Can you get OTA on AOKP? I switched back to EL29 Gingerbread. But it keeps saying no firmware update is available so I'm just wondering if they would of missed me or something.
I want the update they send out to the phones just incase of anything, such as modems and connection issues.
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Can you get OTA on AOKP? I switched back to EL29 Gingerbread. But it keeps saying no firmware update is available so I'm just wondering if they would of missed me or something.
I want the update they send out to the phones just incase of anything, such as modems and connection issues.
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Any of the custom ROMs built on FF18 will contain the same thing that OTA had - it has been checked against the leak already.
And no, you cannot pick up OTA on AOKP - stock (rooted/unrooted) only.
If you were still running AOPK, no you wouldn't see it. But since you flashed back to EL29 you will get the OTA. From what I've read the OTA is rolling out in waves. Your region may not have had it rolled out yet.
Why don't you just flash the rooted OTA from the dev section??? Again from what I've read there were no changes made to the OTA from the leaked version of FF18. And word to the wise, if you were to take the OTA you would have to root all over again.
If your having radio or signal issues try flashing a couple different modems till you find one the works for your area.
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So I recently found out I'm unable to install OTA Android updates to my phone if it's rooted.
So what can I do once ICS is released for the GS2? Will there be a download online that I can just flash with ODIN? Or are people going to be forced to unroot if they want the official ICS stock?
Most likely samfirmware aka sammobile will release an odin .tar, so you'll be good to go with odin.
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So I recently found out I'm unable to install OTA Android updates to my phone if it's rooted.
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That's not true. You will be unable to install OTA patch-style updates if you have modified one of the files being patched. If you rooted with Auto Root and that's all you did, you will be able to install OTA patch-style updates even without unrooting (though the update will disable root)
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So what can I do once ICS is released for the GS2? Will there be a download online that I can just flash with ODIN? Or are people going to be forced to unroot if they want the official ICS stock?
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I'm sure there will be an ODIN update within a few days or maybe even the same day. You can also flash EK02 and let the OTA update upgrade you (or if you've just rooted with Auto Root, just let the OTA update run), though you are probably better off waiting for an update from XDA, because the updates from here will attempt to keep your rooting and upgrade options as open as possible.
I'll also probably have an OTA compliance check for the next official update so you can tell immediately which files are not in compliance with what the update expects. I have one for EG30 to EK02 as part of the Auto Root package, so it would be similar in functionality.
First rule: Never take an OTA update if you care about rooting.
Any file made available from sprint or samsung will have a rooted/safe version posted in the dev section within a few hours of release.
I know samsung is pretty nice to us rooters but you never know when that might change.
lafester said:
First rule: Never take an OTA update if you care about rooting.
Any file made available from sprint or samsung will have a rooted/safe version posted in the dev section within a few hours of release.
I know samsung is pretty nice to us rooters but you never know when that might change.
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Is there a way to block OTAs? I'm running Calkulin's 2.8 if that matters.
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Is there a way to block OTAs? I'm running Calkulin's 2.8 if that matters.
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There is a thread on blocking them in the wiki, provided here for your ease.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388778
If you are worried about the OTA messing something up, it'll download and ask to install, but if you've made any changes to your ROM, including installing CWM, then it will fail the integrity check and won't install, so nothing will change.
I don't understand the OP's dilemma. Just wait a couple of hours after the OTA update and get a rooted version of the update... no problem!
It won't be out for a few more months anyways. It isn't even being tested yet. I doubt an initial build is even at Samsung. They are working on the the Galaxy S2 right now(the GSM overseas version). And, I am sure Sprint will sell some other phone with ICS stock before they update ours.
Jumping the gun a little, but I want to prepare my data.
Would it be smarter to flash a Stock Gingerbread ROM before receiving the OTA for ICS when the time comes? I still get the stupid EL29 notification. I am not looking to get rid of it.... it just does nothing. But in the future after the OTA for ICS- I want to make sure I don't see this again.
I think its a good question on whether or not the OTA's include enough to jump previous OTA's with that answered ( was thinking something similar the other day) you will know if you need to be on EL29 or not anyways.
To recieve via OTA you should be on a rather stock rom with root being an okay change. But your going to lose root eitherway. Any changes and or coming from a non official rom can result in a disaster.
To go to a rooted ICS you should just ODIN the tar when it becomes available. Same way you would root an EL29 phone since EK02 is the last version that can be zerged. The official updates if not here the day of is usually only a day or two off from being available here in rooted tar form.
I've been casually reading through most of the ICS threads being posted as of late but I have found that none of them hardly touch on the connection between the UVLDE, custom GB, and custom ICS.
Lots of stuff are being said that UVLDE is going to be needed for official ICS, but does that imply that it will also be a stepping stone needed for custom ICS built roms? I don't plan on switching over to stock just to avoid the supposed bricking the ICS will bring without installing UVLDE first. I am seeing a lot of people fine with installing leaked ICS builds, so I don't see why UVLDE would matter. When ICS source finally drops and we get some good builds going, can we just go directly from custom GB to custom ICS?
