I've been casually reading through most of the ICS threads being posted as of late but I have found that none of them hardly touch on the connection between the UVLDE, custom GB, and custom ICS.
Lots of stuff are being said that UVLDE is going to be needed for official ICS, but does that imply that it will also be a stepping stone needed for custom ICS built roms? I don't plan on switching over to stock just to avoid the supposed bricking the ICS will bring without installing UVLDE first. I am seeing a lot of people fine with installing leaked ICS builds, so I don't see why UVLDE would matter. When ICS source finally drops and we get some good builds going, can we just go directly from custom GB to custom ICS?
The tl;dr version of it all is.. will I have to do this:
Custom GB -> stock GB (UVLDE) -> stock ICS -> Custom ICS.
Or can I just simply go:
Custom GB -> Custom ICS.
8Fishes said:
I've been casually reading through most of the ICS threads being posted as of late but I have found that none of them hardly touch on the connection between the UVLDE, custom GB, and custom ICS.
Lots of stuff are being said that UVLDE is going to be needed for official ICS, but does that imply that it will also be a stepping stone needed for custom ICS built roms? I don't plan on switching over to stock just to avoid the supposed bricking the ICS will bring without installing UVLDE first. I am seeing a lot of people fine with installing leaked ICS builds, so I don't see why UVLDE would matter. When ICS source finally drops and we get some good builds going, can we just go directly from custom GB to custom ICS?
The tl;dr version of it all is.. will I have to do this:
Custom GB -> stock GB (UVLDE) -> stock ICS -> Custom ICS.
Or can I just simply go:
Custom GB -> Custom ICS.
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What I think its all TMobile drama. They needed 2 more weeks to finalize stuff so they throw something and bought more time
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You can choose to not listen and do whatever you want. If you have insurance then you have nothing to worry about.
Some peoples phones ended up being bricked eventually running TDJ 's ICS ROM or some of the leaks. I've seen more than one thread opened reporting this. I think they may have been deleted or closed eventually. I think some phones came with different rev of boards or chips and something with the drivers and ICS is causing the bricks. Don't quote me on this because i'm not 100% of what the issue is.
My phone started acting up after a while running on the ICS leaks. No matter which one I was on. So I went ahead and did the GB stock update and planning to stay till the official update.
Maybe the awesome DEV's can implement whatever the update is supposed to do in their ICS ROMs.
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The ota update that TMobile was going to roll out was bricking phones. If you use kies to update you will be fine. If you use a custom ROM, you well be fine. It was only for ota (over the air) update. Where you get a message saying an update us ready, download now. If you don't do that you could be running froyo and you will be fine.
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8Fishes said:
I've been casually reading through most of the ICS threads being posted as of late but I have found that none of them hardly touch on the connection between the UVLDE, custom GB, and custom ICS.
Lots of stuff are being said that UVLDE is going to be needed for official ICS, but does that imply that it will also be a stepping stone needed for custom ICS built roms? I don't plan on switching over to stock just to avoid the supposed bricking the ICS will bring without installing UVLDE first. I am seeing a lot of people fine with installing leaked ICS builds, so I don't see why UVLDE would matter. When ICS source finally drops and we get some good builds going, can we just go directly from custom GB to custom ICS?
The tl;dr version of it all is.. will I have to do this:
Custom GB -> stock GB (UVLDE) -> stock ICS -> Custom ICS.
Or can I just simply go:
Custom GB -> Custom ICS.
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The major thing is upgrade path.
As long as you're not using Kies or the OTA update to flash the official ICS update you can skip UVLDE since the Official ICS update includes the UVLDE components that prevent bricking. When you use Kies to flash pre-UVLDE systems with the official ICS ROM, everything is not replaced on the existing system and that is what causes the brick.
Custom ICS ROMs that are released post-Samsung-Carrier-Official ICS releases may include whatever component in UVLDE prevents bricking. Just be sure to read the documentation for those ROMs carefully so you know if it is a pre-release base or official release base.
So...
pre-UVLDE-ROM --->Kies/OTA --->Official ICS = Brick
any ROM --->ODIN/CWM --->Official ICS/Official ICS Based ROM = Fine
There may be extra brick possibilities with certain earlier builds of the T989. There's an app to test for that. Haven't read up on all that part of it yet. There's hundreds of pages of posts about this and I just found out about it yesterday.
I believe it's something like this - earlier T989s have a defective or problematic EMMC component and whatever patches were made to pre-release official Samsung ROMs caused those phones to brick or something when they were flashed. They patched whatever caused that in UVLDE and that fix is also present in the official release. They tested 20 handsets - 16 with UVLDE and 4 without (numbers may be off). All the handsets without UVLDE bricked on update to the official pre-release ICS.
