods
(1) reverting back to amf7
(2) flashing bna4
(3) flashing ubmk3
(4) disbaled stock gallery app
(5) disabled as many as possible official apps....
All the solutions proved to be just temporary. After 24 hours to 4 days it starts lagging again. Now I am sick of flashing firmwares.
My phone is under warranty up to 19 April. If I go to service center and ask for replacement of motherboard/phone, will they replace just on the complain "my this phone hangs a lot. I have googled and found that many users have flashed other firmwares yet phones lag. These users say that this problem has no solution but replacement of motherboard?" (I cannot tell them that I have flashed other firmwares myself).
If any user with same problem has flashed custom ROM, please share your experience.
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Its not motherboard problem if it was u would not have been able to use u r mobile...Its just stock lag issue..Use Pawitp CM11 Rom its Awesome no lag no gitteryness nothing buttery smooth Really Awesome and battery life is also very good...U can use dual sim without any major probs but its still experimental
MohdGhufran said:
I am fed up with the lag issue in this GRAND duos. tried all these methods
(1) reverting back to amf7
(2) flashing bna4
(3) flashing ubmk3
(4) disbaled stock gallery app
(5) disabled as many as possible official apps....
All the solutions proved to be just temporary. After 24 hours to 4 days it starts lagging again. Now I am sick of flashing firmwares.
My phone is under warranty up to 19 April. If I go to service center and ask for replacement of motherboard/phone, will they replace just on the complain "my this phone hangs a lot. I have googled and found that many users have flashed other firmwares yet phones lag. These users say that this problem has no solution but replacement of motherboard?" (I cannot tell them that I have flashed other firmwares myself).
If any user with same problem has flashed custom ROM, please share your experience.
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Have you tried a factory reset, followed by clean flashing a smooth ROM?? In my experience, THAT always solves any problem...
The Dork Knight Rises said:
Have you tried a factory reset, followed by clean flashing a smooth ROM?? In my experience, THAT always solves any problem...
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Its the stock rom that is cursed..:/
I think u need a reverse gear.. First back to 4.1 version then flash with 4.2 November month version then use cm 11 custom rom.. Its fast.. Gud battery back up.. No lag.. And all with dual sim.. I hope this will work for u..
Try greenify and the cleaner both are small apps (around 1 mb) and it will speed up your phone .....
Hit thanks if you find this usefull
Didn't root.
Aeyan Ashraf said:
Bro, though I've never flashed a custom rom on my grand , but my Grand is rooted and I've flashed a lot of mods on it , but my Grand never lags . It is very fast and buttery smooth . I want to ask you that wether you directly started flashing custom roms on your galaxy grand or in the beginning you just rooted and flashed some mods like me ?
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I have not flashed any custom ROM on this phone. Neither have I rooted it. This lag issue started since my bro got an OTA update. So, as per solutions/guidance available on xda, I just flashed official firmwares (which proved to be just temporary solutions)
November' 13
diogoritter said:
@MohdGhufran
From what date is your last stock ROM?
I'm having the same problem. But I've used the CM11 on another occasion and did not face any problem. Then I went back to Stock and updated the same last week.
The phone was very bad (lag). So I returned to the CM11, but the lag continues.
I'll try an earlier stock and after the CM11.
I'll post the result here.
(Sorry for my English by Google)
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I have used many old firmwares. The last firmware I was using was of November 2013.
doctor_droid said:
@Mohdgufran - I agree... I m running umbmk1 ... after 3 to 4 days with out restart the phone starts to lag...
The only solution temporarily is to clear the ram in task manager...
Stay wid 4.2.2 and use a ram cleaner (it sucks a bit battery but its the only possible non technical solution)
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Any technical solution will also be greatly appreciated.
No.
jeevan000 said:
maybe u r using stock rom... samsung stock is da worst rom..... u can try gennxt rom, it will hang but not much as in stock rom.... if u r using single sim,,,, den cm11 is da best for u...
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it is not like that stock ROMs are not good. It is just a problem with Galaxy Grand Duos. I had rooted my Galaxy R and Galaxy S Advance and had flashed Custom ROMs. All the custom ROMs had some limitations / missing features (like USB PC connection, wifi tethering, USB tethering, etc). This is why I do not want to flash any custom ROM on Galaxy Grand.
jackeagle said:
Its not motherboard problem if it was u would not have been able to use u r mobile...Its just stock lag issue..Use Pawitp CM11 Rom its Awesome no lag no gitteryness nothing buttery smooth Really Awesome and battery life is also very good...U can use dual sim without any major probs but its still experimental
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Ok. will give it a try.
The Dork Knight Rises said:
Have you tried a factory reset, followed by clean flashing a smooth ROM?? In my experience, THAT always solves any problem...
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Yes I had. Many times. But this too proved to be a temporary solution.
Rahul111 said:
I think u need a reverse gear.. First back to 4.1 version then flash with 4.2 November month version then use cm 11 custom rom.. Its fast.. Gud battery back up.. No lag.. And all with dual sim.. I hope this will work for u..
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Yes I had tried this. Went back to 4.1 and the upgraded to 4.2. This too proved to be a temporary solution.
I don't want to flash custom ROM but now it seems like I will have to flash the same.
I solved my problem by not installing facebook and twitter as well as also installed battery saver pro which kills apps running in background for every five minutes..
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MohdGhufran said:
I have used many old firmwares. The last firmware I was using was of November 2013.
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The procedure that I suggested (and I did after my post) did not work.
Finally I found the solution!!
I uninstalled Facebook and now everything runs normally!!!!
diogoritter said:
The procedure that I suggested (and I did after my post) did not work.
Finally I found the solution!!
I uninstalled Facebook and now everything runs normally!!!!
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Please notice that I have said: PHONE STARTS LAGGING AFTER 24 - 96 HOURS OF FLASHING NEW FIRMWARE. If anyone is not having lag issue even after 1 week of flashing firmware, please share your firmware / solution.
hi,i ordered this phone today and i have question from you,i heard from someone that said:custom roms are not even near to stock rom in performane! is that right?because i hate stock rom and its IOS UI,i really wanna flash stock rom?and plz tell me about the camera.some people said its really bad and some said its really good!which are right??????thx
any answer?im waiting
Mr-Me said:
any answer?im waiting
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Personaly I received my phone a week and a half ago. I used stock for a week to be sure that all works and then I unlocked the bootloader-unlock, installed twrp and flashed jaguar. I think that this rom is even faster than stock without any delay between the button press and the action. And even if a rom is less powerful I think that with sd820 there is no risk that it can be really felt. Just choose the right roms and you will not have any problem
Its a good phone i have one