The tl;dr version of it all is.. will I have to do this:
Custom GB -> stock GB (UVLDE) -> stock ICS -> Custom ICS.
Or can I just simply go:
Custom GB -> Custom ICS.
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I've been casually reading through most of the ICS threads being posted as of late but I have found that none of them hardly touch on the connection between the UVLDE, custom GB, and custom ICS.
Lots of stuff are being said that UVLDE is going to be needed for official ICS, but does that imply that it will also be a stepping stone needed for custom ICS built roms? I don't plan on switching over to stock just to avoid the supposed bricking the ICS will bring without installing UVLDE first. I am seeing a lot of people fine with installing leaked ICS builds, so I don't see why UVLDE would matter. When ICS source finally drops and we get some good builds going, can we just go directly from custom GB to custom ICS?
The tl;dr version of it all is.. will I have to do this:
Custom GB -> stock GB (UVLDE) -> stock ICS -> Custom ICS.
Or can I just simply go:
Custom GB -> Custom ICS.
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What I think its all TMobile drama. They needed 2 more weeks to finalize stuff so they throw something and bought more time
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You can choose to not listen and do whatever you want. If you have insurance then you have nothing to worry about.
Some peoples phones ended up being bricked eventually running TDJ 's ICS ROM or some of the leaks. I've seen more than one thread opened reporting this. I think they may have been deleted or closed eventually. I think some phones came with different rev of boards or chips and something with the drivers and ICS is causing the bricks. Don't quote me on this because i'm not 100% of what the issue is.
My phone started acting up after a while running on the ICS leaks. No matter which one I was on. So I went ahead and did the GB stock update and planning to stay till the official update.
Maybe the awesome DEV's can implement whatever the update is supposed to do in their ICS ROMs.
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The ota update that TMobile was going to roll out was bricking phones. If you use kies to update you will be fine. If you use a custom ROM, you well be fine. It was only for ota (over the air) update. Where you get a message saying an update us ready, download now. If you don't do that you could be running froyo and you will be fine.
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8Fishes said:
I've been casually reading through most of the ICS threads being posted as of late but I have found that none of them hardly touch on the connection between the UVLDE, custom GB, and custom ICS.
Lots of stuff are being said that UVLDE is going to be needed for official ICS, but does that imply that it will also be a stepping stone needed for custom ICS built roms? I don't plan on switching over to stock just to avoid the supposed bricking the ICS will bring without installing UVLDE first. I am seeing a lot of people fine with installing leaked ICS builds, so I don't see why UVLDE would matter. When ICS source finally drops and we get some good builds going, can we just go directly from custom GB to custom ICS?
The tl;dr version of it all is.. will I have to do this:
Custom GB -> stock GB (UVLDE) -> stock ICS -> Custom ICS.
Or can I just simply go:
Custom GB -> Custom ICS.
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The major thing is upgrade path.
As long as you're not using Kies or the OTA update to flash the official ICS update you can skip UVLDE since the Official ICS update includes the UVLDE components that prevent bricking. When you use Kies to flash pre-UVLDE systems with the official ICS ROM, everything is not replaced on the existing system and that is what causes the brick.
Custom ICS ROMs that are released post-Samsung-Carrier-Official ICS releases may include whatever component in UVLDE prevents bricking. Just be sure to read the documentation for those ROMs carefully so you know if it is a pre-release base or official release base.
So...
pre-UVLDE-ROM --->Kies/OTA --->Official ICS = Brick
any ROM --->ODIN/CWM --->Official ICS/Official ICS Based ROM = Fine
There may be extra brick possibilities with certain earlier builds of the T989. There's an app to test for that. Haven't read up on all that part of it yet. There's hundreds of pages of posts about this and I just found out about it yesterday.
I believe it's something like this - earlier T989s have a defective or problematic EMMC component and whatever patches were made to pre-release official Samsung ROMs caused those phones to brick or something when they were flashed. They patched whatever caused that in UVLDE and that fix is also present in the official release. They tested 20 handsets - 16 with UVLDE and 4 without (numbers may be off). All the handsets without UVLDE bricked on update to the official pre-release ICS.
I don't thinkthe kies update will require it. It does a full "emergency" restore/install of the new software. It will come with the drivers that were causing the issue. I believe the problem was only with the ota update.
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Beefvvl said:
You can choose to not listen and do whatever you want. If you have insurance then you have nothing to worry about.
Some peoples phones ended up being bricked eventually running TDJ 's ICS ROM or some of the leaks. I've seen more than one thread opened reporting this. I think they may have been deleted or closed eventually. I think some phones came with different rev of boards or chips and something with the drivers and ICS is causing the bricks. Don't quote me on this because i'm not 100% of what the issue is.
My phone started acting up after a while running on the ICS leaks. No matter which one I was on. So I went ahead and did the GB stock update and planning to stay till the official update.
Maybe the awesome DEV's can implement whatever the update is supposed to do in their ICS ROMs.