I don't thinkthe kies update will require it. It does a full "emergency" restore/install of the new software. It will come with the drivers that were causing the issue. I believe the problem was only with the ota update.
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Beefvvl said:
You can choose to not listen and do whatever you want. If you have insurance then you have nothing to worry about.
Some peoples phones ended up being bricked eventually running TDJ 's ICS ROM or some of the leaks. I've seen more than one thread opened reporting this. I think they may have been deleted or closed eventually. I think some phones came with different rev of boards or chips and something with the drivers and ICS is causing the bricks. Don't quote me on this because i'm not 100% of what the issue is.
My phone started acting up after a while running on the ICS leaks. No matter which one I was on. So I went ahead and did the GB stock update and planning to stay till the official update.
Maybe the awesome DEV's can implement whatever the update is supposed to do in their ICS ROMs.
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nobodys phone bricked just from running tdj' s ics it was the touch recovery that was doing it.
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Micronads said:
I don't thinkthe kies update will require it. It does a full "emergency" restore/install of the new software. It will come with the drivers that were causing the issue. I believe the problem was only with the ota update.
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Okay I heard that it was both of those from those who first alerted me to the issue.
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I want to update my phone through Samsung Kies from GB to the official ICS update. If I do it this way, all of my data & apps should stay on the phone, which I want. My phone currently has:
ClockworkMod Recovery
Rooted
Bullet Kernel
Stock ROM
Android V 2.3.5
baseband- T989UVKL1
I know from before that updating the phone requires it to be stock, so my question is, what do I need to do in order to be able to update to ICS through Kies and can I do it w/o losing my apps & data in the process.
Thanks!
wrestlerkid said:
I want to update my phone through Samsung Kies from GB to the official ICS update. If I do it this way, all of my data & apps should stay on the phone, which I want. My phone currently has:
ClockworkMod Recovery
Rooted
Bullet Kernel
Stock ROM
Android V 2.3.5
baseband- T989UVKL1
I know from before that updating the phone requires it to be stock, so my question is, what do I need to do in order to be able to update to ICS through Kies and can I do it w/o losing my apps & data in the process.
Thanks!
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It should work fine through Kies although I'm not sure if the kernel might cause a conflict, I would doubt it though if you are still on a stock rom. I did mine rooted from GB stock and the latest radio update, also had CWM.. Maybe others have input..
VoiD_Dweller said:
It should work fine through Kies although I'm not sure if the kernel might cause a conflict, I would doubt it though if you are still on a stock rom. I did mine rooted from GB stock and the latest radio update, also had CWM.. Maybe others have input..
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I tried through Kies and it said that my phone could not be upgraded. It gives me the message "Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies" ...I went back, flashed the stock kernel and tried again with no luck. :/
..I think i'm going to stick with GB for now anyway though bc I've heard nothing but bad reviews about the official ICS release. I love the way it looks & I had darkside evo2 for a little bit back a while ago and it was super fast but I went back to GB bc I need the fully functionality of my phone and GPS wasn't working
I went from DEICS to Juggernaut GB and havn't looked back. Its In the RM app.
Most say its the best ROM out there and I wouldn't doubt it.
Plus 1.8ghz! BAM!
Can you get OTA on AOKP? I switched back to EL29 Gingerbread. But it keeps saying no firmware update is available so I'm just wondering if they would of missed me or something.
I want the update they send out to the phones just incase of anything, such as modems and connection issues.
hrffd said:
Can you get OTA on AOKP? I switched back to EL29 Gingerbread. But it keeps saying no firmware update is available so I'm just wondering if they would of missed me or something.
I want the update they send out to the phones just incase of anything, such as modems and connection issues.
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Any of the custom ROMs built on FF18 will contain the same thing that OTA had - it has been checked against the leak already.
And no, you cannot pick up OTA on AOKP - stock (rooted/unrooted) only.
If you were still running AOPK, no you wouldn't see it. But since you flashed back to EL29 you will get the OTA. From what I've read the OTA is rolling out in waves. Your region may not have had it rolled out yet.
Why don't you just flash the rooted OTA from the dev section??? Again from what I've read there were no changes made to the OTA from the leaked version of FF18. And word to the wise, if you were to take the OTA you would have to root all over again.
If your having radio or signal issues try flashing a couple different modems till you find one the works for your area.
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So has anyone actually received the ICS update over the air or is everyone just getting it from here? Just asking because me & a couple of my friends have been checking like on the hour for the past few days and haven't gotten the update. They have returned their phones to stock and my wife's E4GT has been stock since day one. She doesn't trust rooting anymore after all the problems we had with the original Epic.