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nobodys phone bricked just from running tdj' s ics it was the touch recovery that was doing it.
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Micronads said:
I don't thinkthe kies update will require it. It does a full "emergency" restore/install of the new software. It will come with the drivers that were causing the issue. I believe the problem was only with the ota update.
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Okay I heard that it was both of those from those who first alerted me to the issue.
So has anyone actually received the ICS update over the air or is everyone just getting it from here? Just asking because me & a couple of my friends have been checking like on the hour for the past few days and haven't gotten the update. They have returned their phones to stock and my wife's E4GT has been stock since day one. She doesn't trust rooting anymore after all the problems we had with the original Epic.
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I didnt bother trying. But friend of mine with the same phone got it on launch day by the time i got the chance to even tell him there was going to be an OTA he laughed and sent me the screen shot of the update message.
I reverted to FF18 to update PRL and Profile and pull a couple APK's now that we know the leak was the OTA and it was back to CM9 for me.
Mind you if your looking to be rooted, the only root method is to flash the FF18 tar (one click of course available) which is going to overwrite the firmware data with the same firmware data so unless you want to test unrooted there isn't much point in wasting time with the OTA. Also keep in mind it has not been found in the available kernel code that FF18 is safe to factory reset, etc on. Might be in compiled binaries like the eMMC driver but not worth the risk. Grab TWRP or Agat's kernel or something if your going custom. A rooted cwm zip is now available in addition to the stock ota update.zip thats on googles servers.
Had 4.1.1 rooted with CWM. Phone downloaded a 600MB update file. Got some sort of error part way through. Flashed stock recovery back. Let phone download OTA update. Stopped half way through the flash and aborted. No error, rebooted before I could see one - just said that it was interrupted or something after rebooting. Go to check for updates and it says the phone is up to date, however about shows 4.1.1! Kernel though is showing SMP Preempt Nov 20 date so that's go to be something new.
I noticed on Kies it says 4.1.1 is the latest version! I know 4.3 had a lot of bugs initially. Is AT&T still chickening out on this for now and all the msgs I see about 4.3 OTA update are before AT&T stopped it? Or somet issue with my phone.
I'm about to just do back to CWM, move to CM11 nightly and roll the dice on having to deal with bugs and other funky stuff. But then stability is my #1 priority so maybe just stay on 4.1.1. Can't be right as I thought there was a 4.1.2 even?? (I had the update app frozen via TI so I never bothered with the OTA updates.)
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Dead, yet ?
There's a flashable zip of the official 4.3 update in the development thread. I would recommend the no knox prerooted version though because the other version is apparently "unrootable" right now.
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Had 4.1.1 rooted with CWM. Phone downloaded a 600MB update file. Got some sort of error part way through. Flashed stock recovery back. Let phone download OTA update. Stopped half way through the flash and aborted. No error, rebooted before I could see one - just said that it was interrupted or something after rebooting. Go to check for updates and it says the phone is up to date, however about shows 4.1.1! Kernel though is showing SMP Preempt Nov 20 date so that's go to be something new.
I noticed on Kies it says 4.1.1 is the latest version! I know 4.3 had a lot of bugs initially. Is AT&T still chickening out on this for now and all the msgs I see about 4.3 OTA update are before AT&T stopped it? Or somet issue with my phone.
I'm about to just do back to CWM, move to CM11 nightly and roll the dice on having to deal with bugs and other funky stuff. But then stability is my #1 priority so maybe just stay on 4.1.1. Can't be right as I thought there was a 4.1.2 even?? (I had the update app frozen via TI so I never bothered with the OTA updates.)
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There's a flashable zip of the official 4.3 update in the development thread. I would recommend the no knox prerooted version though because the other version is apparently "unrootable" right now.
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Jazee, I read your posts on why you chose to try 4.3. I did what jukiewalsh recommends & have 4.3 as a stable DD.
This only works if your bootloader remains on 4.1.2 or less!
Posted some detail in these 2 posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48303313#post48303313 #264
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48550720#post48550720 #875
jukiewalsh said:
There's a flashable zip of the official 4.3 update in the development thread. I would recommend the no knox prerooted version though because the other version is apparently "unrootable" right now.
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I took a quick look and qasn't sure what thread you are referring to?
I'm guessing this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498233
But aside from having a pre-root pre-no knox version how does this one compare to this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387423
Are both of these buggy and that's why AT&T stopped pushing out the update?
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I took a quick look and qasn't sure what thread you are referring to?
I'm guessing this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498233
But aside from having a pre-root pre-no knox version how does this one compare to this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387423
Are both of these buggy and that's why AT&T stopped pushing out the update?
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I'm pretty sure that is the difference, that it's pre-rooted and insecure. As the second one's title says it's a "one way road". If you have any plans on rooting or installing a custom rom in the future I wouldn't do the second one because currently I think it's hard to root. The other one is essentially like flashing a custom rom so you can still switch between other ones or flash a kernel if you ever decide to. And I haven't tried the 4.3 TW yet so I can't attest to the bugginess