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I didnt bother trying. But friend of mine with the same phone got it on launch day by the time i got the chance to even tell him there was going to be an OTA he laughed and sent me the screen shot of the update message.
I reverted to FF18 to update PRL and Profile and pull a couple APK's now that we know the leak was the OTA and it was back to CM9 for me.
Mind you if your looking to be rooted, the only root method is to flash the FF18 tar (one click of course available) which is going to overwrite the firmware data with the same firmware data so unless you want to test unrooted there isn't much point in wasting time with the OTA. Also keep in mind it has not been found in the available kernel code that FF18 is safe to factory reset, etc on. Might be in compiled binaries like the eMMC driver but not worth the risk. Grab TWRP or Agat's kernel or something if your going custom. A rooted cwm zip is now available in addition to the stock ota update.zip thats on googles servers.
Earlier in the month I put the leaked version of AT&T ICS onto my Bell P930 (which leaked back in the spring sometime), only to find tons of bugs and a dip in battery life.
This is my first android device,and before putting ICS on it, I was really impressed with its performance.
I understand that ICS has officially been released by Bell and AT&T, so is there any way to get the leaked version of AT&T ICS off of my P930 and go back to my original Gingerbread software???(and then update to the actual Bell ICS)?
I am completely new to the Android system, and all the other threads about similar issues have given me dead ends.....anything helps
thanks
You can install the new release that just came out without having to go back to an older version. HOWEVER, if you aren't in a huge hurry, I'd recommend that you wait a few days for the Bell release to officially come out. Once it officially comes out, you will be able to install it by just running an application without any fuss (plus you'll get Bell's version which I imagine will have less bloatware than AT&T's version).
So, once it's officially releaed, you just need to make sure you have Windows USB drivers installed (if you already did it, you don't need to do it again), then install the Software Update program. Download links here: http://www.lg.com/ca_en/support/pro...p?customerModelCode=LGP930&initialTab=drivers
I don't think the update is available yet for Bell but you can try it.
You should wait for the official and then you can easily update. Or you could follow the unbricking guide and switch out the v10 kdz with the new v20. Or you could wait and see if there's a cwm version of the official ICS and follow the unbricking guide as is to get back to root amd cwm installed. Or you can unbrick, get root and cwm and install CM9 or CM10. I'd unbrick and get root/cwm. Then wait for a flashable/rooted version of the new leak. And in the mean time, install CM9 and CM10 and see what you think. Battery life on official is bad based on my first day. I'll be going back to CM10. This was just a novelty because I have two nitros.
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Fairly new to the flashing scene, but seriously loving the freedom and features available to my flashed handsets. Currently using Wicked v1 on my SGS3 and now he's got a new one out that I want to install asap. At nearly the same time an OTA has apparently dropped and there's a new (and improved?) radio/modem flash out there.
My main concern is making sure my handset is as rock solid as possible while having the best available functionality (btw, Wicked rom is an amazing daily driver). Would it be in my best interest to unroot and go back to stock so I can get the OTA and then reroot, flash a rom, flash a radio etc?
OR
Can I just flash Ev1l's new Wicked rom, flash the new radio and not worry about the OTA at all?
I guess you could sum this up as a 'What would you (the experienced pro flasher) do?'
Thanks all.
Krazeee said:
Fairly new to the flashing scene, but seriously loving the freedom and features available to my flashed handsets. Currently using Wicked v1 on my SGS3 and now he's got a new one out that I want to install asap. At nearly the same time an OTA has apparently dropped and there's a new (and improved?) radio/modem flash out there.
My main concern is making sure my handset is as rock solid as possible while having the best available functionality (btw, Wicked rom is an amazing daily driver). Would it be in my best interest to unroot and go back to stock so I can get the OTA and then reroot, flash a rom, flash a radio etc?
OR
Can I just flash Ev1l's new Wicked rom, flash the new radio and not worry about the OTA at all?
I guess you could sum this up as a 'What would you (the experienced pro flasher) do?'
Thanks all.
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I never worry about the OTA's...go for it. The Devs fix all that anyway.
I flashed the new radio over the latest euroskank nightly
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TheAxman said:
I never worry about the OTA's...go for it. The Devs fix all that anyway.
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Awesome. I figured as much, but it's good to know the likelyhood of my opening a wormhole in my livingroom is slightly smaller now.
While you probably won't experience any problems by not worrying about the OTAs, especially since you are not on stock, there are often other elements to an update than just radios. There can also be updates to other partitions on the phone. Sometimes bootloaders, parameters, etc. can be updated also. You won't get these (if you care about them) if you skip the update and just flash the radio. If it were me, I would go back to complete stock with the update and start over. Probably not necessary, but you may want to consider it.